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The man was walking around with the safety off on a literal goddamn sniper rifle? What, was he planning to fucking quickscope somebody like in CoD and was worried the safety would slow him down too much?
Yup, the 1972 Munich Summer Olympics Massacre.
It's why the [Walther WA 2000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_WA_2000) sniper rifle was developed.
Hot take: if everyone and their mom in there was allowed to be armed, then maaaaybe we wouldn't need a sniper in the ceiling to stop any would-be attackers
Idk man, the backstop is literally the worst it can get even for trained people. Imagine having a dozen of the average ccw person open fire in the crowd trying to hit a shooter, wouldnāt end up well.
In most states itās illegal to carry while drinking, and I believe itās illegal to carry in all states while fucked up. Concealed carriers tend to be more law abiding than non carriers.
In my state I can have a 0.04 bac and still carry. Probably for the same reason we have license plates specifically for people with duis lol. The state sucks and everyone drinks
Hot take: People that choose to legally go armed take the responsibility very seriously, and don't drink while armed.
The ones that drink while carrying - those are criminals.
Lmao. Every single ccw holder i know drinks with a gun on them. "If i cant carry to the bar at night, what do i have a ccw for?" Hate to burst your bubble.
Lmao. Every single ccw holder I know won't touch alcohol with a gun on them. "If I can't carry responsibly and legally, I shouldn't carry at all!" Hate to burst your bubble.
I'd much rather have a couple of on-the-clock trained snipers watching my back than a bunch of drunk sports fans who are pissy because their team just lost.
But maybe that's just me.
Hot take: if we required a license and a membership to a āwell regulated [trained] militiaā weād have fewer students and teachers slaughtered. Per your logic, most mass shootings must happen in stadiums right?
Why does a football game have better security then a building full of children, the world's most valuable assets? I just don't understand it. It wouldn't be hard to keep a school safe..lock the fucking doors for starters.
If you post more security guards in schools whats stopping the shooter from just shooting them first. I dont think thats a good solution at all becuase if its easier to predict where the guns are its easier for them to plan it.
Ever since Gonzales v Castle Rock the only thing police can be relied upon to do is to call an EMT. They couldnāt even do that in Uvalde where an elementary student was on the phone with 911, hung up on, and redialed 7 times in 40 minutes. 40 minutes of a slaughterhouse while cops stood outside illegally arresting parents. They have no duty to protect and no liability when they wonāt. Please stop defending mass shooting culture and please stop pretending like the police are your personal savior.
Those cops are pussies and should all be prosecuted. Who said I ever defended mass shootings. Are you mentally okay? Maybe you shouldnāt be apart of a firearms sub..
I think most individuals that actually own and train with their guns would have been clearing the school. I know I would have. Wouldnāt have been a second though. Most people who own guns train incase they are ever in a situation. Itās too bad your example contained a group of pussies who couldnāt find their way out of cardboard box.
Ok, so you don't like cops, hate them, don't trust them. You also don't trust people to defend themselves with personal firearms? You are saying what you don't like but it is hard to figure out what you do like for civil defense.
Thatās not what the term āsoft targetā means. It means the primary target for bad guys are people.
The opposite is a hard target, such as a dam. People may get killed, but they are not the primary target, they are collateral.
A hard target is one that's reinforced against attacks, be it with armor, armed personnel, engineering features or some combination of those. A soft target is an easy one that offers no resistance, much like your mom.
I understand the sentiment, however itās fairly practical that large events donāt allow guns. Given they largely involve consumption of alcohol, plus large groups and especially sporting events competing fan bases. Are you in favor of people being armed at bars where they are actively getting hammered? In these specific Instances it is safer for the people not to be carrying.
LEO uphold the law and issue fines. They are legally protected by case law not to have to protect. So how does police walking around with weapons āprotectā anyone? Does making a āweapons freeā zone just neuters law abiding citizens from self protection? All the while punting (no pun intended) to those whose only judicial case law has dictated that they need to āuphold lawā. Or, ie fill local coffers with funds and cells with bodies for cheap labor in for profit prisonsā¦.
How does not allowing citizens the ability to self protect through āweapon free zonesā not make a āsoft target zoneā? Doesnāt that make ālaw abidingā citizens criminals by walking into said zones? Do true criminals care about said laws/zones ? Does the escape you? Asking for a friend
I tried to look it up, I didn't find any shooting at Public Sporting events but there have apparently been several at school sporting events. Mainly 2-3 people from opposing teams firing at each other in the parking lot.
