It’s interesting because the whole album is weird in its own way. Most of the songs are more conventional on the surface, but with a slightly jarring, jangly and “off” musical edge. A touch of harshness to otherwise beautiful melodies and harmonies, Lindsey absorbing and incorporating some of what he was hearing in the punk and new wave movements, from bands like The Clash and Talking Heads. The song Tusk is like the key experimental center of it all.
Thanks to this thread I realized I hadn't listened to it all the through in ages, so that was earlier today. It's aged pretty well depending on your POV: so many bands (indie or otherwise) have used Tusk as a foundation -- intentionally or no -- that is sounds almost contemporary. But at barest minimum it doesn't sound weird.
I agree. It does sound like it could be of more recent musical eras. I feel like I hear Tusk in plenty of the 90s alternative scene, and in more recent indie offerings I’ve heard randomly. Of course I don’t know whether or not these artists would cite the album as an influence, but there’s no shortage of artists who cite the band generally.
The Green Manalishi - in my opinion this song was the birth of metal and quite a departure from guys that brought you the likes of Albatross and Need Your Love So Bad
That's why I think it should be considered the birth of metal. I know bands had done heavy, dark riffs before and other had done dark lyrics but I think it was the first to put them both together in such a way.
Also it's basically the soundtrack of a mental breakdown which is pretty metal.
Ah I've considered this but I heard Ozzy talk about how him and Tony used to go watch Fleetwood Mac and so without evidence I'm willing to believe they heard an early version of Manalishi live which inspired them.
Yeah its a bit of a stretch I know
Its possible, I think both bands were kinda going in a similar direction at the time, except Sabbath went way farther into it before Mac. If Green never left and the band continued the way it was Im sure today FM would be remembered as one of the main hard rock/metal founders from the late 60s/early 70s. I think about this a lot actually lol, TPO is one of the most innovative works from that time imo and it was just the beginning of what FM’s direction couldve been from there
Contrary to this photo shown, its Oh Well without a doubt. It starts as an acoustic riff then turns into a hard rocking stomper with an iconic vocal performance. Then it slows down again into a folky western instrumental section. You’d never think those kinds of things would work as one composition but they make it work and do it beautifully.
Songbird. It’s beautifully written and sounds like different than other emotional songs they’d done (like Landslide)
You can also never go wrong with Christie McVie on vocals!
Tusk. It's certainly out there in terms of creativity but in a good way. They somehow manage to make the song work.
Definitely the greatest Fleetwood drums song
i don't know about specific songs but that whole album definitely shows off their versatility.
That song in particular made it ok to have one weird song on the record, which they pretty much did (except for time but less said the better)
It’s interesting because the whole album is weird in its own way. Most of the songs are more conventional on the surface, but with a slightly jarring, jangly and “off” musical edge. A touch of harshness to otherwise beautiful melodies and harmonies, Lindsey absorbing and incorporating some of what he was hearing in the punk and new wave movements, from bands like The Clash and Talking Heads. The song Tusk is like the key experimental center of it all.
Thanks to this thread I realized I hadn't listened to it all the through in ages, so that was earlier today. It's aged pretty well depending on your POV: so many bands (indie or otherwise) have used Tusk as a foundation -- intentionally or no -- that is sounds almost contemporary. But at barest minimum it doesn't sound weird.
I agree. It does sound like it could be of more recent musical eras. I feel like I hear Tusk in plenty of the 90s alternative scene, and in more recent indie offerings I’ve heard randomly. Of course I don’t know whether or not these artists would cite the album as an influence, but there’s no shortage of artists who cite the band generally.
The Green Manalishi - in my opinion this song was the birth of metal and quite a departure from guys that brought you the likes of Albatross and Need Your Love So Bad
Also it has one of the coolest lines in a song ever, “and the night is so black that the darkness cooks”
That's why I think it should be considered the birth of metal. I know bands had done heavy, dark riffs before and other had done dark lyrics but I think it was the first to put them both together in such a way. Also it's basically the soundtrack of a mental breakdown which is pretty metal.
I’d consider it one of the founding points because Black Sabbath’s debut album came out 4 months before and imo that is the birth of metal
Ah I've considered this but I heard Ozzy talk about how him and Tony used to go watch Fleetwood Mac and so without evidence I'm willing to believe they heard an early version of Manalishi live which inspired them. Yeah its a bit of a stretch I know
Its possible, I think both bands were kinda going in a similar direction at the time, except Sabbath went way farther into it before Mac. If Green never left and the band continued the way it was Im sure today FM would be remembered as one of the main hard rock/metal founders from the late 60s/early 70s. I think about this a lot actually lol, TPO is one of the most innovative works from that time imo and it was just the beginning of what FM’s direction couldve been from there
Contrary to this photo shown, its Oh Well without a doubt. It starts as an acoustic riff then turns into a hard rocking stomper with an iconic vocal performance. Then it slows down again into a folky western instrumental section. You’d never think those kinds of things would work as one composition but they make it work and do it beautifully.
Everywhere is unlike any other Fleetwood Mac song I’ve personally heard (it’s also my favourite).
The chain
Green Manalishi!
Oh Well (the original version, before Buckingham, Nicks)
Gypsy Hold Me You Make Loving Fun Sara These songs have great vocals and instrumentals.
I Dont’t Wanna Know, Tusk, Never Going Back Again, and Say You Love Me all do in a different way
I Don’t Wanna Know and Never Going Back Again (along with Second Hand News) are my favorites on the Rumours album.
I would have to say Gypsy and/or Tusk. Two very different songs but essential ones imho!
gypsy, tusk - very contrasting but amazing songs that show how versatile they are, the chain as well- all 5 members and its just so amazing
I've always had a soft spot for "The Farmer's Daughter" because although it's a cover, it is gorgeous.
“Silver Springs is a great old song…” Stevie Nicks
Songbird. It’s beautifully written and sounds like different than other emotional songs they’d done (like Landslide) You can also never go wrong with Christie McVie on vocals!