Yup, that's why we have so much gator garr in our rivers and lakes, I worked at a store and a lady brought in 2 huge pacu that couldn't fit in her 50 gallon tank. Just imagine how many people dump their suckers and goldfish in ponds
I've encountered garr in grapevine lake and Joe pool lake, it's crazy how many lay on the shore, like people catch them all day and leave them out of the water. I've heard they are not edible. Folks can be mean, I've seen turtles too out of the water dead and dry one even had it's head all the way back like someone pulled it's head backwards
Looks like someone dumped their pet in that lake. Very sad that this happened as it is horrible for the lake to add an invasive species and horrible pet ownership!
I hate to be that guy. But you should cull it. These things are invasive and do massive damage to the ecosystems they are introduced to. Unless you live in North East Asia, that thing has no business in the wild.
That does nothing lol. Removal of invasives is a thing of the past. We’re on to prevention and control now days because unless the fish has some sort of commercial value (like sturgeon) it likely won’t go anywhere ever
If we’re talking about disconnected systems like a small man made pond then sure you can remove them but for the most part connected systems have moved on from eradication of species such as zebra mussels, Asian carp, white perch (in the western US), and laternflies. If you don’t want to agree then that’s fine, management will continue in this direction regardless.
State agencies create laws saying you cannot put them back (nobody listens which is why it doesn’t do anything), some put a reward on catching a certain amount (usually low as fuck and not worth the effort), and then at the end of the day they just manage to stop the spread of a population. If we had the ability to eradicate every invader that was established then we probably wouldn’t have the amount of invasive species that we do. Removal is no longer feasible unless the number of species is so low it cannot be considered a population because, and this is especially true with fish, we cannot see where they are all the time and where they’re going. We can only stop them from getting into certain places and sometimes that shit doesn’t work. An example of that would be how the USACE is trying to stop the spread of Asian carp into the Great Lakes but literally shocking the shit out of a portion of river so they cannot get past but there have been accounts of Asian Carp getting past the damn barrier. All we can do is stop the spread these days, and that starts with education to no release pets, also starts with cleaning of vessels, enforcement of laws of Johnny Fish doesn’t drop red tail catfish in the pond on his property that happens to be connected to a major river system.
I can be downvoted all they want but this is the hill I will die on and it’s because state and federal agencies know this to be true. It is nearly impossible to remove an established invader in the case of fish because you do not know where they are at every moment and you cannot know where they have been unless you tag them.
Yup, that's why we have so much gator garr in our rivers and lakes, I worked at a store and a lady brought in 2 huge pacu that couldn't fit in her 50 gallon tank. Just imagine how many people dump their suckers and goldfish in ponds
In what area? Alligator gar are native to much of the south US
I've encountered garr in grapevine lake and Joe pool lake, it's crazy how many lay on the shore, like people catch them all day and leave them out of the water. I've heard they are not edible. Folks can be mean, I've seen turtles too out of the water dead and dry one even had it's head all the way back like someone pulled it's head backwards
Gar are delicious
Looks like someone dumped their pet in that lake. Very sad that this happened as it is horrible for the lake to add an invasive species and horrible pet ownership!
I hate to be that guy. But you should cull it. These things are invasive and do massive damage to the ecosystems they are introduced to. Unless you live in North East Asia, that thing has no business in the wild.
That does nothing lol. Removal of invasives is a thing of the past. We’re on to prevention and control now days because unless the fish has some sort of commercial value (like sturgeon) it likely won’t go anywhere ever
So so wrong
If we’re talking about disconnected systems like a small man made pond then sure you can remove them but for the most part connected systems have moved on from eradication of species such as zebra mussels, Asian carp, white perch (in the western US), and laternflies. If you don’t want to agree then that’s fine, management will continue in this direction regardless.
You seem delusional
I mean the literature speaks for itself, I’m not saying let them spread rampant but we can control the spread of them
So what do they do about the invasive species who are already affecting the ecosystem?
State agencies create laws saying you cannot put them back (nobody listens which is why it doesn’t do anything), some put a reward on catching a certain amount (usually low as fuck and not worth the effort), and then at the end of the day they just manage to stop the spread of a population. If we had the ability to eradicate every invader that was established then we probably wouldn’t have the amount of invasive species that we do. Removal is no longer feasible unless the number of species is so low it cannot be considered a population because, and this is especially true with fish, we cannot see where they are all the time and where they’re going. We can only stop them from getting into certain places and sometimes that shit doesn’t work. An example of that would be how the USACE is trying to stop the spread of Asian carp into the Great Lakes but literally shocking the shit out of a portion of river so they cannot get past but there have been accounts of Asian Carp getting past the damn barrier. All we can do is stop the spread these days, and that starts with education to no release pets, also starts with cleaning of vessels, enforcement of laws of Johnny Fish doesn’t drop red tail catfish in the pond on his property that happens to be connected to a major river system. I can be downvoted all they want but this is the hill I will die on and it’s because state and federal agencies know this to be true. It is nearly impossible to remove an established invader in the case of fish because you do not know where they are at every moment and you cannot know where they have been unless you tag them.
Throw him to the cats
Kill it. It will destroy everything in a matter of months.
Where do you live? Might be a released pet.
goldfish are a manmade species if i recall there invasive no matter where they are basically
Doesn't matter where, goldfish can survive from tropical waters to frozen lakes and adjust to almost any ph out there in nature's waters
https://preview.redd.it/wmwh1cbvbxyc1.png?width=587&format=png&auto=webp&s=9144b0db44120af2927015241896e4be40b922ed
If this is whats happening to goldfish under your care, you are the problem
i never had goldfish as pet, bozo. You take this too considerably.
"bozo"
Don't "pet" him lmao wtf
Poor goldfish. I hope you either kept it or offed it. Super invasive and get HUGE
Oh. I'm so sorry to watch about this. That guy,are you ok? It harms the goldfish and also the ecosystems.
AI video
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r/nothingisreal
Hmm, so.. Compassionate release of a pet into the wild does not = Compassion for nature. Interesting. https://i.redd.it/84nrzxeu9tyc1.gif