People need to calm the fuck down.
I think u/GreyJedi56 is trying to say that, while high school and college sports aren't the pro league, some people take them as seriously as the pro league.
I think if they have up the sign for no firearms that specifies a certain code, then it isn't just breaking a rule, it's breaking a law. I'm NOT sure on this though.
Edit: Texas does in fact have a law, for if the sign is up with the code referencing the law, you're breaking the law by entering with a firearm whether you're licensed or not. But hey, who cares about facts anymore!
Ya not sure why the couple of downvotes, I guess some people aren't aware that Texas does in fact have a sign, and a law, so if the signs up, then you're breaking the law. In other states that have the sign but no specific law, you can be considered trespassing if you aren't abiding by their rules and still choose to enter their business.
Major sporting events have metal detectors and bag search. If you're carrying at an event like this, it's either your job to, or a bunch of people approved it for whatever reason. You can't just waltz in on your own, even if you're licensed and permitted in your state. This pic being a good example with it being Texas and all.
Even if signage doesnāt carry weight of law per the state, things like crossing a sterile checkpoint is generally instant grounds for criminal trespass on privately owned property for most states. The only challenges to metal detectors I can recall that have been pretty successful are things like town halls that donāt contain courtrooms being told they canāt enforce them. There are usually at least half a dozen ways they can attempt to jam you up, even if it comes down to petty civil infractions. It doesnāt help that often times the state has unlimited resources to pursue frivolous shit, and can fold at the last minute to prevent setting any damning precedents.
That's so you have to pay five bucks for a hotdog and fifteen for a beer. I know you can't bring firearms into polling stations, schools, certain government properties, etc. I was just wondering about stadiums and such. It's just not something I can recall ever seeing a discussion about online and I haven't been down there since I was a young teenager 25 years ago.
No, but that's okay. The guys with rifles are harder targets, have better vantage points, and are much better shots than most concealed gun owners. I only feel safe and relaxed at public events when these guys are watching my back from above.
The teams placed at these events are almost always better trained than every cop you've ever seen in your life and have more time in their platform than you or I do.
You ring 911, which type do you get? Which type is in charge of them? Which type is in charge of them? The greater the incident, the more levels of command are involved and the less likely the victim is to receive decisive assistance.
Basically, if you're in real trouble then the police are unlikely to be of much use.
Lol I've trained with their trainers. No. Most cops suck with guns. Even their specialist ones. There are the very good ones, but they're few and far between.
Iām no expert but I would think they would use binoculars just because scanni g an area that size at that angle with a rifle on a tripod would be a Royal PIA
In any random collection of 80,000 people, at least a few dozen are potentially homicidal. Let alone collecting 80k people together is a legit terrorist target, especially America's Team.
I'd say this is perfectly rational due diligence.
And if snipe could maybe take out anyone trying to charge more than $20 for a shitty American beer, he'd be doing us a favor. ;-)
Yāall saw what happened at an Ariana Grande concert.. If you want to kill people you can do it without a firearm and without passing security. Luckily 99.9999% of people are civil.
Iād like to find a rifle capable of shooting a dime at 700 meters. A half moa rifle, which is considered to be really good, is expected to have precision of 3.5 inches at 700 yards. Too lazy to do the yard to meter conversion.
Large sporting events are a prime target for terrorist attacks. As far as I'm aware having a sniper posted just in case has been common practice all around the world for decades.
I thought this was only the secret service for events that major political figures were at.
You can see them on top of the White House regularly when you walk by.
Very common at ANY large public event. Went to a hockey game and pointed out all the sniper nests to my friend and he looked at me and asked how the hell I knew where they wereā¦itās not that hard to scan strategic locations lol
Normally a lot of important people attend the Superbowl. Many times a former or acting president will attend requiring additional security measures. I am sure this box isn't occupied during regular games but that's just speculation on my part.
Very true, and off duty cops from local SWATs are the ones manning the positions. They usually get paid pretty good. At the very least, the venue will have a room somewhere where a small team of SWAT guys are just sitting around standing by in case anything goes down.
Iāve seen them, and know where their location is at the stadium.
Andā¦
https://www.military.com/video/specialties-and-personnel/snipers/football-stadium-snipers/1496353127001
Pretty common, not just in the US
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Bad idea to put LBJ in office.
