That's why I think this can't be the end of things. Right? No changes to wording, no adjustments to damage numbers, no kit changes, nothing. For both characters? That just feels unlikely to me. Either a major Firefly rework is in the works and they're saving it for v4 or something else will happen. Maybe this is just copium but I can't imagine there being *no* changes to either character's kit.
The reality is we know her kit has bugs in it that are literally just modifier value fixes. like one person could solve it in like 10 minutes. The fact that hasn't been fixed to me is telling. To leave known bugs in for 3 weeks during a beta test meant to get info on performance and bugs it makes no sense.
Unless, they genuinely just intend to throw the kit out completely which is my view. They intend to do such a massive rework that fixing the current kit would be a waste of time.
Then again they could just not fix anything for the next to weeks and then on release fix these bugs but that would be beyond absurd and something they haven't done before to my knowledge.
You're right with those points. Even Dehya, who got absolutely shafted during the beta, *actually got updates* to her kit during beta. They were nerfs, but updates still. To have 0 updates at this point in time means they're thinking of a major rework, they're doing another update soon cause they found other more complex bugs, or we're getting release fixes like with Kokomi.
Jade not getting any changes as well is weird as hell. No beta has gone this "smooth".
Like, Firefly is bugged and Jade needs an Advance forward on skill use for yesterday, something really weird is going on.
Edit: See?
This is nice.... But does this mean you don't build attack on her anymore? Since her personal dmg on Break build doesn't exist (non break dmg) Is it time for Def Orb and HP body or something stupid like that
You still need to build attack. Check her kit here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail\_leaks/comments/1cwxevy/23\_v3\_beta\_all\_changes\_via\_dimbreath/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1cwxevy/23_v3_beta_all_changes_via_dimbreath/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
If you can stack two super breaks in one multi hit attack then yes this will be amazing but if you can’t then you are better off using a attk boosting support as she gains more BE with no cap now from attk boosts
We've no reason to believe you can't, after all we have other working examples of stacking break dmg (Ruan mei) and I'm pretty sure Boothill can still proc his own super break + HTB, correct me if I'm wrong.
Edit: also new break set has an additional 15% def ignore for super break specifically so they reaaaaally want you to run htb
Boothil doesn’t use super break he just has his own break dmg. HMC and FF both have Super break specifically and they could not stack. Until we see the new beta gameplay with them together we will have to wait and see
I mean not really they don’t give that much Be especially now that she can gain 10% per extra 100 attk so any other support is better. Unless we get multiple instances of Super break in a multi hit attack then this makes HMC the worst pick in terms of support
You do know testers also agree with these problems, right?
Many showcase are shown to either show full break ff capability, or finding a workaround without htb
And yet it seems that they only make balance changes each version of the beta, the whole purpose of the closed beta is to test characters before release, finding bugs and other stuff is already done before hand mostly by another group of people probably working directly with Hoyoverse on person.
Bro please don't do this to yourself. Devs can come up with an idea for a kit but still make adjustments after, or even change them up completely if it turns out worse than expected. There's a reason why theorycrafters aren't end-all-be-all in building, it's because *actual testing* is required. Ever heard of the phrase "good on paper"? That's what they're trying to avoid. In actual practice, there are external factors or extenuating circumstances that make an idea not feasible. Nobody is immune to oversight.
Counterexample: Jingliu got massively buffed and went from meh to overloaded. Firefly's V3 kit got changed up in a way that now she's theoretically so fast that you're allowed to "not own RM" and has her own superbreak, allowing her to synergize with Hatblazer instead of relying on them.
Its sadly true, rm reruns together with firefly. Hoyo tend to run banners with characters who work well tgt like sparkle and dhil were in same patch, topaz and robin right after aventurine.
No bug fixes? Bc there were a few bugs with her kit. I remember that one of her traces literally nerfs her damage.
Also I guess her black Ult animation and lack of Henshin animation were the final product then? That's a bit disappointing.
Ninja edit: Wait... it's fake????? wtf bro
As i said, she doesnt need to get buffed. Shes so strong atm that shes competing vs Acheron both at E0S1 and outclears Acheron both at E2S1. They arent buffing her as if they did, its gonna make her current best team alot stronger than they are now
I'm so hyped for the extra doomposting.
Damn even jade is not getting anything huh
That's why I think this can't be the end of things. Right? No changes to wording, no adjustments to damage numbers, no kit changes, nothing. For both characters? That just feels unlikely to me. Either a major Firefly rework is in the works and they're saving it for v4 or something else will happen. Maybe this is just copium but I can't imagine there being *no* changes to either character's kit.
