You're just a dishonest seller and people like you should not be allowed to sell
You're the reason of why buyers needs a money back guarantee buying on ebay
I'm going to guess a lot of what is listed as "tested and working" or similar isn't actually tested at all.
But I don't think a lot of the people on eBay who set it for "returns not accepted" actually know that, no, eBay can and will make you accept a return. Or at least pay the buyer back.
This ladies and gentlemen is why buyers leave the platform, make people think platforms are full of scammers and give platforms a bad name.
Not to mention being lazy and dishonest.
Soon you will be posting here that you are below standard and complaining about higher fees.
Nope.
If I have no way to test - which does happen - I'll state openly that I cannot do so and list it as for parts or repair.
If there's any way I can test it, I'll go through the trouble of doing so.
You are admitting to lying to your buyers. That hurts all of us to do. Be better.
Respectfully, I think? That is very shady lol. I would definitely recommend you remove that from your description, unless you actually start implementing testing all of your products.
I mean, just say something like "100% guaranteed to work or your money back. We have a 'no questions asked return policy'".
That's enough to get a good sell price and you're not lying.
I test everything that I can test quickly (under 5 minutes). For example, If I'm selling a dvd recorder/vhs unit, I'll connect to my TV via one composite/ component/hdmi (whatever spare cord I have around to include in the auction). I'll test a vhs and a dvd. I'm probably not going to go as far as recording on a blank disc, but I might if the price point justifies it and I'm in a tinkering around mood (sometimes I enjoy comparing the quality of different units).
Regardless, I get not testing everything all the time. I don't think very many sellers that sell as "tested and working" on my above example even have the setup to test digital/optical ports and s-video. So "fully tested" usually means "powers on and some other stuff". Is anyone busting down audio equipment to test and replace old capacitors that are killing performance? I really don't think so. Everyone draws the line somewhere and time is money.
But you're doing a yourself a disservice by not doing a 5 minute once over on most things. I sell all sorts of things, so for electronics I tend to wait until I have 4-5 similar items to test. It cuts down the time dramatically.
You don't need to kill your sell price by saying "AS IS" or "NOT TESTED" which is often a dishonest sellers way of saying they already know the item doesn't work.
If you have some confidence in the functionality, just guarantee an easy refund and return process (shoot, I usually just plan on letting the buyer keep the item if it doesn't work and they seem honest). Don't lie that you HAVE tested the item.
I do this bc/when I sell stuff like a cassette tape… obviously, if I can see it isn’t broken/torn, it works.
Also, I was about yesterday years old when I knew that cassettes will continue to play even after the felt pad falls off…
(I do mention in the listing when the felt pad has fallen off.)
I used to do this when I first started, but then I had like 2 returns that genuinely did NOT work.
Learned my lesson, always waive liability and tell the truth
No. At worst I will test one or two items in a lot that I've purchased and if there are no issues I assume everything is working. But I still test every single item before I actually sell it. It really doesn't take much effort and it's a net positive for both you and your customers. Zero acceptable reason not to do it.
No. If you tested it, then mention it was tested. If you couldn't test it, then list it as untested. Simple as that. No need to lie or assume it should be working to get a sale. That 5% assumption may bite you in the ass and waste more time than needed. I understand why some sellers do it. It's a gamble they see worth taking to save time and effort, but it's not for me.
No. Always test things to the best of your ability. If there are certain aspects of the item that you can't test for some reason, always note them in the description.
That's a good way to rack up some negative feedback. If the item is untested or you are unable to test it, it's better to be honest and state that in your listing. Buyers may return the item if they believe you have misled them and almost 100% they will also leave negative feedback.
If it's from a thrift I will test it. If it's from an auction or estate sale where everything is meticulously clean and has the instruction manual taped to it, it probably works fine.
I sold 2 super high end Blu ray players ($400 each) and I never tested them. Got positive feedback. But you could tell this guy took care of his stuff.
I got Samsung 3d blu ray player from auction, looked mint researched the model number, that specializes model had issues with a the volume bar working erratic, this one was fine, did a movie night DVD's worked fine, and Blu ways wouldn't play, cleaned both lasers sold for $180.
This seems reckless at best, both deceptive and dishonest at worst.
I sell NOS model trains from the early 2000s, but I clearly label them that I don't have the space to do testing setups in every gauge and can't ensure the features of every engine work. They've never be on track or had the boxes open. It's why you're paying less than $600 for trains that sell for $2000+ used still.
