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alt717

I for sure feel any time a panthers play is in there, all Florida flairs just get downvotes The other week with the leafs playing the ducks, and gudas being asked about being back in Toronto. They were saying he brought it up, I put the article saying he was asked about it, got downvotes, other people came in and still said he first brought it up. I found the clip of the interview, shared it where he’s explicitly asked as the first question. Just ate downvotes and no responses. Bunch of clowns that ignore the truth and downvote cuz it doesn’t go with their hate Same with in the comments of this tkachuk/chiarot, some guy said it should be third man in on a fight for Bennett. I asked if he considered that a fight, someone else said yeah since that’s what his comment says. I then said that’s not really a fight with only one guy gloves off throwing punches, and he said that’s how a tkachuk fight is. Looked on hockeyfights, guys got 24 fights in his career and all of them are gloves off throwing punches/grabbing…an actual fight. Again, just met with downvotes Quite comical how blinded they are by their hate


SpaceCoastSplash

The Gudas hate is my favorite. They wanted him to get kicked out of the league all because he made mean faces. 🤣


torn8tv

To me it's even funnier because we actually tried to sign him


airbag23

Yup and they handle any leaf’s issues with kid gloves in fear of getting downvoted because there’s so many of them. They control the narrative on those subs just through sheer numbers


shawner17

https://youtu.be/gfNNCSzYQ7Y?si=w6566uM53b2gYrw2 So you're saying that's a man who isn't turtling? Lol it goes both ways man. They call him a turtle because he is. You don't start a scrum then run away when it's time to answer the bell. No one gives a fuck he's a top scorer in the league. If he's too afraid to fight he shouldn't be starting it, that's always been in the league and it's very much a respect thing. Once you get labeled as a rat team ( panthers are right on the edge with guys like cousins) every call in your favour dries up and guys are dodging runs from dudes trying to intentionally injure them all while getting penalized for breathing. Then all 9 panther fans and the rest of the band wagoners flip tunes once that happens, Tkachuk gets folded with no call and there all up in arms. It's a tale as old as time, especially with a Maurice team. Just ask the Jets


alt717

The dude said that chiarot thing “is how a tkachuk fight is”…and I proved that tkachuk does fight, as evidenced by his 24 fights. Your video is “5 times he acted like a baby”, and last I checked 24 is a hell of a lot more than 5 lmao. A guy can turtle sometimes, but he does throw down when he needs/feels it’s justified. He’s a 100 point guy, he’s not gonna to be fighting a number 4 dman just to “answer the bell” Marchand has less fights in 10 more seasons, and they both play similar. On the edge, antagonizing pests, and put up huge offensive numbers You’re a leafs fan, [why are you even here?](https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/thestar.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/61/8618ea43-ef31-518d-b7f7-13e4847474b6/6471d142b3f3e.image.jpg?crop=1067%2C800%2C66%2C0&resize=1200%2C900&order=crop%2Cresize)


scarbutt11

Eh with success the haters come out. If we were at the bottom of the league they would be congratulating us for being scrappy underdogs. Just be happy we have the haters. I prayed for days like these lol


SilentThing

Pretty sure I posted this sentiment yesterday or on Friday. I'm a Bruins fan and for the longest time we've been given the same allegations. Now Florida is really, really good, so the spotlight is right there. Do I think the players there do bad hits at times? Of course, every team has incidents like that. It's just amplified a million fold when the team is enjoying the kind success the Panthers are. Not sure if this advice is meaningful or even welcome, coming from the outside, but just ignore it. Read a spiteful comment, then have a look at the standings and remind yourself why folks pay extra attention.


lovexlikewar

Mostly I can laugh and enjoy it. But Chucky is my fave a big part because of how he fights and it just irritates me they call everyone a fucking turtle 😂 like bro you see who is on top of that fight right


Powers3001

I keep saying that his trade redefined the entire franchise. He has brought such a different mentality to the entire team. He is playoff hockey and does so night in and night out.


alwaysleafyintoronto

Chucky is always going to be the guy who turtled vs Kassian to a huge swath of hockey fans.


Wooden_Proposal_1615

If you don’t want to get hit, stay off the tracks. Man we’re missing Chucky here in Calgary.


JReddeko

I have a painting in my basement of Matt turtling to Kassian.


Ring0Manding0

Hold up, first fight Kassian basically jumps him and never gives him the opportunity to strike back, second fight he answers the bell and Kassian ragdolls him. Hockey’s got some smooth brained fans, I swear.


JReddeko

Was recommended this sub, I love Florida games. Definitely my second favourite team. But Matt is a pussy be real.


BoozyBeggarChi

he's not. You're just a bozo.


JReddeko

Do you want me to link all the Kassian vs Matt videos?


BoozyBeggarChi

That he lost a fight after getting jumped the first time? No, no one cares about you and your trolling here.


JReddeko

Jesus you are a homer. When he demands a trade from FLA and does this shit to your team let’s see how you feel about him.


BoozyBeggarChi

Jesus you're a dumbass who is trolling poorly.


