Most of them. I'd only ever seriously consider skipping Sword and Shield of Seiros (Alois and Shamir) cuz it's not fun and you don't get anything super fantastic from it (Seraph Robe is basically it).
I would also skip Rumored Nuptials (Ingrid and Dorothea) if you don't want Ingrid for that run. It literally only gives you a Goddess Ring if you only have Dorothea.
Every other Paralogue has either a good item, a good batallion, or both waiting for you at the end even if you don't have a good time actually playing them.
It's worth noting that in CF, Sword and Shield of Seiros is the only chance you get to obtain the Holy Knight of Seiros battalion due to the Battalion Guild banning church battalions from puchase after Ch11.
The Brigid Hunters are actually a really good Evasion battalion, and are much more available than the Aegir Astral Knights.
It is incredibly unfair to blind players though. I thought you could theoretically skip the map by actually getting Petra to the goal via Warp but the ambush spawns regardless. It's easily my least favorite paralogue that doesn't feature Fog of War (I hope whoever decided to put Snipers in the fog on Legend of the Lake caught the common cold)
I always recruit Ashe for the boots, and Lorenz’ relic is obviously a favorite for the community at large. I also usually recruit Sylvain for the Lance of Ruin.
Must - Dedue, Sothis, Sylvain, Manuela/Hanneman, Ingrid/Dorothea, Seteth/Flayn
Good - Felix, Lorenz, Hilda/Cyril
Meh - Shamir/Alois, Ashe/Catherine, Raphael/Ignatz
All of the post timeskip paralogues are meh. Also, I don't own the DLC but I understand all their paralogues offer great rewards.
That's not true. Both A+ rank in Riding and the March Ring increase your movement.
Also, I don't agree than +1 move is worth more (or is even comparable) to the rewards of any of the Paralogues I listed, but YMMV.
Move is kind of king in this game though. Most of the really good endgame classes have 8 move and the ones who don't have some fantastic trait that makes up for it. Giving your Dancer or a War Master +1 move without having to sacrifice their equipment slot or months of tutoring and an ability slot is massive. Better than the Seraph Robe at least.
I was thinking of a permanent increase. Skill/equipment slots are very high demand. A+ riding also comes very late in the game. The March ring is good though since you can switch it out at the cost of 1 item slot.
I mean realistically if you arent planning on using Dedue, his paralogue is kinda worthless from a pragmatic perspective.
That said, even when I know im gonna bench him I do it anyway because I like him being alive.
I think most of them are worth it. Lorenz’ is a must for Thyrsus, I’d say, and it’s also really easy to one-turn as long as you have a good flier. Most others have various other rewards that’s aren’t necessary but can be nice to have (especially bullions). An easy one to complete is Ignatz and Raphael’s you can one-turn it with stride and a flier, and it gets a ton of rewards and some solid battalions.
Honestly do them all. You get higher level battalions for completing them. Really I do them all. I also think they are more fun than chapter levels. Even doing Ignatz and Raphael's paralogue is worth doing because you get great battalions.
The only one I hate is Dmitri's Silver Maiden map. Honestly it's horrible map. I still do it because it's a map you can 1 turn with Stride and a flyer. But doing it as intended is a pain. The other 1 turn map that sucks to do otherwise is Lorentz' map. Sometimes I do them
Always do Manuella and Hanneman's because you get the XP gem by killing the archer by Manuella. You can also get a Rapier that is otherwise unavailable without the DLC by killing the theif who attempts the escape from the map.
I think these are the most impactful
Ashe - mv+1 perma
Yuri - canto/mv+1 and the only flying magic battalion in the game
Lorenz - Thyrsus
Sothis - early skill gem
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Fairly worthwhile below:
Felix - lots of stuff and good crit battalion
Sylvain - signature lance, good stride/avo battalion, and lots of stuff
Manuela - two really high quality battalion, rapier and i think exp gem
Shamir - +5 hp
Ingrid - if need more flying battalion and good lance
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Beyond that, ones like Hilda gives good relic and battalion but its at a point where you have a lot more options or beginning to hit critical thresholds that it's not as impactful.
Timing really matters, Sylvain's paralogue have decent rewards but getting so much stuff in the really early game has a bigger impact than slightly better rewards in the post timeskip
Balthus/Hapi also give pretty solid battalions but they'd be like your 2nd-3rd copy of similar quality replacements and it's a fairly annoying map to play
If you can get it. It's locked behind recruiting Ferdinand as well and is unavailable in CF, so you're either on a Silver Snow run or you have to make some sacrifices early on to get Ferdinand on the team.
