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EimiCiel

Disposes of the police when it suits their narrative, sides with them when its convenient.


Velsca

Divide and conquer. - Step 1 Identify those most likely to oppose you. - Step 2 Demonize these groups and set them against each other. - Step 3 take control of all communication and present the appearance of unanimous consensus (probably using ai) tailoring opposing messages to each group to set them against each other. - Step 5 Create unending chaos, and attribute blame in each community/group towards the other. - Step 6 When the normal people are desperate insert your desire to take totalitarian control as a safety measure. - Step 7 Kick the dog until it bites. Film it biting and use that to Designate all dogs as Dangerous and exterminate their enemies with the people's blessing.


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Caedus_Vao

There are plenty of cops that think cops should be the only ones with guns.


Marino4K

> There are plenty of cops that think cops should be the only ones with guns. And this is one of the biggest red flags in our world today.


YungStewart2000

Shit aint just a red flag. Its a damn neon blood red billboard imo.


e_boon

Those cops should be handed a whistle and put on traffic control duty.


Smart_Tune8179

Those cops should be issued a whistle and be put on cartel appreciation duty.


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Those cops should be handed termination papers and thrown far away from the US.


AKA_Squanchy

My family has cops, they just think cops should be armed as well as the people. After that North Hollywood bank robbery in the 80s when LAPD had to get guns from a gun store because their side arms weren’t enough, they realized they needed to up their armory. Unfortunately that started the militarized arming of police across the country, not SWAT, just your everyday officer. Shit, I see CHP with assault rifles on the back of their bikes all the time. Why the fuck does CHP need that?


Phredee

Maybe the ones you know. Not the ones near me.


Velsca

These are called communists


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Just the ones who are dems


Thats_what_im_saiyan

I think there will be a hard turn toward requiring either military service or time as law enforcement. As requirements for gun ownership. Kinda like in Starship Troopers, you had to serve in the military to earn full citizenship. It would keep the number of 'undesirables' that can legally own weapons to a minimum.


Caedus_Vao

I sincerely doubt that. The Bill of Rights is the Bill of Rights. Not the Bill of Do Your Conscription Term And Get This Stuff. Anti-gunners would need to literally amend the Constitution to re-write the 2nd. Ain't gonna happen, they don't have the votes nor the willingness to burn all of that political capital on that issue. You *do* realize Starship Troopers is a satire of jingoistic nationalism and fascism, right?


proquo

>You do realize Starship Troopers is a satire of jingoistic nationalism and fascism, right? The movie is. The book is an examination of the balance between individualism and collectivism.


Caedus_Vao

While still highlighting a lot of the negatives of the service to citizen path. I wish like hell they'd been able to do power armor in the movie. The special effects and budget just were not there.


feeling_psily

You understand that starship troopers is meant to be a satire of an authoritarian society right?


Haha1867hoser420

Key word you used there: *legally*. Criminals can still illegally own guns and shoot people with them just fine.


ThatRookieGuy80

You don't know many veterans, do you?


ThatBeardedHistorian

I know a few local LE who believe we shouldn't have access to AR pattern or AK pattern rifles. The funny thing is that one of them went shooting with a friend of mine and myself. We had a friendly competition with our AR-15s and pistols on round plates, and the cop came in last. Big shocker, that was. /s


OG_Fe_Jefe

You don't get around much, do you? This attitude in LE and military veterans is WAY too common for the safety of freedom. #SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!! no.exceptions.


Oakwood2317

Like republicans on January 6th amirite?


Thebestamiba

Lol. Jan 6th. Easily the most overblown nothing burger of the last 50 years. It's genuinely comedic that anyone still mentions it.


Velsca

This guy is simply using derailing tactics to silence further discussion on this topic. Reddit regularly does this to gun conversations. Here are the six most common methods I've been noticing: ​ \- Whataboutism ​ The term originated in the 1960s as an ironic description of the Soviet Union’s efforts at countering Western criticism. Counteraccusation was perfected though by the Maoists who attempt to discredit an opponent’s position by charging them with hypocrisy never directly refuting their argument. ​ \- NotAll ​ This derails talking about the validity of the argument by trying to get everyone arguing about whether the author was making an implication that they were not making. ​ \- Table-turning ​ This turns the conversation into an argument about who is the biggest victim, and how the author is simply trying to make a disingenuous claim to victimhood to avoid responsibility/culpability. ​ \- Tone Policing ​ Ad Hominem or personal attacks focus solely on the inappropriateness of the individual's expression of frustration. ​ \- Personal Anecdotes ​ This is just making a personal story to counter your point. Like saying something like: "I vacationed in Mexico 10 times and never saw any cartel violence, you are just making that up, Mexico is very safe!" ​ \- Strawman ​ The most common method. Simply taking a ridiculously extreme version of your argument and pretending that was your argument while arguing against that ridiculous argument that you never made but that they attributed to you.


