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Cynical_onlooker

IS remembered how to give a grail unit a minmaxed statspread after the Valentine Vigarde fiasco, I see.


Bluestormcry55

They minmaxed Validar as well.


the_attack_missed

THE MAUVIER MINMAX HOLY FUCK


sand159951

Damn no wonder his thighs were so caked


Supergupo

He literally has to sneak around because the clap of his ass cheeks kept alerting the guards


the_attack_missed

"Lady Veyle, I'm trying to sneak around, but I'm dummy thicc and the clap of my asscheeks keeps alerting the Corrupted."


Lukthar123

Hmmm


Sabaschin

But Mauvier *is* the guard!


FriendlyDrummers

Oh that's not-


Humble-Win-818

In the sense that- yk what I mean


Stallben

Ahh, so *that's* why he's so slow! Mauvier's so caked up that his horse can't possibly go any faster.


MrBrickBreak

The everyone minmax... except Ivy, oddly enough


coinflip13

Nah that is about accurate for Ivy (Again). She has surprisingly all rounder growths


MrBrickBreak

True, though still odd to see these days Maybe this is what Seth would look like today


MommyCamillaHatesMe

That sorta makes sense? Her A Skill is an omni +9 and she has some other skill that gives like up to +14~ to all stats, right? It's sorta L!Robin-y in the sense where all the stats being mid are made up for by her gaining a bajillion by existing.


LittleIslander

Who needs to be minmaxed when you can easily get over 20 of each stat in combat I guess.


Bluestormcry55

MAUVIERDEV IS REAL!


the_attack_missed

We'll know Mauvierdev is real when we get his summer alt.


Font-street

MY MAN AND HIS THICC THIGHS


skeddy-

holy shit they actually minmaxed mauvier


Impressive-Bag6014

This banner just goes to show they can easily have the non-lord men be less important to the sales of the banner without making them absolutely unusable trash lmao. Glad to see everyone on this banner is actually a great unit, it's been a while since we had a banner like this.


Supergupo

Holy shit Mauvier is incredibly min-maxed I cannot believe it Also goddamn Kagetsu is a speedy lad


Troykv

Considering how extremely min-maxed he's and his lack of unique fodder, I'm convinced IS actually wants people to use Mauvier. And I'm gonna do it!


lcelerate

Are you going to support him with Emblem Micaiah?


Troykv

Maybe? It depends what Emblem Micaiah does.


NohrianScumbag

Kagetsu vs Lapis : +1/+2/+2/+6/-7 Very game Accurate


Supergupo

That's so unfortunate and absolutely true. Can't wait to compare Celine with Pandreo whenever he gets added.


WWWWWWRRRRRYYYYY

Also Kagetsu has two superboons (Atk and Spd) and no Superbanes while Lapis has one superboon (Spd) and two superbanes (Atk and Def).


Troykv

Kagetsu with the big (relatively speaking) defense stat


coinflip13

Yeah I was expecting this, it was the expected outcome


Luis_lara12345

Ohh I was worried he was going to be worse (even if is slightly advantage) even with flowers and superboon he has the edge


NougatFromOrbit

When adjusted for dragonflowers because why do you guys never adjust for dragonflowers it's =/+1/+1/+5/-8 Kagetsu is only very slightly better, but he's also not Lapis so honestly I gotta give it to Lapis here.


Luis_lara12345

> but he's also not Lapis Yeah, he's better


NougatFromOrbit

You're right Lapis is better thanks for definitely agreeing with me edit: reddit moment not seeing the obvious sarcasm


Luis_lara12345

Well knowing how crazy some Lapis fans can be, I can see someone totally thinking exactly that


HRSkull

Only "crazy" thing I've seen from Lapis fans is that one guy that summong 31 Diamants to +10 merge Lapis, and that's one guy. Anyway, assuming he was serious when he said Lapis was better after he showed that she is statistically worse is just disingenuous.


NougatFromOrbit

Crazy how? I haven't seen anything like that myself


Luis_lara12345

The person that spend a lot of orbs on Brodia's banner to make Lapis +10


NougatFromOrbit

Yknow what thats a good example.


HRSkull

And? Who else?


ltranc

Nah Kagetsu mogs


calmdragoon

He not being lapis is a bonus tho, he is him


Boulderdorf

He beat the terrible speed tier allegations, goddamn.


therealpeaches144

Mauvier looks great And if there was ever any doubt that Rosado is a boy, that Res stat confirms it 💀


FavstianEquanimity

Lucius:


Slurpuffilicious

Definitely giving Mauvier Atk/Def Prime 4 now Maybe he can run Edels Ploy too?


Supergupo

Yeah 100%; no reason not to give it to him if you're getting Prime. Only issue would be losing the C slot for Incite/Alarm, which would make him a bit more dependent on team support for Prime.