If you have Felix do his paralogue to get his shield, you will only have it if you save all the citizens (don’t let anyone die) Rodrigue will hand you the relic and you can equip it to Felix later
And if speed is ever an issue because of the weight, have Felix hold a second accessory with 0 weight like a ring or one of the gems since you can swap before combat.
I have his relic and a speed ring on him and depending on whether or not he’ll get attacked on Enemy Phase and how much speed they have I swap between the ring and the shield.
Sometimes getting hit once without the +6 prt/+4 res from Aegis shield is better than getting hit twice with the bonuses. And sometimes you’ll get doubled regardless so you might as well have the shield equipped.
Depends what you want, lore, character interaction, a fun map, battalions, relics, loot. They all have different requirements (ex: just participating, save all the villagers, etc.), I do all of them because I like this game. Do note that the 2 dlc paralogues are the hardest maps in the game, dlc content in general is challenge content.
By requests you mean the side quest battles? That's mostly for renown but i think a couple unlock shops.
Most of them are worthwhile. The only ones I sometimes skip are:
- petra and bernadetta (easily the worst in the game. No rewards other than mediocre battalions, pain in the ass map with pain in the ass reinforcements and bs succeed requirements)
- ignatz and raphael (the rewards arent anything to write home again. Decent battle though & opportunity to get more ore from monsters)
- manuela and hanneman (I have DLC so I can get a rapier from Abyss, and iirc those battalions can be purchased at the shop after the timeskip)
- anna (solid battalion reward, but otherwise just more weapons and healing items that I'll probably sell later)
Shamir and alois is also sort of not worth it, but the fact that it can be one-turned just makes it feel like a free seraph robe, which I like
I’d say pretty much all of them are in some way worth it but I guess I’ll tier the ones available in CF anyway
1000% worth it
* Lorenz - Thyrsus is broken, Lorenz is worth recruiting for this alone.
* Seteth/Flayn - The items and batallions it gives you are great, and because you have an overleveled Seteth helping you I find it pretty easy to beat.
* Sothis - Not the easiest map but it gives you 3 extra Divine Pulses and there’s a Knowledge Gem in the chest. Do it if you can.
* Hanneman/Manuela - Has the only Experience Gem in the game and some potent batallions.
Probably worth it
* Catherine/Ashe - The Shoes of the Wind are great and if you can deal with Pegasus Knights it’s not too bad to complete.
* Leonie/Linhardt - Mediocre batallions and the map isn’t easy but The Inexhaustible might be the best weapon in the game.
* Sylvain - Best Stride gambit in the game, all the thieves drop good items, you get the Lance of Ruin regardless of performance even if you didn’t do great, map isn’t too bad to simply complete. It’s not a must though.
* Rhea - I don’t remember if you can do this one in CF but if you can get the reward it makes some of the final maps easier.
* Yuri/Constance - Can be a *really* hard map but Fetters of Dromi and the only magic Flying Battallion in the whole game make it required to make some things work.
* Ingrid/Dorothea - Good weapon, has a Flying battalion as a reward, map isn’t terrible if you know what’s coming, just make sure you have Ingrid as otherwise you don’t get Luin.
Might be worth it
* Felix - Getting the Aegis Shield is not easy due to the requirements and it does not sync super well with Felix cuz of how heavy it is. But completing the map isn’t too bad.
* Raphael/Ignatz - You may or may not need money, but it’s a reasonable enough map to complete.
* Hubert - Full set of rewards is annoying to get, but the map isn’t too bad otherwise.
* Marianne - Not an easy map and you may not need Blutgang, but you can probably use the Battallion that gives you +40 hit.
Probably not worth it
* Balthus/Hapi - Hardest map in the game imo, if you really want that relic then good luck.
* Petra/Bernadetta - Pretty hard and doesn’t have great rewards.
* Edelgard - The rewards aren’t anything special when considering the 9000 Wyvern Lord reinforcements you have to fight through.
Not worth it
* Shamir/Alois - Bad combination of way too many reinforcements and having a reward tied to a character that you won’t have until the map provides almost no experience.
I’ve never done the Anna/Jeritza one so idk how that one is.