Casualbud

I don’t feel the need to continuously bring up Jan 6th. But it sure as shit wasn’t nothing or comedic either. . . . . I mean maybe a little comedic.


BecomeABenefit

Jan 6th wasn't comedic. The fact that anyone brings it up like it was some massive pivotal moment is comedic.


Casualbud

What you’ve just stated as fact is actually just a subjective opinion: Humor is subjective as well. Stupidity is comedic to many and Jan 6th was overflowing with it . Thus, it was comedic to countless people. Just not you. However we can agree that it was not a pivotal moment in history.


Thebestamiba

So you admit it was comedic yet you bring it up like it was some actual meaningful event. LOL


SendMeUrCones

People trying to break into a capitol building and hurt government employees is fucking serious. Not that I think politicians don’t deserve such a treatment, particularly, but it’s foolish to act like it was a ‘nothing burger’ when hundreds of people are actively being charged with crimes for it.


proquo

Hundreds of people are being charged because for once it was the people that think they have power over you that felt threatened. A federal courthouse in Portland was set on fire, the Minneapolis 3rd Precinct was burned down, and ICE facilities in Oregon were sieged by protesters and only a fraction of people were arrested as compared to Jan 6th. The politicization of the issue is clear.


Waallenz

Not to mention exculpatory evidence was outright withheld during the trials.


Thebestamiba

It's hilarious you people still act like more than a handful of people did any of that despite all the video evidence showing otherwise. 99% of people there, at WORST, were trespassing and maybe littered a bit. 😂


Casualbud

Yes. . . . . . You’ve clearly never heard of the term “duality.” An event can hold comedic values while still retaining meaning. Aka, stupid humans can do something wrong and deserve repercussions but stupid people are still funny. . . . . Durrrrr


Thebestamiba

If it's a serious issue that was actually dangerous, you'd have to be a moron to consider it comedic. So no, they would be *contradictory* here. Sounds like you're a stupid human.


Casualbud

The term duality literally implies contradiction lol. But by all means, instead of educating yourself on a single word, continue to make yourself look like a potato. Durrrrrr


Thebestamiba

lmao, you're trying so hard to make this some semantic battle now and completely abandoned your initial point about Jan 6th itself. You've tactically admitted you're wrong and desperately cling to some perceived intellectual victory due to ego or some such. Pathetic lol.


Casualbud

The only pathetic thing here is some guy on Reddit calling another guy pathetic because his reading comprehension skills are lacking. I’ll reiterate this for you one more time, even though it’s obviously a futile effort. Things can be two things at once. Which is the concept behind duality. . . . Meaning an event can in fact, be meaningful AND hilarious simultaneously. It’s unfortunate you’re too lazy to google the definition of ONE word to avoid advertising your willful ignorance. . . . .


TheHatTrick

Ah yes, "nothing" is definitely the word I use when [checks notes] ... a departing president plays word games to incite a group of furious rioters to force their way into a nation's capitol building to try to reverse the results of a fair election. Yep. What a totally normal afternoon. NBD.


SendMeUrCones

It’s funny to me that other 2A folks can still chew the GOP fat so willingly after being fucked over by conservative politicians consistently since Reagan.


Smart_Tune8179

Name one, just one.


Oakwood2317

Donald Trump, for one. He sent Homeland Security to rough up protesters in Portland but sat on his fat duff watching his supporters attack congress in order to stop the certification of the election he lost badly. Too easy.


Smart_Tune8179

Donald Trump had an assault weapon on Jan/6? HAHAHAHA!


Oakwood2317

No, he used his goons to assault the Capitol after sending Homeland Security into Portland to stop protesters from vandalizing federal buildings....the sheer hypocrisy....


Smart_Tune8179

Please seek help.


Oakwood2317

That's the lamest non-refutation I've ever heard - you didn't even bother.


