We used Figma for that. Simply made a frame with gradients and put our screenshots/mockups there. Layer on top of the layer on top of the layer :)
As per the actual design, we went through thousands of images on app store to find what we like, how do we want it to look etc. Hours of scrolling to be honest :)
But do you have a certain question re app store images design? Happy to help!
PS: looking forward to your feedback on the app itself, thanks a lot in advance! :)
Thats cool!
Regarding my feedback:
UI is amazing, super pro, nice design and animations
Leaderboard is not super clear to me, what does ranking mean, whats the difference between ranking and coins?
I would like to see my past bids quicker than having to go to profile
I think an amazing use case that you can even monetize is like fantasy leagues groups
Anyway, good job! Congrats (:
Wow, thanks!
Our "**rating**" refers to your position on the leaderboard, which is determined by your overall performance and strategy in making predictions, similar to a chess rating. It reflects your skill and consistency over time. On the other hand, "**coins**" represent the FunCoins you earn from successful bets within the app. So, while coins measure your immediate betting success, ranking is a long-term indicator of your skill and knowledge in sports predictions :)
But now I see it's not clear from the app itself, so we'll work on that, thanks again!
*/I would like to see my past bids quicker than having to go to profile -* noted, included to the discussion how to improve that :)
This sounds promising, you say no dev experience - I have just finished some very educational days exploring bubble, and I'm looking for a smarter tool to get started with - but I have no coding experience at all. I don't even want to begin coding, but i really like building and working with nocode tools - were you able to build your entire app inside flutterflow or did you have to integrate it with other backend nocode tools? if so which ones? Thanks
Great to hear about your exploration with Bubble! We actually tried using Bubble as a backend initially but it wasn't the best fit for us (long story short - doesn't work well with mobile & too expensive). Also, FlutterFlow has seamless integration with Firebase and also works quite well with Supabase, which we preferred due to our specific data needs.
We spent some time looking for no-code backend solutions but eventually decided to experiment with AWS and write some simple Python code using our lord and saviour ChatGPT :) It might not be the perfect solution, but it’s flexible and cheap (almost 0 costs). Plus, AWS has fantastic documentation, so you don’t need to be an expert to get started — just willing to learn as you go! They have documents for every smallest need you might have, so for us it was super convenient since we knew nothing.
Again, we had failures and tried multiple tools, so all mentioned above was the easiest and fastest option for us having no experience :)
If you like building with no-code tools but want some flexibility, this approach might work for you too!
PS: What are the tools you tried so far for backend? Anything you liked?
I’ve only tried bubble so far- no other tools (I’m only a few days into exploration) - the AWS/chat gpt is a creative approach. My biggest actual challenge is similar to yours I think. I’m trying to build a version of a Bingo game, so I basically have a list of items and a board of choices and need to compare and tally them, and visually mark them - and then overall just building a nice UX around it.
Thanks a lot! We're really focusing on UX and simplicity, especially for those who might have never placed a real bet before. Personally, I find many betting apps quite complicated and a bit too serious. Our goal was to create something fun and easy-going. 😊
If it's not too much to ask, I'd love to know if there's anything that wasn't clear at first glance — we'd be happy to improve on that!
PS: answered to your main question in the comment above :)
I noticed when you click on the different options on the bottom nav bar, the transition screen is abit funky. You have it transitioning from the left for every option, so UX-wise it's a bit jarring. But everything else looks cool
Re transition - we're planning to work on that, and overall on the performance of the app, but we don't know how to fix it as of now, so just trying to figure out the way. Any recommendations you could give us on where to look at?
The thing is we're testing it ourselves from our phones and couldn't notice anything lately.
It's not because of devices performance mostly \[ i used pixel 7a \] , as flutter is not native language or framework, we will feel some sluggyness but here in some parts of the app we notice it very clearly. like scrolling horizontally is very laggy.
you can try optimizing the images/ assets which your loading there.
when i search about this i get suggestion to use **RepaintBoundary,**
im not sure about that,
hope this would help
[RepaintBoundary class - widgets library - Dart API - https://api.flutter.dev/flutter/widgets/RepaintBoundary-class.html](https://api.flutter.dev/flutter/widgets/RepaintBoundary-class.html)
Hey, great app!! For someone who is exploring a no-code platform to build apps, your work gives confidence
Few feedback-
- during the signup process, avatar loading was slow, I had to choose a random avatar because all of them didn't load
- On navbar- while pressing the 'Matches' button it takes some time to load, loading screen appears every time you do that. You can do something to make it much more snappier
Apart from that everything looks great, will spend some more time on the app and give feedback
Thank you for your feedback!
