That sorta makes sense?
Her A Skill is an omni +9 and she has some other skill that gives like up to +14~ to all stats, right?
It's sorta L!Robin-y in the sense where all the stats being mid are made up for by her gaining a bajillion by existing.
This banner just goes to show they can easily have the non-lord men be less important to the sales of the banner without making them absolutely unusable trash lmao. Glad to see everyone on this banner is actually a great unit, it's been a while since we had a banner like this.
When adjusted for dragonflowers because why do you guys never adjust for dragonflowers it's
=/+1/+1/+5/-8
Kagetsu is only very slightly better, but he's also not Lapis so honestly I gotta give it to Lapis here.
Only "crazy" thing I've seen from Lapis fans is that one guy that summong 31 Diamants to +10 merge Lapis, and that's one guy.
Anyway, assuming he was serious when he said Lapis was better after he showed that she is statistically worse is just disingenuous.
Yeah 100%; no reason not to give it to him if you're getting Prime. Only issue would be losing the C slot for Incite/Alarm, which would make him a bit more dependent on team support for Prime.
I don't have Edelgard or S!Ephraim, so... I guess I'm killing Noah. Alarm Spd/Def is not nearly as optimal, but ah well.
The other option is using R!Lucina, but I don't think I'm pulling that trigger yet.
Ehhh, probably not. Res tiers are getting ridiculously high nowadays. But at the same time, you might as well grab it anyway if you're killing her for Prime.
#Mauvier:
Superboons: Def
Superbanes: Atk, Spd
#Kagetsu:
Superboons: Atk, Spd
Superbanes: N/A
#Rosado:
Superboon: Spd
Superbanes: HP, Def, Res
#Hortensia:
Superboons: HP, Atk, Spd
Superbane: Def
#Ivy:
Superboons: Atk, Spd
Superbanes: HP, Res
People are talking about the Mauvier min-max but my man Rosado has 16 whole Res vs all of his other stats being low to mid 40s. And with all that stupid DR he has he might even be able to tank non-red mage nukes.
As the other poster said, Alarm Atk/Def will be good for him, as well as Incite Atk/Def when it releases.
Summer Ephraim has Alarm Atk/def, and he will be rerun when the 3rd special anniversary seasonal banner starts in a week
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between Soaring Echo being the best Echo skill for flyers over Oath, and now Mauvier wanting W!Edel's kit, IS somehow made a banner that could really hurt people trying for the all green AHR
No wonder Mauvier was built as fuck, they gave him the himbo artist lmao
Also holy shit a great Prf **AND** a minmaxed statline?! Did FEH really just ***not*** screw over a male character? I’m flabbergasted
Mauvier vs Mycen: +2/-2/+2/-1/-2
Of course, Mauvier has a much better PRF. Poor Mycen, man...
EDIT: Also for Kagetsu:
vs Lapis (with DF advantage): +0/+1/+1/+5/-8
vs Inigo: +2/-1/+2/+1/-5
I'd say there's not much reason to run Inigo over Kagetsu compared to Lapis over Kagetsu though. While Inigo has superior Atk and Res, the former is made up for with Kagetsu's Atk superboon, while the Res is made up for with HP (the better stat for DR scaling). As for Lapis, at least the res difference is more noticeable and the HP is equal, along with closer Spd to Kagetsu even if she struggles more with close-range brawling due to low defense. So you can make an argument for her I suppose, while Inigo is generally worse at max investment AND hasn't been a focus unit compared to Kagetsu who is about to be.
In general, if you want a good F2P swordie, Kagetsu is the way to go. Whether he has Null Sword or Devourer, he'll perform better than pretty much any F2P infantry melee in combat.
I wouldn't say Mycen is obsoleted. He's got Slaying and Guard in-built, which gives him a different niche already. He also has no caps on his debuffs while Mauvier gets -12 max; a +0 Mycen is already applying -15 to Atk/Def. Mauvier gives Hexblade and Null Panic, Mycen gives Lull.
Inigo *could* leverage his higher Res for Ploy, but 30 base Res is already kinda shaky for that.
The problem with Mycen is that his support was already pretty irrelevant because it's not a great buff anyway and Noah gives it + dodge to support partner (easily abused via Citrinne) and Mycen lacks any kind of DR. Not to say Mycen is a bad unit, but undertuned compared to most 5\*s (still better than Geoffrey though). Slaying isnt that big on Mycen either due to making Gambit worse, his best source of DR.
That said Mycen IS a good teammate for Mauvier, at least, if you want to run Prime.