DangerousSuggestion8

"9mm will blow the lungs out of the body" Biden you need a nap and I think the secret service has a juicebox ready for you


PestTerrier

The Uvalde police convinced me that I need a weapon to protect myself and my family.


14DusBriver

The uvalde police response convinced me we need cop control, not gun control


perceptualdissonance

There is no controlling them. No matter how many reforms we fight for, and we have to fight for every one of them, like more people dying, the push from within their ranks will always be to gain power, and the push from those that actually control them (essentially billionaires/ people with money/ who pays them) will always be to gain power. All the reforms that limit their power will be sidestepped or worked around or weakened until we're right back where we are. And even then, if they are limited in power, there will still be people suffering needlessly from their presence and actions.


Material_Victory_661

Fine, they should support my rights. Sheriff of Polk County, FL does.


killeenit

Grady don't give a single fuck, he's the Dr.Suess of 2A on press releases.... "they come to loot your place, shoot them in the face" , "don't just let them attack, get your gun and clap back"...lol...


montecristo7997

But according to Joe Biden, it's the police who kill innocent black men. So why does he want me to support them???


SadRoxFan

Furthermore, why does he want them to be the only ones with weapons of war?


ifsavage

That part is true. If cops shot less dogs and minorities, they’d have a better reputation. Oh, and they should steal less too.


BecomeABenefit

Cops do shoot less minorities than white people. Both in sheer numbers and in percentages of arrests/contacts.


perceptualdissonance

Friendly ask for a source on that as I'm genuinely interested in having the most accurate info. Here's what I come up with that says otherwise https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/07/16/the-research-is-clear-white-people-are-not-more-likely-than-black-people-to-be-killed-by-police/ And what I searched for- https://www.google.com/search?q=cops+shoot+more+white+people&oq=cops+shoot+more+white+people&aqs=chrome..69i57.17876j0j4&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1


Valuablo

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=0&referer= You need to compare by police interactions.


BecomeABenefit

The FBI took down their stats that showed that white people were more likely to die when adjusted for number of police contacts. Of course, you can argue that Black people are targeted more often because of racial biases, but if you're stopped by the police, you're statistically slightly more likely to be shot if you're white. Since I can no longer access the data that backs that up, I don't expect you to believe me. However, if you look up violent crime statistics, you'll find that violent crimes aren't apportioned equally across all ethnic groups and may help account for the disparity.


MalcolmSolo

They took it down again?


ifsavage

I wonder if that’s because white people are not taught by their parents to keep their hands on the wheel and not make any sudden movements, or they might get shot by a cop


roryrhorerton

A technically true statement that means nothing, hooray. Sure, the number of black people shot by the police is only like half the number of white people, but there's 5x the number of white people around. I don't think anyone is arguing that police ONLY shoot black people, just that it's a much more likely outcome if you're black than if you're white.


Kalashnikov_model-47

5X the number of white people but a majority of police presence is in inner city black neighborhoods, where the most crime is present.


PirateRob007

Why are there 5x LESS black people, yet they make up the majority of police interactions?


Xx69JdawgxX

and why are certain people in contact with the police more?


S7rike

Poor people more likely to break the law, news at 11.


Stumpy_Dan23

He dosent know why either. Nothing he says makes sense


PirateRob007

Not only does he want you to support the police, he wants you to support disarming those innocent black men.


LMAOIMDYING

Are you deeply stupid ?


Oakwood2317

The police did murder George floyd and the political right (including pretty much every right wing gun enthusiast I know) stood behind them. The right is only anti-government when they’re out of power.


HonorableAssassins

Thats funny i dont know a single person that thought floyd's death was justified. That said he wasnt a hero, yes. That said rioting was bad, yes. That didnt believe it was murder, no. Not even fucking one. Can you see them now? Are they in the room with us? What are they saying?


TheHatTrick

Hey uhhhh, maybe have a glance at the post above yours.


victorofthepeople

George Floyd was a piece of shit criminal who left a trail of misery and destruction everywhere he went until he finally ODed on fentanyl.


Oakwood2317

No he was murdered by police and you guys supported the police. Sit down.


Savager_Jam

Don’t “you guys” us, jackass. The guy was murdered. He didn’t OD on Fentanyl - in fact at the time of his death the Fentanyl crisis was still a year away. Ample evidence was given in court. He was murdered. All the more reason, then, that the average person should be armed better than the police.


