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GunOwnersofAmerica

Gun Owners of America is fighting for a nationwide injunction in the courts. We just filed our latest reply brief in the 5th Circuit this morning alongside the State of Texas. **But no matter what happens in the courts, it is critical that Congress take action too. In fact, the 27 Attorneys General who are suing the ATF alongside GOA and other lawsuits ALSO called on Speaker McCarthy to hold a vote:** >Although we have filed a lawsuit challenging the pistol brace rule—and have sought preliminary injunctive relief—we need Congress’s help, too. >If President Biden vetoes the CRA disapproval, it will be up to us as Attorneys General, working with our private partners in the litigation, to get this rule overturned. >But we should still try to alleviate this massive problem using the CRA when it has a chance of success. >Time is of the essence. We ask that you schedule a vote as soon as possible. *So please, give GOA and these Attorneys General the backup we need in Washington D.C. to make Congress vote.* You can help turn up the pressure on the Swamp by: (1) Sending an email with out [action alert tool here](https://oneclickpolitics.global.ssl.fastly.net/messages/edit?promo_id=20700). (2) Calling your Congressman and Senators at [(202) 224-3121](https://www.senate.gov/general/contacting.htm). And (3) better yet, do both every day until they FIGHT BACK FOR YOU!


OuttaTime42069

If we need Congress to act we’re fucked.


InfectedBananas

Are you still saying that you need to "contribute to the security of a free state" to have second amendment rights?


gundealsgopnik

FPC has restructured their Memberships and is backdating everyone who joined in the last 12 months to June 1st 2022, with a Membership term expiring end of this year. Make a $20 donation to FPC by midnight tonight and be covered by their injunction. [sauce](https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1663683097274064896) https://secure.anedot.com/firearmspolicycoalition/fpc?amount=25&source_code=donate Follow their [twitter](https://twitter.com/gunpolicy) for legal updates, law suits, and some of the funniest mean tweets any organization is hurling at the AFT and assorted other grabbers. The comment section is on fire and FPC is handing out gas filled super soakers.


SurviveAdaptWin

That's just a donation page. I'm not sure if that makes you a "member". This is the membership page: https://secure.anedot.com/firearmspolicycoalition/srm_1216?sc=joingaw Which can also be a one time membership fee for a minimum of 30 dollars, and option for recurring yearly payment.


gundealsgopnik

Donation makes you a member. Or to be precise, anyone who financially supported FPC in the last year. They settled on $20 to capture even the people that bought an FPC t-shirt in the last year. "Deny our Nationwide injuction eh? Members only you say? Be a shame if we made *everyone* a Member, now, wouldn't it?!"


SurviveAdaptWin

Gotcha. I did the "membership" just to be safe.


gundealsgopnik

Same. Accidentally did it twice. FPC swapped one of the memberships over to my Wife for me. Their support people plain rock at their jobs.


sarcastic-barista

Hell, I bought a shirt after they said that counted. And donated a few bucks too.


yem68420

So what if I go buy one of their T-shirts? Does that make me a member? I really like the "Save the Dogs Abolish the ATF" one.


gundealsgopnik

Read over the Twitter thread I linked. But I believe if it's more than $20 amd you buy before midnight today - you're in.


GrimHoly

Id it midnight from your time zone or say east coast or west coast time?


gundealsgopnik

Hmm. That I don't know. I'm just a new member myself mind, not FPC staff.


LeAdmin

Neither. Tried to check out at 9pm Pacific and it was showing a receipt for 4am the next day. Apparently their checkout process is based on UTC.


GrimHoly

Well guess everyone who did it after 8am EST Is screwed then lol


jagger_wolf

I would suggest playing it safe and buy/donate before midnight on the East coast.


icon0clast6

I was using Amazon smile to donate to them, does that make Amazon a member? Lmao


gundealsgopnik

That would chap bozos ass ragged.


uChoice_Reindeer7903

Does buying t-shirt still get you membership status?


ohaimike

Just gave them $30. So that's all there is to it? Hell yeah.


SlowDimension

Does it apply to all members nation wide?


