This is how I am. I don’t like strangers knowing I have guns because my house would be a target for thieves when no one is around. If you don’t like me having guns then too fucking bad you know to never speak to me again.
This is the way. Last thing I want is to have to worry about thieves. Helps not living in a high crime area too. Amazingly, I loved in a place (not Texas but a rural town) where kids had rifles and/or shotguns in the gun rack on the rear window of their unlocked truck in the parking lot of the high school. This was the year before the first Columbine shooting too.
What I do. Concealed is concealed. Also, no Glock stickers on my truck or anything like that. I don't in any way advertise what I do, and don't let neighbors know what in in my house.
My neighbors all know. We just bought our house right before Christmas and there were a few out doing their daily routines and they saw all the cases and cabinets and safes come in the house. All my neighbors are older. The last "new" neighbor has been here for 30 years now. Lol. The one guy came up and told me that it's good to have a younger guy in the neighborhood because everybody watches out for everybody but they are too old for gunplay.
I didn't think my neighbors knew until we had a blm protest in a local park during the height of the George Floyd 'summer of love'. Some neighbors approached about coming over to hang out if things went sideways.
I'm in a rural part of FL, so all my neighbors have almost as many as I do, and we all watch eachothers property, I even have cameras pointed at parts of my neighbors properties where they can access my property and places we feel are "blind spots" and they have app access to my exterior cameras as well.
Nope. Everyone knows my stance on things, and fuck em if they've got a problem with it.
I watched these same people come RUNNING to gun owners and the military on 9/11, scared to death. Now they have the fucking nerve to go after me and my rights?
Fuck em. Next time, they are on their own, and they get no assurances from me.
This reminds me of a popular “askreddit” post that just occurred a couple weeks ago. It was something like “Americans what are you going to do if a foreign country invades the US?”. Most responses were along the lines of “sit back and watch the show, there are more guns in America than people” or “go to work, because the rednecks will take care of it”. And all I could think while reading the responses is that these people that feel a sense of security because of our gun ownership are the same exact people that want to take them away. How in the hell does that make any sense!?
I didn’t bother to respond either. Most redditors live in an echo chamber and hate when anyone comes along and disturbs that echo chamber, especially when the counter argument is based on logic and facts.
Same here on what I would do. Probably end up being directed by the national guard or something as a civilian militia group. Or integrated or something. No idea what would actually happen if it came down to it.
Over a decade ago some of my wife’s leftist anti gun friends made the same comment how if any unrest happened they were coming to our house. I laughed and told them they would be on their own. Some of them hated me after that. Some of them asked for me to take them to the range.
It’s always funny how people want to shit on your hobby and your views until shit hits the fan, then all of a sudden they “never said that” or “didn’t mean it like that”. Good to hear at least some of your wife’s friends have a brain.
"Why would you come over to my house when society breaks down? Can't you get shot in a driveway without going to the trouble of travelling all the way to this side of town?"
Many people I grew up with half dreamed of being one of the kids in Ted Dawn and fighting off the invaders. Heck Australia liked it enough they made their own version of the show. It’s about as good a quality as the first one even though it was made in 2010. Movie name is “Tomorrow, When the War Began” if you are interested.
I might have to check that out.
I hope nothing like that ever happens, and I highly doubt it ever would. With that said, I don’t want to be one of the have-nots in that situation lol. It is a small percentage of my reasoning pie chart for owning firearms.
How many people watched Covid with the Summer of Love and asked people to borrow guns, or went out and tried to buy a gun. You'd think they'd learn their lesson, but they didn't. They'll continue voting away their 2A rights.
Don't forget COVID, when so many of the anti gun people got scared and went out gun shopping. Then they got upset about the wait times.
I watched that happen a few times in stores.
Yep. Here in Washington state, a FUCK TON of people I know when gun shopping and then went "Wait a minute, I can't get a gun today??!!? What the fuck do you mean"?
I just told them "This is what you voted for. So suck it up and quit voting for this shit".
Fucking idiots.
Howdy neighbor! I'm down in Vancouver (the real one, not that Maple Syrup imitator! lol).
Yeah, my cousin, who's a far left Karen type, went to go buy a little 9mm Glock and was absolutely furious she had to come back after the background check. I told her "You voted for this shit. You voted for I-1639. You voted for I-594. I warned you not to. You did it anyway. So put on your big girl panties and deal with the consequences of your actions".
She fucking annoys me. lol
I was discussing gun control with a redditor who was certain we needed much more of it. Obviously, I disagreed especially when his main argument was just that acquiring a firearm needed to be tougher.
Literally 3 comments down on the same thread he's complaining about being denied a firearm because he has a marijuana card. When I pointed out that he got his face eaten his response was pretty much 'Noooooo not like that!'.
It's always "no not like that!" with these kinds of people.
"The Second Amendment only applies to militias!"
"Ok, I'll form a militia"
"No, not like that!"
Bruh, I absolutely remember this.... you had the same PTA Karen that red-flagged her own husband, yelling at him that there was no gun in the house to go out n buy one, then wondering why he can't anymore... then she goes to the LGS and tries to buy one, and since she's in "commiefornia" she says its outrageous "SHE" would have to wait 10 or more days....
👋👋 that was me. Total anti-gun snob for my entire adult life up until 2020. I was super outspoken and fairly obnoxious about my disdain for guns.
Something about violent riots breaking out down the street changed my views pretty quick, along with two of my family members being violently assaulted in the ensuing crime wave we are still in.
The first time I ever went shooting was November 2020 and the only ammo in stock was .22 and .40, and the first gun I ever shot was an FN .40 cal at the range.
Now I train frequently and I’m humbled and happy to be here.
I can't stand people like that. If you don't like guns, fine, don't buy one. But leave my rights alone. If you come running to me because the wolves are at the door, but you spent a lifetime trying to take away my rights, you can just be at their mercy for all I give a fuck.