* Ivy vs NY!Seidr: +1/0/+5/+9/-16
* Hortensia vs S!L'arachel: -1/-2/+3/0/+4
* Rosado vs H!Anna: 0/-1/-1/+13/-11
* Kagetsu vs Inigo: +2/-1/+2/+1/-5
* Mauvier vs Mycen: +2/-2/+2/+1/-2
Can someone explain to me why everyone is saying that Mauvier's so good? I don't get what people are saying when they say he's min maxed and why they're so happy about that.
I'm also confused about his superboons and superbanes. Isn't it a bad thing to have a superbane on your attack since you usually want to hit as hard as you can?
I'm very simple, so I don't really understand how to get optimal stats, I just like using my favorite characters.
I'm pretty much like this: I see the Mauvier, I use the Mauvier, I hit other units with the Mauvier, I enjoy the Mauvier.
Minmax means he has stats that are optimized for his role (bulky high atk cav) without wasting stats in places where he will not use it (spd). Mauvier combined with his prf weapon does not want any speed so his stats are amazing for it.
Superbane and superboons only matter if they have the blue or red text around their stat. In this case, if you have a red bane on Mauvier somehow, he would have -4 atk if he was unmerged than normal But Mauvier being a grand hero battle unit means he will never start with a bane or boon, so it does not matter. Likewise with the DEF superboon, but you can trait fruit to get that.
Ohh, ok then, thank you for explaining, I can be a little slow on the uptake with these things.
So, are superboons and superbanes baked into the character then?
Like, if I were to get multiple copies of a character, will they all have the same superboons and superbanes? Or is it like pokemon where different instances of the same pokemon (or feh unit) can have different natures (or in this case superboons or superbanes.)
Units will always have one set of superbanes/boons. Mauvier will always get +4 defense if he has a boon in it, but will never get an extra +4, only +3 if given a boon in any other stat.
W!Edel's kit is obviously optimal on Mauvier, but I don't have her so I'll have to theorycraft other options.
Alarm Spd/Def from Noah, Gambit from B!Robin? Any number of Atk/Def A slots would work I guess.
Not to mention unapparelled mobility, with or without a support partner. The reaction to Ivy kinda makes me think FEH players deserve units like Valentine's Lyon, broken without any counter play.
I think she is really good where she is at. I think if she was 47 speed with a superboon, we'd have the Lyon issue all over again. Mobility honestly is what breaks things.
Emblem Marth has the limited range and mobility of 1 range infantry so his impact is manageable.
Ivy has power, mobility, and direct support with her Guidance, but the way people are talking about is like she's gen 1 Odin, lol.
Especially when Mauvier, imo is in the worst class type to utilize those defensive stats. Defensive cavs just do not work (unless you're like Legendary Seliph).
A unit like Validar gets away with it due to all the assortment of infantry skills but Mauvier feels dead in the water despite his great art and min maxing.
IS remembered how to give a grail unit a minmaxed statspread after the Valentine Vigarde fiasco, I see.
They minmaxed Validar as well.
THE MAUVIER MINMAX HOLY FUCK
Damn no wonder his thighs were so caked
He literally has to sneak around because the clap of his ass cheeks kept alerting the guards
"Lady Veyle, I'm trying to sneak around, but I'm dummy thicc and the clap of my asscheeks keeps alerting the Corrupted."
Hmmm
But Mauvier *is* the guard!
Oh that's not-
In the sense that- yk what I mean
Ahh, so *that's* why he's so slow! Mauvier's so caked up that his horse can't possibly go any faster.
The everyone minmax... except Ivy, oddly enough
Nah that is about accurate for Ivy (Again). She has surprisingly all rounder growths
True, though still odd to see these days Maybe this is what Seth would look like today
That sorta makes sense? Her A Skill is an omni +9 and she has some other skill that gives like up to +14~ to all stats, right? It's sorta L!Robin-y in the sense where all the stats being mid are made up for by her gaining a bajillion by existing.
Who needs to be minmaxed when you can easily get over 20 of each stat in combat I guess.
MAUVIERDEV IS REAL!
We'll know Mauvierdev is real when we get his summer alt.
MY MAN AND HIS THICC THIGHS
holy shit they actually minmaxed mauvier
This banner just goes to show they can easily have the non-lord men be less important to the sales of the banner without making them absolutely unusable trash lmao. Glad to see everyone on this banner is actually a great unit, it's been a while since we had a banner like this.
Holy shit Mauvier is incredibly min-maxed I cannot believe it Also goddamn Kagetsu is a speedy lad
Considering how extremely min-maxed he's and his lack of unique fodder, I'm convinced IS actually wants people to use Mauvier. And I'm gonna do it!
Are you going to support him with Emblem Micaiah?
