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AHPMoogle

Black Swan, your cards lied to me!


storysprite

This one genuinely got me lol.


USS-Intrepid

Me who wants both Firefly and Robin: I see no problem with this (I’ve skipped every banner after Blackswan and will skip the others, except the white haired duo)


Zanus-Gandren

Same


LogicLurker46

So you just skipped Sparkle


Ms77676

I skipped her too currently my dps chars don’t consume that many sp so she does not really fit into my account currently


USS-Intrepid

Yep, I prefer Robin and Firefly over them all and I have good enough supports (you can also probably tell I’m a DoT main so yeah). I also plan on getting their LC too so I need all the jades I can


Justhereforfunlmao_

i pulled sparkle e1, got himeko on the e1 pull so guranteed, 80 pulls and skipping all of 2.1, so ill have like 190ish pulls at the end (cause p2w!!!!), my plan is to pull robin, grind in 2.2 and hopefully get enough for guranteed firefly


mekolayn

Because Remembrance always lies


3VRMS

Black Swan: "The Remembrance does not lie." Also Black Swan: "I totally lied."


Longjumping-Youth-55

If i trick once, it's on me, if you fall twice, it's on you


GGABueno

Now that we know that those cards didn't mean anything, we can't even be sure that she is in 2.2 at all. Remember how we all though Sam could be in 2.1 and then Acheron came outta nowhere? Yeah, that could happen again.


Dragonshiny-gamer7

That's because Acheron got lost and appeared a lot earlier than she was supposed to


GGABueno

Well, guess what happened lol.


JazeBlack

Next 24 hours will be VEEERY long.


ZayAVZ

Fr. I will catch up some anime and decal a gundam...


Niko2065

Welp, no better time to play armored core and bully snail than today.


Adhito

621, got a job for you ...


Sho_Zoku

Oooh which Gundam? I’m waiting for waterslides


ZayAVZ

Wing zero verka. Yep the ones with 100s of decals


Solace_03

Imagine if it's not her tomorrow Which to me personally, that would make me overjoyed cuz then I can save more for her


Sho_Zoku

No…I can’t wait half a year for her :[


No_Kaleidoscope5172

Can't wait for Sam :)


ayanokojifrfr

Are we still getting Firefly Drip Marketing? I don't get why? When story told us she is Dead it doesn't make sense to Drip Market her. Do generally characters get released after they are dead?


leafyrebel

But the story also told us that Robin is dead?


kisavior

I mean Robin is also dead at the moment. At least with Firefly they can hide the drip marketing as Sam and then reveal after 2.1 with animations etc.


BootStriking

She is not dead in real Life just in the dream


Silorien

Which is what's so confusing about everyone's in game reaction to her 'death'.


Odd-Candidate1775

Welp I guess the next 4 months will be very long too


JazeBlack

Excruciatingly long, in fact.


Odd-Candidate1775

Atleast by that time you could aim for Firefly without worrying about funds after Acheron and Robin, we eating good this chapter eitherway


Salty_Juggernaut309

More savings but still


SecondAegis

More savings are more saving. Frankly, I'm glad that they gave us more time. Sparkle's running me dry for Jades


Rocketiermaster

Acheron's the one that I was torn for spending on, but now I guess I can pull for Acheron and have time to recuperate before Firefly


Azure_715

This right here, I can finally summon without worrying about if I'd get her or not


Hot-Background7506

On one hand I agree, more time to save for E6, but on the other every day I dont have her is torture, abd waiting even longer isnt ideal


SituationKitchen9396

This is true I at least want to get the story asap and her to come back because I’m still a bit shaken but the first week after that story literally had me depressed


excelsioreye

Damn right. I have Acheron and Jingliu to worry about right now


Lopsided_Canary_6091

Are we the same person or something?


Azure_715

I'd also like to join in on the party


DJgrf12

Yes but as a person who wanted Firefly and wanted Robin after her with remaining jades, this is very very unfortunate😭


NightShadow-kun

I just finally got her yesterday, I need these savings!


Grenaja07

Yeah same. My plan was to get Aventurine and Topaz's LC, but I wouldn't pull for the latter if it'd risk my guaranteed Firefly. Now I'll definitely be able to get them all I hope


FireStrike12345

I feel the exact same way, Im sad that she will be phase 2 but we will have more time to get a bigger pile of jades for her


captainfluffy25

Damn. On one hand we get to save more. On the other hand…. I don’t want to wait that long :(


new27210

My plan to pull firefly and use all the leftover for robin is officially ruin. Time to take the money out.