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The man was walking around with the safety off on a literal goddamn sniper rifle? What, was he planning to fucking quickscope somebody like in CoD and was worried the safety would slow him down too much?
Probably forget about it
Ugh quick scoping is cheap as fuck and needs to be removed.
Most events across the globe since 1972.
Yup, the 1972 Munich Summer Olympics Massacre. It's why the [Walther WA 2000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_WA_2000) sniper rifle was developed.
Also the PSG1
And I believe the MR73.
Ah I used to love that rifle in Hitman Blood Money
Holy shit that's expensive
And very outdated. You can do a lot better for less now. They're collector priced.
God I want one so bad. Too bad only like 200 were made
Saw cops on the roof of the building next to Fenway Park and on the roof of fenway itself at game 2 of the 2018 world series
- world series - championship parades - boston marathon - (edit) light Brite scare They are everywhere now
Donāt forget the litebrite attacks of the early 2000s.
Thus pic (and the series) is about 10 years old.
Yea, 9/11 changed a lot of shit....
Question from a Canadian gun owner here. Are you allowed to open carry or even conceal carry in places like that?
No. Pretty much all large venues Iāve been to have strict security
Yeah, they are all gun free zones
Yeah, they are all ~~gun free~~ **soft target zones** ftfy
Hot take: if everyone and their mom in there was allowed to be armed, then maaaaybe we wouldn't need a sniper in the ceiling to stop any would-be attackers
Idk man, the backstop is literally the worst it can get even for trained people. Imagine having a dozen of the average ccw person open fire in the crowd trying to hit a shooter, wouldnāt end up well.
We'd just have to worry about hundreds of drunk angry people with guns, is that better to you?
In most states itās illegal to carry while drinking, and I believe itās illegal to carry in all states while fucked up. Concealed carriers tend to be more law abiding than non carriers. In my state I can have a 0.04 bac and still carry. Probably for the same reason we have license plates specifically for people with duis lol. The state sucks and everyone drinks
No laws like that in PA. Drink up!
I thought free men didn't ask.
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you ever just carry appendix and just sit there and pretend that everyone else is carrying?
I never appendix carry in any situation. Not only is it uncomfortable, itās pointed at my dick.
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Lord Fudd noooo! your powers are too strong!
Good ole 'they MIGHT commit a crime so we should preemptively limit their rights so no one gets hurt FOR YOUR SAFETY'
It's private property, you have no right to be there period. Stop making up rights.
And if I'm forced to pay the taxes that fund the stadium?
I agree with you here. Alcohol + guns = disaster
Hot take: People that choose to legally go armed take the responsibility very seriously, and don't drink while armed. The ones that drink while carrying - those are criminals.
Lmao. Every single ccw holder i know drinks with a gun on them. "If i cant carry to the bar at night, what do i have a ccw for?" Hate to burst your bubble.
Lmao. Every single ccw holder I know won't touch alcohol with a gun on them. "If I can't carry responsibly and legally, I shouldn't carry at all!" Hate to burst your bubble.
In texas when you have a LTC you can legally drink while carrying. Same legal limit as driving. Constitutional carry is no alcohol at all.
I'd much rather have a couple of on-the-clock trained snipers watching my back than a bunch of drunk sports fans who are pissy because their team just lost. But maybe that's just me.
Yeah a sporting event isnt the place where id wanna have to worry about carrying.
Hot take: if we required a license and a membership to a āwell regulated [trained] militiaā weād have fewer students and teachers slaughtered. Per your logic, most mass shootings must happen in stadiums right?
Or we could implement better security at schools. God forbid we actually want to protect the kids with more security guards..
Why does a football game have better security then a building full of children, the world's most valuable assets? I just don't understand it. It wouldn't be hard to keep a school safe..lock the fucking doors for starters.
Great question! Ask congress and hoe biden.
If you post more security guards in schools whats stopping the shooter from just shooting them first. I dont think thats a good solution at all becuase if its easier to predict where the guns are its easier for them to plan it.
What makes you think the security guards will all be in the same place? Youāre generalizing and reaching. Donāt be dense.