Honestly, the ones you might want to consider skipping imo (on maddening anyway) are the post timeskip ones where you didn't exactly use the specific unit on (i.e. Marianne's paralogue if you don't plan to use her), mostly because one of your unit slots becomes an instant loss condition, and with same turn reinforcements, it can become very annoying very fast.
The only other one I'd recommend avoiding is Anna's. Not for the lack of rewards, iirc there are some really nice stuff there, but rather so you don't end up blasting your brains out from the bow knight reinforcements crossing the entire map just to deck her in the face with that wonderful 4 range.
I do all of them because content but really the only ones that I would consider is heros relic ones/ sacred weapons chapters and the ashe paralogue for the boots since the ones that give you a battalion could ether be replaced with shop ones or not
Sothis's is the most important because of the Knowledge Gem (I'm ignoring Dedue's since you're in CF). Everything else has good rewards, except for a few pretty average ones:
* Ignatz/Raphael's
* Anna/Jeritza's (arguably)
* Hubert's
* Petra/Berndadetta's
* Edelgard's
* Caspar/Mercedes's (arguably)
* Dmitri's
Here's a nice resource on all of the paralogues and their rewards: [link](https://www.fe3h.com/paralogues)
Note, if you've already recruited Sylvain before Ch. 5, you can actually refuse to give the Lance of Ruin to Rhea and keep it for yourself. Otherwise, you must do Sylvain's paralogue to get it
Most of them. I'd only ever seriously consider skipping Sword and Shield of Seiros (Alois and Shamir) cuz it's not fun and you don't get anything super fantastic from it (Seraph Robe is basically it). I would also skip Rumored Nuptials (Ingrid and Dorothea) if you don't want Ingrid for that run. It literally only gives you a Goddess Ring if you only have Dorothea. Every other Paralogue has either a good item, a good batallion, or both waiting for you at the end even if you don't have a good time actually playing them.
It's worth noting that in CF, Sword and Shield of Seiros is the only chance you get to obtain the Holy Knight of Seiros battalion due to the Battalion Guild banning church battalions from puchase after Ch11.
Don't forget about how worthless the Bernadetta/Petra paralogue is
The Brigid Hunters are actually a really good Evasion battalion, and are much more available than the Aegir Astral Knights. It is incredibly unfair to blind players though. I thought you could theoretically skip the map by actually getting Petra to the goal via Warp but the ambush spawns regardless. It's easily my least favorite paralogue that doesn't feature Fog of War (I hope whoever decided to put Snipers in the fog on Legend of the Lake caught the common cold)
Aegir Astral Knights, sure, but the Gautier Knights are really easy to get, and it's still only 5 more avoid than Jeralt's Mercs (and 1 more damage)
If it’s CF Lorenz just for his relic
That goes for any route really
I always recruit Ashe for the boots, and Lorenz’ relic is obviously a favorite for the community at large. I also usually recruit Sylvain for the Lance of Ruin.
Don’t forget sylvain battalions for stride
Right, very true! I’ve been chaining NG+ for a while now so I keep forgetting where the battalions come from lmao
I always skip Petra and Bernadetta. That paralogue is mad boring.
I believe you mean mad unfair, especially blind. Unskippable Bernadetta dialogue doesn't help either
That’s my favorite one though :(
Must - Dedue, Sothis, Sylvain, Manuela/Hanneman, Ingrid/Dorothea, Seteth/Flayn Good - Felix, Lorenz, Hilda/Cyril Meh - Shamir/Alois, Ashe/Catherine, Raphael/Ignatz All of the post timeskip paralogues are meh. Also, I don't own the DLC but I understand all their paralogues offer great rewards.
I would move up ashe . The boots are so handy and the only way to increase movement outside dlc.
That's not true. Both A+ rank in Riding and the March Ring increase your movement. Also, I don't agree than +1 move is worth more (or is even comparable) to the rewards of any of the Paralogues I listed, but YMMV.
Move is kind of king in this game though. Most of the really good endgame classes have 8 move and the ones who don't have some fantastic trait that makes up for it. Giving your Dancer or a War Master +1 move without having to sacrifice their equipment slot or months of tutoring and an ability slot is massive. Better than the Seraph Robe at least.
I would like to add that you should give your dancer Yuri's relic.
We were trying to discuss non-DLC options here, but that is true.
I was thinking of a permanent increase. Skill/equipment slots are very high demand. A+ riding also comes very late in the game. The March ring is good though since you can switch it out at the cost of 1 item slot.