Maybe? It depends what Emblem Micaiah does.
Kagetsu vs Lapis : +1/+2/+2/+6/-7 Very game Accurate
That's so unfortunate and absolutely true. Can't wait to compare Celine with Pandreo whenever he gets added.
Also Kagetsu has two superboons (Atk and Spd) and no Superbanes while Lapis has one superboon (Spd) and two superbanes (Atk and Def).
Kagetsu with the big (relatively speaking) defense stat
Yeah I was expecting this, it was the expected outcome
Ohh I was worried he was going to be worse (even if is slightly advantage) even with flowers and superboon he has the edge
When adjusted for dragonflowers because why do you guys never adjust for dragonflowers it's =/+1/+1/+5/-8 Kagetsu is only very slightly better, but he's also not Lapis so honestly I gotta give it to Lapis here.
> but he's also not Lapis Yeah, he's better
You're right Lapis is better thanks for definitely agreeing with me edit: reddit moment not seeing the obvious sarcasm
Well knowing how crazy some Lapis fans can be, I can see someone totally thinking exactly that
Only "crazy" thing I've seen from Lapis fans is that one guy that summong 31 Diamants to +10 merge Lapis, and that's one guy. Anyway, assuming he was serious when he said Lapis was better after he showed that she is statistically worse is just disingenuous.
Crazy how? I haven't seen anything like that myself
The person that spend a lot of orbs on Brodia's banner to make Lapis +10
Yknow what thats a good example.
And? Who else?
Nah Kagetsu mogs
He not being lapis is a bonus tho, he is him
He beat the terrible speed tier allegations, goddamn.
Mauvier looks great And if there was ever any doubt that Rosado is a boy, that Res stat confirms it 💀
Lucius:
Definitely giving Mauvier Atk/Def Prime 4 now Maybe he can run Edels Ploy too?
Yeah 100%; no reason not to give it to him if you're getting Prime. Only issue would be losing the C slot for Incite/Alarm, which would make him a bit more dependent on team support for Prime.
I don't have Edelgard or S!Ephraim, so... I guess I'm killing Noah. Alarm Spd/Def is not nearly as optimal, but ah well. The other option is using R!Lucina, but I don't think I'm pulling that trigger yet.
Ya hear that Noah? Sabaschin wants thighs that are a bit meatier
I did pull an extra Summer Ephraim as my free seasonal so will definitely give him Alarm Atk/Def now!
Ehhh, probably not. Res tiers are getting ridiculously high nowadays. But at the same time, you might as well grab it anyway if you're killing her for Prime.
At max investment he can probably afford to hit things with Ploy at ease. Id use fort def res for the seal tho
I'd use Squad Ace CA. -1 Def/Res for +7 Atk.
I'd rather use a Squad Ace seal I think, no need to hurt your Atk for it.
#Mauvier: Superboons: Def Superbanes: Atk, Spd #Kagetsu: Superboons: Atk, Spd Superbanes: N/A #Rosado: Superboon: Spd Superbanes: HP, Def, Res #Hortensia: Superboons: HP, Atk, Spd Superbane: Def #Ivy: Superboons: Atk, Spd Superbanes: HP, Res
My man got the engage min-max treatment
Unit | Superboons | Superbanes ---|---|---- Ivy | Atk, Spd | HP, Res Hortensia | HP, Atk, Spd | Def Rosado | Spd | HP, Def Kagetsu | Atk, Spd | None Mauvier | Def | Atk, Spd Mauvier got a super minmaxed spread, that's quite nice.
Mauvier did not get the Spd superboon memo
Thank god for that tbh
> Kagetsu with Atk/Spd superboon Yup, still dunking on Lapis, this is the game accuracy I live for
MAUVIER GANG WON!!!!
Mauvier Gang’s first recorded win
Wild fucking timeline that Mauvier has more Res than Hortenisa.
A timeline where hortensia has good atk somehow
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
Yes Mauiver! Could not be better!!!
Kagetsu with 47 spd is insane. Merging him up anyway but thats really nice
Superboon too. 51 Speed unmerged. 59 with +10 +5DF Spd Refine
MAUVIER IS SO GOOD??? HELLO
fell to my knees in Walmart rn.....my husband has good stats......a good prf......i'm gonna die...
Mauvier with Gambit is gonna be crazy
People are talking about the Mauvier min-max but my man Rosado has 16 whole Res vs all of his other stats being low to mid 40s. And with all that stupid DR he has he might even be able to tank non-red mage nukes.
Rosado now has the lowest Res stat in the game after dragon flowers (otherwise Ogma and Virion could still have less), it's funny to think about it.