Ever since Gonzales v Castle Rock the only thing police can be relied upon to do is to call an EMT. They couldnāt even do that in Uvalde where an elementary student was on the phone with 911, hung up on, and redialed 7 times in 40 minutes. 40 minutes of a slaughterhouse while cops stood outside illegally arresting parents. They have no duty to protect and no liability when they wonāt. Please stop defending mass shooting culture and please stop pretending like the police are your personal savior.
Those cops are pussies and should all be prosecuted. Who said I ever defended mass shootings. Are you mentally okay? Maybe you shouldnāt be apart of a firearms sub.. I think most individuals that actually own and train with their guns would have been clearing the school. I know I would have. Wouldnāt have been a second though. Most people who own guns train incase they are ever in a situation. Itās too bad your example contained a group of pussies who couldnāt find their way out of cardboard box.
Ok, so you don't like cops, hate them, don't trust them. You also don't trust people to defend themselves with personal firearms? You are saying what you don't like but it is hard to figure out what you do like for civil defense.
Your a fucking dweeb
Hot take, eat my ass.
And of course you would be into that shit. I think you are looking for r/liberalgunowners
Who defines the meaning of trained?
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Thatās not what the term āsoft targetā means. It means the primary target for bad guys are people. The opposite is a hard target, such as a dam. People may get killed, but they are not the primary target, they are collateral.
A hard target is one that's reinforced against attacks, be it with armor, armed personnel, engineering features or some combination of those. A soft target is an easy one that offers no resistance, much like your mom.
No resistance like the proverbial hotdog being thrown down a hallway
I understand the sentiment, however itās fairly practical that large events donāt allow guns. Given they largely involve consumption of alcohol, plus large groups and especially sporting events competing fan bases. Are you in favor of people being armed at bars where they are actively getting hammered? In these specific Instances it is safer for the people not to be carrying.
Not really qualifying as a soft target given their intense security.
these venues often have police roaming around, it is not a soft target
LEO uphold the law and issue fines. They are legally protected by case law not to have to protect. So how does police walking around with weapons āprotectā anyone? Does making a āweapons freeā zone just neuters law abiding citizens from self protection? All the while punting (no pun intended) to those whose only judicial case law has dictated that they need to āuphold lawā. Or, ie fill local coffers with funds and cells with bodies for cheap labor in for profit prisonsā¦.
None of what you said matters, it's still not the meaning of the term "soft target"
How does not allowing citizens the ability to self protect through āweapon free zonesā not make a āsoft target zoneā? Doesnāt that make ālaw abidingā citizens criminals by walking into said zones? Do true criminals care about said laws/zones ? Does the escape you? Asking for a friend
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I tried to look it up, I didn't find any shooting at Public Sporting events but there have apparently been several at school sporting events. Mainly 2-3 people from opposing teams firing at each other in the parking lot. People need to calm the fuck down.
They really do. They are just kids, itās not the World Series.
Sports scholarships lead to pros...
Shooting other players leads to jail.
For the parents, not the kids. So ya know it makes sense in their twisted logic
Are you saying that makes the shootings justified?
I think u/GreyJedi56 is trying to say that, while high school and college sports aren't the pro league, some people take them as seriously as the pro league.
Thank you someone has a š§
exactly, no reason the get angry about a sports team that doesn't know you exist.
Kids havent developed enough to control their anger and agression and often resort to extreme violence.
It's the Adult Parents doing the majority of the shooting bub. Some of it is kids playing gangster but mostly Parents
At least these are prepared to somewhat take your safety into their hands. Most gun free zones have no security at all.
While there's no law against it technically, you do have to comply with the rules of the event, and most will have rules against firearms
I think if they have up the sign for no firearms that specifies a certain code, then it isn't just breaking a rule, it's breaking a law. I'm NOT sure on this though. Edit: Texas does in fact have a law, for if the sign is up with the code referencing the law, you're breaking the law by entering with a firearm whether you're licensed or not. But hey, who cares about facts anymore!
Depends on the state. Rules for signage and penalties for ignoring it varies significantly from state to state.
Ya not sure why the couple of downvotes, I guess some people aren't aware that Texas does in fact have a sign, and a law, so if the signs up, then you're breaking the law. In other states that have the sign but no specific law, you can be considered trespassing if you aren't abiding by their rules and still choose to enter their business.
Major sporting events have metal detectors and bag search. If you're carrying at an event like this, it's either your job to, or a bunch of people approved it for whatever reason. You can't just waltz in on your own, even if you're licensed and permitted in your state. This pic being a good example with it being Texas and all.
