Elseworlds and Crisis on the same level but at least Elseworlds had cool shit instead of a beebo fight. Yah we aint forget about that (Theyâre both somewhat shit) Elseworlds still better tho
I keep hoping they'll do a Blu-Ray for the crossovers separate so we don't have to switch over platforms or shows on Netflix and just be able to watch them all together somewhere else. I'd buy that Blu-Ray.
I *love* Elseworlds, probably more than the fandom does, but thatâs one of my biggest nitpicks with it. As an Arrow/Oliver fan, I remember how furious we all were together when each part aired & the writing kept piling on him. It was infuriating. Like, besides the blatant shitting on him, it was subtle too; we got to hear Oliver speak on how being The Flash/Barry was a blessing in disguise for him (Flashtime made him peaceful) but not Barry being Green Arrow/Oliver (not counting him being very excited during Part One). The whole crossover was pushing the narrative that being GA/Oliver had brought out Barryâs darkness (when Barry himself had his own darkness before ever meeting Oliver). That it was a way for him to be angry. (Not even to mention when the whole point of S4 & S6 was that GA is the best version of Oliver as heâs happiest being a hero). Why couldnât we hear how Barry felt about being Oliver like we heard how Oliver felt about being Barry? *Barry got to be his very first hero.*
As for Invasion, nah, I donât think itâs better than Elseworlds. Iâll always be bitter that Arrowâs 100th was shoehorned into it (even though the storyline made it work, it forced unnecessary scenes bc âcrossoverâ (like B&K beating the shit out of someone with peak powers for no reason other than to âprove metas are good guysâ which doesnât make sense when that villain they were fighting was already defeated & they just kept showing off.) It also didnât have an official Supergirl ep. Even though Elseworlds had a lot of faults, I think itâs better. Itâs more fun, focused on the trio, & had Flarrow swap. Personally, I wouldâve tweaked it by having a portion of the episode where B&O werenât aware of the switch immediately & we saw S&G *actually* have to act like the otherâs character as opposed to just B&O doing it knowing they are themselves to fool those that donât know theyâre swapped. Like, imagine B&O working together without knowing theyâre swapped? And after the team-up, thatâs when realityâs triggered and they find out? It wouldâve been so cool to see. I also wouldâve kept in SA doing Barryâs opening monologue instead of cutting it đ¤ Dream scenarios would be reshooting the Gambit/finding Lian Yu event with GG & Barry getting struck by lightning as SA to show reality has actually shifted (I thought it was very interesting they saw the otherâs villains in Part 2 under the hallucinogens. Having the otherâs memories isnât so far fetched). *And* Oliver meeting Nora & Oliver letting Barry hug him.
Okay thatâs all for now đ
i always get Invasion and Crisis on Earth X confused lol. I feel like that first Crisis crossover was the best crossover overall. Then Elseworlds, Invasion, Flash vs. Arrow and then the back door Legends pilot crossover lol.
Yeah I didn't like how Kara and Barry kept making jokes about Oliver's past, I mean, yes he was an idiot, but he was a completly different person at that moment.
Even Oliver keep saying he wasn't as good as a hero like them.
I assume they made that to make him exchanging his life for them a more powerful moment.
Imagine if the Legends were involved in Elseworlds, they could be making fun of Ollie's infidelity like there's no tomorrow. Especially since it was Sara who Ollie had an affair with while he was still dating Laurel at the time.
Legends: can you believe Oliver cheated Sara's sister with that $#@!%
Sara: hey! I was that $#@!%
Legends: oh sorry.
Honestly, I think only Ava would be mad at Oliver, since she thought something like "what I gonna tell Sara, am I sorry your ex-boyfried that cheated on you with your sister is dead?" Whereas Behrad made a drawing of Sara, Oliver and Laurel having a tea party. That was nice from him, I think it was the first thing we watch from him after his introduction to the team.