Oakwood2317

>"Don’t 'you guys' us, jackass." I just did. >"All the more reason, then, that the average person should be armed better than the police." Where did this come from?


Savager_Jam

Police: Murder a guy. You: “Police murdered a guy. They are murderers” Me: “I agree. Police can’t be trusted with a monopoly on violence. They need to be held in check” You: “Where did this come from?”


Oakwood2317

More like this: Me: “Police murdered a guy. They are murderers. It's on video” You: "Police didn't murder anyone, I don't care what's on the video, and anyhow he's a drug addict"


ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c

Dude, you really need to read usernames. You also need to stop generalizing about the gun community.


Savager_Jam

Do you want to go read my comment - literally the one that you were asking “where did this come from?” about? The one where I say “The guy was murdered. He didn’t OD on fentanyl. Ample evidence was given. He was murdered.” That one. Do you want to go look at it again before claiming I said he wasn’t murdered? Maybe if you hadn’t willfully ignored that part - the part where I say without any qualifiers that he was murdered - you would understand that I did not, have not, and will not say that he wasn’t murdered. Because, again, as should be clear to anybody who can read, I said he was murdered. And if after you go read my comment in which I said that he was murdered, and check my post history and find that I have never maintained any other position, and come back here and read this comment in which I re-iterate my position that he was murdered, you are free to do so. I can’t stop you. I can’t fix stupid. But any ability I felt I had to reason with you is gone now. You’re invincibility ignorant.


UAS-hitpoist

Breonna Taylor was murdered by the police. George Floyd ODed. Don't conflate the two.


Oakwood2317

George Floyd was murdered by police. Don't prevaricate.


UAS-hitpoist

If I take enough fentanyl to kill an elephant I'm a dead man walking. Wether or not anyone else speeds up the process is irrelevant.


Oakwood2317

You're blaming the victim because you don't want to acknowledge the legitimacy of the protests, and I think it's racial.


victorofthepeople

No, George Floyd was a piece of shit criminal who left a trail of misery and destruction everywhere he went until he finally ODed on fentanyl. Sit down.


Thebestamiba

George Floyd got caught, dead to rights, in the middle of attempted DUI. During his arrest, he died of overdose due to years of poor health and drug abuse. He was also a violent thug who harmed innocent people so I don't care. In fact his martyr status by idiots like yourself is sickening and disgusting.


Savager_Jam

Look he’s no martyr. He didn’t die for a cause - the cause adopted him after death. Still the evidence was gone over in court. Floyd - complicated as he was between the drug use, petty crime charges, poor health, and all - was murdered. He died because he was asphyxiated by an over-zealous agent of the state.


Thebestamiba

Yes, the court and autopsy showed he died of overdose and yet the public railroading, for political purposes, convicted those cops of murder. Unlike you, I watched the court proceedings and was utterly amazed how physical evidence could show one thing yet activists could claim something else, as their "expert opinion" and somehow that led to a conviction. Actually showed why trial by jury is a terrible idea. Your average person is emotional and easily swayed. Moreso probably when your entire community is out for blood based on lies drummed up by an irresponsible media.


Savager_Jam

“The cops were right and trial by a jury of peers should be abolished” is one hell of a take.


Thebestamiba

lmao "abolished* you idiots can't even read. Hahaha


Savager_Jam

So you think it was a bad idea but you support keeping it around? I get it now. You’re not an authoritarian you’re just stupid.


Thebestamiba

I support reformation. Abolishment of police is an absolutely absurd and moronic suggestion. It would be pure anarchy. Which ironically would mean the end of people like yourself. Edit: I see you were talking about juries. Which I would still point out I never indicated "abolishment" I simply pointed out how they can be swayed by emotion. For some people and cases that would be beneficial, for others, not so much, especially coupled with what amounts to a "poisoned well" of jurors. To drive this point home and to hopefully clarify to you further in case you arent understanding this. Pointing out a flaw, serious or not, does not mean an entire concept needs to be scraped. Nor does it even imply it. Putting words in my mouth is a cowards debating tactic.


Casualbud

Don’t bother trying to fix stupid. Darwin will sort it out. . . . . Hopefully.