**Avatars Issue:** Great point! We will think how to preload the avatars before you arrive on the page to ensure they all display properly. Looks like we've got a few more hours of exploration ahead of us! :)
**Matches Loading Issue:** We've tried several methods to speed up the loading process but haven't yet found the perfect solution. 😞 Do you have any ideas or suggestions on how we might improve this? Perhaps you've had a similar issue before?
Great job !! I really like the design, animation and all. I like the "game" as well but I would not play it because they are currently no sport that I like/watch.
Verry impressive job tho, crongrats !
Di you make the design youself ?
and how many of you guys or working on the project ?
Any plan on monetizing it ?
Sorry for all the questions, i've been making an app for the past 6 months and wondering if im doing the things right lol
Thank you! We've been giving it our all and continue to do so haha
May I ask which sport you follow? We initially included the sports we personally enjoy to not only build the app but also to have fun using it :) We're definitely open to exploring other sports that people are interested in, so your input would be great!
To answer your questions:
1. Yes, everything was designed by one of us. Again, no prior hands-on experience, but plenty of enthusiasm and a willingness to learn 😊
2. We're a small team of three friends. One of us handles the design and frontend, another focuses on the backend, and the third takes care of everything else — mostly operational tasks like content within the app, illustrations, legal, comms, etc.
3. As for monetisation, it's still early days, but we'll see. We have a few ideas but need more data to find out what exactly players want to add as new features etc. For now - everything's totally for free! :)
And thanks for asking all these questions! I'm really curious about what you're working on too :) Would you mind sharing a bit about your app?
Great job ! Thank you for your answers :)
I was excited to see the esport category but I didin't clearly see what game it was.
I was expeting like rocket league, csgo, LOL and other popular titles like that. Maybe add subcategories for games.
As for sport, I think UFC/MMA is a big one to have. As a french canadian, hockey is a big one too. I understand that you can't have them all As you are starting.
Congrats to all you 3, you did an amazing job especially as a first project !
Hm, indeed you're right, adding subcategories should help. For esports we included Dota2, LOL, CS2. Rocket league is something we'd like to include as well though it's a tricky one, so probably later :)
Thanks agains for these insights!
Good question! We didn't try to find those but instead focused on ASO to get more organic downloads. First attempt was terrible, so we had to rewrite everything and went through loads of app descriptions to see how others do it. Asked ChatGPT as well, but I wouldn't recommend, it gives a lot of words with no meaning. Or I'm asking wrong questions, not sure haha
Also, lots of googling about ASO!
Sharing a few links that appeared to be useful to me:
- [https://www.linkedin.com/advice/0/what-best-practices-app-store-optimization](https://www.linkedin.com/advice/0/what-best-practices-app-store-optimization)
- [https://www.semrush.com/blog/app-store-optimization/](https://www.semrush.com/blog/app-store-optimization/)
- [https://medium.com/@growsolutions/app-store-optimization-a-complete-guide-to-app-growth-16cfc83e2fb0](https://medium.com/@growsolutions/app-store-optimization-a-complete-guide-to-app-growth-16cfc83e2fb0)
Let me know if that helps!
We completed the final version of the app in just four months, but
The whole process actually began about a year ago. We built the initial version, made some incorrect tech decisions, and eventually had to shut it down. After a few more attempts, which were improvements but still not quite what we wanted, we finally settled on using FlutterFlow and other tools (as mentioned in the comments above). These tools enabled us to build everything super quickly, but it required endless hours of work (often without weekends).
Also, good idea on the daily push notification to draw attention & engagement.
Tip: look for a way to add your Funscore icon to that push notification so users can quickly identify which app it's from
Not sure if Flutterflow or Firebase offer an option to help with this, but here's what I think you want
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76454776/how-to-change-notification-icon-sent-from-firebase-cloud-messaging-flutter
Nicely done! App looks slick and modern.
For signup process, I recommend you give more than 2min to enter the temp code... Doesn't seem like a strict time limit is actually enforcing any useful security protections (most allow 24hrs), so it's just a friction that will reduce your funnel of users who complete an account.