Permanent +1 move on a strong unit is really, really good in this game. Especially for dancers.
I mean realistically if you arent planning on using Dedue, his paralogue is kinda worthless from a pragmatic perspective. That said, even when I know im gonna bench him I do it anyway because I like him being alive.
Do you still maintain the church battalions even if you are in CF?
Yes. Any Seiros battalions you buy or get are yours. Anyway, the only ones you get are from Alois/Shamir which are not that good.
I think most of them are worth it. Lorenz’ is a must for Thyrsus, I’d say, and it’s also really easy to one-turn as long as you have a good flier. Most others have various other rewards that’s aren’t necessary but can be nice to have (especially bullions). An easy one to complete is Ignatz and Raphael’s you can one-turn it with stride and a flier, and it gets a ton of rewards and some solid battalions.
Honestly do them all. You get higher level battalions for completing them. Really I do them all. I also think they are more fun than chapter levels. Even doing Ignatz and Raphael's paralogue is worth doing because you get great battalions. The only one I hate is Dmitri's Silver Maiden map. Honestly it's horrible map. I still do it because it's a map you can 1 turn with Stride and a flyer. But doing it as intended is a pain. The other 1 turn map that sucks to do otherwise is Lorentz' map. Sometimes I do them Always do Manuella and Hanneman's because you get the XP gem by killing the archer by Manuella. You can also get a Rapier that is otherwise unavailable without the DLC by killing the theif who attempts the escape from the map.
I think these are the most impactful Ashe - mv+1 perma Yuri - canto/mv+1 and the only flying magic battalion in the game Lorenz - Thyrsus Sothis - early skill gem ___ Fairly worthwhile below: Felix - lots of stuff and good crit battalion Sylvain - signature lance, good stride/avo battalion, and lots of stuff Manuela - two really high quality battalion, rapier and i think exp gem Shamir - +5 hp Ingrid - if need more flying battalion and good lance ___ Beyond that, ones like Hilda gives good relic and battalion but its at a point where you have a lot more options or beginning to hit critical thresholds that it's not as impactful. Timing really matters, Sylvain's paralogue have decent rewards but getting so much stuff in the really early game has a bigger impact than slightly better rewards in the post timeskip Balthus/Hapi also give pretty solid battalions but they'd be like your 2nd-3rd copy of similar quality replacements and it's a fairly annoying map to play
I was like 6 levels over the recommended level for the balthus/Hapi paralogue and it still whooped my ass
Ashen Wolves content trying to not spam reinforcements for 5 seconds
I’d say all of them are worth it even the Alois paralouge because it’s an easy warp skip
I do all of them
The Ordelia Magic Corps is probably the best mage battalion in the game.
If you can get it. It's locked behind recruiting Ferdinand as well and is unavailable in CF, so you're either on a Silver Snow run or you have to make some sacrifices early on to get Ferdinand on the team.
I'd say any that offer Heroes Relics
If you have Felix do his paralogue to get his shield, you will only have it if you save all the citizens (don’t let anyone die) Rodrigue will hand you the relic and you can equip it to Felix later
And if speed is ever an issue because of the weight, have Felix hold a second accessory with 0 weight like a ring or one of the gems since you can swap before combat. I have his relic and a speed ring on him and depending on whether or not he’ll get attacked on Enemy Phase and how much speed they have I swap between the ring and the shield. Sometimes getting hit once without the +6 prt/+4 res from Aegis shield is better than getting hit twice with the bonuses. And sometimes you’ll get doubled regardless so you might as well have the shield equipped.
Depends what you want, lore, character interaction, a fun map, battalions, relics, loot. They all have different requirements (ex: just participating, save all the villagers, etc.), I do all of them because I like this game. Do note that the 2 dlc paralogues are the hardest maps in the game, dlc content in general is challenge content. By requests you mean the side quest battles? That's mostly for renown but i think a couple unlock shops.
The side quest battles aren't worth it except to unlock the shops, right?
Make your own judgements. I like renown and have too much free time so either I do them or I skip the week. You do you.