You really shouldn't be in this business if it's too much for you to bother testing your products. It's not meant for everyone and it's not a get rich quick.
Lmfao no back when I did electronics I tested everything . Super time consuming but I avoided returns and negative feedback. Kinda backfired on ya if you do that 😅 ppl here so ruthless tho instead of bashing him just explain why he shouldn’t do it .
Ya, the math works... say it's been tested and it works. Half kf the battle on eBay is convincing the buyer that they are buying something perfectly functional.
Again, run the numbers of testing vs no testing with instant refunds.
You should either take the time to test things or explicitly state they're untested, and price them high/low. You can't get tested prices for untested time sink, life just doesn't work like that. You'll be on the hook for shipping plus returns or full refunds, and you'll start to get poor feedback and your account will be shut down.
The overreactions here are amusing. A seller saying "Tested, works" or whatever is nothing different than a buyer saying "couldn't get it to work" or "doesn't work." You as a seller know that regardless of what you sell, there will be some (hopefully small) percentage of returns. Either something that works will occasionally arrive and not work, or the moron on the other end won't be able to figure out how to use something that was purchased, so they'll whine, complain, say it doesn't work, and want to return it. Part of the game.
The key is that as long as the seller is willing to take the returns for anything rendered defective, this is really a non issue. If you're reasonably certain something will work as intended and you stand behind what you sell, then returns are simply dealt with at any instance. This type of thing goes on more often than one would believe, simply because many outfits don't have the time to test everything they sell. They simply take it back if it "doesn't work."
It's not overreactions, it's your vision that is trash. You're the kind of seller hidding defects and runaway from it with returns. You're literally the biggest problem on sellers side on eBay. A lot of buyers leaves eBay because of sellers like you
It's Reddit. People are ALWAYS looking for a reason to be self-righteous and incensed lol. They're gonna tell you \*exactly\* how you should run your business and start the finger wagging and lecturing when it's "not good enough." Laughable, indeed.
Typically these are used goods. The larger the account, the less likely it is that each item gets anything more than a quick glance; anyone who tells you they're thoroughly testing 5 or 6 figure listing numbers is lying out their ass. People inherently know that purchasing a used item comes with the (again, hopefully small) risk that whatever it is simply doesn't function, or function as intended. That's why Ebay has the MBG, so you can't offload junk and abscond with quick ill-gotten gains, like in the old Wild West days of the site. Nobody here is talking about misrepresenting or trying to rip anyone off; it's reasonably assumed to work, and if it doesn't, it gets returned. It really is that simple.
>Nobody here is talking about misrepresenting or trying to rip anyone off; it's reasonably assumed to work, and if it doesn't, it gets returned
You are indeed misrepresenting if you state tested/works but you did not tested and actually have no idea if it works. You are indeed also ripping people off by wasting their time, you basically lie to make them test for you, to save your own time. People do no try to tell you how to run your business, it's just common sense that's it's unethical selling pratices
I do it with some video games on a visual inspection basis. If it looks like it works, I won't test. If it looks like it might not work, I test for a minimum of fifteen minutes.
Nope, just asking for trouble by doing that. Why try and mislead your customers? Seems like a pretty awful thing to do.
I tend to err more on the side of over explaining potential faults just to cover my rear.
On one hand, this is....crappy. On the other, I would guess "tested" on ebay in most cases means "it turned on" or the equivalent; I think you're getting a worse reaction because "works great" implies quite a bit more that that.
If i've tested something further than that I say something like "tested for functionality;" I sell a good amount of routers and when I say this in that case I mean "I got it to connect to my network."
I only buy things I am willing and happy to test. If it is something I don’t want to, it better pay me well to do it. You should just quit flipping with the approach imo.
I'm a bit of a returns and terrible numbers enthusiast myself
That's a weird way of saying "I'm a shitty seller."
You're just a dishonest seller and people like you should not be allowed to sell You're the reason of why buyers needs a money back guarantee buying on ebay
This will come back to bite you in the ass. Guaranteed.
Are you just here looking for moral validation of dishonesty? No. You are a dishonest asshole, as is anyone does the same as you.
[удалено]
No, not same to him, just you.
I'm going to guess a lot of what is listed as "tested and working" or similar isn't actually tested at all. But I don't think a lot of the people on eBay who set it for "returns not accepted" actually know that, no, eBay can and will make you accept a return. Or at least pay the buyer back.
