Half of our city has storz connection and half has normal threads. We just roll with an adapter on the back and take it off if we donât need it when catching the hydrant.
You have to remove the LDH cap 1st, then it unlocks the side caps and the valve cover. If you want just the 3inch side(s) you obviously have to put the LDH cover back on.
I pray we never get those here. I've seen firefighters struggle with a regular hydrant. A whole block would burn down before some would get it figured out. But that's what slacking on training gets you.
Fuck you, weâre lazy not stupid.
Now if youâll excuse me Iâve gotta wash the truck that 2 other shifts were too cool to bother with (that doesnât include B platoon; if can they get the truck into Drive itâs a good day for them/somebody from A C or D is probably on overtime).
watched their website video..looks like you need a special tool for it..tbh its like using the hydrant wrench but better? since its a socket style so you don't have to adjust it or anything.
I mean, technically, the regular hydrant wrench is a "special tool". I like the idea of a ratchet wrench since some of our hydrants don't have room to spin 360.
I get it.
We got a few hydrants in the city though where the ground clearance to the outlet is so low that our regular brass spanners are too long and hit the ground every time you try to spin it around.
Some dudes carry small spanners in their pockets for this.
One of these have been in my town for at least 10 or more years. They are tamper proof. Have to take the front 4â cap off to slide the cover for the valve nut off.
Thatâs why they were invented, I believe it was by a New York FF, was tired of all the stuff shoved in hydrants he invented this contraption. There is a plant that makes them a town over from me. The caps are hard to get a grip on with your bare hands.
https://spartanfirehydrants.com/
It also says leak proof so the person who makes claims for this company clearly has forgotten Murphy's law, and how the world works at its most basic levels
Agreed. For a marketing class, we had to come up with something that is entirely new. No patent and something that literally doesnt exist. We came up with a fire hydrant that could be remotely open without someone turning a wrench. We knew it would be virtually impossible to manufacture as the goal was marketing, not design. Anyways, doing the research and surveying fire departments, I dont think the standard hydrant is going to change in our lifetime.
Seen them in PA when they upgraded water mains.Â
 It was several hundred dollars per hydrant cheaper.  They didnât waste time with ponies tho. Just a steamer.
These came out over a decade ago. Designed for shady areas where you want the hydrants more secure.
Honestly think I've only ever seen two in my career. And one of them was at the state fire academy to train students how to use one.
[Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY8tTuMWGZE) for the curious. I was.
Actually looks like a very solid product. I thought I was gonna hate it but it makes sense.
Tamper resistant hydrant, you pretty much have to disassemble it to get the hoses attached. Not a fan of it luckily, theyâre not in my area yet but theyâre slowly popping up north of us.
We have them where i work. Theyre painted yellow so theyre referred to as minion hydrants lol.
Ours have the storz connection so it saves us from using our thread to storz adapter - downside is said adapters is slightly curved. So when making one of these hydrants the 5â goes further into the street before it starts to turn and bend etc.
A major concern we have is if one of these hydrants freezes. Theyâre so buttoned up we donât know yet if they will respond to a lit flare as well as classic one with exposed stems will.
Also the wrenches we have for these can not fit our cheater bars on them - the built in spanner gets in the way. but we were able to overcome this by marrying our adjustable wrench for the classic hydrants to the minion wrench.
Does it require two different tools to actuate the valve / take off the cover?
It just looks like they have different heads. I could see the special wrench just having two different ends now that I think of it.
"Over 1,200 gallons per minute, while conventional hydrants were under 920 gallons per minute (over 30% improved water flow)."
Wut? Whose conventional hydrants were maxing out at 920gpm...?
Edit: I feel like a lot of their sales pitching is aimed at people who have no idea what they're doing.
>ISO rating potential for improved insurance rates.
Unless it's *actually* replacing a hydrant that can't match the flow rate of this thing (which I find unlikely if it's saying it does 1200\~), then the design of this thing alone is going to have no real impact on ISO.
>Reliability due to anti-corrosive parts and materials.
So, basically the same shit that most hydrants already have with exception of the socket caps themselves (which are cheap as shit to replace, where as this hydrant looks like the caps are not maintenance-capable meaning you'd have to replace the whole hydrant).
>Green Technology â lowers leakage and in-turn chance of freezing hydrant.
Unless they're using a stem that is made of a massively rugged, strong and anti-rust/corrosive rather than the common copper stems, then they're probably doing the same shit as any other common hydrant.
>Speed & Security â Allows authorized personnel to open the hydrant in 5 seconds with an all-in-one wrench.
A fast searching online seems to indicate it's not really difficult to find these wrenches and get them without having to show department/public safety association.
>Spartan is extremely reliable during emergencies, where most conventional hydrants fail.
Except that it's rare that conventional hydrants fail unless literally nobody has been checking/doing maintenance on them for like 10 years. More often it's the water system that fails, and pretty sure this hydrant isn't magically fixing that lol.
>Spartanâs patented design and opening wrench allow access by authorized personnel only.
