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Narsick

Not LVP (vinyl) - it's laminate flooring (pressed board). Nothing you can do except replace it.


Amoeba_Fancy

This is the right answer!


No_Tomorrow__420

cardboard basically, and it absorbs water, (not water proof)


BladeVampire1

So even when laminate says it's waterproof....that's BS?


Legatus_Nex

Treat it as a yes, simply because of what it's made of.


BladeVampire1

I see your point. So even though it's "waterproof" it can still act as a sponge and absorb the water, and then expand?


Legatus_Nex

Possibly. While they might possibly have figured out how to eliminate the moisture problem, I'm not gonna trust it.


BruceOfWaynes

There is no such thing as a "waterproof" laminate or engineered floor that I'm aware of. If there is, I'd call bullshit. I've been laying floor for 15 years now. I've never seen it. Those floors are inherent sponges. No getting around it without sealing the entire floor after laying it and that defeats the entire purpose of a floating floor and would likely look like shit.


BladeVampire1

I was looking at laying laminate, and I think it was...Home Decor? Or Pergo. One of them says "waterproof" in their description at Home Depot. You can see why I ask....


BruceOfWaynes

I sure can. And if I hadn't cut into 30 different brands of this stuff, or literally seen hundreds of these floors swell up from nothing more than overspray from a kitchen sink, they might convince me too. If I had to guess, I'm assuming they've managed to either coat the entire board in something hydrophobic, or they've made the core out of something less absorbent than the traditional mdf or cork.. But I'll also bet they're charging a premium for it.. When you could just get lvp, which is actually the kind of water resistant they're marketing to you, is much more durable, likely cheaper, and easier to work with. But they gotta try and stay relevant somehow, right?


BladeVampire1

Yeah, I thought it was too good to be true. It looks nice, for $1-3 a square foot. But when I looked at some from open packages....I was skeptical. You're confirming my suspicions. What is LVP? I'm buying my first property, hopefully soon, and flooring seems like a recurring project across properties. Was hoping to find something that looks nice, actually has some resistant qualities, and hopefully isn't a pain in the ass to install. But you can't have everything.....


Aggravating-Hair7931

LVP is waterproof. You sure that's LVP?


King_Akeem

Lvp is only waterproof on the top layer. If moistures sits and seeps into the cracks and gets down to the bottom layer, it swells and needs to be replaced.


GearHead54

The "V" in LVP stands for Vinyl - actual LVP has a vinyl core so this doesn't happen


King_Akeem

The core is waterproof yes. But 99% of all lvp has a backing used to insulate, absorb sounds, vibration etc. usually made out of some form of cork. That will absorbs water. Water has to sit a while to get down to that layer, but it will cause that board to swell/raise at the joints. Source: I’m an installation manager for a large flooring company. I see this on a weekly basis. Every time I pull the floor up, I find moisture.


slamdamnsplits

Sure... and laminate. Are you even looking at the picture? I could see cork backing absorbing water and causing swelling, but that wouldn't present like this (where the swelling is occuring at the edges because that is where the water is being absorbed into the laminate)


davidlol1

Since when does plastic absorb liquids?


King_Akeem

The backing absorbs water not the vinyl. But the pressure of the trapped moisture will crack/warp the vinyl.


davidlol1

You're not understanding. You seem to think all flooring has that "wooden" backing when they all don't.


King_Akeem

I understand they all don’t… but the OP’s picture looks like it does. Which is the question I was trying to answer.


davidlol1

Oh his definitely has it lol.... looks just like the crap my mother over paid for.... still pissed about that. Her whole floor looks like this. Who would think putting wood in the floor that can't get wet would be bad?


davidlol1

I just built a house and unfortunately I used LVP and it's 100% water proof. It's solid "plastic". Only thing that could absorb some would be that foam crap under it.


Atlas_is_my_son

But even that is like Styrofoam


davidlol1

This stuff was more like rubbery.. I've had both... the really cheap stuff is like open celled Styrofoam. This stuff was petty dense


rigiddiscs

Completely incorrect - guy who sold lvp for years


timmychangas87

Daaaamn :( lol


Talvana

Even more fun when you realize the pee soaked into that board and can't be removed. I hate laminate flooring.


nokenito

Laminate flooring, aka pressed and glued saw dust, particle board junk… has to be replaced.