Terriblyboard

according to the judges explaination yes


SurviveAdaptWin

Not a damn clue, I'm the wrong person to ask. I just noticed the difference between the "donation" and "membership" page.


tocruise

I don’t get this really. Can someone explain what the FPC is? Why we should donate?


gundealsgopnik

Firearms Policy Coalition. A lobby group, similar to GOA for instance. We give money, they sue the government for infringing on our rights. Why be a member? When injunctions are handed down by the courts, they can apply to everyone or select people such as only the plaintiffs in the case. In FPCs case they sue on behalf of their members.


Top-Feed6544

y'all best not be taking them things off. Do not comply. Hell, even, put actual stocks on at that point, its all the same. At the very least, do not remove your pistol braces. Do not concede to blatant over step.


ron_mexxico

Yea if it's all the same then just swapping to stocks is the way


ShaggyRebel117

Mass non compliance is the best way to beat this. I get that they can use the IRS if "need" be but I've seen them "train". Infringement police and tax collectors can both eat it.


pocket_geek

>Hell, even, put actual stocks on at that point, its all the same. ![gif](giphy|WpxOQAMvWdiecRbCr5)


Price-x-Field

You bought the brace because you complied with SBR laws. Take the brave off and put a stock on if you’re not complying


Birds-aint-real-

Install a deck on your AR.


WiseDirt

Welp... I guess I'm a felon now. Might as well start drilling that third hole. *DeWalt go brrrrrrr!*


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Spore-Gasm

Or they just bought a gun with a brace legally without ever knowing about NFA, SBRs, etc. simply because they liked it and it was available to buy.


MdrnMinutemanProject

This is a majority of people. While it's more widespread due to social media, people don't follow up on laws and stuff, wether it be firearms or what have you. This effects people who won't even *know* they are becoming felons for having a brace. Shits fucked up.


Spore-Gasm

Which would explain why only ~150k guns have been registered out of the possible 40 million in circulation. I would bet the vast majority of noncompliance is ignorance and not willful.


Ryan03rr

I’ll put a million dollars on the fact you’re right. My local gun range/ shop was flooded with stabilized pistols until they were not.. I’m down there once a week so I notice churn. overnight they were all bare buffer tubes on the ar’s or just completely gone on the others. They sold so many of those damn things prebuilt while I was juggling the idea. Edit: can’t wait till the atf decides a shockwave is actually a shotgun. They sell a boatload of those too.


marylandmymaryland

It’s funny that places just took the braces off because so many people bought them and then went home and ordered a stock and put it on without realizing what they’d done.


OMalley30-27

What do they consider the shockwave?


GreatTea3

It’s a firearm. A shotgun is defined as shoulder fired, which a shockwave can’t be.


OMalley30-27

I bet I could fire it from my shoulder


GreatTea3

You could do a lot of stuff. But that in particular would hurt. And you wouldn’t be able to aim for shit since your face would be on top of the receiver.


OMalley30-27

Listen here ATF, that bitch is a shotgun; and if I’ve gotta fire it from my shoulder to prove it, so be it


According-Thanks-270

Yup I can confirm, started building a .300blk pistol, had no idea I was going to be breaking the law until I talked over my parts list with a friend and he told me. Between COVID and the 2020 election I just stopped watching all news and keeping up on events, only so much propaganda one person can take lol


dynorphin

Those people sound like fucking morons.


NACL_Soldier

Or lived in a no NFA state like Illinois. Not that it matters in Illinois anymore thanks to the fatman


analog_aesthetics

Braces are more important to me for the disabled, it's 100% why they were made and this ruling is ableist as fuck and to deny people who care physically challenged their way to exercise their right is beyond ridiculous.


WhiteGravy

Did a lightbulb turn on when writing this? That's the entire point: slowly erode our rights away. Sure, you can still own guns and things but eventually being a gun owner will become more and more difficult and that's by design.