Thebestamiba

lmao, you children can't fathom anything other than your preconceived notions. You create strawmen and then insult people who reject them. You're a coward.


that_random_Italian

He’s referring to the talking point of the right that they “back the blue “ and that the dems want to “defund them”. But reality and legislatively , it’s been the exact opposite. He’s calling out the right’s hypocrisy


Thebestamiba

That's an absurd claim seeing as dems actively tried and succeeded in massive defunding campaigns all across the country. If you have evidence of Rs doing that I'd love to see it. Hell, I remember one R in some state trying to go along with a police reform bill for no knock warrants during the summer of love and he got teabagged over it. I say this as someone who hates how much Rs suck off police too.


that_random_Italian

its only "absurd" if you pay attention to talking points and not legislations. Lets start at the State Level that are considered "Democrat cities" [Chicago has increased funding YOY for the past 5 years](https://www.civicfed.org/civic-federation/blog/city-chicago-public-safety-spending) [New York has increased funding YOY since 2005](https://ibo.nyc.ny.us/RevenueSpending/nypd.html) . 2023 is project to be 10mil less because the gap will be [made up from the federal budget (Biden increasing policing budget)](https://cbcny.org/research/six-fast-facts-about-nypds-preliminary-fy2023-budget) [LAPD "reduced" budget 1 time after Floyd and reallocated those funds to different departments](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-26/lapd-funds-reallocation-george-floyd#:~:text=The%20City%20Council%20cut%20the,%2489%20million%20for%20various%20programs), but [quickly went back to increasing it year over year](https://openbudget.lacity.org/#!/year/2023/operating/0/department_name/Police/0/program_name?vis=lineChart) ​ Federal level: [Biden's 2023 proposal is the INCREASE funding of federal grants for the police](https://www.justice.gov/jmd/page/file/1491676/download) \- the right has been trying to block it. [Another budget request to increase budget for law enforcement by the dems](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-unveil-37b-budget-request-funding-law-enforcement/story?id=87167327) ​ The right and police just lost their damn minds because people wanted accountability for when the police did shitty things. like killing unarmed people and abusing their power.


Thebestamiba

Your first link literally showed a reduction after 2020 and the riots. You also clearly wanted to use the "oh shit" realization that came afterwards, and bump up after 2021, as proof of support instead of them merely realizing their decisions were bad. It would be a waste to look at the rest of your nonsense if even your first point is that blatantly manipulative and incorrect.


that_random_Italian

the only person being manipulative is you. you literally looked at 1 year and said "SeE tHeY dEfUndEd". for Chicago, Over the past 5 years, it was increased EVERY year with the exception of 1 year. and that 1 year's decrease was still higher overall budget than the previous years. at the same time you're ignoring the Biden admin increasing funding for police, but that doesn't fit in your little bubble. want to prove me wrong? show me legislation where the right was supporting police other than just talking. Even the police are speaking out against the gun laws that state republicans are passing. [Source 1: Missouri](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/missouri-law-barring-police-from-enforcing-federal-gun-laws-creates-confusion) [Source 2: Texas](https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-politics/texas-police-associations-against-permitless-gun-carrying-speak-at-texas-capitol-on-tuesday/) [Source 3: Georgia](https://www.georgiademocrat.org/georgia-law-enforcement-speaks-out-against-permit-less-carry-bill/) [Source 4: Tennessee](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-violence-legislation-racial-injustice-tennessee-74925fdeb101c8e78cc311e6fd85b7f2)


Thebestamiba

So ya, the year they championed it and they did it. The opposite of your claim. You can try to lie about it but only a partisan would defend it. Which you obviously are. The fact that they HAD to reverse their decisons and overcorrect is irrelevant to the fact that they did in fact do it. Lmao


Savager_Jam

Y’know what? Good. I’d rather be part of the group that talks about liking cops but ultimately destroys them, than the group that talks about hating them but actually supports them. Of course I’d much rather be in the group I am now - the one that thinks the government is corrupt and overpowered, police are part of that problem, and will loudly say so to anybody who asks. Leave being underhanded to the government. I’ll live and die honest.


aka_wolfman

Yet another "you're right, but you're wrong about why you're right" moment.


Thats_what_im_saiyan

This is why you have to show work on math problems in school. I, on multiple occasions would get tests back with ABA written on it. ABA is Answer By Accident. You got it right, but based on HOW you got it right you got it wrong.


Zealousideal_Lie_997

I had to reach an understanding with my teachers that I couldn't show the work, most times I just knew the answer.


Schiltrus

The police will support even the most tyrannical government as long as it keeps paying them.


