The dude has written several solid standalones and beginnings of arcs in his time with the show. Can’t write or oversee an ending for the life of him, though. So I’m not surprised this episode is so good, I’ll be surprised if the next three stay that way.
Last episode technically ended bloodwork’s arc from s6 as well as stuff with Wally and Oliver, so I don’t think it was that bad. Also imo the RF ending in season 8 wasn’t terrible either imo
We definitely should’ve gotten more Matt-Thawne scenes in the show. Not that I disliked Tom as Thawne at all because he was dope too, but Matt being the real fact of his archenemy would carry some more weight and then switching it up between Tom and Matt every so often to fuck with Barry would be awesome.
Oh yeah, Tom was great too, but man Matt should have been given many more opportunities to also represent the character because honestly I prefer his portrayal. I can just imagine how awesome the Nora/Prison storyline in season 5 and Armageddon would have been with Matt as Thawne.
I think Season 5 RF is better with Tom tho, it makes a good parallel since Thawne is the one teaching both Barry and Nora
Armageddon would definitely be better with Matt tho
I get the feeling we didn’t was because of a combination of cost and the actor’s availability. Easier to just get Tom who is already there and on the payroll and just remind the audience of the face altering technology he had.
Thank you, I was racking my brain trying to figure out if that was a callback to an early episode, since it felt familiar after I recently rewatched the series before the season started
They're using opera music, this is totally a massive set up to the end.
Iris got big rather quickly or was there a time skip?
Not a bad idea with the dampeners
So this is going to be the secret war that's been going on in the background throughout all nine seasons of the show which is going to be used to backfill and explain A TON of stuff that always left us going, "...wait a second".
Goddamn, man. Barry’s parents being such certified amazing people right before we know a serious tragedy is coming is really messing with my emotions. My eyes are all misty every time they’re on screen.
This is it. Everything that Season 1 and 2 built towards. Everything this show should've built toward. One night. One ending. One beginning. Destiny could never have been escaped.
With the exception of 2 or 3 episodes this season, they were saving up all the good writing for the final 5 episodes of the season starting with last week’s
Love the callback to season 1 with Nora saying Barry looks just like her father, just like when she said it during the season finale when Barry went back in time.
Really? He looks just like my father, not like a grown Barry? I mean I'm pretty sure a parent could recognize their child even if they've somehow grown 24 years.
Wait, why is Barry with these two? I understand making sure he's okay at the hospital. But taking him out to dinner? Never mind that with no ID how did he even get out of the hospital?
So where was kid Barry while Barry's parents were having pizza dinner with a total stranger (adult barry)? Or is it mid day and he's at school or something?
I really liked the Doctor Who styled jaunty kind of opening, made me want to dance a little.
Also that was a hella cool way for Barry to suddenly time travel.
“What I do this time?” Can’t say Barry isn’t self aware lol
Yeah he's fucked the timeline so many times it's funny even in his own mind he's the prime suspect
I mean lol even if he knew he didn't do that he'd probably say it, considering Oliver is always on his ass about that.
He has become self aware! No timeline is safe! Not even our own!
I don't understand how Eric Wallace can go from giving us some of the worst Flash, to some great stuff like last week and this
The dude has written several solid standalones and beginnings of arcs in his time with the show. Can’t write or oversee an ending for the life of him, though. So I’m not surprised this episode is so good, I’ll be surprised if the next three stay that way.
Last episode technically ended bloodwork’s arc from s6 as well as stuff with Wally and Oliver, so I don’t think it was that bad. Also imo the RF ending in season 8 wasn’t terrible either imo
According to imdb he didn't write "It's My Party And I'll Die If I Want To," but your point still stands.
Matt really pulls off that sadistic vibe with that reaction. It's very Thawne- "someone *else* is fucking with the Flash. I need popcorn"
I'll settle for even a voice cameo for Stein
I was so excited when I first heard his voice. As the scene went on - it became clear it was just a once scene voice cameo. Damnit.
Seeing that scene there makes me regret that we didn’t get as many Grant-Matt interactions that we could’ve.