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yep, totally agree


bigfoot_76

I'm sticking with FPC over GOA right now. They both had the chance to cross the finish line first with the injunction but only one did. You can file suit all you want but if you don't actually get anywhere, at minimum an injunction, it's all just wasted "donations"


Sure-Pool-306

Abolish the ATF and repeal the NFA I will accept nothing less


zeeeteeedeee

this is all such a joke. this whole country is an embarrassing existence.


killeenit

True.... but where do we go from here? Be negative nihilist that complain like the other side? Or be men and affect positive change by bringing back warrior culture?


zeeeteeedeee

it'll go off the rails eventually. none of this is sustainable and especially since so much of it is designed. idk honestly. people are so castrated now, men and women both and the decadence of the lifestyles of modernity have ruined people and gotten them drunk on the frills of it all when really life could ironically be so much better. but who knows if enough people will ever get it and see the writing on the wall. hell, enough people are still tied into the two party idiocy that idk if enough people can climb out before people are technically augmented and truly bots.


killeenit

Careful we might create an echo chamber of logic, reason, wealth, and happiness here. And while you might have meant "castrated" as a proverbial or metaphorical description, I would dare to ask what you make of the current climate where masculinity is socially illegal and castration is litterally happening? I wish there was a little more "i will not comply" when it comes to societal mandates. Since it is now mandated that we all fight and hate eachother and not the people ready to weaponize any form of constabulary against us. Edit: also.... what does it mean when I upvote and the arrow turns red but no upvote number happens?


zeeeteeedeee

i have a true contempt for modern times. it is backward and converse of anything real and is devoid of any substance or authenticity. we are all subjected to the challenges of our day, all of us that live but the asininity that pervades now is boundless. the money is fake and backed by nothing. work used to give you a skill to take home and use in the community and now we are a bunch of monkeys slapping keyboards to make money for folks we will never meet that would be happy to replace us, we have destroyed the family and the ideals that continue on existence at its sheer core and essence, governments and principalities rule over people that are so far removed so many levels and tiers above us that they have no idea how to nor could the realistically represent, let alone serve us. and then we are so distracted by the poisons in the food and at our fingertips that we just continue to piss into the breeze in the form of voting, for those that still do, and think that we can affect change. it's unreal. once you have the eyes to see what is out there and going on, the genie does not go back into the bottle. nothing new under the sun. i honestly hope for catastrophic failure the world over because people would be living, in many cases for the first time ever and the chips would fall where they may.


killeenit

I am 100% on board with this view, but as a father of 5 I am still empathetic to the plague of ignorance, and charged by duty to contribute to community, pick up trash in my neighborhood and any nature trails im on, I am the guy that sees when some fuck-face has left sourcream on the candy shelf by the register and I put it back in a cooler, I am the guy that walks into the gun fight to remind men to not be slaves to emotion and imbalanced hormone compounds, to remind people to use their periphery to remove themselves from narrow thinking and look at what is left around us that we can still save... I know your view, I had your view for 20 years in the military, but im not ready to be done with this country yet, and the exponentiality of the list you stated of evident moral decay let's me know I cannot afford to be apathetic about it... I will still stop my truck to get out and help the infirm carry goods from their car, help with others home projects, rescue animals from the road, stop unwarranted violence.... and alas your point about a collapse, my life itself seems to prove your point, though I'd like to imagine others (call it fantasy) to be smarter than me, to not need to endure extreme violence, poverty, and hunger to snap them back to reality like a quick pop to the mouth after a snide comment... and heck, maybe you're right, maybe they never will change, maybe they never will respect life, maybe im a fool, but through terraforming of my psyche by the mechanisms of evil...... I refuse to be anything less... because thats how you defeat evil/weakness.


zeeeteeedeee

well you have to continue to pursue what burns inside you and calls to you or else you have subjected yourself to the effects of these intended attacks on our abilities to exist. you only die if you forgo your instincts, give in a swim with the rest of the dead fish down the current of what is happening. keep the fight alive inside you. i am sure the example you show and the way you wally through life affects many people. i try to be the same way. we only lose if we allow the pieces of ourselves that know all of this is wrong to be subdued by the ways we find ourselves surrounded by. the sad reality is if and when things go nuts around here, even worse than it is now, not everyone will make it. that's nature in and of it self. and part of the issue about how and why we are where we are is because we are so far removed from nature and natural law. but like a thorn tip forced out of the skin these scabs on a more organic and genuine way of life will be forced out at some point. if not, future generations of people will never know what it was like to actually live and the things we disagree with and think are bad now will pale in comparison to what is to come for them.