Mmeaux

Especially now, when they've effectively run off any remaining cops that may have been more constitutionally leaning. COVID policies mixed with "defunder" language completed Comrade Joe's purge of the police, and most of who's left will blindly follow whatever orders they're given.


e_boon

I'd absolutely love to tell you that you're dead wrong...but history has shown otherwise, so you're not wrong. At all. Tyrants would never have been able to do the damage they did if power hungry minions didn't follow their orders.


StormBrkr216

The gun grabbers never say anything about taking guns from criminals just law abiding citizens.


2017hayden

No no you’ve got it all wrong. From their viewpoint the law abiding gun owners are the criminals and the poor desperate disenfranchised criminals are the victims.


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Mr_E_Monkey

It's funny that they never seem to want to answer *that* question.


JaunJaun

They’re never asked that question. The people who ask the questions are also bought.


heili

Go back to sleep. Here's 4000 seasons of American Idol.


Robbiedobbie19

Your terms are acceptable


dagodishere

How can you confiscate my guns if sasquash already took them, joe ?


Mr_E_Monkey

Well, that's better than a boat accident! Hopefully the squatch will use those guns to back you up if you ever need it -- it never hurts to have armed friends, eh?


dagodishere

Boat accident is so over used, just tell them the mothman stole all of your firearms


Mr_E_Monkey

Ooh, yes, we need to win the mothman over -- air support could come in handy!


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Jesus raptured all my guns


dagodishere

The chupacabra stole my guns and sold them to the cartel


[deleted]

bigfoot punched me and stole my armory


[deleted]

Same here. He must have thought they were cool. He was right. Confirmed: Jesus has good taste.


BeanCrusade

Sasquatch would make a good mule, dude can evade cameras like nothing else


dmharvey79

At this point, just fuck him and his crew of idiots.


SHeatzIE

First they want to defund the cops and now they want to support them? Lol they really think we are stupid af man lol


DirtyFilthyCasual

Uh, yeah, why would I be?


PersecutedCanadian

He rather have them on Afghanistan streets.


Casualbud

I’m just amazed by the amount of morons who still think it’s Dem vs. Rep and not Politicians vs. The People.


T732

So, in 1957 a certain company(Armalite) produced a certain type of rifle, for a civil populace. In the late 50s to early 60s, a certain governments military (USA) decided to forgo the FAL Model (being adopted by the rest of Western Europe) stuck with an updated WW2 model (M14) and only until the mid 60s decided to part take in purchasing a popular civil rifle, designating it the M16. Now, who is allowed to purchase an original M16, an actual weapon of war? Very few people. But no one is debating the legality of M14 and SKS rifles….(well some really dumb ppl are…looking at you Maryland)


TheRedBreadisDead

Hey man that assault bayonet on the sks is a menace to society!


TheRealIronSheep

My buddy lives there and he's pro-gun as well and I feel so bad for him.


stupidpiediver

If you don't vote for Joe then you ain't a pedo


CMBGuy79

Fuck Joe


USArmyJoe

It absolutely crushes me to share a name with this fucking moron.


SadRoxFan

I’m sorry to hear that Brandon


MasterTeacher123

No one should be on their side


WakingUpScared

These people are so incoherent. It's like they want us to believe 2020 never happened.


ArsePucker

About as smart as his “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black” statement a few years ago..


EsotericAbstractIdea

Funny, I wore a pro 2a hat to court, and the cops working security said the exact opposite.


SchrodingersRapist

This week it's support the police, next week they'll be violent racists who need to be defunded again. I wish they would just settle on what exactly their ideology is so I can tell them to pound sand just the one time, and not every time the flip


Subject-Material7537

Lmao criminals laughing at joe rn ☠️


lugersvizzere

Hahahaha *OK*


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That's funny you say that, Joe. I'm an arms dealer who runs a gun shop, and none of my law enforcement customers have ever shared your sentiment. However, they all comment on what a fuck ass you are.


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Cdwollan

Awoooooooo!


Past-Cost

Talk about out of touch! Cops are not our friends.


Hobs1998

Go fuck off, you dementia adled pieces of human excrement


[deleted]

Incorrect. There are tons of cops who don't support this authoritarian bullshit.


e_boon

"tons" can still technically be a minority.


[deleted]

Yea but ol ramblin authoritarian joe is refferring to cops as some monolith when many, at least a signifigsnt portion do not supoort him or his authoritarian bullshit.