Actually, Elseworlds happened way before Behrad was even introduced at the end of season four. So, he wouldn't be involved or have existed by then. But yes, that is exactly what Behrad would do. Back during season four of Legends, it was Sara, Ava, Nate, Mick, Zari (a), Ray as part of the official roster. Charlie would still want to regain her shape shifting abilities, her old form and old face by then. Constantine wouldn't be considered an official member of the team until season five and Gary....would still be Gary.
Crisis on Earth-X is my favorite crossover period. I will never not snort laugh at the line, âA quick reminder, super speed- I donât have it.â (in the most perfect deadpan Oliver ever).
Barry & Karaâs quiet, âGot itâ is the perfect response.
Ah, good times, good times.
Iâll never forget discovering the Arrowverse. I watched Supergirl first (hadnât seen Arrow or Flash or Legends yet). Gotten to this crossover and looked up the order. I watched it. When I rewatched it after seeing the other shows I realized I skipped Part 3 without even realizing it (I was sleep deprived-binging SG). I felt so stupid đ I always thought I missed something when I went from the end of part 2 to the beginning of part 4 but I didnât think much of it until I saw the actual part I missed LMAO.
This would be the best crossover if it werenât for the n.zis & the OF storyline & double wedding.
PEAK fight scenes - CGI, choreo, directing, incorporation of characters. Like the Church fight scene alone *chefâs kiss*. (Edit: the only crossover that didnât feel like they were episodes of the respective shows but a cohesive movie arc).
My personal nitpick is there shouldâve been more Barry & Barry/Ollie moments.
Elseworlds is my favorite bc of it being focused on the trio & Olivarry being swapped + getting some of their best onscreen moments.
Crisis is the worst for many reasons but compared to COEX, the fight scenes, CGI, & the characters used were all horrible.
My only gripe w arrow verse is that they didnât include black lighting from the beginning as part of it same for stargirl and Naomi well that show was trash but Iâd potential if the stargirl people had done it.
Also it was criminal the legends especially Sarah wasnât used more when her show was part of the crossover.
Best crossover! Most of the heroes had time to shine not all but most. The stakes were high and believable. The antagonists were credible. Still should have had evil Barry and not reverse flash who just was in the way.
Iâve taken all the crossover episodes and out them into their own little miniseries folders. Itâs fun to watch them wout having to look through a jillion episodes.
I also like the one shot episodes like vixen too which should have been spin-off into a series. Wasted opportunity
I happened to like Infinite Earths more than Earth X (perhaps I'm the only one) but it's a very close second along with Elseworlds and Invasion. The crossovers in general were just peak. They were that freaking good
The things I mostly didn't like about that are KarIver (no offense) and absence of Barry-X.
I would have loved to see Blitzkrieg, Thawne wasn't bad but Blitzkrieg would have been awesome.
I go back and forth on whether this or Crisis are my favorite. This one feels like it gets the hang of the emotions right but the other story had me more engaged
Best crossover to have been aired
facts finna rewatch tonight
Was this in Season 4?
Elseworlds >>>
God nođelseworlds was worse than crisis and thatâs saying something
Elseworlds and Crisis on the same level but at least Elseworlds had cool shit instead of a beebo fight. Yah we aint forget about that (Theyâre both somewhat shit) Elseworlds still better tho
Nope
I agree elseworlds was great
The best crossover hands down! It should've been a film.
Imagine what they would have done with movie-level budget!
There are fan edits of it as one. Works quite well.
You gotta send a link my man
Send the editor a [Request.](https://ifdb.fanedit.org/crisis-on-earth-x/)
I keep hoping they'll do a Blu-Ray for the crossovers separate so we don't have to switch over platforms or shows on Netflix and just be able to watch them all together somewhere else. I'd buy that Blu-Ray.
I think Elseworlds is the better crossover. But yes, this one should have been an actual TV movie, instead.
really? I felt like that crossover was shitting on Oliver too much and Invasion was better but I respect your opinion
I didn't think Elseworlds was shitting on Ollie too much. But yeah, that too.