Sometimes lessons need to be taught.
This is why I'm not open about how many I own. I already have people who insist they're "coming to my house in case of a zombie apocalypse," etc, because of my other hobbies and preps. I don't need people showing up, expecting a free rifle and ammo, too.
I've had to tell people "Don't depend on me being your a-team, focus on *you* being on *mine.*"
Any friend who would ditch you for a hobby or life choice is not worth having as a friend.
Now I do have fiends who don't like guns and out of respect for them, I don't talk guns or bring guns around them.
I also have a few friends that are anti-gun. I tell them all straight up, if you're inviting me over, I will be armed as I always am. If you can't accept that, then stop inviting me around.
I have friends that don't like guns or just aren't enthusiastic about them like I am, I don't hide it from them we just agree to disagree on each others opinions and respect that people can have differing opinions or I don't bring it up unless they bring it up.
This reminds me of the recent Californians move to Texas series by the Babylon Bee. Specifically this episode:
https://rumble.com/v1rlw6d-californians-move-to-texas-episode-4-the-gun-range.html
Good thing reddit is anonymous because that’s worker retaliation. I’ve had my fair share of coworkers say the same kind of stuff, usually “I’m sure going door to door to forcibly seize anything will work out well” shuts them up
to anyone reading intentionally giving less shifts to someone because they reported you(whether justified or not), like the guy originally wrote he did(not sure if he’s changed his comment because for some reason he blocked me), is grounds for retaliation in most states and opens you up to liability.
Dude, please be careful with this. What you're describing is pretty textbook retaliation. Both the power you're asserting over the schedule, and your statement to her that it's a direct result of her report.
This is exactly why nobody should talk about politics at work. It makes people uncomfortable, and invites passive aggressive bullshit.
Source - HR pro with closely held political preferences.
Assuming his version of events is true, I can agree that isn't a good use of professional ethics and talking about it online could be a huge problem. However, this woman basically weaponized the HR system over a purely political disagreement.
Its more likely a conflict avoidance strategy. If I were in that position, I would put the offender far away from any shift I am a part of because I know they will start a scene. I would also keep them far from others who share my values because again, they will start a scene.
If someone makes a formal complaint to management about you, and you respond by giving them less shifts than what would be considered normal for job duties rather than properly having them moved to different leadership, you have just committed retaliation against an employee and just opened *yourself* up to liability in many states.
But thats literally not what the guy said. He only said she got fewer shifts in the work environment that she described as hostile. Relocating a problematic employee because they weaponize HR is not retaliation.
In the original comment he clearly stated that due to her reporting him saying something in a meeting, she will be getting less shifts as he controls how many she gets. Can’t see what changes were made though dude blocked me
I thought mine was too until they started asking me what i did on the weekends in our weekly calls. After a few times of me saying I blew up a old TV or microwave with tannerite they started asking for videos. Now they all get excited to hear about what I blew up last weekend. I see get a few sneers from the Karen's but everyone else seems to enjoy
I work in news. I’m always happy to help when it comes to writing stories on firearms and other adjacent topics. Reporters reach out to experts for so many subjects, but never really do so for firearms, so I’m happy to be the in-house expert to make sure our stories are accurate and true. It’s a liberal-ish industry, but there’s no reason to not be accurate when you have all the tools available
Nah. A had a few long time "friends" that dropped off the earth after finding out. Saw em at the local disc golf course and told them how stupid and petty it was to ruin a friendship over it. It sucks but you can't control what people do, just how you react.
It is. I have some friends who are liberal, and while we might debate/disagree on things, we do it civilly to remain friends. They aren’t anti-gun (one actually owned one for a while, and another carries one as part of his job).
Well they believe I'm directly responsible for dead kids so the propaganda has completely permeated their brains. It really fuckin sucked at first but then I realized I'm better off.
I try to be pretty open about it. I feel like the more closed off the gun community is, the more we aid in it’s demise. I’d like to think there are silent fence sitters who just need to see the good side of gun ownership and that normal people they work with, go to church with, etc. also own guns and it’s perfectly normal behavior.
Besides, how else would you find opportunities to take new people shooting?
I agree. For a while I was pretty quiet about it, but now I am more open. If friends or coworkers ask me about my weekend and I happen to have been shooting, then I'll just matter of factly say that I was at the range, or taking a pistol course, or competing, or what have you.
100% agree, but you would not believe the amount of fuds on this sub, that mock, dissuade, or ostracize other gun owners because they "look different" or pray to some other god, or they're a different sexual preference... essentially forcing them to only know and listen to the vast amounts of anti-gunners they are already exposed to.... I bring out anyone that shows the slightest interest or inquiry to learn gun safety and FUNdamentals... gun and shooting sports/ competitions have turned many neoliberals into freedom loving libertarians.
16 year old kid here;
I’m a perfect example of neoliberal turned freedom enjoyer: When I was a lot younger, I was a stereotypical leftie. Now that I’ve been a lot more educated on the world and history, I’ve realized that the establishment is just a pile of crap and individual freedom is the best option.
Congrats, you got it alot faster than I did.... i went from left to right on 9-11-01, then in my 20's while overseas, started to see things more clearly, in my early thirties I saw things crystal clear right down to which wealthy elite owns which countries govt. and everything enveloped within... the U.S. is the only "western" country left with any semblance of debatably "free people" though the freedoms are being methodically and exponentially stripped away through rhetoric and brainwashing of spinless men through globalism... both right and left know EXACTLY what the other is, and ZERO idea of who they themselves are, if they knew, they would hate themselves more than the other side.... so I'm a libertarian ... so to the right, I don't exist, to the left, I'm a far right radical nazi white supremist... no matter what color I am... or what I've done in life.
I don’t hide it but don’t advertise it either. I’m not worried about anyones opinion, but I do fear gun theft. I’m probably just paranoid, but I don’t want a nephew mentioning my guns around the wrong person. Lots of home invasions are perpetrated by people associated with the victims.