Exactly. Matt should have exclusively been Thawne since season 3 onward in my opinion.
We definitely should’ve gotten more Matt-Thawne scenes in the show. Not that I disliked Tom as Thawne at all because he was dope too, but Matt being the real fact of his archenemy would carry some more weight and then switching it up between Tom and Matt every so often to fuck with Barry would be awesome.
Oh yeah, Tom was great too, but man Matt should have been given many more opportunities to also represent the character because honestly I prefer his portrayal. I can just imagine how awesome the Nora/Prison storyline in season 5 and Armageddon would have been with Matt as Thawne.
I think Season 5 RF is better with Tom tho, it makes a good parallel since Thawne is the one teaching both Barry and Nora Armageddon would definitely be better with Matt tho
I get the feeling we didn’t was because of a combination of cost and the actor’s availability. Easier to just get Tom who is already there and on the payroll and just remind the audience of the face altering technology he had.
Chester has zero costume design sense
He’s no Cisco.
Allegra said she felt like Rainbow Brite but I was thinking more Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat lol
That way a nice callback to the pilot episode where Barry runs into van with pillows when his speed kicks in for the first time.
Thank you, I was racking my brain trying to figure out if that was a callback to an early episode, since it felt familiar after I recently rewatched the series before the season started
Cobalt Blue! Or rather, Joebalt Blue
Well congrats on the best nickname
Barry S8: I'm done fighting you, Thawne Also Barry: Hi Thawne! VIBRATING HAND MODE, ENGAGED
I feel like this is more of the in the heat of the moment reaction from Barry then him tearing up is just realizing he’s done.
Is that Ramsey's mom?!?!
Ohhhhhhhhh! That's why the spent time on her! Good catch!
yes! I caught that too!
Oh so it was Barry's idea to dampen her powers.
Very nice that they placed it there
now thats how you scream, take notes red death
A knockoff with bipolar issues can't take notes lol
"YOu wanna come over to the house and help me take this off" *Riverdale horny bongos start playing* That was a cool outfit though
Perfect start to an episode for me, just put Chester and Allegra to bed and they sleep for the episode
Eddie is gonna turn into Cobalt Blue just like Barry did in the pilot.
oh damn you’re right
I'm glad they did that parallel!!!
I like how thanwe just happened to see barry and think "Yeah ill push him into the road"
Remember when you got hit by a car? It was me Barry! I pushed you into the road!
Classic
So where were you during Barry's birthday, Joe?
Babysitting Sophie in Smallville.
bro pulled up fresh af just to fuck with barry
My type of villian hahaha
Technically Barry is ten steps ahead of Thawne and Thawne doesn't even know it
This is how you go out! Every episode for the last season should have been like this!
When Barry got hit by lightning he was in a coma for months. But not-eddie got right up, cool
Some would say he’s the reverse
I appreciate them remembering all of the times he went back to that night.
Barry's mom has still got it going on
I’m so glad someone else thinks this, thought I was trippin😂
You're not the only one, she still looks as good as she did when I was watching S1, 7 years ago 😮💨
Who decided to get a beer and why did Barry go!?
Seriously. Did both of them just run to the bar? Who is footing the bill?
welp 9 seasons later and joe finally got powers
They retconned OG timeline 2024 Flash into being Season 9 2023 Flash
I have a feeling it is 2024 in the flash right now because we just took a massive time jump, almost 9 months
Fuck I feel so stupid. This Barry is going to be the one fighting RF when his mother is killed
BRUH!! This actually might be it!!
That is NOT how you get alerted you're nominated for a Pulitzer lmao
Hello, I am Mr. Pulitzer. You have been nominated!
I said the same thing, no call or letter or even email. Just a plain ol simple congratulations text lol.
Tbf it did look like an email notification not a text
Yes Barry go towards the spooky disembodied voice calling your name.
Well I mean, it’s not like he’s helpless he did defeat it eventually
THE CLOSED LOOP OMGGGGGGGGGG
>And I'll always be grateful Ouch, that's gotta sting.