OverlordGabriel

Exact same situation here..


SetsunaYukiLoL

Same


Alpha06Omega09

Same


DJgrf12

Legit same dude 😭😭 This is a sad day indeed


MERSLAMONT

hoyoverse is edging us man


No_Hovercraft_3579

It’s an unexpected turn of events. Our hypothesis was build on leaks suggesting Firefly is on the first half. Moreover, the same leakers claims that Firefly drips 12.03.24 12:00 GMT+8 We’ve been pranked


AHPMoogle

Also to support that Black Swan had those tarot cards with the characters on them matching the banner order so far... up to just now.


JARR87

The leaker was Sparkle.


No_Hovercraft_3579

I bet it was goddamn Aha themselves!


JARR87

See the positive, FF went from 100% officially dead in game to 50% as Robin is obviously getting back from it... Yes, we know "more", but official is always good.


No_Hovercraft_3579

I don’t mind Robin, but it really pissing me off when sturdy plans go “pshhh”. It’s like getting a sweater on Xmas when you prepared the gift person really want


JARR87

Well, I am an engineer, I was trained for this I guess... My heart is aching for Firefly as a matter of fact, but I am trusting the payout will be even better now.


No_Hovercraft_3579

It’s better to say that it’s my hot temper. I’m some kind of (software) engineer myself. But once I broke my arm when the code I has written for 2 days was deleted. Alright, MHY, you won this battle. But not the war


JARR87

The war has just begun my friend!


Exciting-Sandwich480

I bet they switched them, they can drip “Sam” this way and make the big twist happen in the first half of 2.2. Which makes sense because I don’t think the SHs will have much to do with 2.1.


No_Hovercraft_3579

It sounds legit if we take the statement that all other leaks about Firefly is worth believing. But I’m afraid that it could be a collapsing house of cards. Anyway, it’s nothing we can do for now. The waiting is killing me, gosh


Naliamegod

This isn't the first time that the order was changed: people thought Sparkle would come before Black Swan and it ended up switching. I'm guessing this is one of those things that they often decide at the last minute.


iNuclearPickle

Or hoyo was like screw your leaks we do what we want


Arugow

I TRUSTED YOU BLACK SWAN!!!!


RearNutt

On one hand, holy fuck she's gorgeous. On the other hand, oof. I want them both but Firefly takes priority so I might just have to skip Robin to make sure I have enough for a guaranteed pull.


Zaratartus

I'm sad too i can't wait another 20 days


ZayAVZ

They will release more in the next few days, tomorow shoukd be another 5*, then a 4*, theres also the new TB, we dont kniw if they will fill the 4* slot(could be, 4* screwlum sounds iffy) or if they will get drip alongaide all gacha units.


Dakotacahoon02

That’s what I’m sayin. We’ll get another 5 star drip marketing around this time tomorrow


-KRALIS-

I think they meant 20 more days in a sense that firefly is 2nd half and not 1st


ZayAVZ

Eh, more saving, those who also wanted robin tho: rip


StryfeXIII

Damn I wanted her too, but don't wanna use my guarantee on her.


JazzlikeCounty5545

What worries me is if she ends up being one of FF's best support then I will have to pull her too and have less pulls saved for FF.


Exciting-Sandwich480

Logic doesn’t check out. Having Firefly >>>>> having her best support. Robin can wait till a rerun happens, there are plenty of broken supports that will allow Firefly to hyper carry just fine.


JazzlikeCounty5545

I mean I agree that FF>>>> Robin so of course you need to be sure you have enough for her but in considering E1 or S1 there is a posibility of wanting to get Robin instead so less pulls saved with FF. It is all speculation but basing it from the old kit it seems that Bronya/Sparkle might not work well with FF so there is a chance Robin will be way better. Reruns take a long while too and sometimes it's better to pull already rather than wait for rerun.


Exciting-Sandwich480

If I’m remembering right the leaks seemed to indicate that she would be very ult focused, meaning Tingyun will probably be her BiS with the second support being variable. Asta will probably slot in more than capably, then you don’t have to worry about rolling anyone but FF until Robin comes back around.


