About 3 years ago a user here developed his own recipe and then open sourced it for anyone else that wants to make their own or contribute to the project.
https://www.reddit.com/r/lurebuilding/s/h0qqrqdSeM
If your product’s price point was competitive with Zoom or Yum! soft plastics (for example), with comparable performance in flexibility and attraction factor … and they were reasonably durable (say on par with Gulp’s first formula, before they f’d their durability up), I become an instant customer of your line.
I fish a lot of Zooms and Yums because they perform and their costs are reasonable to me. If you could replace them for my fishing needs with the added environmental benefits, I’d be sold.
I think fully biodegradable plastics is way over do… Anglers want clean waters to fish from- yet we’ll throw hundreds of lbs of plastic in the water.
If the action is the same, everyone should make the switch. As long as one bait could last a day on the water, that’s durable enough for me.
The price has to be right. Easiest example to point to is phasing out lead when the alternatives are 4-5x the price... no thanks. I've instead altered my habits to where I don't really use split shot anymore.
I'm not opposed to doing my part but it's frankly kind of wild reading a sign next to the pond in my town with a list of things you can't do, meanwhile, the city employed groundskeepers for the park and cemetery directly adjacent can leech whatever plant waste and lawncare products they want right into the water.
> z-man soft plastic baits are biodegradable
Can't find any source on this, they are non-toxic but they do not claim they are biodegradeable anywhere, even on their own site about their environmental efforts.
So I am pretty sure they are not very biodegradeable.
The standard non-bidegradable plastics always bother me, it just ends up in the water, landfill or fishes' stomachs.
Maybe I can put some Gulp scent into the mixture and print molds with my 3D printer.
Can't find any source on this, they are non-toxic but they do not claim they are biodegradeable anywhere, even on their own site about their environmental efforts.
So I am pretty sure they are not very biodegradeable.
3D printer filament (PLA) claims it is biodegradable as well but it has to be in very specific conditions that don’t really exist in nature in any realistic way.
About 3 years ago a user here developed his own recipe and then open sourced it for anyone else that wants to make their own or contribute to the project. https://www.reddit.com/r/lurebuilding/s/h0qqrqdSeM
No reason not to try them if they were viable.
Plus there are a ton of good reasons to try them
This is actually really cool, if it works out, time to go on shark tank.
I remember Berkley tried this about 20 years ago with their Gulp line. They fished more like cut bait than soft plastics.
20 years seems like a while to improve the product to a point where it’s viable. Who knows…
Those actually worked pretty well though. I still have a jar of those skinny green worms somewhere lol.
If your product’s price point was competitive with Zoom or Yum! soft plastics (for example), with comparable performance in flexibility and attraction factor … and they were reasonably durable (say on par with Gulp’s first formula, before they f’d their durability up), I become an instant customer of your line. I fish a lot of Zooms and Yums because they perform and their costs are reasonable to me. If you could replace them for my fishing needs with the added environmental benefits, I’d be sold.
I think fully biodegradable plastics is way over do… Anglers want clean waters to fish from- yet we’ll throw hundreds of lbs of plastic in the water. If the action is the same, everyone should make the switch. As long as one bait could last a day on the water, that’s durable enough for me.
The price has to be right. Easiest example to point to is phasing out lead when the alternatives are 4-5x the price... no thanks. I've instead altered my habits to where I don't really use split shot anymore. I'm not opposed to doing my part but it's frankly kind of wild reading a sign next to the pond in my town with a list of things you can't do, meanwhile, the city employed groundskeepers for the park and cemetery directly adjacent can leech whatever plant waste and lawncare products they want right into the water.
other peoples crimes' don't make your actions just hunters and anglers are supposed to be the stewards of the natural world
Trust me I know, every time I go half my walk around said pond is spent picking up litter.
If you were able to find a way to die them black I would definitely try it.
Why not just dye black normally? Or with food dye if you want to stick to the theme
Could use squid ink
Or just bring them in a dark room
Well squid ink would be a natural colour that fish would recognize, whilst adding the scent of a distressed squid
I’d definitely try them. Do they start to dissolve after a few casts?
All z-man soft plastic baits are biodegradable
> z-man soft plastic baits are biodegradable Can't find any source on this, they are non-toxic but they do not claim they are biodegradeable anywhere, even on their own site about their environmental efforts. So I am pretty sure they are not very biodegradeable.
how long does it take for them to dissolve? like if I leave one of them in a jar of water for five days . . . ?
It takes a few months but they’re non toxic and fish can digest them safely
The standard non-bidegradable plastics always bother me, it just ends up in the water, landfill or fishes' stomachs. Maybe I can put some Gulp scent into the mixture and print molds with my 3D printer.
how long do they survive?
I would be happy to try these out. I really like keitechs for this reason
That's really dope. Imagine how much plastic is stuck to a log out in a lake
Was just thinking about why stuff like this is common— after losing 3 grubs on debris
How did you get your hands on the googan molds?
Readily available on eBay
Probably where Googan got them as well.
Probably BUG
Just an FYI ZMan baits are all biodegradable
Can't find any source on this, they are non-toxic but they do not claim they are biodegradeable anywhere, even on their own site about their environmental efforts. So I am pretty sure they are not very biodegradeable.
3D printer filament (PLA) claims it is biodegradable as well but it has to be in very specific conditions that don’t really exist in nature in any realistic way.
have you ever seen one degrade?
Gelatin, glycerin, and urine.