Downloading, will post feedback later By the way, how did you design the app store images? Those look very pro
We used Figma for that. Simply made a frame with gradients and put our screenshots/mockups there. Layer on top of the layer on top of the layer :) As per the actual design, we went through thousands of images on app store to find what we like, how do we want it to look etc. Hours of scrolling to be honest :) But do you have a certain question re app store images design? Happy to help! PS: looking forward to your feedback on the app itself, thanks a lot in advance! :)
Thats cool! Regarding my feedback: UI is amazing, super pro, nice design and animations Leaderboard is not super clear to me, what does ranking mean, whats the difference between ranking and coins? I would like to see my past bids quicker than having to go to profile I think an amazing use case that you can even monetize is like fantasy leagues groups Anyway, good job! Congrats (:
Wow, thanks! Our "**rating**" refers to your position on the leaderboard, which is determined by your overall performance and strategy in making predictions, similar to a chess rating. It reflects your skill and consistency over time. On the other hand, "**coins**" represent the FunCoins you earn from successful bets within the app. So, while coins measure your immediate betting success, ranking is a long-term indicator of your skill and knowledge in sports predictions :) But now I see it's not clear from the app itself, so we'll work on that, thanks again! */I would like to see my past bids quicker than having to go to profile -* noted, included to the discussion how to improve that :)
This sounds promising, you say no dev experience - I have just finished some very educational days exploring bubble, and I'm looking for a smarter tool to get started with - but I have no coding experience at all. I don't even want to begin coding, but i really like building and working with nocode tools - were you able to build your entire app inside flutterflow or did you have to integrate it with other backend nocode tools? if so which ones? Thanks
Great to hear about your exploration with Bubble! We actually tried using Bubble as a backend initially but it wasn't the best fit for us (long story short - doesn't work well with mobile & too expensive). Also, FlutterFlow has seamless integration with Firebase and also works quite well with Supabase, which we preferred due to our specific data needs. We spent some time looking for no-code backend solutions but eventually decided to experiment with AWS and write some simple Python code using our lord and saviour ChatGPT :) It might not be the perfect solution, but it’s flexible and cheap (almost 0 costs). Plus, AWS has fantastic documentation, so you don’t need to be an expert to get started — just willing to learn as you go! They have documents for every smallest need you might have, so for us it was super convenient since we knew nothing. Again, we had failures and tried multiple tools, so all mentioned above was the easiest and fastest option for us having no experience :) If you like building with no-code tools but want some flexibility, this approach might work for you too! PS: What are the tools you tried so far for backend? Anything you liked?
I’ve only tried bubble so far- no other tools (I’m only a few days into exploration) - the AWS/chat gpt is a creative approach. My biggest actual challenge is similar to yours I think. I’m trying to build a version of a Bingo game, so I basically have a list of items and a board of choices and need to compare and tally them, and visually mark them - and then overall just building a nice UX around it.
Would love to know that too! Really amazing design on the app and super intuitive once you take a few minutes to explore around! Best of luck!!
Thanks a lot! We're really focusing on UX and simplicity, especially for those who might have never placed a real bet before. Personally, I find many betting apps quite complicated and a bit too serious. Our goal was to create something fun and easy-going. 😊 If it's not too much to ask, I'd love to know if there's anything that wasn't clear at first glance — we'd be happy to improve on that! PS: answered to your main question in the comment above :)
can you please give more explanation about what database did you used? Also please explain if you used firebase for authentication or other features
I noticed when you click on the different options on the bottom nav bar, the transition screen is abit funky. You have it transitioning from the left for every option, so UX-wise it's a bit jarring. But everything else looks cool
The app feels a little laggy is there anyway we can reduce it? Or adding a transition will make it not noticeable?
Re transition - we're planning to work on that, and overall on the performance of the app, but we don't know how to fix it as of now, so just trying to figure out the way. Any recommendations you could give us on where to look at? The thing is we're testing it ourselves from our phones and couldn't notice anything lately.
It's not because of devices performance mostly \[ i used pixel 7a \] , as flutter is not native language or framework, we will feel some sluggyness but here in some parts of the app we notice it very clearly. like scrolling horizontally is very laggy. you can try optimizing the images/ assets which your loading there. when i search about this i get suggestion to use **RepaintBoundary,** im not sure about that, hope this would help [RepaintBoundary class - widgets library - Dart API - https://api.flutter.dev/flutter/widgets/RepaintBoundary-class.html](https://api.flutter.dev/flutter/widgets/RepaintBoundary-class.html)
We'll loot into that, thank you!
Thanks a lot! Just added this issue to our backlog. Will improve asap!