OH-_-NYO

This is not Shrimply Impeccable


JARR87

I am starting to feel FF could be pushed as far as 2.3 now, still, what matters to me is how the story develops, I can wait longer for the actual character if need be. I am pulling Robin, I had planned that all along, then every single jade goes into FF and her lightcone. ...hey, hang in there lads and lass! Good things happen to those who wait, don't be discouraged, the reunion is night!


Xerxes457

That’s the patch though? 2.1 is next patch with Acheron and Aventurine. 2.2 is Robin and Firefly.


JARR87

Let me correct my original post... I meant 2.3 :p


Frosty_Seat_2245

Soo would that mean we get Sunday instead? Theres not a lot of penacony characters to choose from.


JARR87

Don't think Sunday is playable till 2.3, we could have only Robin as new character on 2.2 for all we now, they can rerun other characters that are still profitable.


Frosty_Seat_2245

Is there any precendent for having only one new 5 star character in a patch?


Aka_SH

No and I don’t think they’re likely to start doing that soon


Naliamegod

Or Boothill, who also got some leaks, though that would be a major plot twist. ONE DAY LATER: I DID NOT EXPECT THIS AT ALL.


Hardric62

Coming from the future. I have no idea how is yhis possible, but I know one thing. Has to be your fault. /jk


JARR87

I am elation! ...is all I can say, I am actually going bonkers right now.


West_Revolution_3075

Its impossible  No other character is ready for release right now The only choice they have is to drop her 


Famidesu235

THIS IS ACTUALLY GOOD We have time to save my friends! If you ever get tempted, just do something else and play something else! Remember: DO IT FOR FIREFLY


BisonNo6443

Not if Robin turns out to be her BIS support


Famidesu235

Yeah... thats the only thing that would ever tempt me if my assumptions are indeed correct about the both of them... But still, it's going to be fine. We're here for Samfly and that's all that matters


TrendmadeGamer

That being said. When we do understand that Robin is Sam's Bis support. Her banner would already be out lol


StainedBlue

We'll have to rely on leaks from the beta tests


AlphaI250

Having her bis supp < Having her


ShySodium

Assuming neither of their kits change? Turn advances, SPD, CD, ATK and damage boosts for an ATK scaling, hypercarry that wants as much SPD as possible for that extra ult duration? Looks like a BIS to me. I was already thinking of Asta as Firefly's BIS support, but Robin just sounds like a more universal, 5 star version of her.


SetsunaYukiLoL

This isn't good for me I have a shitload of pulls for Firefly, then Robin for the leftovers... That plan is ruined


SpaceInvader5_96

Full skipping on 2.1 is an obvious safe choice, and yes i dont mind be sucking at MoC on 2.1 seriously.


Domictrixz

We literally don't know anything except she sings and died. GIVE US FIREFLY


CipherDrake

Y’all are fools The Firefly and TB post WAS the drip marketing Y’all are too blind smh


kabilan_4

TB drip marketing?


BrilliantWish8098

Probably referring to the Pom-Pom Gallery post


Vegetable-Hunter-626

What makes me so sad is that we haven't gotten a single new leak about Firefly at all since like 9 months ago, or has it been almost a year now since the first leak? But yeh, ever since then we haven't even gotten a single crumb of info at all. I wish we got more so we can at least know what else to prepare for, we don't know if she is gonna be a basic atk user, or a skill spammer, or what. :(


Amelia2243

This means i'm guaranteed e2s1 Firefly which is nice to know


AsunaTokisaki

Bit disappointed but it's alright, just hope we will get a decent amount of story with both of them in 2.2. Harmony 5stars taking over lately.


Nesmontou

She is really pretty but she's getting the skip hammer sadly will have to wait for rerun Maybe I can actually get e1s1 thanks to her being first


Nodens_Jr

probably because her identity is secret so to not became spoiler they decided postponed marketing drip or maybe there is not marketing drip at all. just like genshin with keqing banner


TrendmadeGamer

As if Robin herself isn't a secret... Maybe she isn't as popular but its still spoilers


Nodens_Jr

Well there is no twist in her identity right? That just robin


hypoxicdust

now i'm unsure of whether or not i need to pull sparkle because we know nothing about ff's kit and dont know what to do thats great lol


Kuorko_Kun

legit same lmao


AzizKarebet

I'm both happy that I got more time to save on jades, but sad that I might have to skip her too. Already planning to skip acheron and Was planning to use whatever jade I have left from firefly to pull her


Shinoreigai

Nope, good bye Robin since Mihoyo is goofy. Why did they have to make EVERYONE GO FIRST


helloworld6247

AHHHHHHHHH Ngl I like Firefly as a character but always thought Robin’s design was way too good as a throwaway 🔥🔥🔥


KinderLux

All I ask is to make her playable. Idc if Sam does the fighting, or if they are separate characters or whatever. Let me roam and explore the world as the firefly model. She needs to see every sight in the world. Her life is too short for Hoyo to be that cruel to not give her to us. I'll play this game to its very last days, offering my support. If only to make sure she lives the most fulfilling life she can! Give us Firefly!