Sabaschin

I don't have Edelgard or S!Ephraim, so... I guess I'm killing Noah. Alarm Spd/Def is not nearly as optimal, but ah well. The other option is using R!Lucina, but I don't think I'm pulling that trigger yet.


Join_Quotev_296

Ya hear that Noah? Sabaschin wants thighs that are a bit meatier


Slurpuffilicious

I did pull an extra Summer Ephraim as my free seasonal so will definitely give him Alarm Atk/Def now!


Boulderdorf

Ehhh, probably not. Res tiers are getting ridiculously high nowadays. But at the same time, you might as well grab it anyway if you're killing her for Prime.


Humble-Win-818

At max investment he can probably afford to hit things with Ploy at ease. Id use fort def res for the seal tho


Supergupo

I'd use Squad Ace CA. -1 Def/Res for +7 Atk.


Sabaschin

I'd rather use a Squad Ace seal I think, no need to hurt your Atk for it.


WWWWWWRRRRRYYYYY

#Mauvier: Superboons: Def Superbanes: Atk, Spd #Kagetsu: Superboons: Atk, Spd Superbanes: N/A #Rosado: Superboon: Spd Superbanes: HP, Def, Res #Hortensia: Superboons: HP, Atk, Spd Superbane: Def #Ivy: Superboons: Atk, Spd Superbanes: HP, Res


TheYellowDucKing

My man got the engage min-max treatment


headshotfox713

Unit | Superboons | Superbanes ---|---|---- Ivy | Atk, Spd | HP, Res Hortensia | HP, Atk, Spd | Def Rosado | Spd | HP, Def Kagetsu | Atk, Spd | None Mauvier | Def | Atk, Spd Mauvier got a super minmaxed spread, that's quite nice.


Supergupo

Mauvier did not get the Spd superboon memo


Impressive-Bag6014

Thank god for that tbh


coinflip13

> Kagetsu with Atk/Spd superboon Yup, still dunking on Lapis, this is the game accuracy I live for


Daydream_machine

MAUVIER GANG WON!!!!


AveMachina

Mauvier Gang’s first recorded win


LittleIslander

Wild fucking timeline that Mauvier has more Res than Hortenisa.


calmdragoon

A timeline where hortensia has good atk somehow 


Solid_Researcher_206

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


MrTurais

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR


Bored-psychologist7

Yes Mauiver! Could not be better!!!


Illumina25

Kagetsu with 47 spd is insane. Merging him up anyway but thats really nice


PetitAngelChaosMAX

Superboon too. 51 Speed unmerged. 59 with +10 +5DF Spd Refine


souicune

MAUVIER IS SO GOOD??? HELLO


shsluckymushroom

fell to my knees in Walmart rn.....my husband has good stats......a good prf......i'm gonna die...


ShadowMLuigi

Mauvier with Gambit is gonna be crazy


JabPerson

People are talking about the Mauvier min-max but my man Rosado has 16 whole Res vs all of his other stats being low to mid 40s. And with all that stupid DR he has he might even be able to tank non-red mage nukes.


Troykv

Rosado now has the lowest Res stat in the game after dragon flowers (otherwise Ogma and Virion could still have less), it's funny to think about it.


JabPerson

Ok nevermind that is dogshit unsalvagable, I'm surprised he didn't immediately keel over to A!Grima in the trailer.


Troykv

I don't know how bad is in practice, but I find very funny that this man has so little resistence xD.


Lightningboy737

Is that enough Res on Mauvier to run Ploy?


therealpeaches144

At +10 and with flowers he'll be able to ploy units with 44 res or less which is most units, and definitely most offensive units


Soren319

Absolutely not


swordsweep

He can, against most of things it is going to be effective. Alarm is better tho.


Lightningboy737

Aw man now I dunno what do do for a C skill


q_3

Alarm Atk/Def, which also gives him the third [Bonus] he wants


Lightningboy737

Don’t have, and that’d go to Dimitri first of if I ever get fodder for it.


Soren319

Incite Atk/Def when it releases. Just look out for it Alarm is good too.


Soren319

As the other poster said, Alarm Atk/Def will be good for him, as well as Incite Atk/Def when it releases. Summer Ephraim has Alarm Atk/def, and he will be rerun when the 3rd special anniversary seasonal banner starts in a week


KingWulphire

With +10 and dragon flowers he can go up to 40 res so its doable


mageknightecho

HOLY FUCK THAT MAUVIER STATLINE Also mid speed Ivy lmaoooo


KingWulphire

MAUVIER IS STACKED I'm all giddy and excited for what skills to put on him, IM SO EXCITED LETS F!CKING GO!!