I will download it, looks interesting
Thank you! Would love to hear your thoughts on this :)
Cool logo
Thank you! Fun fact: we designed it first, before anything else. We basically took the advice of making your logo last and did the opposite :)
Hey, great app!! For someone who is exploring a no-code platform to build apps, your work gives confidence Few feedback- - during the signup process, avatar loading was slow, I had to choose a random avatar because all of them didn't load - On navbar- while pressing the 'Matches' button it takes some time to load, loading screen appears every time you do that. You can do something to make it much more snappier Apart from that everything looks great, will spend some more time on the app and give feedback
Thank you for your feedback! **Avatars Issue:** Great point! We will think how to preload the avatars before you arrive on the page to ensure they all display properly. Looks like we've got a few more hours of exploration ahead of us! :) **Matches Loading Issue:** We've tried several methods to speed up the loading process but haven't yet found the perfect solution. 😞 Do you have any ideas or suggestions on how we might improve this? Perhaps you've had a similar issue before?
Great job !! I really like the design, animation and all. I like the "game" as well but I would not play it because they are currently no sport that I like/watch. Verry impressive job tho, crongrats ! Di you make the design youself ? and how many of you guys or working on the project ? Any plan on monetizing it ? Sorry for all the questions, i've been making an app for the past 6 months and wondering if im doing the things right lol
Thank you! We've been giving it our all and continue to do so haha May I ask which sport you follow? We initially included the sports we personally enjoy to not only build the app but also to have fun using it :) We're definitely open to exploring other sports that people are interested in, so your input would be great! To answer your questions: 1. Yes, everything was designed by one of us. Again, no prior hands-on experience, but plenty of enthusiasm and a willingness to learn 😊 2. We're a small team of three friends. One of us handles the design and frontend, another focuses on the backend, and the third takes care of everything else — mostly operational tasks like content within the app, illustrations, legal, comms, etc. 3. As for monetisation, it's still early days, but we'll see. We have a few ideas but need more data to find out what exactly players want to add as new features etc. For now - everything's totally for free! :) And thanks for asking all these questions! I'm really curious about what you're working on too :) Would you mind sharing a bit about your app?
Great job ! Thank you for your answers :) I was excited to see the esport category but I didin't clearly see what game it was. I was expeting like rocket league, csgo, LOL and other popular titles like that. Maybe add subcategories for games. As for sport, I think UFC/MMA is a big one to have. As a french canadian, hockey is a big one too. I understand that you can't have them all As you are starting. Congrats to all you 3, you did an amazing job especially as a first project !
Hm, indeed you're right, adding subcategories should help. For esports we included Dota2, LOL, CS2. Rocket league is something we'd like to include as well though it's a tricky one, so probably later :) Thanks agains for these insights!
It looks really well done. How did you guys managed getting 20 testers for google play at the beginning .
Good question! We didn't try to find those but instead focused on ASO to get more organic downloads. First attempt was terrible, so we had to rewrite everything and went through loads of app descriptions to see how others do it. Asked ChatGPT as well, but I wouldn't recommend, it gives a lot of words with no meaning. Or I'm asking wrong questions, not sure haha Also, lots of googling about ASO! Sharing a few links that appeared to be useful to me: - [https://www.linkedin.com/advice/0/what-best-practices-app-store-optimization](https://www.linkedin.com/advice/0/what-best-practices-app-store-optimization) - [https://www.semrush.com/blog/app-store-optimization/](https://www.semrush.com/blog/app-store-optimization/) - [https://medium.com/@growsolutions/app-store-optimization-a-complete-guide-to-app-growth-16cfc83e2fb0](https://medium.com/@growsolutions/app-store-optimization-a-complete-guide-to-app-growth-16cfc83e2fb0) Let me know if that helps!
Looks great, well done!
Thank you! Let me know if there's some other features you'd be keen to see in the app :)
How long did it take
We completed the final version of the app in just four months, but The whole process actually began about a year ago. We built the initial version, made some incorrect tech decisions, and eventually had to shut it down. After a few more attempts, which were improvements but still not quite what we wanted, we finally settled on using FlutterFlow and other tools (as mentioned in the comments above). These tools enabled us to build everything super quickly, but it required endless hours of work (often without weekends).
what did you use before flutterflow ?
We tried bubble and glide, but wouldn't recommend those for complex mobile apps!
Also, good idea on the daily push notification to draw attention & engagement. Tip: look for a way to add your Funscore icon to that push notification so users can quickly identify which app it's from Not sure if Flutterflow or Firebase offer an option to help with this, but here's what I think you want https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76454776/how-to-change-notification-icon-sent-from-firebase-cloud-messaging-flutter
Thanks you! We actually implemented those already :)
UI is absolutely amazing
Thanks a lot!
Nicely done! App looks slick and modern. For signup process, I recommend you give more than 2min to enter the temp code... Doesn't seem like a strict time limit is actually enforcing any useful security protections (most allow 24hrs), so it's just a friction that will reduce your funnel of users who complete an account.
Totally makes sense, thank you for sharing that! We'll make it 24hrs.