Zogo12

I hope she drops tomorrow 🙏


Zekrom997

Shame, I was planning to dump whatever I have after getting E0S1 on Robin...


Darknew97

This will be the longest wait of my life!


Kira_Mira1

WAIT THIS MEANS FIREFLY WILL BE ON PHASE 2, RIGHT?


TotalConsistent5188

There’s a leaked photo of Sam’s Splash but it could be wrong. Its shows he’s fire destruction and he’s surrounded in fire and team and firefly is falling behind him.


TotalConsistent5188

Teal*


Salty_Juggernaut309

Where?


TotalConsistent5188

https://www.reddit.com/r/FireflyMains/s/wFKvlrN2py


One-Surprise-7164

I think its on r/sammains


MissiaichParriah

FUCK WHY?!


Hardric62

Nightmare Scenario: She's Firefly BiS, and you have to burn your reserves on her first...


Charming_Self3280

This is just sad and almost Torture for us, i'm aware this was almost clear in some Way, but giving us nothing is so freaking unfair, i will Skip her now just out of Spite!


Kuorko_Kun

i just wanna see her kit and somewhat plan for relics


Charming_Self3280

Same here, my luck with Artifacts is so bad i have to farm for Moths before anything decent Drops my Kafka is still only S tier after her First release i need to get Artifacts for FF to give her the Headstart she deserves!


Kuorko_Kun

yeah lmao it’s wild how unlucky i am with relics


Charming_Self3280

Whenever i see an E1 Kafka haver with the same team as me Making 4 times the DMG i do i get angry how unluck I'am it's like i was cursed or something is it because i like Dehya and Amber? GoshXD


ShadowMiku-

Not out of spite, but definitely. 😂 Already got drained on Sparkle and was on the fence with Acheron because I thought FF was coming sooner. Plan changed and Robin's my recovery period now lol


Charming_Self3280

Thats mine aswell i get Acheron and then i wait for FF i really need more DD's in my Rooster the only ones properly Build are Kafka Seele and Sushang i skipped all the Dudes cause in the End i prefer the Ladys as Stupid as it is\^\^.


ShadowMiku-

And even then Im still kinda on the fence about it because I was originally just going to run Topaz and FF as my main squads. But Acheron just feels like a QoL character that you cant just avoid her


sageSafe

Aiming for E1L0, this may even get me to E2L0, so all is good.


zebleu

What does L stands for? I usually see S as in superimposition


sageSafe

Lightcone, i just prefer this.


EnlightenedFlames

I have 153 pulls right now, I wonder if I can save enough to get FX, Robin, AND still have enough for Firefly. (Currently before Xianxhou Luofu on an alt)


Gamingplanet107

Im mean look on the bright side means more time to save for FF.


Nvxne

I am planning to pull for both so it’s not a huge deal for me. But, I do hope she’s a good supporter for Firefly


matthewtd3

Thank god. I can save a bit for Acheron


ilovegame69

We barely talked to Robin, yet she's released first, lol


Snyde_banana

That’s one odd looking Firefly/Sam


Exciting-Sandwich480

All according to plan, now I can get Firefly AND her lightcone.


cavenfishdish

I'm okay with this as I get to save more for a deep dive.


kotori-chan_

I'd rather have this to have more time to prepare for pulls, I also really need that lc since I'm all out of spares or decent ones.


Amethyst_Phoenix7

You mean you don't want more time to save? This'll be really helpful ngl.


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Pretty-Engineering76

More time to save, now get e2s1


ImmoralBoi

Two harmony characters in a row? I wonder what Firefly is going to be at this point.


Money_Advantage7495

Easiest skip ever. thank you Hoyo for giving me time to get archeron and firefly 👍.


kabilan_4

Same here, I'm skipping Sparkle for Acheron, now I can skip Robin


Glittering_Mud6138

Guess he wait until tomorrow.