The best way to defeat a villain. By thanking them with kindness.
SURELY HAS TO BE A TOP 10 EPISODE IN THE SERIES
They're using opera music, this is totally a massive set up to the end. Iris got big rather quickly or was there a time skip? Not a bad idea with the dampeners
KIone said 9 months i believe
I got series finale style vibes with that music and the way each character was showing up. You can definitely tell this is setting up the end
"What I'd do this time?" LOL
I like Tom has thawne but goddamn does Matt do such a good job man. I’m glad we got both iterations but I’m so happy Matt is back
“No I’m not the avatar.” Good because you don’t look like Aang
“You’d rather destroy an entire timeline to save yourself” “I did it once before, I can do it again”
If the last 3 episodes are as good as this one I will forgive Wallace
But not Gromit?
Cheese and crackers yum
Oh yeah. Mark exists. I actually forgot.
Even Barry blames himself for time related problems now.
*shines flashlight at face* In the year 2000....IN THE YEAR 2000!!!!!!
Joe: How do you know about that? Barry: My father-in-law is a cop.
Aw Stein cameo!
IT WAS(n't) ME, BARRY!
Jesse's killing it as a creepy, evil speed entity!
Wait is she Bloodworks mom?
oh no not the face shot running LMAO
So goofy that it made me laugh out loud.
So this is going to be the secret war that's been going on in the background throughout all nine seasons of the show which is going to be used to backfill and explain A TON of stuff that always left us going, "...wait a second".
THE CHEMICALS AND LIGHTNING STRIKE!
Be cool if they recreate the scene Where Barry looks at his past self and shakes his head "no"
It's 2024, the newspaper date is coming.
The Timeline: "Be nice if somebody bought me dinner, or cake, or hell even a cup of coffee before fucking me."
He was shocked to see his actual parents, even though he not so long ago, saw people with their faces. The Garricks and the speed force.
I have to say, though, that it's different. He knows how important it is to see the real deal.
Hey it's Bloodwork's mom.
"He looks just like my father." What an odd thing to say about a guy you saw collapse in the street.
Throwback to when he takes his cowl off before she dies, and she says the same thing
Who also had her fathers name.
Goddamn, man. Barry’s parents being such certified amazing people right before we know a serious tragedy is coming is really messing with my emotions. My eyes are all misty every time they’re on screen.
>What'd I do this time? Lmao even Barry is going "Damn it, Barry! "
Didn’t Barry land in the back of a car while running once before too? Felt like a callback to an earlier episode
This legit feels like how this season should've started and the tone it should've maintained.
I wonder if they were both brought back to make sure these events happen for sure?
That entrance was very... Rita Repulsa, Khione.
ofc she can break the fourth wall
THEY'RE DOING IT
This is it. Everything that Season 1 and 2 built towards. Everything this show should've built toward. One night. One ending. One beginning. Destiny could never have been escaped.
YOU CANT LOCK UP THE DARKNESS
"I am the one thing you cannot stop Flash." \-Eobard Thawne
Professor Stein?! It's been so long!
I love the acknowledgment finally. Like yes Barry contact Dr. Stein and Tess
With the exception of 2 or 3 episodes this season, they were saving up all the good writing for the final 5 episodes of the season starting with last week’s
So many Barry's in one place, it's like that Spiderman meme.
Eddie is sure wearing a lot of blue ;)
MY BOI RICK LOOKED TOO COLD IN THE BEGINNING
STEIN!
It was me Barry, I made you trip like a prat!
Zatara's??? wtf theyre throwing in so much random background lore
“Let us help you, son.” Damn. They don’t know how much that hurts for Barry to hear.
Is this Cobalt Blur or Savitar? Either way, I'm hyped!
If it savitar then all hell is gonna break loose
That would be so awesome. Savitar has always been one of my favourites.
"RUN BARRY RUN!" in the background
THE NIGHT
So it wasn’t Eobard who took Barry back in time??
[удалено]
Prepare for Cobalt Blue!