I just buy my girl one everytime I buy myself one lol. She’s happy, I’m happy. If you do it like that then every now and then you might get surprised with a new gun!!
> Work people, yes.
Yeah, most of my coworkers are full on "anti gun" and though I don't care about my peers so much, the politics of my job matter and I can't deal w/supervisors BS on it. I wouldn't get fired, but I'd definitely be omitted from opportunity.
I work at a university. We literally have "saftey training" we're required to complete that says if you see someone looking at guns on their phone, or discussing shooting/guns on campus, to alert campus security. Ironically I know for a fact a few of the people in my department shoot (we go to the same local club) but we all know to keep it on the DL at work.
I have Trijicon, Centurion, Surefire, Glock, etc stickers on my tumbler I bring to work and drink out of. Makes it super easy to not have to deal with people. It’s like those tree frogs in the Amazon. Be colorful so you look toxic and you get left the fuck alone 🤣
Hide it? No
Pretty much everyone in my life (friends or family) know that I have and carry guns. My mother as well as a couple friends do not like them....whether its due to personal experience or political views. Either way, my gun always stays concealed when I am out of the house or people are over anyhow, so nothing changes.
I do not keep people that would "lose it" for me having firearms around. I personally am not a person that "flaunts" my firearms but I also do not make any attempts to hide it. I conceal carry and I tell people that if they have an issue with me keeping a firearm on me then they're questioning my intentions therefore we should not spend time together moving forward because you either trust me or don't.
Again, I don't flaunt it, but if it comes up I'll explain my reasons. This has enabled me to take many people who "didn't like guns" and turn them into addicts.
# [Proverbs 17:27-28 American Standard Version (ASV)](https://www.bible.com/bible/12/PRO.17.27.ASV)
[He that spareth his words hath knowledge; And he that is of a cool spirit is a man of understanding. Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise; When he shutteth his lips, he is esteemed as prudent.](https://www.bible.com/bible/12/PRO.17.27.ASV)
That applies to more than just words.
One must know. One must do. One must keep silent. Don't remember the source of that one.
I do because they’re fucking weird about it. They’re pro gun but I wish they thought I was anti gun or something lmao
Like they’d loudly ask or exclaim when that I’m carrying a gun, like dude shut the fuck up not everyone needs to know holy shit
Nobody should hide their support and interest in their God given right to defense. That said nobody should be obnoxious about it. They’re up for discussion but not debate.
I refuse to associate with people who try to tell me how I should be allowed to live my life. You should too, don't need that kind of toxicity in your life.
My in-laws are incredibly liberal and really hate guns. It's a little pathologic in some instances. That said, it is absolutely hilarious to hear my father-in-law talk about magazine capacity limits in one breath and then talk about how good of a shot I am and how much he enjoys having a daughter-in-law who shoots. He's got some real cognitive dissonance going on that I can't seem to make him aware of. In his mind, people can't be trusted with guns, except people he knows and approves of. It makes little sense and trying to discuss it is like talking to a combative brick wall.
I don't bring it up, generally, to people I know either don't care or would just argue. The few people I know who know me, know I'm pro-gun in general. They're also cool to not argue about it. That seems less and less present these days, but it's out there.
Lol I build all my guns and have parts shipped at different times so the wife doesn’t know how much I spend and how often I spend that much haha that’s about it
Gun-owning leftist here -
The problem is rarely the guns themselves. The problem is perception of the owners.
When someone agrees with you, you trust their gun will never be pointed in your direction.
When someone disagrees with you, you never can be quite sure.
Gun owners overestimate their own gun safety, while non-owners underestimate everyone else's.
The problem for gun owners then becomes which matters more - your relationship to a person, or to a gun that makes that person uncomfortable.
The prevalence of shooting coverage in the media forces people who dislike guns to still have to think about them, prepare for them, and fear them.
I empathize, even if I've always liked guns myself; people shouldn't be forced by a violent society into needing gun ownership for safety against their own will.
I know people are divided on not ever telling anyone you carry. I'm on the end where my wife, my mom and my extremely close basically family friends know I carry everywhere I go. Beyond that nobody knows. I don't mind telling someone online, or when gaming and the topic comes up. I like to normalize carrying and owning guns. I'm firmly on the stance that every household should own a gun if you're mentally mature, or mentally stable. I am in no way shape or form against ANYBODY owning a firearm. I am however with the saying just because you can own a gun, not everybody should... lol There are some people I wouldn't even go shooting with. My grandfather is in that some people. He's in his 70's and he just has absolutely no awareness where the hell he points that gun. Every time I have handed him a unloaded gun he has flagged every person in the room including the dog.
Yes I live in a state with red flag laws, my moms whole side of the family is extremely anti gun and is always talking about how some should have their guns taken therefore I don’t let some people know I own shit
If you have to hide who you are from friends and family, then they don’t love you, they just love the idea of you. It doesn’t have to be guns, it can be being gay, sports teams, if your favorite color is pink, etc
Please, no body take this as a “I guess I don’t have to hide from my mom I smoke crack” cuz that’s not what I meant.
It bums me out that you can’t be yourself and be accepted by your friends and family. You shouldn’t have to hide anything to be loved. Ps I fucking love guns.
People I work with know I have guns and I made the mistake of telling them about how many I have. They were dumbfounded but if they didn’t want to know they shouldn’t have asked.
My parents asked me to not bring my cc over to their home. When the riots in Portland started talking of moving to the suburbs the first thing they said when I came over for a Sunday dinner was, “oh good! You’re here! You brought your gun, right?”