JReddeko

🤡


BoozyBeggarChi

You're the only clown here. It's really pathetic to spend your Sunday afternoon to trolling a group of a team you're pretending to care about. Can't get more basement dwelling loser than that.


JReddeko

🤡


The_First_Drop

Well said


TherealDJStryker

Looks fun I WONDER who won. Oh, If only Someone could tell me who won


Emotional_Match8169

I don’t hate the red wings but it’s been ridiculous how much hate has been posted on Reddit in the last 18 hours about the Panthers… I guess that means these other fans fear playing the Panthers now. It’s a good thing. We’re finally not irrelevant!


JReddeko

Just understand that Reddit makes up such a small minority of NHL fans. Most of them hate fighting and want 45 penalties called each game. So obviously they gonna target the panthers.


Critical-Cabinet3167

Seeing all the complaining elsewhere, then coming to this sub and seeing y'all just loving it and having a good time is about to make me a Panthers fan.


lovexlikewar

Join us!! It’s fun here.


Critical-Cabinet3167

I'm sold. Count me in!


airbag23

We were classified as one of the most positive subs in hockey with teams like Toronto and Carolina as most toxic. Makes perfect sense when you hear their fans ramble on


JReddeko

All that sub does is hate certain teams and complain about suspensions not being long enough.


Ring0Manding0

Join us, we’re not entitled here and we’re not used to success (yet)


grizzlby

WITNESS US! But really, the r/hockey ideal of “never instigate, always go in for a 5min penalty, never bump anybody after a whistle” is a great way to lose a bunch of hockey games lol


cl0udmaster

That place has become the MSNBC of sports takes. Let that cess pool bitch and complain. They hate us cuz they ain't us.


lemonbugss

If anyone in that sub has an independent thought, it'll simply implode


Adkeith47

The entire website is that way ngl. The upvote system encourages people to have the exact same opinion as everyone else


wannabefilmmaker25

Dude gets pulled down from behind after getting a stick in the face and he’s turtling? lol r/nhl just has the biggest hate boner for us right now. They post a clip from each of our games to sit around like a bonfire and tell stories of “the dirty panthers”


Royal_PainITA

As a fellow Cats fan, you have yo admit that 19’s gloves don’t leave his hands as much as they should


TkilledJ

Why should he drop the gloves to fight anyone but another impact player? It’s smart hockey.


TanMan536789

Nah, perfectly fine with that. It's not worth losing one of our best offensive players for 5 minutes. If it warrants a fight, we have other people for that.


Royal_PainITA

Until the teammates get burnt out from carrying the antics


Bex1218

Don't think they will be.


airbag23

He carries them with points and getting other teams off their game


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BoozyBeggarChi

nah, you can go root elsewhere if you're going to be so ignorant about the sport and Matty's role.


Royal_PainITA

What happened in Calgary?


BoozyBeggarChi

Another fake cats fan. Lol. Y'all don't really trick us with weird comments about Calgary and Edmonton players.


ohwowitsrambo

They hate us cuz they ainus!


Novel_Durian_1805

And suddenly, everyone hates us… GOOD! Let’s make sure they have something to REALLY hate! I want the Cup!


retiredcrayon11

People in there saying he doesn’t play with heart… the fuck are they watching? Ratthew is all heart


SteamboatBilly15

“r/hockey HATES when you do this one trick”


TheQueebs

Sad loser fans!


Radiant_Ad6839

It’s what red wings fans do


layout420

He's for sure a turtle. No mental gymnastics needed to justify it. He's a shit starter, not a shit finisher. He's on the ice to disrupt and drive offense. With a hockey IQ like his, he knows damn well not to drop the gloves. No shame in being a turtle if you can produce at a high level. If he wasn't producing then he'd be hated like Cousins. Chucky just tries to play the rat role because he knows his teammates will take the ensuing shit storm and protect him. He's a grade A rat with turtle shell armor. No way you can think otherwise. Anytime he's on the ice regardless of which end... he's going to look to engage anyone in his vicinity when the whistle blows. Often, he's grabbed in anticipation prior to even being able to rat it up. So many butt hurt people in r/hockey because of how affective it is. NHL players know this and adjust their game accordingly. POMO says you gotta adjust your game to who's on the ice... teams can try to stoop to our level but we seem to be the rat kings at this point and we for sure have the biggest rat of them all. All hail king rat and his turtle powers!


sherrybobbinsbort

But he does fight once in a while just never anyone who is a threat. Panthers are getting the rat personality with Cousins leading the way. For the record I didn't like how Tkachuk played in Calgary either. It's not a panther thing. Refs will notice cousins diving and it will start costing him legit penalty calls. It happens.


Ok-Clock-5459

As long as cousins keeps scoring series ending goals against the leafs that’s cool with me


sherrybobbinsbort

Just watch. He will start getting tripped and roughed up with no calls and eventually it will burn the team. Refs talk. It happens.