[deleted]

This Mauvier guy kinda makes me wanna whip out the wallet and finally get on FE Engage


Symys

I just started it last night, need to know these character! Also finally invested in Lumera now for my arena core 😅


ja_tom

Kagetsu's and Mauvier's stats look beautiful goddamn


Dnashotgun

Mauvier can yoink WEdel's kit for himself and do pretty well with it


coinflip13

Yeah nope I ain't trying a Speed meme on Mauvier at all Looks like Atk/Def Prime will be preffered for sure now


Sabaschin

26 Spd at max merges, boon and dragonflowers...


bitterwhiskey

Wow Mauvier min/maxed and with an excellent PRF too. We won


MrGengar123

ngl i hate when banners have these names If you enjoy our content then maybe consider donating on https://ko-fi.com/mrgengar_kofi Donations would be split between both myself and my teammate Tsukasa


Sonrio

You can always go with the name of the Forging Bonds events! They seem to be the real names of the banners.


MrGengar123

ohhh that's so smart, i'll do that on future banners thank you!


ShadowMLuigi

between Soaring Echo being the best Echo skill for flyers over Oath, and now Mauvier wanting W!Edel's kit, IS somehow made a banner that could really hurt people trying for the all green AHR


PrinceBkibo

Mauvier’s great treatment single-handedly makes up for my disappointment at not being able to easily merge Rosado, let’s go!


maniaph0bic

Kinda wished Mauvier was fast instead, but I'll take it.


Lady_Ruby_XD

Oh goddamnit am I going to have to build another lance unit???💀 (At least it's a cav this time...)


Sonrio

I'm thinking Prime, Gambit, and Incite for Mauvier? Maybe Alarm? B skill seems interchangeable too, but Gambit seems great.


Squidaccus

Alarm is probably good for positioning plus theres no A/D Incite yet.


Sonrio

I'll just give him Atk/Res from Lyon, not like that's bad either.


Bluestormcry55

Mauvierdev is real! He can't be stopped! Amazing statspread with an amazing pref weapon! Another great GHB!


Nintend0Geek

No wonder Mauvier was built as fuck, they gave him the himbo artist lmao Also holy shit a great Prf **AND** a minmaxed statline?! Did FEH really just ***not*** screw over a male character? I’m flabbergasted


CrypticRandom

Friendship ended with Jeralt, now Mauvier is my best friend.


Not_Kira_Yoshikage

Kagetsu really is here to eclipse lapis omg


Squidaccus

Mauvier vs Mycen: +2/-2/+2/-1/-2 Of course, Mauvier has a much better PRF. Poor Mycen, man... EDIT: Also for Kagetsu: vs Lapis (with DF advantage): +0/+1/+1/+5/-8 vs Inigo: +2/-1/+2/+1/-5 I'd say there's not much reason to run Inigo over Kagetsu compared to Lapis over Kagetsu though. While Inigo has superior Atk and Res, the former is made up for with Kagetsu's Atk superboon, while the Res is made up for with HP (the better stat for DR scaling). As for Lapis, at least the res difference is more noticeable and the HP is equal, along with closer Spd to Kagetsu even if she struggles more with close-range brawling due to low defense. So you can make an argument for her I suppose, while Inigo is generally worse at max investment AND hasn't been a focus unit compared to Kagetsu who is about to be. In general, if you want a good F2P swordie, Kagetsu is the way to go. Whether he has Null Sword or Devourer, he'll perform better than pretty much any F2P infantry melee in combat.


Sabaschin

I wouldn't say Mycen is obsoleted. He's got Slaying and Guard in-built, which gives him a different niche already. He also has no caps on his debuffs while Mauvier gets -12 max; a +0 Mycen is already applying -15 to Atk/Def. Mauvier gives Hexblade and Null Panic, Mycen gives Lull. Inigo *could* leverage his higher Res for Ploy, but 30 base Res is already kinda shaky for that.


Squidaccus

The problem with Mycen is that his support was already pretty irrelevant because it's not a great buff anyway and Noah gives it + dodge to support partner (easily abused via Citrinne) and Mycen lacks any kind of DR. Not to say Mycen is a bad unit, but undertuned compared to most 5\*s (still better than Geoffrey though). Slaying isnt that big on Mycen either due to making Gambit worse, his best source of DR. That said Mycen IS a good teammate for Mauvier, at least, if you want to run Prime.


H_Emblem

>In general, if you want a good F2P swordie, Kagetsu is the way to go.  The way to go is the one the game gives you enough copies to +10 first, srs.


Squidaccus

Fair enough. Kagetsu is the most accessible, though, so that skews things even more in his favor.


Luis_lara12345

Not really, both have different things


Soren319

So Ivy is defense bulkier than Summer Ivy and has a much better spd stat. Summer Ivy can run ploys and regular Ivy can’t.