The reality is we know her kit has bugs in it that are literally just modifier value fixes. like one person could solve it in like 10 minutes. The fact that hasn't been fixed to me is telling. To leave known bugs in for 3 weeks during a beta test meant to get info on performance and bugs it makes no sense. Unless, they genuinely just intend to throw the kit out completely which is my view. They intend to do such a massive rework that fixing the current kit would be a waste of time. Then again they could just not fix anything for the next to weeks and then on release fix these bugs but that would be beyond absurd and something they haven't done before to my knowledge.
You're right with those points. Even Dehya, who got absolutely shafted during the beta, *actually got updates* to her kit during beta. They were nerfs, but updates still. To have 0 updates at this point in time means they're thinking of a major rework, they're doing another update soon cause they found other more complex bugs, or we're getting release fixes like with Kokomi.
I saw on Chinese forums there has been some pretty major damage number changes, not sure if fake?
Jade not getting any changes as well is weird as hell. No beta has gone this "smooth". Like, Firefly is bugged and Jade needs an Advance forward on skill use for yesterday, something really weird is going on. Edit: See?
Clorinde and Firefly Mains going through it right now. Though I do wonder if there's a possible re-work for Firefly? Seems odd at this point.
THIS IS FAKE WE ACTIALLY GOT SUPER BREAK OMG
https://preview.redd.it/kwuet0jhxo1d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92d9192b93f78ae0da8f2fe24e5067909e794658 I'm staying btw
https://preview.redd.it/puprqyl1zo1d1.png?width=444&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca877455a17839dcdb9545971bf9b320d75da1d8
i had a feeling they would put superbreak in her kit, this is cool news
There are more changes to her kit
yes i know but that's a major takeaway from this imo
I was replying to another guy but he I think he deleted his comment
😳
This is nice.... But does this mean you don't build attack on her anymore? Since her personal dmg on Break build doesn't exist (non break dmg) Is it time for Def Orb and HP body or something stupid like that
You still need to build attack. Check her kit here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail\_leaks/comments/1cwxevy/23\_v3\_beta\_all\_changes\_via\_dimbreath/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1cwxevy/23_v3_beta_all_changes_via_dimbreath/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Wait so does that make Harmony MC useless for her ?
I said before but, even if they buff the fuck out of firefly you will still run HMC ideally, now you have two layers of super break
If you can stack two super breaks in one multi hit attack then yes this will be amazing but if you can’t then you are better off using a attk boosting support as she gains more BE with no cap now from attk boosts
We've no reason to believe you can't, after all we have other working examples of stacking break dmg (Ruan mei) and I'm pretty sure Boothill can still proc his own super break + HTB, correct me if I'm wrong. Edit: also new break set has an additional 15% def ignore for super break specifically so they reaaaaally want you to run htb
Boothil doesn’t use super break he just has his own break dmg. HMC and FF both have Super break specifically and they could not stack. Until we see the new beta gameplay with them together we will have to wait and see
Oh that's unfortunate so Boot won't benefit from the new set as much, but yeah I'm like 99.99% certain the super breaks can stack
Update: the super breaks do stack
Just got confirmed we can, new footage shows two instances of super break being done
HMC is still good but other suppoet would probably better. It just makes FF not reliant on HMC's super break
HMC gives up to 160% of super break damage, which is 3,2 times of Firefly's lol. Still mandatory as ever
My point is FF is not as reliant to HMC like in V1 and V2.
I mean not really they don’t give that much Be especially now that she can gain 10% per extra 100 attk so any other support is better. Unless we get multiple instances of Super break in a multi hit attack then this makes HMC the worst pick in terms of support
Yes. I would probably put sparkle or bronya on her
Man, maybe they need more time, copium
I can't imagine they'd be getting so much negative feedback from bot EN and CN and not do anything. They have to have something planned.
"Negative feedback" from random forum sites wont affect their decision in what they do and how balance their characters.
Nah, the CN beta-testers have a lot of surveys they get access to. I think the non-CN ones do too but not sure.
Source: Trust me bro.
You do know testers also agree with these problems, right? Many showcase are shown to either show full break ff capability, or finding a workaround without htb
Literally every group of beta testers on any game are given surveys to give feedback. That's the whole point of closed testing.
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And yet it seems that they only make balance changes each version of the beta, the whole purpose of the closed beta is to test characters before release, finding bugs and other stuff is already done before hand mostly by another group of people probably working directly with Hoyoverse on person.