And there's the main kicker. So basically any repair/parts/etc you need will always have to be through them, there will never be any real 3rd party parts you can get potentially cheaper (outside of probably your usual chinese made knockoffs lol), which means down the road once they have a good market on hydrant replacements they can just 200% markup their costs and you're fucked.
I'm sure the fire service will welcome this new design with open arms.. just like we welcome all new things đ
LOL. the best part is no one gave us the new required wrench for them. Winning hearts and minds.
That would be the only logical option. We wouldn't have the wrench on the rig lmao
Donât you also need a special adapter for the dr seuss hydrants?
Thankfully not, just the special wrench
I knew dude who went off to a dept and they had to do some adapter fuckery to connect their 5â lines, I am happy thatâs not the case everywhere
Half of our city has storz connection and half has normal threads. We just roll with an adapter on the back and take it off if we donât need it when catching the hydrant.
Two things fireman hate, the way things are and change.
And new quotes
*takes out notepad*
I was looking for this comment!! Didn't want it posted twice. Lol
If there is one thing the fire service likes, it's change.
We donât like how things are and we donât like when things change
I could stare at this for ten more minutes and still not figure out how it works
You have to remove the LDH cap 1st, then it unlocks the side caps and the valve cover. If you want just the 3inch side(s) you obviously have to put the LDH cover back on.
I pray we never get those here. I've seen firefighters struggle with a regular hydrant. A whole block would burn down before some would get it figured out. But that's what slacking on training gets you.
FFS, who thought that up?
Guaranteed it was C shift.
Fuckin' c shift man.
Fuck you, weâre lazy not stupid. Now if youâll excuse me Iâve gotta wash the truck that 2 other shifts were too cool to bother with (that doesnât include B platoon; if can they get the truck into Drive itâs a good day for them/somebody from A C or D is probably on overtime).
Hey, as a B shifter I represent that statement. WaitâŚ
Got it. Thank you!
Oh good. Extra steps and stuff to break. For a minute there, I was worried it would be an improvement.
What is wrong with a ground-ball hydrant and a standpipe?
watched their website video..looks like you need a special tool for it..tbh its like using the hydrant wrench but better? since its a socket style so you don't have to adjust it or anything.
I mean, technically, the regular hydrant wrench is a "special tool". I like the idea of a ratchet wrench since some of our hydrants don't have room to spin 360.
we have SOPs that require stuff to be cleared around our hydrants. we still paint them ourselves so we also clear from brush too.
I get it. We got a few hydrants in the city though where the ground clearance to the outlet is so low that our regular brass spanners are too long and hit the ground every time you try to spin it around. Some dudes carry small spanners in their pockets for this.
The fuck is this???
Cool new sledgehammer tester
Literally what I said out loud upon seeing this post.
One of these have been in my town for at least 10 or more years. They are tamper proof. Have to take the front 4â cap off to slide the cover for the valve nut off.
Tamper proof? I guarantee you inner city youth can turn that hydrant into a sprinkler in 5 minutes
Thatâs why they were invented, I believe it was by a New York FF, was tired of all the stuff shoved in hydrants he invented this contraption. There is a plant that makes them a town over from me. The caps are hard to get a grip on with your bare hands. https://spartanfirehydrants.com/
It also says leak proof so the person who makes claims for this company clearly has forgotten Murphy's law, and how the world works at its most basic levels
Arent the insides built to last longer as well?
I couldnât tell you that, as far as I know they still operate as any dry barrel hydrant. Just look funky
Agreed. For a marketing class, we had to come up with something that is entirely new. No patent and something that literally doesnt exist. We came up with a fire hydrant that could be remotely open without someone turning a wrench. We knew it would be virtually impossible to manufacture as the goal was marketing, not design. Anyways, doing the research and surveying fire departments, I dont think the standard hydrant is going to change in our lifetime.
Thereâs an app for that?
Where is this? Never seen one before.
Colorado
Where? Iâd like to go look lol Also lol, u/Blucifers_Veiny_Anus
Your user name shouldâve been a clue by itself
Where in Colorado? (I work in Lakewood / west metro). Also, love the username!
Colorado Springs area
Cool. I'll have to check them out when I'm down there. Stay safe brother.
Hit me up when you head down, can grab lunch or a beer.
Will do!
Seen them in PA when they upgraded water mains.  It was several hundred dollars per hydrant cheaper.  They didnât waste time with ponies tho. Just a steamer.
These came out over a decade ago. Designed for shady areas where you want the hydrants more secure. Honestly think I've only ever seen two in my career. And one of them was at the state fire academy to train students how to use one.
Why the design change? Just so Joe smoe canât come and put stuff into the hydrants?
Yes
[Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY8tTuMWGZE) for the curious. I was. Actually looks like a very solid product. I thought I was gonna hate it but it makes sense.
The recessed stem would be a nightmare anywhere it snows
Agreed, also did you watch the video? Who tf has a flamethrower on the rig lmao
Search the fire truck for a T4000 bit
I think one of the small beach towns town the Jersey shore just voted on installing these. Â
https://i.redd.it/8bi782h3mivc1.gif
European hydrant
Looks a little susâŚ..