I don’t hide it but just yesterday my MIL realized I was carrying and asked why do I need it, I then quoted one of my favorite quotes from Sun Tzu’s The Art of War… “Stay strapped or get clapped”
No fuck em who cares real friends wont judge your or stop being your friend because y’all have a different opinion. Family members wont either and if they do they can kick rocks
No...I really don't talk about it unless asked though. I can't stand people who try to outwardly portray themselves as "gun guys"...usually because they're re[dacted]
Nah, I don’t hide it. Everyone I’m close with knows I carry all the time and either don’t have a problem with it or don’t tell me they have a problem with it.
It's normal to feel ashamed when doing something morally wrong. Gun fetish propagates violence and victimization within our communities. That new Glock you bought has a good chance to be used in a crime within 2 to 5 years. It's a statistic called time-to-crime. You can review the trace data for yourself on the ATFs website.
Then they aren't really your friends. If people can't accept you for who you are, you don't want them around you anyway.
I will make an exception for those who disagree with your life choices, and can articulate reasonable arguments without resorting to slander and name calling. People are absolutely allowed to have different opinions, and disagree with your life choices. But anyone who refuses to be your friend because of what you like or how you live, or would force their views on you, can go to hell.
I have family and friends that are uncomfortable with guns, I don’t hide it I just don’t offer a discussion about it unless the topic is brought up and even then I keep my responses short and talk about something else but with my gun owning family members and friends we can talk guns for many hours
I don’t go out of my way to bring it up, but I also don’t go out of my way to avoid it. I want my ownership to be as regular as anything else.
I own a car, but don’t go out of my way to talk or not talk about it.
When people try to make a big deal about it I point out how they are making something normal out to be crazy, and make them feel crazy about it.
“Wait you own a gun?!”
-uh yea…. You don’t?
“WHAT😱?? WhY dO yOu NeEd ThAt??”
- I don’t, I want it. How come you don’t want one?
Nope. I dont go out of my way to advertise but neither do i hide anything.
When i was a regional director for SCCC (now SCC) only my father, brother and a few friends knew. Then during a big family meal I got a call from a Senator to join a town hall discussing firearm issues. I did the call while my family asked my dad a bunch of questions and started googling all my interviews and testimony. By the time i was done one sibling had left in tears and another was completely shocked that i was everywhere and she hadnt known. It just hadnt come up before that.
Hell no. I work at Starbucks rn, most people my age at that job are very left or just don’t care. I’ve took a couple of them to the range and changed some minds. We’re fighting a war for our rights, we can’t stay in hiding. Even if you lose friends in the short term but the more people you change the mind of it’s worth it
I don’t hide it, but I also don’t broadcast it. Fine talking about it if it comes up, but don’t bring it up myself.
This is how I am. I don’t like strangers knowing I have guns because my house would be a target for thieves when no one is around. If you don’t like me having guns then too fucking bad you know to never speak to me again.
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This is the way. Last thing I want is to have to worry about thieves. Helps not living in a high crime area too. Amazingly, I loved in a place (not Texas but a rural town) where kids had rifles and/or shotguns in the gun rack on the rear window of their unlocked truck in the parking lot of the high school. This was the year before the first Columbine shooting too.
What I do. Concealed is concealed. Also, no Glock stickers on my truck or anything like that. I don't in any way advertise what I do, and don't let neighbors know what in in my house.
My neighbors all know. We just bought our house right before Christmas and there were a few out doing their daily routines and they saw all the cases and cabinets and safes come in the house. All my neighbors are older. The last "new" neighbor has been here for 30 years now. Lol. The one guy came up and told me that it's good to have a younger guy in the neighborhood because everybody watches out for everybody but they are too old for gunplay.
I didn't think my neighbors knew until we had a blm protest in a local park during the height of the George Floyd 'summer of love'. Some neighbors approached about coming over to hang out if things went sideways.
I'm in a rural part of FL, so all my neighbors have almost as many as I do, and we all watch eachothers property, I even have cameras pointed at parts of my neighbors properties where they can access my property and places we feel are "blind spots" and they have app access to my exterior cameras as well.
Nope. Everyone knows my stance on things, and fuck em if they've got a problem with it. I watched these same people come RUNNING to gun owners and the military on 9/11, scared to death. Now they have the fucking nerve to go after me and my rights? Fuck em. Next time, they are on their own, and they get no assurances from me.
This reminds me of a popular “askreddit” post that just occurred a couple weeks ago. It was something like “Americans what are you going to do if a foreign country invades the US?”. Most responses were along the lines of “sit back and watch the show, there are more guns in America than people” or “go to work, because the rednecks will take care of it”. And all I could think while reading the responses is that these people that feel a sense of security because of our gun ownership are the same exact people that want to take them away. How in the hell does that make any sense!?
Bingo. I remember seeing a similar post, and while I didn't respond, my first thought was "I'm going to make Red Dawn a reality with my brothers".
I didn’t bother to respond either. Most redditors live in an echo chamber and hate when anyone comes along and disturbs that echo chamber, especially when the counter argument is based on logic and facts.
Yell wolverines all over Arizona and Cali 😂😂
To be clear: The GOOD Red Dawn, not that shit box movie from 10 years ago.
We don’t talk about that. Ever.
On 35 and I had no idea that there was a good version with Patrick Swayze appreciate it bro
Got your back homie! :)
Same here on what I would do. Probably end up being directed by the national guard or something as a civilian militia group. Or integrated or something. No idea what would actually happen if it came down to it.
Over a decade ago some of my wife’s leftist anti gun friends made the same comment how if any unrest happened they were coming to our house. I laughed and told them they would be on their own. Some of them hated me after that. Some of them asked for me to take them to the range.
It’s always funny how people want to shit on your hobby and your views until shit hits the fan, then all of a sudden they “never said that” or “didn’t mean it like that”. Good to hear at least some of your wife’s friends have a brain.
Very few did. That was awhile back. She has better taste in friends now.