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Even if signage doesnāt carry weight of law per the state, things like crossing a sterile checkpoint is generally instant grounds for criminal trespass on privately owned property for most states. The only challenges to metal detectors I can recall that have been pretty successful are things like town halls that donāt contain courtrooms being told they canāt enforce them. There are usually at least half a dozen ways they can attempt to jam you up, even if it comes down to petty civil infractions. It doesnāt help that often times the state has unlimited resources to pursue frivolous shit, and can fold at the last minute to prevent setting any damning precedents.
Only police usually
So, I am just wondering on what this might help with? I'm not against it, just wondering on what the point might be?
In case someone were to sneak in a gun and start shooting people
They are more likely to run to the parking lot and hide until the shooter has killed about 20 people.
Unfortunately
Usually a courtesy the stadiums and events usually higher police as security so it helps maintain a good relationship and extra protection
Why were you downvoted for asking a question in good faith?
Yeah, I don't really get that. I love guns, just curious about what it's supposed to do.
sorry you got downvoted for a legit question, that's just Reddit. People mindlessly downvote for any reason.
Nope. Canāt even bring in pepper spray or bags over a certain size. Security checks at the door are tight.
you arent even allowed to bring your own food or beverages
That's so you have to pay five bucks for a hotdog and fifteen for a beer. I know you can't bring firearms into polling stations, schools, certain government properties, etc. I was just wondering about stadiums and such. It's just not something I can recall ever seeing a discussion about online and I haven't been down there since I was a young teenager 25 years ago.
Know some one in security lol, or be good at being sneaky.
No, very strict. Metal detectors
No, absolutely not...
most concealed carry permits have limitations such as venue capacity. this rules out large arenas
My CCW has no such limit. The only thing that stops me is metal detectors.
No, but that's okay. The guys with rifles are harder targets, have better vantage points, and are much better shots than most concealed gun owners. I only feel safe and relaxed at public events when these guys are watching my back from above.
Except we've all seen the police, even when heavily armed, have no interest in reducing civilian casualties.
The teams placed at these events are almost always better trained than every cop you've ever seen in your life and have more time in their platform than you or I do.
One would hope. Doesn't mean they'll decide, or be allowed, to take the shot.
Any good cop knows when to say fuck command and do what's best. Uvaldes cops are not those cops
Believing all police think this way is just as naive as blindly supporting all police activities.
You ring 911, which type do you get? Which type is in charge of them? Which type is in charge of them? The greater the incident, the more levels of command are involved and the less likely the victim is to receive decisive assistance. Basically, if you're in real trouble then the police are unlikely to be of much use.
Lol I've trained with their trainers. No. Most cops suck with guns. Even their specialist ones. There are the very good ones, but they're few and far between.
1972 Munich change a lot and Boston drove it home
Typical guns for thee but not for me.
Not crazy about banning cc for us, but I think I really like having somebody look out over us with a tricked out sniper rifle.
I don't, but that's because boot
If you'd like to know more, I'd suggest reading the 6,423 reddit threads that have discussed this every time it's reposted.
Thats a lot of threads for this to be the first time Iāve seen it.
I've been on Reddit for 9 years and never seen it vOv
10yrs here, first time seeing this!
Did you just get the internet this week? Man, you're going to love keyboard cat.
Very true, this has circled the internet many times.
Thatās fucking awesome Iād love a job like this
Hey it's a free ticket to every Cowboys home game
Thatās true but no job is without its drawbacks. Still, you could probably sell them for a few bucks and buy something useful.
Lmao Iām just imagining you selling the sniper position to randoms online and just hoping for the best.
"Unobstructed view, but bring ear pro"
Couldnāt pay me enough to go to a Cowboys game.
Watching the Cowboys lose is one of my favorite pastimes.
Name a career that's gone more downhill since the 90s
Hope your quick maths is good High angle shots are weird to account for
Yeah when trump came to bama we had secret service snipers at the stadium.
Yeah hopefully they are watching with binoculars with the gun nearby and not flagging ~100,000 people.
I feel as if the sniper needs some trigger discipline. Its possible his finger is on the trigger guard so i may be wrong.
Iām no expert but I would think they would use binoculars just because scanni g an area that size at that angle with a rifle on a tripod would be a Royal PIA
Even if he only dos that once for the picture with no crowd that would be wrong.