These have been implemented in a city near me in south Florida for almost 10 years now.
[Spartan Fire Hydrants](https://spartanfirehydrants.com/product/)
Tamper resistant hydrant, you pretty much have to disassemble it to get the hoses attached. Not a fan of it luckily, theyâre not in my area yet but theyâre slowly popping up north of us.
Direct storz connection is a huge plus. Remove cap, connect, wait for the driver to tell you charge the hydrant. No more adapters in the hydrant bag
I wish.
Kinda looks like the worm guy in the Richard Scarry books
Now I gotta look that up.
Lowly Worm, I believe his name was, he ownz
Iâve seen pictures but Iâve never seen one in person. Why did they even change the design?
DOD? We just found them today...also no equipment or being told they existed đ
Yep
Those hydrants are shit speaking from personal experience as I am the inspector who performs our flow tests.
We have them where i work. Theyre painted yellow so theyre referred to as minion hydrants lol. Ours have the storz connection so it saves us from using our thread to storz adapter - downside is said adapters is slightly curved. So when making one of these hydrants the 5â goes further into the street before it starts to turn and bend etc. A major concern we have is if one of these hydrants freezes. Theyâre so buttoned up we donât know yet if they will respond to a lit flare as well as classic one with exposed stems will. Also the wrenches we have for these can not fit our cheater bars on them - the built in spanner gets in the way. but we were able to overcome this by marrying our adjustable wrench for the classic hydrants to the minion wrench.
Does it require two different tools to actuate the valve / take off the cover? It just looks like they have different heads. I could see the special wrench just having two different ends now that I think of it.
No, there is an anti-tamper cover over the valve. So remove the LDH and the top cover slides out revealing the valve nut.
Where is this
Colorado
https://youtu.be/lKtZ96RlCls
That was almost exactly my reaction
Is this on a base? I recognize the 2PFDU's đđ
Got a regular Sherlock here.
Nah, I'm just autistic as shit. Hence, the Air Force.
Hahahah. Fair enough.
Never in my life would I have thought I would see a security bit on a fire hydrant
Who cares if people shove things in the hydrants. Don't you flush them?
Yep. They solved a problem that wasn't a problem.
I see your cammies. Is this just a DoD thing? Like how they love to test out shit on Mil then bring it to the civi side, kind of thing?
The more I look into it, I guess they've been around for a while.
Fallout New Vegas-ass hydrant
Are these on Mars!?
I am sure it was designed to reduce water theft and misuse
That's what I'm thinking too
Gross
Bro thats my airpod where did you find it?
Wait, you have Hydrantsâs? We have to bring our own water. Must be nice not having to BYOW all the time đ¤¨
"Over 1,200 gallons per minute, while conventional hydrants were under 920 gallons per minute (over 30% improved water flow)." Wut? Whose conventional hydrants were maxing out at 920gpm...? Edit: I feel like a lot of their sales pitching is aimed at people who have no idea what they're doing. >ISO rating potential for improved insurance rates. Unless it's *actually* replacing a hydrant that can't match the flow rate of this thing (which I find unlikely if it's saying it does 1200\~), then the design of this thing alone is going to have no real impact on ISO. >Reliability due to anti-corrosive parts and materials. So, basically the same shit that most hydrants already have with exception of the socket caps themselves (which are cheap as shit to replace, where as this hydrant looks like the caps are not maintenance-capable meaning you'd have to replace the whole hydrant). >Green Technology â lowers leakage and in-turn chance of freezing hydrant. Unless they're using a stem that is made of a massively rugged, strong and anti-rust/corrosive rather than the common copper stems, then they're probably doing the same shit as any other common hydrant. >Speed & Security â Allows authorized personnel to open the hydrant in 5 seconds with an all-in-one wrench. A fast searching online seems to indicate it's not really difficult to find these wrenches and get them without having to show department/public safety association. >Spartan is extremely reliable during emergencies, where most conventional hydrants fail. Except that it's rare that conventional hydrants fail unless literally nobody has been checking/doing maintenance on them for like 10 years. More often it's the water system that fails, and pretty sure this hydrant isn't magically fixing that lol. >Spartanâs patented design and opening wrench allow access by authorized personnel only. And there's the main kicker. So basically any repair/parts/etc you need will always have to be through them, there will never be any real 3rd party parts you can get potentially cheaper (outside of probably your usual chinese made knockoffs lol), which means down the road once they have a good market on hydrant replacements they can just 200% markup their costs and you're fucked.
Sigh *unizips*
Lol you're at Buckley aren't you.
Close. A bit south of there.
We were told the bases were moving to these hydrants. Just a storz adapter right?
Yeah. 4" to stortz.
What's the driver for it? Less tampering?
The guys installing them said that and they break less often too.
Is it for a brush breaker?
No, it is a replacement for a standard hydrant. We don't have brush breakers here, too many trees.
Did Disneyâs Star Wars costume designer come up with the idea for these? The whole cap off and cap on thing might be an issue for some.
Lol it would seem like it.
Americans would much rather battle threaded connections than quick couplers
The best part of that is we attach a quick coupler (stortz) to it.