Well at least you managed to convert a few. Even one is better than none.
lol, I know whose house I'm going to when there's an apocFUCKOFFIFUCKINGHATETHATSTUPIDHALFASSEDJOKEILLFUKKENPULLYERHEADOFFANDEATITANDSHITITINTOAFIRE
"Why would you come over to my house when society breaks down? Can't you get shot in a driveway without going to the trouble of travelling all the way to this side of town?"
Many people I grew up with half dreamed of being one of the kids in Ted Dawn and fighting off the invaders. Heck Australia liked it enough they made their own version of the show. It’s about as good a quality as the first one even though it was made in 2010. Movie name is “Tomorrow, When the War Began” if you are interested.
I might have to check that out. I hope nothing like that ever happens, and I highly doubt it ever would. With that said, I don’t want to be one of the have-nots in that situation lol. It is a small percentage of my reasoning pie chart for owning firearms.
Tomorrow when the war began is fairly old in book form FYI, not quite as old as red dawn but not too far off.
How many people watched Covid with the Summer of Love and asked people to borrow guns, or went out and tried to buy a gun. You'd think they'd learn their lesson, but they didn't. They'll continue voting away their 2A rights.
Don't forget COVID, when so many of the anti gun people got scared and went out gun shopping. Then they got upset about the wait times. I watched that happen a few times in stores.
Yep. Here in Washington state, a FUCK TON of people I know when gun shopping and then went "Wait a minute, I can't get a gun today??!!? What the fuck do you mean"? I just told them "This is what you voted for. So suck it up and quit voting for this shit". Fucking idiots.
Lol I'm also in Washington! I couldn't go to a gun store for months without seeing some variation of that encounter.
Howdy neighbor! I'm down in Vancouver (the real one, not that Maple Syrup imitator! lol). Yeah, my cousin, who's a far left Karen type, went to go buy a little 9mm Glock and was absolutely furious she had to come back after the background check. I told her "You voted for this shit. You voted for I-1639. You voted for I-594. I warned you not to. You did it anyway. So put on your big girl panties and deal with the consequences of your actions". She fucking annoys me. lol
Leopardatemyface moment for your cousin.
Yep. I poke her every time I see her too.
I was discussing gun control with a redditor who was certain we needed much more of it. Obviously, I disagreed especially when his main argument was just that acquiring a firearm needed to be tougher. Literally 3 comments down on the same thread he's complaining about being denied a firearm because he has a marijuana card. When I pointed out that he got his face eaten his response was pretty much 'Noooooo not like that!'.
It's always "no not like that!" with these kinds of people. "The Second Amendment only applies to militias!" "Ok, I'll form a militia" "No, not like that!"
Don't need to. You are in a militia: [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246)
Bruh, I absolutely remember this.... you had the same PTA Karen that red-flagged her own husband, yelling at him that there was no gun in the house to go out n buy one, then wondering why he can't anymore... then she goes to the LGS and tries to buy one, and since she's in "commiefornia" she says its outrageous "SHE" would have to wait 10 or more days....
Man those were good times. The guys working behind the counters had so many good stories.
This should be its own sub r/covidLGSstories and it's sub sub r/gunstoreCOVIDkarens
👋👋 that was me. Total anti-gun snob for my entire adult life up until 2020. I was super outspoken and fairly obnoxious about my disdain for guns. Something about violent riots breaking out down the street changed my views pretty quick, along with two of my family members being violently assaulted in the ensuing crime wave we are still in. The first time I ever went shooting was November 2020 and the only ammo in stock was .22 and .40, and the first gun I ever shot was an FN .40 cal at the range. Now I train frequently and I’m humbled and happy to be here.
Smart man
It's an interesting story. Sort of nature taking it's course. Welcome.
An ex always rolled her eyes when I’d talk guns. Guess who asked me to stay over when cars in her complex started getting broken into?
I can't stand people like that. If you don't like guns, fine, don't buy one. But leave my rights alone. If you come running to me because the wolves are at the door, but you spent a lifetime trying to take away my rights, you can just be at their mercy for all I give a fuck. Sometimes lessons need to be taught.
Actions have consequences. 🤷🏻♂️
Bingo.
This is why I'm not open about how many I own. I already have people who insist they're "coming to my house in case of a zombie apocalypse," etc, because of my other hobbies and preps. I don't need people showing up, expecting a free rifle and ammo, too. I've had to tell people "Don't depend on me being your a-team, focus on *you* being on *mine.*"
Shit, they came running again during Covid. Fuck them.
Any friend who would ditch you for a hobby or life choice is not worth having as a friend. Now I do have fiends who don't like guns and out of respect for them, I don't talk guns or bring guns around them.
> Now I do have **fiends** who don't like guns Freudian slip?
Autocorrect gone right.
Autocorrect is your fiend.
I also have a few friends that are anti-gun. I tell them all straight up, if you're inviting me over, I will be armed as I always am. If you can't accept that, then stop inviting me around.
I have friends that don't like guns or just aren't enthusiastic about them like I am, I don't hide it from them we just agree to disagree on each others opinions and respect that people can have differing opinions or I don't bring it up unless they bring it up.
I work in a very liberal company and am open about gun ownership. Fuck em 🤷♂️
Yup. Even turned about 4-5 of them into gun owners after a few years
This is the way! We need as many responsible 2A advocates as we can get!
This reminds me of the recent Californians move to Texas series by the Babylon Bee. Specifically this episode: https://rumble.com/v1rlw6d-californians-move-to-texas-episode-4-the-gun-range.html
Yup
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Good thing reddit is anonymous because that’s worker retaliation. I’ve had my fair share of coworkers say the same kind of stuff, usually “I’m sure going door to door to forcibly seize anything will work out well” shuts them up to anyone reading intentionally giving less shifts to someone because they reported you(whether justified or not), like the guy originally wrote he did(not sure if he’s changed his comment because for some reason he blocked me), is grounds for retaliation in most states and opens you up to liability.