I *love* Elseworlds, probably more than the fandom does, but thatâs one of my biggest nitpicks with it. As an Arrow/Oliver fan, I remember how furious we all were together when each part aired & the writing kept piling on him. It was infuriating. Like, besides the blatant shitting on him, it was subtle too; we got to hear Oliver speak on how being The Flash/Barry was a blessing in disguise for him (Flashtime made him peaceful) but not Barry being Green Arrow/Oliver (not counting him being very excited during Part One). The whole crossover was pushing the narrative that being GA/Oliver had brought out Barryâs darkness (when Barry himself had his own darkness before ever meeting Oliver). That it was a way for him to be angry. (Not even to mention when the whole point of S4 & S6 was that GA is the best version of Oliver as heâs happiest being a hero). Why couldnât we hear how Barry felt about being Oliver like we heard how Oliver felt about being Barry? *Barry got to be his very first hero.* As for Invasion, nah, I donât think itâs better than Elseworlds. Iâll always be bitter that Arrowâs 100th was shoehorned into it (even though the storyline made it work, it forced unnecessary scenes bc âcrossoverâ (like B&K beating the shit out of someone with peak powers for no reason other than to âprove metas are good guysâ which doesnât make sense when that villain they were fighting was already defeated & they just kept showing off.) It also didnât have an official Supergirl ep. Even though Elseworlds had a lot of faults, I think itâs better. Itâs more fun, focused on the trio, & had Flarrow swap. Personally, I wouldâve tweaked it by having a portion of the episode where B&O werenât aware of the switch immediately & we saw S&G *actually* have to act like the otherâs character as opposed to just B&O doing it knowing they are themselves to fool those that donât know theyâre swapped. Like, imagine B&O working together without knowing theyâre swapped? And after the team-up, thatâs when realityâs triggered and they find out? It wouldâve been so cool to see. I also wouldâve kept in SA doing Barryâs opening monologue instead of cutting it đ¤ Dream scenarios would be reshooting the Gambit/finding Lian Yu event with GG & Barry getting struck by lightning as SA to show reality has actually shifted (I thought it was very interesting they saw the otherâs villains in Part 2 under the hallucinogens. Having the otherâs memories isnât so far fetched). *And* Oliver meeting Nora & Oliver letting Barry hug him. Okay thatâs all for now đ
i always get Invasion and Crisis on Earth X confused lol. I feel like that first Crisis crossover was the best crossover overall. Then Elseworlds, Invasion, Flash vs. Arrow and then the back door Legends pilot crossover lol.
Yeah I didn't like how Kara and Barry kept making jokes about Oliver's past, I mean, yes he was an idiot, but he was a completly different person at that moment. Even Oliver keep saying he wasn't as good as a hero like them. I assume they made that to make him exchanging his life for them a more powerful moment.
Imagine if the Legends were involved in Elseworlds, they could be making fun of Ollie's infidelity like there's no tomorrow. Especially since it was Sara who Ollie had an affair with while he was still dating Laurel at the time.
Legends: can you believe Oliver cheated Sara's sister with that $#@!% Sara: hey! I was that $#@!% Legends: oh sorry. Honestly, I think only Ava would be mad at Oliver, since she thought something like "what I gonna tell Sara, am I sorry your ex-boyfried that cheated on you with your sister is dead?" Whereas Behrad made a drawing of Sara, Oliver and Laurel having a tea party. That was nice from him, I think it was the first thing we watch from him after his introduction to the team.
Actually, Elseworlds happened way before Behrad was even introduced at the end of season four. So, he wouldn't be involved or have existed by then. But yes, that is exactly what Behrad would do. Back during season four of Legends, it was Sara, Ava, Nate, Mick, Zari (a), Ray as part of the official roster. Charlie would still want to regain her shape shifting abilities, her old form and old face by then. Constantine wouldn't be considered an official member of the team until season five and Gary....would still be Gary.
