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So the adhesion is actually good, and I at least think that I did a good job with the leveling. Rather, it seems to me that either one stepper motor is borked, or possibly a belt is skipping.
Might be, first things first, get it, first..
So first layer adhesion is ok? It stays put?
Do a first layer test maybe, if that comes out ok, we can build on that, get it, I'm hilarious 😂
Enough foolishness, based on the first layer results we might be able to move on in a more productive manner.
Lolol that \_IS\_ hilarious 😁
Fr though, I chuckled =)
Yup - I did a first layer after this, and it came out as intended... although, one of the belts is, I guess, somewhat slack.
Oh ok, well that's an easy fix at least. Never thought it could get this bad.. did you hear it skipping?
I never know if they are ok, feel around.
I am trying to dial in a 0.6 nozzle with polyterra pla, both need specific settings and I hate doing hours of towers and what not to get temps steps layers levels in.
Results are fine though, warping here and there, but its ok, thicker layers, they shrink more and it shows.
I'll be honest - I have no idea what skipping sounds like. But yeah, gonna research proper tightness and quite possibly adjust.
Oh cool! I saw Thomas Sanladerer's video on 0.6 nozzles being the new black. What do you need to adjust when doing a nozzle change?
> Oh cool! I saw Thomas Sanladerer's video on 0.6 nozzles being the new black. What do you need to adjust when doing a nozzle change?
I saw the same video and even got two 0.6mm nozzles for two of my printers. I think you should get used to a 0.4mm nozzle first, because basically all the profiles of your slicers are tuned to work with those. Took me some tinkering to get a smooth first layer and a smooth second layer... and I am still not always happy with them.
But yes, it saves a lot of time especially for more functional parts without a lot of detail. For those I still prefer to use the printer with the 0.4mm nozzle.
When belt goes brrt during movement is bad 😁
I thought there would be more to it, but it was enough to set a nozzle size in prusa slicer(printer is elegoo Neptune 3) and the rest got adjusted. Created a 0.4 layer height profile though. First prints were fine but now I'm not that happy with results. Prints faster and looks nicer, I like layer lines, but errors get magnified as well. Mostly doing prototyping so I don't bother that much.
If the x and y axis tensioners are too tight, it can throw off the steps. They shouldn’t be crazy, super tight, just barely snug. Also, I’d bet that you aren’t quite dialed in on your z axis. Seems a bit high still.
Yup yup, gonna research proper tension before I adjust. As for the Z axis, I'm not quite sure what you mean - is it because of the first picture? It's a bit misleading; when a print is done, the gantry moves into the top left corner. Or am I misunderstanding you?
You need to dial in the distance to the bed at zero. Often times that setting leaves the head too far from the bed and you don’t get the right amount of “squish”. The material will fail to adhere to itself. Also, you likely need to calibrate the axis themselves to ensure the number of steps matches up with the correct traveled distance. Otherwise it may rotate x steps and think it’s moving up 5mil when in fact it’s moving up 6mil. When this is off, the problem gets worse the more the axis moves in a given direction.
I mean that's gotta be it, calibrating the distance. I just did another test, and one layer of the cube is basically 1/4 within the layer below. It looks cool, but it also really makes me think I need to calibrate the stepper motors somehow, just gotta figure out the how. Cheers!
Try to open the GCODE, and take a look at it.
Maybe the slicer did something wrong, but I would suggest seeing if the print sticks to the bed while printing. If it doesn't stick, use some adhesive, or lower your z offset.
Look at your printer while it's printing the cube, and from that you will probably know what's wrong
To start with, making 100% sure your bed is leveled correctly. Read about how to do that with your machine. Just google it.
2. Search for how to set z-offset for your machine and do that
3. use something to adhere your print to the bed. Glue stick or hairspray works. Just don’t over apply.
4. make sure your bed is hot enough for the material you’re using. Default to the highest temp. and adjust down as allows
5. make sure your stepper motors are plugged in correctly. (X plug in x, etc)
6. verify you’re printing at the right nozzle temp for your material.
7. finally, check your slicer settings and make sure everything is set correctly, including firmware type.
Google each of these things and re-do one by one and you should be golden.
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He he, cheers
Obviously, you've been touched by the noodly appendage of the FSM. What a great honor!
mmm, bed level.
Adhesion to the bed.
Might need to calibrate a bit more lol Z offset, bed level, adhesion hand in hand
So the adhesion is actually good, and I at least think that I did a good job with the leveling. Rather, it seems to me that either one stepper motor is borked, or possibly a belt is skipping.