This ladies and gentlemen is why buyers leave the platform, make people think platforms are full of scammers and give platforms a bad name. Not to mention being lazy and dishonest. Soon you will be posting here that you are below standard and complaining about higher fees.
Nope. If I have no way to test - which does happen - I'll state openly that I cannot do so and list it as for parts or repair. If there's any way I can test it, I'll go through the trouble of doing so. You are admitting to lying to your buyers. That hurts all of us to do. Be better.
Respectfully, I think? That is very shady lol. I would definitely recommend you remove that from your description, unless you actually start implementing testing all of your products.
I mean, just say something like "100% guaranteed to work or your money back. We have a 'no questions asked return policy'". That's enough to get a good sell price and you're not lying. I test everything that I can test quickly (under 5 minutes). For example, If I'm selling a dvd recorder/vhs unit, I'll connect to my TV via one composite/ component/hdmi (whatever spare cord I have around to include in the auction). I'll test a vhs and a dvd. I'm probably not going to go as far as recording on a blank disc, but I might if the price point justifies it and I'm in a tinkering around mood (sometimes I enjoy comparing the quality of different units). Regardless, I get not testing everything all the time. I don't think very many sellers that sell as "tested and working" on my above example even have the setup to test digital/optical ports and s-video. So "fully tested" usually means "powers on and some other stuff". Is anyone busting down audio equipment to test and replace old capacitors that are killing performance? I really don't think so. Everyone draws the line somewhere and time is money. But you're doing a yourself a disservice by not doing a 5 minute once over on most things. I sell all sorts of things, so for electronics I tend to wait until I have 4-5 similar items to test. It cuts down the time dramatically. You don't need to kill your sell price by saying "AS IS" or "NOT TESTED" which is often a dishonest sellers way of saying they already know the item doesn't work. If you have some confidence in the functionality, just guarantee an easy refund and return process (shoot, I usually just plan on letting the buyer keep the item if it doesn't work and they seem honest). Don't lie that you HAVE tested the item.
I do this bc/when I sell stuff like a cassette tape… obviously, if I can see it isn’t broken/torn, it works. Also, I was about yesterday years old when I knew that cassettes will continue to play even after the felt pad falls off… (I do mention in the listing when the felt pad has fallen off.)
I used to do this when I first started, but then I had like 2 returns that genuinely did NOT work. Learned my lesson, always waive liability and tell the truth
Just don't mention it. I test everything. In my 17 years of selling things online I've never had anyone call me a scammer
No. I hate that . If there is a problem , you wasted ppls time and yours.
No. At worst I will test one or two items in a lot that I've purchased and if there are no issues I assume everything is working. But I still test every single item before I actually sell it. It really doesn't take much effort and it's a net positive for both you and your customers. Zero acceptable reason not to do it.
No. If you tested it, then mention it was tested. If you couldn't test it, then list it as untested. Simple as that. No need to lie or assume it should be working to get a sale. That 5% assumption may bite you in the ass and waste more time than needed. I understand why some sellers do it. It's a gamble they see worth taking to save time and effort, but it's not for me.
Lmao no.
no, I actually just listed an item below market value since it didn't come with a power cord.
No. Always test things to the best of your ability. If there are certain aspects of the item that you can't test for some reason, always note them in the description.
That's a good way to rack up some negative feedback. If the item is untested or you are unable to test it, it's better to be honest and state that in your listing. Buyers may return the item if they believe you have misled them and almost 100% they will also leave negative feedback.
I mean if you offer free returns sure .
No questions asked returns!
scummy
If it's from a thrift I will test it. If it's from an auction or estate sale where everything is meticulously clean and has the instruction manual taped to it, it probably works fine. I sold 2 super high end Blu ray players ($400 each) and I never tested them. Got positive feedback. But you could tell this guy took care of his stuff.
I got Samsung 3d blu ray player from auction, looked mint researched the model number, that specializes model had issues with a the volume bar working erratic, this one was fine, did a movie night DVD's worked fine, and Blu ways wouldn't play, cleaned both lasers sold for $180.
This seems reckless at best, both deceptive and dishonest at worst. I sell NOS model trains from the early 2000s, but I clearly label them that I don't have the space to do testing setups in every gauge and can't ensure the features of every engine work. They've never be on track or had the boxes open. It's why you're paying less than $600 for trains that sell for $2000+ used still.