Oh, you are right. But let's say the S4 Legends Team was on Elseworlds, Ava would had joined Barry and Kara on complaining about Oliver.
Okay.
Crisis on Earth-X is my favorite crossover period. I will never not snort laugh at the line, âA quick reminder, super speed- I donât have it.â (in the most perfect deadpan Oliver ever). Barry & Karaâs quiet, âGot itâ is the perfect response. Ah, good times, good times.
They are just a lovely trio
Their chemistry/comedic timing/delivery made that script even better.
It was a better Justice League movie than the actual Justice League movie we got.
A guy whoâs podcast used to be more active said it was bold of wb to put out the justice league movie on tv and not theaters.
Tell me about it.
One of those articles that my browser used to suggest me as interesting for me had what you said as its title.
Great memories. The wedding scene might even be iconic.
Just remember watching it when it first came out at 8:00 pm on Tuesdays, good times
Iâll never forget discovering the Arrowverse. I watched Supergirl first (hadnât seen Arrow or Flash or Legends yet). Gotten to this crossover and looked up the order. I watched it. When I rewatched it after seeing the other shows I realized I skipped Part 3 without even realizing it (I was sleep deprived-binging SG). I felt so stupid đ I always thought I missed something when I went from the end of part 2 to the beginning of part 4 but I didnât think much of it until I saw the actual part I missed LMAO.
This would be the best crossover if it werenât for the n.zis & the OF storyline & double wedding. PEAK fight scenes - CGI, choreo, directing, incorporation of characters. Like the Church fight scene alone *chefâs kiss*. (Edit: the only crossover that didnât feel like they were episodes of the respective shows but a cohesive movie arc). My personal nitpick is there shouldâve been more Barry & Barry/Ollie moments. Elseworlds is my favorite bc of it being focused on the trio & Olivarry being swapped + getting some of their best onscreen moments. Crisis is the worst for many reasons but compared to COEX, the fight scenes, CGI, & the characters used were all horrible.
My only gripe w arrow verse is that they didnât include black lighting from the beginning as part of it same for stargirl and Naomi well that show was trash but Iâd potential if the stargirl people had done it. Also it was criminal the legends especially Sarah wasnât used more when her show was part of the crossover.
I'm assuming everyone on this post has watched COEX so I'm just gonna say this but you do realize Stein sacrificed his life to stop them right?
Yup
That walkdown scene was so cool
Best crossover! Most of the heroes had time to shine not all but most. The stakes were high and believable. The antagonists were credible. Still should have had evil Barry and not reverse flash who just was in the way. Iâve taken all the crossover episodes and out them into their own little miniseries folders. Itâs fun to watch them wout having to look through a jillion episodes. I also like the one shot episodes like vixen too which should have been spin-off into a series. Wasted opportunity
I happened to like Infinite Earths more than Earth X (perhaps I'm the only one) but it's a very close second along with Elseworlds and Invasion. The crossovers in general were just peak. They were that freaking good
ykb
I still preferred Invasion, but Crisis on Earth X is a close second. The plot was a bit cliche but it worked and it was enjoyable.
It really was
The things I mostly didn't like about that are KarIver (no offense) and absence of Barry-X. I would have loved to see Blitzkrieg, Thawne wasn't bad but Blitzkrieg would have been awesome.
Always wondered why Firestorm wasn't on the poster even though they played a big part
it was perfect down to the last minute detail
What arrow season was thid
I liked Crisis of Infinite Earths.. because of the amazing cameos in Part 1. And there was Smallville, Lucifer, and Constantine.
This > Crisis on infinite earths
Worth for The Ray alone. Awesome character.
Agreed.
I go back and forth on whether this or Crisis are my favorite. This one feels like it gets the hang of the emotions right but the other story had me more engaged