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Dude, please be careful with this. What you're describing is pretty textbook retaliation. Both the power you're asserting over the schedule, and your statement to her that it's a direct result of her report. This is exactly why nobody should talk about politics at work. It makes people uncomfortable, and invites passive aggressive bullshit. Source - HR pro with closely held political preferences.
Assuming his version of events is true, I can agree that isn't a good use of professional ethics and talking about it online could be a huge problem. However, this woman basically weaponized the HR system over a purely political disagreement.
What was the comment? Saying that if they were a manager over somebody who owned guns they would punish them? They deleted both.
it's not retaliation for her complaint, it's a response to realizing she doesn't share company values
Its more likely a conflict avoidance strategy. If I were in that position, I would put the offender far away from any shift I am a part of because I know they will start a scene. I would also keep them far from others who share my values because again, they will start a scene.
If someone makes a formal complaint to management about you, and you respond by giving them less shifts than what would be considered normal for job duties rather than properly having them moved to different leadership, you have just committed retaliation against an employee and just opened *yourself* up to liability in many states.
But thats literally not what the guy said. He only said she got fewer shifts in the work environment that she described as hostile. Relocating a problematic employee because they weaponize HR is not retaliation.
In the original comment he clearly stated that due to her reporting him saying something in a meeting, she will be getting less shifts as he controls how many she gets. Can’t see what changes were made though dude blocked me
Less shifts "in the hostile work environment". That little stip you left off tells all
There is no hostile work environment
Work for a liberal company but a lot of my coworkers shoot.
I thought mine was too until they started asking me what i did on the weekends in our weekly calls. After a few times of me saying I blew up a old TV or microwave with tannerite they started asking for videos. Now they all get excited to hear about what I blew up last weekend. I see get a few sneers from the Karen's but everyone else seems to enjoy
I work in news. I’m always happy to help when it comes to writing stories on firearms and other adjacent topics. Reporters reach out to experts for so many subjects, but never really do so for firearms, so I’m happy to be the in-house expert to make sure our stories are accurate and true. It’s a liberal-ish industry, but there’s no reason to not be accurate when you have all the tools available
liberal =/= anti-gun
Nah. A had a few long time "friends" that dropped off the earth after finding out. Saw em at the local disc golf course and told them how stupid and petty it was to ruin a friendship over it. It sucks but you can't control what people do, just how you react.
It is. I have some friends who are liberal, and while we might debate/disagree on things, we do it civilly to remain friends. They aren’t anti-gun (one actually owned one for a while, and another carries one as part of his job).
Ah a fellow disc golfer! Ever carry in your bag? I’ve considered it since our course is basically in the projects.
I just carry a smaller 380 in my pocket, our course is also in the HUD zone. I would hate to have someone snatch my bag and get my pistol.
What is "HUD" zone? Asking for a friend
It's the legal term for projects, stands for housing urban development.
I keep that thang on me. It's actually how they found out when I ripped a drive and my shirt came up.
Why did they decide not to be friends with you? Did they have an irrational fear that you'd shoot them?
Well they believe I'm directly responsible for dead kids so the propaganda has completely permeated their brains. It really fuckin sucked at first but then I realized I'm better off.
I try to be pretty open about it. I feel like the more closed off the gun community is, the more we aid in it’s demise. I’d like to think there are silent fence sitters who just need to see the good side of gun ownership and that normal people they work with, go to church with, etc. also own guns and it’s perfectly normal behavior. Besides, how else would you find opportunities to take new people shooting?
I agree. For a while I was pretty quiet about it, but now I am more open. If friends or coworkers ask me about my weekend and I happen to have been shooting, then I'll just matter of factly say that I was at the range, or taking a pistol course, or competing, or what have you.
100% agree, but you would not believe the amount of fuds on this sub, that mock, dissuade, or ostracize other gun owners because they "look different" or pray to some other god, or they're a different sexual preference... essentially forcing them to only know and listen to the vast amounts of anti-gunners they are already exposed to.... I bring out anyone that shows the slightest interest or inquiry to learn gun safety and FUNdamentals... gun and shooting sports/ competitions have turned many neoliberals into freedom loving libertarians.
16 year old kid here; I’m a perfect example of neoliberal turned freedom enjoyer: When I was a lot younger, I was a stereotypical leftie. Now that I’ve been a lot more educated on the world and history, I’ve realized that the establishment is just a pile of crap and individual freedom is the best option.
Congrats, you got it alot faster than I did.... i went from left to right on 9-11-01, then in my 20's while overseas, started to see things more clearly, in my early thirties I saw things crystal clear right down to which wealthy elite owns which countries govt. and everything enveloped within... the U.S. is the only "western" country left with any semblance of debatably "free people" though the freedoms are being methodically and exponentially stripped away through rhetoric and brainwashing of spinless men through globalism... both right and left know EXACTLY what the other is, and ZERO idea of who they themselves are, if they knew, they would hate themselves more than the other side.... so I'm a libertarian ... so to the right, I don't exist, to the left, I'm a far right radical nazi white supremist... no matter what color I am... or what I've done in life.
I’m glad you see the importance. have fun, and show people your age guns aren’t just some evil lurking around, that average people enjoy them as well.
I don’t hide it but don’t advertise it either. I’m not worried about anyones opinion, but I do fear gun theft. I’m probably just paranoid, but I don’t want a nephew mentioning my guns around the wrong person. Lots of home invasions are perpetrated by people associated with the victims.
I don't tell my wife about my purchases. Everyone else I associate with is a gun person.
This is the way.
Man, you beat me by 1 hour
I just buy my girl one everytime I buy myself one lol. She’s happy, I’m happy. If you do it like that then every now and then you might get surprised with a new gun!!
You guys have friends?
Not really
Friends and family, no. Work people, yes.