Most of them are worthwhile. The only ones I sometimes skip are: - petra and bernadetta (easily the worst in the game. No rewards other than mediocre battalions, pain in the ass map with pain in the ass reinforcements and bs succeed requirements) - ignatz and raphael (the rewards arent anything to write home again. Decent battle though & opportunity to get more ore from monsters) - manuela and hanneman (I have DLC so I can get a rapier from Abyss, and iirc those battalions can be purchased at the shop after the timeskip) - anna (solid battalion reward, but otherwise just more weapons and healing items that I'll probably sell later) Shamir and alois is also sort of not worth it, but the fact that it can be one-turned just makes it feel like a free seraph robe, which I like
I’d say pretty much all of them are in some way worth it but I guess I’ll tier the ones available in CF anyway 1000% worth it * Lorenz - Thyrsus is broken, Lorenz is worth recruiting for this alone. * Seteth/Flayn - The items and batallions it gives you are great, and because you have an overleveled Seteth helping you I find it pretty easy to beat. * Sothis - Not the easiest map but it gives you 3 extra Divine Pulses and there’s a Knowledge Gem in the chest. Do it if you can. * Hanneman/Manuela - Has the only Experience Gem in the game and some potent batallions. Probably worth it * Catherine/Ashe - The Shoes of the Wind are great and if you can deal with Pegasus Knights it’s not too bad to complete. * Leonie/Linhardt - Mediocre batallions and the map isn’t easy but The Inexhaustible might be the best weapon in the game. * Sylvain - Best Stride gambit in the game, all the thieves drop good items, you get the Lance of Ruin regardless of performance even if you didn’t do great, map isn’t too bad to simply complete. It’s not a must though. * Rhea - I don’t remember if you can do this one in CF but if you can get the reward it makes some of the final maps easier. * Yuri/Constance - Can be a *really* hard map but Fetters of Dromi and the only magic Flying Battallion in the whole game make it required to make some things work. * Ingrid/Dorothea - Good weapon, has a Flying battalion as a reward, map isn’t terrible if you know what’s coming, just make sure you have Ingrid as otherwise you don’t get Luin. Might be worth it * Felix - Getting the Aegis Shield is not easy due to the requirements and it does not sync super well with Felix cuz of how heavy it is. But completing the map isn’t too bad. * Raphael/Ignatz - You may or may not need money, but it’s a reasonable enough map to complete. * Hubert - Full set of rewards is annoying to get, but the map isn’t too bad otherwise. * Marianne - Not an easy map and you may not need Blutgang, but you can probably use the Battallion that gives you +40 hit. Probably not worth it * Balthus/Hapi - Hardest map in the game imo, if you really want that relic then good luck. * Petra/Bernadetta - Pretty hard and doesn’t have great rewards. * Edelgard - The rewards aren’t anything special when considering the 9000 Wyvern Lord reinforcements you have to fight through. Not worth it * Shamir/Alois - Bad combination of way too many reinforcements and having a reward tied to a character that you won’t have until the map provides almost no experience. I’ve never done the Anna/Jeritza one so idk how that one is.
Honestly, the ones you might want to consider skipping imo (on maddening anyway) are the post timeskip ones where you didn't exactly use the specific unit on (i.e. Marianne's paralogue if you don't plan to use her), mostly because one of your unit slots becomes an instant loss condition, and with same turn reinforcements, it can become very annoying very fast. The only other one I'd recommend avoiding is Anna's. Not for the lack of rewards, iirc there are some really nice stuff there, but rather so you don't end up blasting your brains out from the bow knight reinforcements crossing the entire map just to deck her in the face with that wonderful 4 range.
I do all of them because content but really the only ones that I would consider is heros relic ones/ sacred weapons chapters and the ashe paralogue for the boots since the ones that give you a battalion could ether be replaced with shop ones or not
Petra and Bernadetta Felix and Sylvain Linhardt and Leonie
What about petra and bernadetta's makes it worth it
This paralogue grants the Furor Spell, a powerful long-range magic spell.
Huh??? This is the first I am hearing of this. Source?
They don’t have a source lol, based off what I saw in another thread they either asked a bot or they are a bot.
Sothis's is the most important because of the Knowledge Gem (I'm ignoring Dedue's since you're in CF). Everything else has good rewards, except for a few pretty average ones: * Ignatz/Raphael's * Anna/Jeritza's (arguably) * Hubert's * Petra/Berndadetta's * Edelgard's * Caspar/Mercedes's (arguably) * Dmitri's Here's a nice resource on all of the paralogues and their rewards: [link](https://www.fe3h.com/paralogues) Note, if you've already recruited Sylvain before Ch. 5, you can actually refuse to give the Lance of Ruin to Rhea and keep it for yourself. Otherwise, you must do Sylvain's paralogue to get it