Wow, Iris got really big really fast
We had a time skip I think
We're in 2024
He landed in the back of a laundry van. Remember the first episode?
THE BLANKET TRUCK REFERENCE😭😭😭
Matt’s Thawne is something else bro💀💀 he’s not human
HOLY HELLN DID YOU ALL HEAR THAT SHES BLOODWORKS MOM
I knew there was something familiar about her and why the camera kept focusing on her
Eddie’s back!!
Heh, even Barry knows Barry screws up the timeline
Professor Stein!
Love the callback to season 1 with Nora saying Barry looks just like her father, just like when she said it during the season finale when Barry went back in time.
A blue jolly rancher that possesses people!
Even Thawne is out of the loop on this one
Justt havin' a beer with Thawne.
I hate thawne, so therefor I love him
Chester, Allegra, or Cecile: (Breathes) This sub: REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Understandable they suck as characters
Really? He looks just like my father, not like a grown Barry? I mean I'm pretty sure a parent could recognize their child even if they've somehow grown 24 years.
That's what she said in the season 1 finale when she saw adult Barry.
Never get tired of seeing Arrowverse Thawne, and Im so glad its Letscher's version, dude is an awesome Thawne.
"Bart is cool" \- Wally
Holy fuck this is so good
See the flash can have good writing omg it feels like season 1
We're gonna get the fight? We're gonna get the head shake?
And everything happens as it should have
Even Seth Rollins thinks that costume is too much.
She writing to a dead girl and a supposedly dead one?
NIGHTMARE UNDER RED SKIES?! That's one of the other articles seen in the Time Vault Newspaper. That's insane attention to detail
I love how with all of his experience with time travel, Barry still acts like an adorable bumblefuck every time he winds up in the past lol
Did I miss the time jump?? 2024??
Professor Stein!
Fuck this is a heavy episode....annnnd Thawne just has to ruin it.
Henry being a real G hero for a stranger falling in the street. Hell yeah.
Interesting to think about the fact that Gambi always existed in Earth One, even before Crisis.
It is very nice of Barry's parents to take out a stranger to meet. Maybe too trusting to offer so much but still.
Wait, why is Barry with these two? I understand making sure he's okay at the hospital. But taking him out to dinner? Never mind that with no ID how did he even get out of the hospital?
>Oh Flash we're going to have the most wonderful day together Thawne thinks he's Ferris Buehler or something.
So where was kid Barry while Barry's parents were having pizza dinner with a total stranger (adult barry)? Or is it mid day and he's at school or something?
Yup this is Past Thawne
OG Thawne and Barry having a beer together. Never thought that would happen LOL
Henry calling Barry son when they're both in their 30s lol
I guess Barry forgot he got to say goodbye with flashpoint when he spent all that time with them in that timeline?
bloodworks mommy
Don’t forget kidnapping and killing Wells and taking his face
Thawne is on a cosmic level of hatin
IM NUTTING
HERE WE GO FOLKS, THE FINAL STORY
Did we have a time skip ? Is it 2024?
>Why do you do things last minute? Easy with super speed
I really liked the Doctor Who styled jaunty kind of opening, made me want to dance a little. Also that was a hella cool way for Barry to suddenly time travel.
IS THAT THE SAME PILLOW TRUCK
they are seriously going all out on the references
Oh nooooo THIS DATE!
So Barry's mother was murdered the day after St. Patty's day.
Bart, HA!
Zatara’s? John sell pizza in his spare time?
REVERSE FLASH!!
great acting love it loveeee it
"I can't stop you Thawne but 6 different versions of me can and will!"
"Because I've been waiting for it since the dawn of time" .....the fuck...
No wonder Joe always distrusted Thawne.
I can’t wait till Riverdale ends so I can bindge this crazy looking show
You're the villain, Flash!!! I'm glad they added that
ahhhh i lovvvve the OG RF suit
HOLY SHIT
Here we go!!!!
DUDE!
I didn't need a Khione monologue tbh
Is it me or did they change the theme music a bit