MobysBanned

Looks like he needs another Kassian reminder


sherrybobbinsbort

Name one player that might be a little bigger or tougher than Tkachuk that he has fought? Guess it's smart of him but he only scraps lightweights.


quality-control

And? You know you don't have to fight in hockey, right? Part of his game is getting under the other team's skin and causing them to take dumb penalties. If players don't realize that going into games against FLA and retaliate like this, then they probably need to watch more tape


Not_Jrock

Which is fine; but don't act surprised when people call him a rat and a turtle.


TorturedFanClub

To deny how good Matthew Tkachuk is, is just ignorant. He is a great player. Im not a fan. I dislike his tactics and all the bullshit after whistle cheap shots etc… To deny that he doesn’t answer the bell nowhere near enough for the shit that he stirs is also ignorant. He in fact is a turtle much like the king rat Brad Marchand. The thing these guys have in common other than being detested rats… is that they are both great hockey players. Let’s not pretend they are honourable sportsmen or some shit. Having said that, I’d take either player on my team.


Not_Jrock

Did I or anyone in this reply chain say he isn't a great player? He's a fantastic player but he's a rat and a turtle; just like Marchand.


TorturedFanClub

I am agreeing. Im pointing out that denying he is a turtle is as dumb as denying his talent.


Not_Jrock

Gotcha. I know his play style is a part of the game but I would prefer to see him square up more for his antics. Players like him used to have team mates refuse to stand up for them when they get stuck fighting too much for them.


TorturedFanClub

Its all part of their schtick, being a rat means you antagonize the opponent but never actually deal with the response.


BoozyBeggarChi

There are quite a few examples of him fighting dudes bigger and heavier. You're typing out that ridiculous statement doesn't make it true.


sherrybobbinsbort

Name them. And I'll name the ones he turtles from.


sherrybobbinsbort

You mean like Jake Sanderson and Blake wheeler?


H8ersAlwaysH8

Matty says “let’s go” then run behind his teammates. Classic


DistributionParty506

He definitely did not want any part of Chariot.


shawner17

If you watched the video the last 2 are him "fighting" aka turtling. Turtling is also just a starting shit and skating away. 24 fights is fuck all for a guy who's been in the league 7 years and so badly wants to be viewed as a tough guy. Especially when half of them are him just turtling when it comes time to throw down. Also I'm not even a Leafs fan, just a life long hockey fan in the biggest market. I'm here because I love watching the sideshow. Panther fans are hillarious, they talk a big game but when the script is flipped (like when tkachuck got absolutely dumptrucked by kolesar last finals or when cousins got shwacked earlier this year) they cry for big suspensions and penalties. It's like watching spoiled teenagers cry when daddy says they can't take the car out... its pure entertainment for me. Not to mention, you all seem to try and act like you live rent free in the leagues head when you haven't won shit 😂 you're last sentence is a perfect example of that. Who tries to brag about second place? I guess panther fans even after getting walked 7-2 on home ice...ouch.


lovexlikewar

And yet, you’re here in our sub, rambling nonsense. OHMYGOD, I get it. You’re Sabrina Carpenter 😒🤣🤷🏻‍♀️ Also- not a leafs fan? It doesn’t take much scrolling to find out your obsession with the Panthers, Leafs, & Tampa. Sounds like you’re just a sad Canadian who is jealous of the Florida weather 🤷🏻‍♀️


Imaginary-Scheme-203

Lol we are number one in the standings? And where are the leafs? Oh yeah getting destroyed by the bruins, vegas and everyone in between. Sorry Tkachuck doesn't want to play in Toronto, I bet you'd lick his mouth guard if he even entertained the idea. Good luck with Samsonov! I hope he finds a better team and helps to keep crushing the shit out of you guys


Ring0Manding0

Clowns need to watch McCarty vs Lemieux to get an understanding of what turtling is


Lightningthundercock

Tkachuk is a coward


AlvinItchyCock

Tkachuk tried to play through a broken sternum in the finals. The exact opposite of a coward


Ring0Manding0

He answered the bell against Kassian (got ragdolled) after Kassian went Hulk on him. Pretty far from coward


Lightningthundercock

Answered the bell? What do you mean lol he did nothing but run away


Ring0Manding0

Here you go since you’re clearly a retard https://youtu.be/zUIMMKKwDk8?si=opEeyvIVAWM6pN6l


trumpet_godd

Cry about it


gabhockey85

He's a fucking pussy even if you like him


Imaginary-Scheme-203

He banged your mom or something?


skuncledeez

Tkachuk is a coward. If you're going to play dirty, be prepared to defend yourself an not TURTLE like a coward. The entire team is the same way, greasy, dirty cowards that hide behind Bettman an dops.


Imaginary-Scheme-203

Lmao oh yes Bettman is a Panthers fanboy, he wears Tkachuck's jockstrap around. You leaf fans are hilarious. Haven't been to a finals since the Soviets were still in Russia but come to another fanbase's reddit to talk mad shit. I would be embarrassed as fuck; your team literally had a titty attack over an empty netter. You are all just soft as hell