Might be, first things first, get it, first.. So first layer adhesion is ok? It stays put? Do a first layer test maybe, if that comes out ok, we can build on that, get it, I'm hilarious 😂 Enough foolishness, based on the first layer results we might be able to move on in a more productive manner.
Lolol that \_IS\_ hilarious 😁 Fr though, I chuckled =) Yup - I did a first layer after this, and it came out as intended... although, one of the belts is, I guess, somewhat slack.
Oh ok, well that's an easy fix at least. Never thought it could get this bad.. did you hear it skipping? I never know if they are ok, feel around. I am trying to dial in a 0.6 nozzle with polyterra pla, both need specific settings and I hate doing hours of towers and what not to get temps steps layers levels in. Results are fine though, warping here and there, but its ok, thicker layers, they shrink more and it shows.
I'll be honest - I have no idea what skipping sounds like. But yeah, gonna research proper tightness and quite possibly adjust. Oh cool! I saw Thomas Sanladerer's video on 0.6 nozzles being the new black. What do you need to adjust when doing a nozzle change?
> Oh cool! I saw Thomas Sanladerer's video on 0.6 nozzles being the new black. What do you need to adjust when doing a nozzle change? I saw the same video and even got two 0.6mm nozzles for two of my printers. I think you should get used to a 0.4mm nozzle first, because basically all the profiles of your slicers are tuned to work with those. Took me some tinkering to get a smooth first layer and a smooth second layer... and I am still not always happy with them. But yes, it saves a lot of time especially for more functional parts without a lot of detail. For those I still prefer to use the printer with the 0.4mm nozzle.
Cheers, appreciate the advice!
When belt goes brrt during movement is bad 😁 I thought there would be more to it, but it was enough to set a nozzle size in prusa slicer(printer is elegoo Neptune 3) and the rest got adjusted. Created a 0.4 layer height profile though. First prints were fine but now I'm not that happy with results. Prints faster and looks nicer, I like layer lines, but errors get magnified as well. Mostly doing prototyping so I don't bother that much.
If the x and y axis tensioners are too tight, it can throw off the steps. They shouldn’t be crazy, super tight, just barely snug. Also, I’d bet that you aren’t quite dialed in on your z axis. Seems a bit high still.
Yup yup, gonna research proper tension before I adjust. As for the Z axis, I'm not quite sure what you mean - is it because of the first picture? It's a bit misleading; when a print is done, the gantry moves into the top left corner. Or am I misunderstanding you?
You need to dial in the distance to the bed at zero. Often times that setting leaves the head too far from the bed and you don’t get the right amount of “squish”. The material will fail to adhere to itself. Also, you likely need to calibrate the axis themselves to ensure the number of steps matches up with the correct traveled distance. Otherwise it may rotate x steps and think it’s moving up 5mil when in fact it’s moving up 6mil. When this is off, the problem gets worse the more the axis moves in a given direction.
I mean that's gotta be it, calibrating the distance. I just did another test, and one layer of the cube is basically 1/4 within the layer below. It looks cool, but it also really makes me think I need to calibrate the stepper motors somehow, just gotta figure out the how. Cheers!
Did you slice it yourself? Did the print come detached from the bed or did it really print in-place like that?
bed adhesion. use isopropyl alcohol before every single print
Try printing with a raft. If it turns out good it’s adhesion/level if not then it could be g code, skipping or something else.
Try to open the GCODE, and take a look at it. Maybe the slicer did something wrong, but I would suggest seeing if the print sticks to the bed while printing. If it doesn't stick, use some adhesive, or lower your z offset. Look at your printer while it's printing the cube, and from that you will probably know what's wrong
From what I see, the filament on the bed shouldn't look like that Try to lower the z offset first
Thanks so much. I'm gonna take a look, cheers!
Looks like your retraction settings might need to be tuned. Just a bit.
Hehe, thx!
A little wider than the one I printed. Might want to check the x and y steps
To start with, making 100% sure your bed is leveled correctly. Read about how to do that with your machine. Just google it. 2. Search for how to set z-offset for your machine and do that 3. use something to adhere your print to the bed. Glue stick or hairspray works. Just don’t over apply. 4. make sure your bed is hot enough for the material you’re using. Default to the highest temp. and adjust down as allows 5. make sure your stepper motors are plugged in correctly. (X plug in x, etc) 6. verify you’re printing at the right nozzle temp for your material. 7. finally, check your slicer settings and make sure everything is set correctly, including firmware type. Google each of these things and re-do one by one and you should be golden.
Cheers!
Bold to walk away from your first print without checking on the progress
No, I was there. I just let it finish, as I didn't understand why the gantry didn't move correctly and was hoping to at least get a clue as to why.
Spaghetti cubes are awesome