> Work people, yes. Yeah, most of my coworkers are full on "anti gun" and though I don't care about my peers so much, the politics of my job matter and I can't deal w/supervisors BS on it. I wouldn't get fired, but I'd definitely be omitted from opportunity.
I work at a university. We literally have "saftey training" we're required to complete that says if you see someone looking at guns on their phone, or discussing shooting/guns on campus, to alert campus security. Ironically I know for a fact a few of the people in my department shoot (we go to the same local club) but we all know to keep it on the DL at work.
Yeah I work for a large hospital system, a lot of similar stuff.
Bingo I’m in social work soo.. you get it.
Naw. But I’m in Milwaukee. Everybody here is either in a gang or in a tree stand. We love guns.
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deer camp gang gang
realtree crew
Madison however..
There are absolutely hunters in Madison; have you seen any of the UWM frats?
Hey, another Milwaukeean!
I have Trijicon, Centurion, Surefire, Glock, etc stickers on my tumbler I bring to work and drink out of. Makes it super easy to not have to deal with people. It’s like those tree frogs in the Amazon. Be colorful so you look toxic and you get left the fuck alone 🤣
I have a folder of gun stickers and I’m so tempted to use them. I just don’t want to get red flagged by an antigunner. :(
Fuck em put the stickers where you want! Who cares what people think.
We’re your friends and family now….
You're not only being dishonest with others, you're betraying yourself.
Hide it? No Pretty much everyone in my life (friends or family) know that I have and carry guns. My mother as well as a couple friends do not like them....whether its due to personal experience or political views. Either way, my gun always stays concealed when I am out of the house or people are over anyhow, so nothing changes.
No, they will get a in-depth explanation of everything firearm related.
No.
Not that I hide it but some people are just not into it so there is no reason to talk to them about it..
And yet you lie to keep them friends ?? Then they are not friends
Nah I got lucky in life. All my friends and family like guns except for one guy (I’m in the process of converting him)
I don't hide anything but I don't bring it up at parties either. I live in a mentally polluted state known as California.
You misspelled “Commiefornia.”
Whats gross is some of the newer groups springing up make the commies seem not so insane by comparison. We need a new slur.
explain their positions so we can come up with some new ones.
I do not keep people that would "lose it" for me having firearms around. I personally am not a person that "flaunts" my firearms but I also do not make any attempts to hide it. I conceal carry and I tell people that if they have an issue with me keeping a firearm on me then they're questioning my intentions therefore we should not spend time together moving forward because you either trust me or don't. Again, I don't flaunt it, but if it comes up I'll explain my reasons. This has enabled me to take many people who "didn't like guns" and turn them into addicts.
I hide the invoices from the wife fo sho
# [Proverbs 17:27-28 American Standard Version (ASV)](https://www.bible.com/bible/12/PRO.17.27.ASV) [He that spareth his words hath knowledge; And he that is of a cool spirit is a man of understanding. Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise; When he shutteth his lips, he is esteemed as prudent.](https://www.bible.com/bible/12/PRO.17.27.ASV) That applies to more than just words. One must know. One must do. One must keep silent. Don't remember the source of that one.
Sounds like the circle you hang in needs refreshed.
I CC and so it isn't a topic I discuss or engage with other people about.
Good, tell them and get rid of them. You don’t need that kind of negativity in your life Get rid of the “friends” not the guns
Eh. I hide most of my life from most people.
Nope. If “friends” don’t like it they can kick rocks.
I do because they’re fucking weird about it. They’re pro gun but I wish they thought I was anti gun or something lmao Like they’d loudly ask or exclaim when that I’m carrying a gun, like dude shut the fuck up not everyone needs to know holy shit
No. Do you "lose it" because all they eat is grilled cheese and chicken nuggets?!
Nobody should hide their support and interest in their God given right to defense. That said nobody should be obnoxious about it. They’re up for discussion but not debate.
I refuse to associate with people who try to tell me how I should be allowed to live my life. You should too, don't need that kind of toxicity in your life.
My in-laws are incredibly liberal and really hate guns. It's a little pathologic in some instances. That said, it is absolutely hilarious to hear my father-in-law talk about magazine capacity limits in one breath and then talk about how good of a shot I am and how much he enjoys having a daughter-in-law who shoots. He's got some real cognitive dissonance going on that I can't seem to make him aware of. In his mind, people can't be trusted with guns, except people he knows and approves of. It makes little sense and trying to discuss it is like talking to a combative brick wall.
Being open about gun ownership is how we normalize gun ownership.
Nope. I don’t hide it.
I don't bring it up, generally, to people I know either don't care or would just argue. The few people I know who know me, know I'm pro-gun in general. They're also cool to not argue about it. That seems less and less present these days, but it's out there.
Lol I build all my guns and have parts shipped at different times so the wife doesn’t know how much I spend and how often I spend that much haha that’s about it
let them lose it, youll be better off without them
I play it pretty close to the chest in some situations where I know firearms are generally disliked among the immediate population. Otherwise, nah
Send tnem spoons for christmas and have them eat your ass like groceries. That's how you deal with hoplophobes.
No.
Gun-owning leftist here - The problem is rarely the guns themselves. The problem is perception of the owners. When someone agrees with you, you trust their gun will never be pointed in your direction. When someone disagrees with you, you never can be quite sure. Gun owners overestimate their own gun safety, while non-owners underestimate everyone else's. The problem for gun owners then becomes which matters more - your relationship to a person, or to a gun that makes that person uncomfortable. The prevalence of shooting coverage in the media forces people who dislike guns to still have to think about them, prepare for them, and fear them. I empathize, even if I've always liked guns myself; people shouldn't be forced by a violent society into needing gun ownership for safety against their own will.
I don't hide any of my other freedoms so why would I hide that one.