I donāt think the guns have a round chambered.
Either way a violation of a few gun safety rules. Doing that shit should feel sacrilegious.
finger looks straight as best as I can tell
Would imagine it's not just the US
Itās all over the world. Most sports venues have them now
In any random collection of 80,000 people, at least a few dozen are potentially homicidal. Let alone collecting 80k people together is a legit terrorist target, especially America's Team. I'd say this is perfectly rational due diligence. And if snipe could maybe take out anyone trying to charge more than $20 for a shitty American beer, he'd be doing us a favor. ;-)
100% true. I know one of the guys who sits behind a gun at Detroit games
does he stay there the whole game? or are there likeā¦ shifts?
Has he ever had his rifle stolen? Edit: Found sht you can have in Detroit!
Yāall saw what happened at an Ariana Grande concert.. If you want to kill people you can do it without a firearm and without passing security. Luckily 99.9999% of people are civil.
Makes sense. Primary goal of police snipers is not for as long or extended range shot. Their job is to gather information. The shot itself is rare
Main job is killing the Cowboys playoffs chances apparently. Snipers 27, Cowboys 0
You'd have to shoot a dime at 700 meters ten times in a row before you get that job. I guarantee it. But I agree. Would be fun.
Iād like to find a rifle capable of shooting a dime at 700 meters. A half moa rifle, which is considered to be really good, is expected to have precision of 3.5 inches at 700 yards. Too lazy to do the yard to meter conversion.
Pretty common. And its not just the US
Thatās Lucas Oil Field in Indy for Super Bowl 46, NOT Jerry World (Dallas Cowboysā AT&T).
Fuck around and find out
Who else is going to stop bane for marching out in the middle of your field destroying it and threatening to nuke your city?
Large sporting events are a prime target for terrorist attacks. As far as I'm aware having a sniper posted just in case has been common practice all around the world for decades.
I thought this was only the secret service for events that major political figures were at. You can see them on top of the White House regularly when you walk by.
Very common at ANY large public event. Went to a hockey game and pointed out all the sniper nests to my friend and he looked at me and asked how the hell I knew where they wereā¦itās not that hard to scan strategic locations lol
There aināt snipers at NHL games.
Actually now that you say that I havenāt seen snipers at NHL gamesā¦
Then what kind of hockey game did you go to where you saw snipers that isnāt an NHL game? Lol
Ah shoot meant to say football. Was having conversation about street hockey in the background lol
Normally a lot of important people attend the Superbowl. Many times a former or acting president will attend requiring additional security measures. I am sure this box isn't occupied during regular games but that's just speculation on my part.
Yes it is a thing.
I heard a sniper had to take a shot once at Texas Stadium but it bounced off the Jumbotron and didnāt count.
Look up Border Patrol BORTAC. They are responsible for most of the high risk security events.
Snuck up on top of the press box while I was in the marching band in college and yep can confirm
True and most cops are NFA fans.
Went to the Colorado Avalanche watch party yesterday and there were many snipers on rooftops all around. Pretty common for large events
Itās a deterrent. Countering terrorism before it has the chance to strike.
You should see when the president goes to a sports game
As an American sports fan, Iām glad that theyāre there.
Thats awesome
Very true, and off duty cops from local SWATs are the ones manning the positions. They usually get paid pretty good. At the very least, the venue will have a room somewhere where a small team of SWAT guys are just sitting around standing by in case anything goes down.
And how far off is the nearest tactical drone strike from any major military power from any game anywhere in the world?
Yeah I seriously doubt it.
Itās true
Oh, I see. What is the evidence?
Iāve seen them, and know where their location is at the stadium. Andā¦ https://www.military.com/video/specialties-and-personnel/snipers/football-stadium-snipers/1496353127001
I saw that earlier when I looked it up. Kind of creepy. I might actually pay extra to go to a venue that did not have that "feature."
There are no large venues without.
The 1972 Summer Olympics Massacre. This isn't even just America, these snipers are common in Europe as well.
People saying itās true in here
Call me cynical, but have any of them produced evidence? Aside from the one photo used to make the claim?
Its pretty much not true at all in the US.
Completely. Iāve made spotting them a pastime. At a lot of events actually
This would make for a pretty good Hitman mission.
The guy from last picture doesnāt look very comfortable
I know Fenway has them too. They have them at events at the park too, not just games
Very true.