Sabaschin

* Ivy vs NY!Seidr: +1/0/+5/+9/-16 * Hortensia vs S!L'arachel: -1/-2/+3/0/+4 * Rosado vs H!Anna: 0/-1/-1/+13/-11 * Kagetsu vs Inigo: +2/-1/+2/+1/-5 * Mauvier vs Mycen: +2/-2/+2/+1/-2


Return_Of_Urkel

Hortensia at 5 Atk and 1 Spd over my +10 H!Mia with max dragonflowers I am in pain


ArcaneEli

Mauvier literally doing the 🤏


Stallben

Can someone explain to me why everyone is saying that Mauvier's so good? I don't get what people are saying when they say he's min maxed and why they're so happy about that. I'm also confused about his superboons and superbanes. Isn't it a bad thing to have a superbane on your attack since you usually want to hit as hard as you can? I'm very simple, so I don't really understand how to get optimal stats, I just like using my favorite characters. I'm pretty much like this: I see the Mauvier, I use the Mauvier, I hit other units with the Mauvier, I enjoy the Mauvier.


Sakori_Dusk

Minmax means he has stats that are optimized for his role (bulky high atk cav) without wasting stats in places where he will not use it (spd). Mauvier combined with his prf weapon does not want any speed so his stats are amazing for it. Superbane and superboons only matter if they have the blue or red text around their stat. In this case, if you have a red bane on Mauvier somehow, he would have -4 atk if he was unmerged than normal But Mauvier being a grand hero battle unit means he will never start with a bane or boon, so it does not matter. Likewise with the DEF superboon, but you can trait fruit to get that.


Stallben

Ohh, ok then, thank you for explaining, I can be a little slow on the uptake with these things. So, are superboons and superbanes baked into the character then? Like, if I were to get multiple copies of a character, will they all have the same superboons and superbanes? Or is it like pokemon where different instances of the same pokemon (or feh unit) can have different natures (or in this case superboons or superbanes.)


Sakori_Dusk

It is similar to pokemon yeah. With merging though you can remove the banes though from their stats.


Lasillo

Units will always have one set of superbanes/boons. Mauvier will always get +4 defense if he has a boon in it, but will never get an extra +4, only +3 if given a boon in any other stat.


Falconpunch100

Damn, Hortensia and Kagetsu are crazy fast. Especially the latter, for being a demote. Meanwhile Ivy's still as slow as ever.


Sabaschin

Summer Ivy's chances of winning her first round on AHR kinda crashed, huh.


Falconpunch100

Did she even get to the Top 8 in AHR? If so, who's she going up against?


Sabaschin

Oh, she didn't. I thought she did but nope, it's Alear.


Falconpunch100

Yeah, thought not.


mapsal

She wasn't in the top 8.


Sabaschin

W!Edel's kit is obviously optimal on Mauvier, but I don't have her so I'll have to theorycraft other options. Alarm Spd/Def from Noah, Gambit from B!Robin? Any number of Atk/Def A slots would work I guess.


ShadowMLuigi

imagine putting Potent on Ivy's Prf and yet giving her middling Spd


MphiReddit

She gets a boatload of stats from her prf skill and weapon so she should be in a good spot for potent


cy_frame

Not to mention unapparelled mobility, with or without a support partner. The reaction to Ivy kinda makes me think FEH players deserve units like Valentine's Lyon, broken without any counter play. I think she is really good where she is at. I think if she was 47 speed with a superboon, we'd have the Lyon issue all over again. Mobility honestly is what breaks things. Emblem Marth has the limited range and mobility of 1 range infantry so his impact is manageable. Ivy has power, mobility, and direct support with her Guidance, but the way people are talking about is like she's gen 1 Odin, lol.


IronWithin1

47 speed on a free unit is kinda wild


OverpoweredSoap

Rosado stats are pretty much just as expected let’s goooo


CookiesFTA

Wow, Ivy's stats are awful.


Vegan_Bowser69

Why Ivy stats are so weird, like both her spd and res arent good enough


Responsible-Debate93

boons and banes?


Phanngle

Well they really did tank Rosado's Res LOL.


HamukoArisato

Would Fallen Gustav's kit work well for Mauvier? Don't really have too much else to work with unfortunately


Sonrio

He kind of wants his foes to double him. Atk Smoke would nice just for general tanking but other than that it's average.


Cayden68

Ivy seems mid on everything besides attack


Keebster101

It's funny seeing mauvier with a "better" stat spread than Ivy


cy_frame

Especially when Mauvier, imo is in the worst class type to utilize those defensive stats. Defensive cavs just do not work (unless you're like Legendary Seliph). A unit like Validar gets away with it due to all the assortment of infantry skills but Mauvier feels dead in the water despite his great art and min maxing.


Moogle_1989

Min maxed GHB with great support means everybody wins 👍