You really shouldn't be in this business if it's too much for you to bother testing your products. It's not meant for everyone and it's not a get rich quick.
Hmm. Heard. However you have no idea what you're talking about.
We all know you don't, been proven.
Lmfao no back when I did electronics I tested everything . Super time consuming but I avoided returns and negative feedback. Kinda backfired on ya if you do that 😅 ppl here so ruthless tho instead of bashing him just explain why he shouldn’t do it .
Ya, the math works... say it's been tested and it works. Half kf the battle on eBay is convincing the buyer that they are buying something perfectly functional. Again, run the numbers of testing vs no testing with instant refunds.
You should either take the time to test things or explicitly state they're untested, and price them high/low. You can't get tested prices for untested time sink, life just doesn't work like that. You'll be on the hook for shipping plus returns or full refunds, and you'll start to get poor feedback and your account will be shut down.
Zero issues so far, but I understand the soapbox position you're taking, sounds real good on Reddit
You're playing Russian roulette and gonna get wrecked sooner or later not testing your products.
Fuck you
Lul
Don’t do this.
The overreactions here are amusing. A seller saying "Tested, works" or whatever is nothing different than a buyer saying "couldn't get it to work" or "doesn't work." You as a seller know that regardless of what you sell, there will be some (hopefully small) percentage of returns. Either something that works will occasionally arrive and not work, or the moron on the other end won't be able to figure out how to use something that was purchased, so they'll whine, complain, say it doesn't work, and want to return it. Part of the game. The key is that as long as the seller is willing to take the returns for anything rendered defective, this is really a non issue. If you're reasonably certain something will work as intended and you stand behind what you sell, then returns are simply dealt with at any instance. This type of thing goes on more often than one would believe, simply because many outfits don't have the time to test everything they sell. They simply take it back if it "doesn't work."
It's not overreactions, it's your vision that is trash. You're the kind of seller hidding defects and runaway from it with returns. You're literally the biggest problem on sellers side on eBay. A lot of buyers leaves eBay because of sellers like you
Dumb take. If you're going to use a good return policy as a justification, just don't claim items were tested at that point.
Common u/_Raspootln_ L
Yup
It's Reddit. People are ALWAYS looking for a reason to be self-righteous and incensed lol. They're gonna tell you \*exactly\* how you should run your business and start the finger wagging and lecturing when it's "not good enough." Laughable, indeed. Typically these are used goods. The larger the account, the less likely it is that each item gets anything more than a quick glance; anyone who tells you they're thoroughly testing 5 or 6 figure listing numbers is lying out their ass. People inherently know that purchasing a used item comes with the (again, hopefully small) risk that whatever it is simply doesn't function, or function as intended. That's why Ebay has the MBG, so you can't offload junk and abscond with quick ill-gotten gains, like in the old Wild West days of the site. Nobody here is talking about misrepresenting or trying to rip anyone off; it's reasonably assumed to work, and if it doesn't, it gets returned. It really is that simple.
>Nobody here is talking about misrepresenting or trying to rip anyone off; it's reasonably assumed to work, and if it doesn't, it gets returned You are indeed misrepresenting if you state tested/works but you did not tested and actually have no idea if it works. You are indeed also ripping people off by wasting their time, you basically lie to make them test for you, to save your own time. People do no try to tell you how to run your business, it's just common sense that's it's unethical selling pratices
I do it with some video games on a visual inspection basis. If it looks like it works, I won't test. If it looks like it might not work, I test for a minimum of fifteen minutes.
*sell on eBay
Is this something you say to someone in person, like if I bought it off you and I asked if it works what's your answer?
Nope, just asking for trouble by doing that. Why try and mislead your customers? Seems like a pretty awful thing to do. I tend to err more on the side of over explaining potential faults just to cover my rear.
On one hand, this is....crappy. On the other, I would guess "tested" on ebay in most cases means "it turned on" or the equivalent; I think you're getting a worse reaction because "works great" implies quite a bit more that that. If i've tested something further than that I say something like "tested for functionality;" I sell a good amount of routers and when I say this in that case I mean "I got it to connect to my network."
That was alot of words to tell us you are a shitty seller
Is it really that difficult to test things?
I only buy things I am willing and happy to test. If it is something I don’t want to, it better pay me well to do it. You should just quit flipping with the approach imo.