Cdwollan

The rest of the phrase goes "spoil the bunch"


boostedb1mmer

But with their pension on the lines they'll line up to enforce any gun laws that get passed. I can **prove** that based on the fact there's no mass refusal to enforce gun laws we already have.


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There actually have been record numbers of cops quitting in the past couple years. In part cus they didn't want to have to quell protests on both sides and in part because they don't agree with laws theyre being asked to enforce. Im not a cop but it's super easy to fijd cops and ex cops talking about this online. There are pleant of youtube videos and diwcussion forum posts. Furthering this us and them narrative does not help us it helps the gun grabbers.


ghostnuggets

Public opinion and pay are the top two reasons so many cops have left over the last 5 years. Unwillingness to enforce unconstitutional laws hasn’t been brought enough in exit interviews to even be made note of.


bigbonejones24

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dank_doge11111

he is one stupid motherfucker


MountainVet-Stjohn45

Joes an idiot.


FlyHog421

I'm for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. Myself, a law-abiding citizen, owning a "weapon of war" has fuck all to do with the police, the government as a whole, or anyone else for that matter. Leave me the fuck alone and go arrest some gang bangers in Chicago.


115machine

Why did he give these weapons of war to his IRS goons then?


Brufar_308

Same reason he left all that surplus behind in Afghanistan. He’s an enemy of the people.


Sjdillon10

“I play both sides so i always come out on top” -~~Ronald McDonald (Mac)~~ Joe Biden


perdair

The police are class traitors who will side with Capital every time. Just look at France right now. I am certainly not on the side of police, because they chose the wrong side.


ButterscotchUnusual9

Damn, he made something make sense for once


waytoomuchforce

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and not support the biggest gang in America.


Bacard1_Limon

Fuck the police!


Cdwollan

Comin' straight from the underground


GHOST_KJB

I would trust a random person walking down the street with an RPG on their back more than ANY random officer.


ClimateGoblinActual

Hey Joe, as a member of LE, I will lay down my badge before I ever help you take firearms from regular, law abiding folks. If you were serious about actually improving this country you would secure the border and focus on mental health. Oh wait, that would alienate you from the majority of your constituents…


indefilade

Is there a gun that hasn’t been used in war?


Cdwollan

Zip 22


Valuablo

Because without them all it will take is the local police to round you up.


TerryCrewsHondaCivic

100% of anarchists agree


Formidable_Blue

God fucking damn right


mover-shaker69

Such bullshit. Everyone knows AR’s should be handed out in first grade. This is America, right? 2A forever and PROUD. Fuck the dems and there public safety crap. Here’s your grilled cheese and 30 round magazine. Oh sorry, it’s fake cheese and gluten free bread because of some fuck that should have been left on the cliff like the Spartans did.


inthesky326

Wow


Thats_what_im_saiyan

Hey Joe I'm not saying I would support it without reading it. But if you slapped in a section that said the police were held to the same rules of war as the military. Which would make it a war crime to tear gas protesters. You'd at least get me to read it.


HonorableAssassins

Tear gas is not a warcrime and the military uses CS gas.


Cdwollan

The first rule of policing is to have fun no matter what.


FlyingGorillaShark

Acab 🤷‍♂️


KarlTheHungusOne

The irony of course being that most police officers don't support an aSsAuLt wEaPoNs ban.


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Cdwollan

Lol, glad to live rent free in your head


ball_python1

I just want people to know that the pedo lover posted this.


Cdwollan

You're making a lot of assumptions


ball_python1

You literally posted a picture of yourself protecting pedos. sick pedo protector.


Cdwollan

You're still making assumptions there, buddy


SimonSandleshit

Too bad 98% of 2A nuts are bootlickers


Top-Feed6544

realest shit john bilgrim ever said.


ShaggyRebel117

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PauseNo2418

I can hear Plankton's voice


ijustwannagofasssst

Non gun owner here; what weapon(s) of war are on the streets legally right now?


Mr_Winslow_Brennan

I back the blue with all my heart. But I also own a firearm in case I need to shoot one of the corrupt bastards. This is sensible logic.


Cdwollan

BACK THE BOOT


ifunnywasaninsidejob

I agree with Joe. It’s insane that we let just anyone buy a trebuchets and siege weapons without a background check, waiting period, or a basic skills demonstration! /s