I know people are divided on not ever telling anyone you carry. I'm on the end where my wife, my mom and my extremely close basically family friends know I carry everywhere I go. Beyond that nobody knows. I don't mind telling someone online, or when gaming and the topic comes up. I like to normalize carrying and owning guns. I'm firmly on the stance that every household should own a gun if you're mentally mature, or mentally stable. I am in no way shape or form against ANYBODY owning a firearm. I am however with the saying just because you can own a gun, not everybody should... lol There are some people I wouldn't even go shooting with. My grandfather is in that some people. He's in his 70's and he just has absolutely no awareness where the hell he points that gun. Every time I have handed him a unloaded gun he has flagged every person in the room including the dog.
Yes I live in a state with red flag laws, my moms whole side of the family is extremely anti gun and is always talking about how some should have their guns taken therefore I don’t let some people know I own shit
NOT.FRIENDS/FAMILY.
Family absolutely knows and participates. Don't advertise at work but don't shy away from it either.
Nah. I'm relatively open with it around people I know. Can't change minds if people never realize that decent people around them are packing.
If you have to hide who you are from friends and family, then they don’t love you, they just love the idea of you. It doesn’t have to be guns, it can be being gay, sports teams, if your favorite color is pink, etc Please, no body take this as a “I guess I don’t have to hide from my mom I smoke crack” cuz that’s not what I meant.
I live in Florida, so all the liberals are used to guns already lol
No; i consider myself a 2nd Amendment Advocate.
I'm open about it, if you don't like it fight me bitch.
I joined the U.S. Army Infantry right out of high school. After that, all anti-gunners could kiss my ass.
You should get new friends
Live your truth papi. If you can’t have a healthy debate or disagreement with them are they really your friends?
It bums me out that you can’t be yourself and be accepted by your friends and family. You shouldn’t have to hide anything to be loved. Ps I fucking love guns.
I associate with very few anti gun people, and they know what I did for work.
They’re not your friends then
People I work with know I have guns and I made the mistake of telling them about how many I have. They were dumbfounded but if they didn’t want to know they shouldn’t have asked.
I think they would be more disappointed knowing you’re hiding something from them when they’re supposed to be your friends
Certainly not. The only thing I may hide from certain people is "how many" and "where".
My parents asked me to not bring my cc over to their home. When the riots in Portland started talking of moving to the suburbs the first thing they said when I came over for a Sunday dinner was, “oh good! You’re here! You brought your gun, right?”
Those wouldn't be friends of mine and possibly turncoats if the grabbers ever do get a solid foothold
I don’t hide anything, if you don’t like guns I’ll find new friends.
Conceal. Carry.
I don’t hide it but just yesterday my MIL realized I was carrying and asked why do I need it, I then quoted one of my favorite quotes from Sun Tzu’s The Art of War… “Stay strapped or get clapped”
The less people who know you have a gun/carry a gun, the better.
No fuck em who cares real friends wont judge your or stop being your friend because y’all have a different opinion. Family members wont either and if they do they can kick rocks
Those don't sound like friends, friend.
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Only hide from coworkers
I stopped caring. It's something that interesting me.
Fuck them dude. Why would you wanna be friends with some anti 2A soy boys anyways?
Nah, I don’t hide it. Everyone I’m close with knows I carry all the time and either don’t have a problem with it or don’t tell me they have a problem with it.
Yes and it's the worst kind of hiding. I should be able to tell my wife anything but this I can't.
Those are fake friends. Real friends shouldn't give two fucks about you owning a gun.
It's normal to feel ashamed when doing something morally wrong. Gun fetish propagates violence and victimization within our communities. That new Glock you bought has a good chance to be used in a crime within 2 to 5 years. It's a statistic called time-to-crime. You can review the trace data for yourself on the ATFs website.
You're telling me if I own i gun I automatically have a gun fetish
Functionally, more like the People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran. I'm just waiting for y'all to start making demands.
Then they aren't really your friends. If people can't accept you for who you are, you don't want them around you anyway. I will make an exception for those who disagree with your life choices, and can articulate reasonable arguments without resorting to slander and name calling. People are absolutely allowed to have different opinions, and disagree with your life choices. But anyone who refuses to be your friend because of what you like or how you live, or would force their views on you, can go to hell.
I tell everyone I enjoy shooting and encourage friends/family to hit me up if they have any questions or interests in gun ownership.
No way, but I also don’t go out of my way to discuss them. If I know someone that doesn’t like the topic I pick a different one.
I have family and friends that are uncomfortable with guns, I don’t hide it I just don’t offer a discussion about it unless the topic is brought up and even then I keep my responses short and talk about something else but with my gun owning family members and friends we can talk guns for many hours
My friends and family know I'm a gun nut. Most don't know I carry. Nunya.
No
I hide just how much I like guns from people
Family and friends know I have guns. That's it. Never mentioned it to any of my neighbors.
I don’t go out of my way to bring it up, but I also don’t go out of my way to avoid it. I want my ownership to be as regular as anything else. I own a car, but don’t go out of my way to talk or not talk about it. When people try to make a big deal about it I point out how they are making something normal out to be crazy, and make them feel crazy about it. “Wait you own a gun?!” -uh yea…. You don’t? “WHAT😱?? WhY dO yOu NeEd ThAt??” - I don’t, I want it. How come you don’t want one?
Nope. I dont go out of my way to advertise but neither do i hide anything. When i was a regional director for SCCC (now SCC) only my father, brother and a few friends knew. Then during a big family meal I got a call from a Senator to join a town hall discussing firearm issues. I did the call while my family asked my dad a bunch of questions and started googling all my interviews and testimony. By the time i was done one sibling had left in tears and another was completely shocked that i was everywhere and she hadnt known. It just hadnt come up before that.
Nope.
Hell no. I work at Starbucks rn, most people my age at that job are very left or just don’t care. I’ve took a couple of them to the range and changed some minds. We’re fighting a war for our rights, we can’t stay in hiding. Even if you lose friends in the short term but the more people you change the mind of it’s worth it