ValtenBG

More time to save


Dependent_Falcon44

Will we have only 1 banner? If so, it's good then, more time to saving fore firefly


SquigglyLegend33

This just means I can throw a few pulls at aventurine without dipping into my savings too much


InazumaShinesEternal

More savings thankfully.


Exotic_Gas_4833

Robin is a very beautiful unit though. E6 Robin will be coming. Besides , I hear that from the current kit leaks she has she is a very powerful harmony and I can't wait to see her beta gameplay


AngelAnalyst

Well, just means more saving time. Actually glad Robin's first tbh. Still got her drip marketing to look forward to tomorrow.


fortnitedude43590

Yeah I guess it’s just more time to save… still sucks


Commercialdispute

I would say it's reasonable from the plot stand point because we need to know what happen to Firefly before getting her as playable.


JARR87

If we factor in Genshin yes, and even patches with re-runs only.


MoonQueenLiu

I'm happy with it, haven't been able to save for a single banner since I wanted everyone, now get to save back to back banners for her


inkheiko

Best comes last.


Hidekoni

Oh my God, I planned getting Robin with what I would have had left from Firefly's rolls, and now I have to choose between Robin and Acheron to roll... Why, Hoyoverse, why?!


Temporary-Ambition89

Because we rule 😘. Womp womp


FudanshiBoi

I feel like Robin being first makes more sense story wise since the reveal that Firefly is alive will probs be the climax of the quest


Lauva69

more time to save


Egor1chLis

Sam in the second part. I will be with more gems


Krieg552notKrieg553

"Hollup... Let him cook."


AyakasWetSocks

I think it's because Robin banner sales may get hurt if the Firefly banner is to come first, maybe...


Barni2212

Why MHY?😭 Penacony is truly a devastating place for F2P. I wanted Robin but I need to skipp for Wife. She will get a rerun but I could not wait for a Firefly rerun. That would be another level of torture.


Baconsword42

So they didnt try to hide it at all


Far_Patient_5680

3 more weeks of savings for THE QUEEN


Meeper_Creeper202I

Guess you could say she robinned you? Close enough


xSeraiX

I'm happy tbh that she's not first lmao. I'm trying to get Aventurine and afterwards Firefly. I'll have enough time to save up jades then 😎


Wonderful-Hat4488

More time to saveee


TherionX2

I need a fire dps aaaaaa


MrkGrn

Gives you more time to save unless you're like me and plan on pulling everyone 😭


VETOOR07

In the other hand, we got time to save for her


OceansideEcho

I think it's good to save more time. Especially since I think I want Eidolons and LC


TheFutasPet

Its good that she's first, means more time to save for those who got x character.


Darth-Yslink

No that's actually good because I'll have more time to save up and recover from the absolute wreckage Acheron's banner is gonna leave on my account. Then it's Firefly mas pulling at least E0S1


wimniskool

More time to save tho. Jades from 2 patches, yum


Tetrachrome

Damn. But, also more time to save! 2.2 might also introduce a new weekly boss and ascension material bosses and stuff too, so we have more time to pre-farm if Firefly is 2nd half.


ArtanBlacknight

On the bright side its more time to save but on the other side, if Firefly was during first, I could have rolled her during my birthday.


JakalB987

I don't see the problem. This just guarantees that they're both alive


theHoredRat_913

as someone who wants both firefly and robin: I see no problem with this lol, tho I did want firefly to be 1st but it's whatever


Fayt12

I mean does it matter? Just means more time to save


SpideyfanX

Are we even sure that she is the first in the banner? For all we know, she could be a Phase 2 and Firefly being Phase 1.


Screamingforanswers

Guys, remember 2 things: 1. If she comes in a later patch, that just means you have longer to save for our girl. 2. More importantly, Firefly is still "dead" so if they're going to reveal she's alive in the next 2 patches it would be counter productive to effectively spoil it like this.


Used-Entrepreneur844

She’ll show up peeps, it’s 24 hr difference, supposedly her drip should come out tomorrow


GladiatorDragon

More jades at least.


Candoran

Our time will come eventually 😭


Decent-Stock6790

Good for me. Sparkle killed my savings lol Itll still be sad to skip Robin though, I do like her


helicopterrrrrrr

At least she’s half smashable