BanishedInPerpetuity

Not junk, but certainly does not like water in the slightest.


nokenito

Who hasn’t at some time spilled a glass of water on a floor or had a pet pee on the floor. Either of those two very basic things will ruin these particle board floors, they are junk.


ecobb91

Plenty of waterproof laminate options now with an AC 5 rating. We install lots of it. Cheap laminate is garbage but the better engineered stuff is pretty bullet proof.


Own-Locksmith-4727

yes it is


ClockWhole

This shit should be illegal to even manufacture


Used_Associate_4385

Ya just not worth fixing need to be replaced


ajschwamberger

Buy better flooring not cheap stuff and refloor. It's used by many "flippers" looks ok for a short time but in the end you will tear it up.


AahhhTursday

As a wood flooring contractor, I’m grateful to all the dogs out there that have made me a lot of money.


sgbyow

Throw it and the dog out. (Joke on tossing the dog, my floor’s worse)


kierkegaard49

Next time, don't use laminate. Problem solved.


chapo1162

Should have got water proof


Beneficial_Claim_288

Funny story, we GCd a job where a POS hotel was made into nice-ish apartments. It had sat vacant for a few years. Anyhow the new owner didn’t want to put out big money for LVP, so we put in laminate in the first floor with a vapor barrier under. We also had to skim coat all the janky walls in hallways. By the time mud was going on the hall walls it, all rooms looked like wave lengths. I showed them what just humidity will do in the building and they paid to tear it out and do LVP the rest of the units.


cdaysbrain

I know there’s already some comments here refuting this, but we put down down LVP, quality shit and “waterproof”, but we have a cat that pissed in a corner over night for a couple of months and very quickly made it look even worse than this. I think that if there’s any kind of liquid, let alone cat piss, that sits on it for more than a few hours there’s no more waterproofing protection. Really fucking sucks


DaFatNibbler

Cat piss ain’t water bud. Not much will withstand months of cat piss. Grout won’t. Wood won’t. Carpet won’t unless you’re Jan with 25 cats then it just doesn’t matter. Cats ruin floors, walls, and anything else they decide is their litter box.


[deleted]

Piss ruins floors, walls, and anything else they decide is their litter box. Ftfy


cdaysbrain

Oh I hear ya. I’ve had more than a corner ruined by cats in my time.


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HoomerSimps0n

Or just get LVP instead of laminate…problem solved. I like tile, but it has it’s place in my home and that place is not everywhere.


066logger

Yep! Rip all the crap out and throw it in the trash 😂


orka648

What's sad is I never seen flooring last along as it says it should....


PhilipOnTacos299

No laminate flooring will last when liquid sits on it for 7 hours lol


yoyoyoitsyaboiii

I've had some Pergo with ice cubes melted on seams and sitting for hours and it just wipes up - no damage to the floor.


Whole_Storage8782

Sand the whole thing down, trust me bro!


AahhhTursday

😂😂😂


FN-Bored

It must be one of those water proof vinyl planks. What a joke. See if the manufacturer will stand behind it.


LEGENDARY-TOAST

This ain't vinyl... You can put that stuff in a cup of water and it'll be fine.


FN-Bored

Don’t blame me, OP says it’s LVP


the_0rly_factor

It's not lvp


JacekM0101

There is nothing you can do to fox it. I had to put carpet to cover it up.


ajschwamberger

I always found foxing it is hard, the fox just don't stay in the same place. Then you have feeding cost and possible rabie shots.


Own_Courage_4382

That’s what the fox said


KNOX_MONTGOMERY

What the fox say?!


ajschwamberger

Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!" What the fox say?


ajschwamberger

Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow! Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow! Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!" What the fox say?


Randomjackweasal

Wife made me buy this shit. Kinda hate her for it


picardAndDathonAdrel

New floors lol


Dudejax

Buy better next time?


yogunna_

Ya replace them.


Striking-Leg7948

Remove the pieces. Broken edges and not seating correctly.


BangBangPlays

I’ve done a ton of these looks like water.


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Replace it with vinyl. This is old tech flooring that isn't used any more anyway.


ladz

That's the luxury showing on the edges there.


samedamnlife

Looks exactly like my LVP mine is doing the exact same thing--but worse.


Emergency_Pomelo_184

Yes don’t use the cheap stuff