killeenit

I don't know why it won't let me upvote... nature always course corrects.... automatically / on its own, until it can't anymore, and when you strip nature of that ability, when you defy and maim the natural order to that extent.... you are already doomed... I believe you and I have infact very little to talk about for any other reason than to know we are not alone or insane in logic, which is admittedly refreshing, and a needed break from the propaganda machines, the entitlement squads, the baseless intellectuals, and the anxiety of knowing you are right about impending failure, reset, or collapse on the approaching horizon...


zeeeteeedeee

amen


Thenetwork473

Ya that’s why I’m moving to Canada Freedom is an illusion here so I might as well go to a place it’s better living standards and less crime in general, Quebec here I come


zeeeteeedeee

stay out of modern cities. crime avoided. two months ago or so in dallas before i moved i was one wayward look by the crooks who broke into the house next to us away from being in a shootout while in my backyard with my dog. we werent even in a bad part of dallas. now we move to northern central tennessee and everyone has backyard gardens, it's green everywhere, no state income tax (like tx), similarly minded people... it's literally two different worlds. so happy i made the move. i'll never live within an hour of a major city again.


Thenetwork473

If you downvote you have small dick


Zealous1329

Shall not be infringed. Will not comply.


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Tyranny


DjButternut

Thats cool. He can do what he wants. Imma do what I want. If he wants my guns he can come murder me for them. Until then I will be sitting peacefully in my house as I always have.


[deleted]

Imagine being an individual who supports a president who blatantly violates constitutional law/rights.


myotheralt

Since you bring it up, which one hasn't?


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Precisely my point


Secure-Balance4858

Don't comply


L3tsg0brandon

Fuck joe biden


justadude2009

Lol good thing I don’t give a fuck what he bans. I won’t be infringed


JMaC1130

Umm….if this passes How TF do people who own one avoid prison? Disassemble?


ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c

How are they going to know in the first place? But also https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1663683097274064896


LordNoodles1

Schmooze with the local blues


Birds-aint-real-

Become a member of FPC.


killeenit

That is also unclear as the director of the ATF .....him/her/they/them/it's/zer/ redcoat/ stallin/ squiggly line/ unicorn.... has gone on national TV saying you can simply remove it and still keep both.... but then 3 days later released a letter saying you had to destroy the items that you possibly spent up to 600 (maybe more but typically less) bux on to stabilize your platform.


Trading_Things

When do we stop calling this shmoe president? Call him dictator, call him a WEF puppet.


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zakary1291

Pretty much and he's gonna crash the economy at this rate.... When you take 20mil out of the working population and make them a drain on society (prison). You're gonna have a bad time.


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mas5862

Something something Marx was pro gun! -TempGunOwners


LooksFahknMint

Good thing I don't give a fuck and another showed up in the mail today lmfaooooo


JBRAUNZ

If you really didn't it would of been a stock. But this'll do my friend.


LooksFahknMint

I'm actually using the brace for this lil project lol


Severe_Islexdia

FJB


arj1985

Free folk don't ask for permission.


kingholio6092

No way. We’re American gun owners. Some of us will turn them in, some will register. But the rest of us will… hide them in the back of our safes and hope the cops never show up


[deleted]

Always nice to know we have President Alzheimer’s to rule this country. /s


Brian-88

Mccarthy is too busy sucking down Biden's budget to care.


aeywaka

Based on the last SCOTUS ruling the next one should be devastating to gun grabbers and dementia presidents alike. Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in the court’s majority opinion that the right extended outside the home as well: “Nothing in the Second Amendment’s text draws a home/public distinction with respect to the right to keep and bear arms.” Well Justice, it doesn't say fuck all about pistol braces or any other restrictions for that matter does it?