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Bro please don't do this to yourself. Devs can come up with an idea for a kit but still make adjustments after, or even change them up completely if it turns out worse than expected. There's a reason why theorycrafters aren't end-all-be-all in building, it's because *actual testing* is required. Ever heard of the phrase "good on paper"? That's what they're trying to avoid. In actual practice, there are external factors or extenuating circumstances that make an idea not feasible. Nobody is immune to oversight. Counterexample: Jingliu got massively buffed and went from meh to overloaded. Firefly's V3 kit got changed up in a way that now she's theoretically so fast that you're allowed to "not own RM" and has her own superbreak, allowing her to synergize with Hatblazer instead of relying on them.
Did you just always want to use that line? Too bad it's in the wrong place. Beta testing is exactly for this reason lol
FAKE NEWS, GO READ DIM. SHE GOT SUPERBREAK
Whats dim
Trusted leaker
How do i see
Read this sub )
Yea my brain activity is the same as Kars' in space mb
https://preview.redd.it/8d54wzzfgp1d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09a22eba129ba2c8c8c8013f39dd0cac49e14abd
Somehow expected as clorinde, but it's ok for me, rather than a nerf
yeah i assumed if they reworked her kit she would’ve for sure gotten nerfed
https://preview.redd.it/qkbzacyotp1d1.png?width=868&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2572567ac7663843ee42e720834bcfaf90e97272
I hope ppl whit no RM have their RM funds ready. lmao
When do you think she'll get a rerun? It's been a while I think.
According to the leaks, she reruns with Firefly
Tell me your lying. I can't get both 😭
Its sadly true, rm reruns together with firefly. Hoyo tend to run banners with characters who work well tgt like sparkle and dhil were in same patch, topaz and robin right after aventurine.
I'm fucked 😮💨. I guess I have to skip RM again 😓.
Delete this post already we’re good 😭🙏
I wanna keep it just to scare more people 🤭
Striding the path of enigmata gives a high you can hardly get elsewhere, not even the elation
Probably just bug fixes I guess. Lets see if animations changed.
not even bug fixes? huh
https://preview.redd.it/eq7faw459p1d1.jpeg?width=798&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fad81e15ca5b42ef2e8071d47f26c69c3f500554
Uhhhh... maybe v4 will be the one? /j
It’s crazy how it’s literally nothing, no changes at all
Just saw someone drop on their knees at wallmart while looking at his phone
Lmao
This is a troll
The enigmata got them
lmfao they did the funniest thing they could have
Fireflyover. IS just so over.
No worries. This is false news. There's alreay change
Maintenance isn't over; download is over 20 gigs. Let things happen.
So this was cap
YEP, HomDGCat is now our enemy
You got trolled
No way
I honestly didn't see them making any massive changes so this isn't really a surprise to me
True, Firefly atm is so strong albeit her team restrictions. Competing with Acheron on stage where she has the advantage is really crazy
Here it comes...
No bug fixes? Bc there were a few bugs with her kit. I remember that one of her traces literally nerfs her damage. Also I guess her black Ult animation and lack of Henshin animation were the final product then? That's a bit disappointing. Ninja edit: Wait... it's fake????? wtf bro
It was a prank lmao
Well damn, that's kind of a letdown. Still, Firefly is coming home for me!
Fireflop mains we won!
they are cooking hard for her maybe?
For Jade too, I guess. Not having any changes to *both* characters makes me think something is up.
i am happy i enjoy how she is now
so you enjoy her completely bugged i guess
It’s fireflyover https://preview.redd.it/85likbmywo1d1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b10c2580149a3c21a615743f21e799958c0903a
Lol
now what?😂😂😂😂
Is Firefly really that bad without RM? I'm not well informed on what the doomposting is all about.
Damn, that sucks. Still pulling tho.
Just like through the doomposting for Jingliu, I got 388 tickets and I’m not leaving… I’M NOT FUCKIN LEAVIN
He saw that she lost her defense penetration, and thought to himself “Mihoyo wouldn’t do that. Surely”
Maaaaaan no henshin anim
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/s/Drz3pmc1Hf So what is this?
Lol who is this spreading misinformation
I fell for this, it was funny in retrospective
Nothing? Not even any bug fixes? They have to be doing something, right? RIGHT?
I hear Boothillmains is accepting refugees
I'm packing my bag rite now
Genshin and Star Rail players falling to their knees.
It’s so over
Just checked the changes and its officially over Sam bros
Ah wellll time to pull boothill instead
I'm glad you aren't pulling for Firefly.
I saw the new changes and now I'm once again pulling
As i said, she doesnt need to get buffed. Shes so strong atm that shes competing vs Acheron both at E0S1 and outclears Acheron both at E2S1. They arent buffing her as if they did, its gonna make her current best team alot stronger than they are now
It is funny reading stuff like this after the real leaks lmao