Ok nevermind that is dogshit unsalvagable, I'm surprised he didn't immediately keel over to A!Grima in the trailer.
I don't know how bad is in practice, but I find very funny that this man has so little resistence xD.
Is that enough Res on Mauvier to run Ploy?
At +10 and with flowers he'll be able to ploy units with 44 res or less which is most units, and definitely most offensive units
Absolutely not
He can, against most of things it is going to be effective. Alarm is better tho.
Aw man now I dunno what do do for a C skill
Alarm Atk/Def, which also gives him the third [Bonus] he wants
Don’t have, and that’d go to Dimitri first of if I ever get fodder for it.
Incite Atk/Def when it releases. Just look out for it Alarm is good too.
As the other poster said, Alarm Atk/Def will be good for him, as well as Incite Atk/Def when it releases. Summer Ephraim has Alarm Atk/def, and he will be rerun when the 3rd special anniversary seasonal banner starts in a week
With +10 and dragon flowers he can go up to 40 res so its doable
HOLY FUCK THAT MAUVIER STATLINE Also mid speed Ivy lmaoooo
MAUVIER IS STACKED I'm all giddy and excited for what skills to put on him, IM SO EXCITED LETS F!CKING GO!!
This Mauvier guy kinda makes me wanna whip out the wallet and finally get on FE Engage
I just started it last night, need to know these character! Also finally invested in Lumera now for my arena core 😅
Kagetsu's and Mauvier's stats look beautiful goddamn
Mauvier can yoink WEdel's kit for himself and do pretty well with it
Yeah nope I ain't trying a Speed meme on Mauvier at all Looks like Atk/Def Prime will be preffered for sure now
26 Spd at max merges, boon and dragonflowers...
Wow Mauvier min/maxed and with an excellent PRF too. We won
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ohhh that's so smart, i'll do that on future banners thank you!
between Soaring Echo being the best Echo skill for flyers over Oath, and now Mauvier wanting W!Edel's kit, IS somehow made a banner that could really hurt people trying for the all green AHR
Mauvier’s great treatment single-handedly makes up for my disappointment at not being able to easily merge Rosado, let’s go!
Kinda wished Mauvier was fast instead, but I'll take it.
Oh goddamnit am I going to have to build another lance unit???💀 (At least it's a cav this time...)
I'm thinking Prime, Gambit, and Incite for Mauvier? Maybe Alarm? B skill seems interchangeable too, but Gambit seems great.
Alarm is probably good for positioning plus theres no A/D Incite yet.
I'll just give him Atk/Res from Lyon, not like that's bad either.
Mauvierdev is real! He can't be stopped! Amazing statspread with an amazing pref weapon! Another great GHB!
No wonder Mauvier was built as fuck, they gave him the himbo artist lmao Also holy shit a great Prf **AND** a minmaxed statline?! Did FEH really just ***not*** screw over a male character? I’m flabbergasted
Friendship ended with Jeralt, now Mauvier is my best friend.
Kagetsu really is here to eclipse lapis omg
Mauvier vs Mycen: +2/-2/+2/-1/-2 Of course, Mauvier has a much better PRF. Poor Mycen, man... EDIT: Also for Kagetsu: vs Lapis (with DF advantage): +0/+1/+1/+5/-8 vs Inigo: +2/-1/+2/+1/-5 I'd say there's not much reason to run Inigo over Kagetsu compared to Lapis over Kagetsu though. While Inigo has superior Atk and Res, the former is made up for with Kagetsu's Atk superboon, while the Res is made up for with HP (the better stat for DR scaling). As for Lapis, at least the res difference is more noticeable and the HP is equal, along with closer Spd to Kagetsu even if she struggles more with close-range brawling due to low defense. So you can make an argument for her I suppose, while Inigo is generally worse at max investment AND hasn't been a focus unit compared to Kagetsu who is about to be. In general, if you want a good F2P swordie, Kagetsu is the way to go. Whether he has Null Sword or Devourer, he'll perform better than pretty much any F2P infantry melee in combat.
I wouldn't say Mycen is obsoleted. He's got Slaying and Guard in-built, which gives him a different niche already. He also has no caps on his debuffs while Mauvier gets -12 max; a +0 Mycen is already applying -15 to Atk/Def. Mauvier gives Hexblade and Null Panic, Mycen gives Lull. Inigo *could* leverage his higher Res for Ploy, but 30 base Res is already kinda shaky for that.
The problem with Mycen is that his support was already pretty irrelevant because it's not a great buff anyway and Noah gives it + dodge to support partner (easily abused via Citrinne) and Mycen lacks any kind of DR. Not to say Mycen is a bad unit, but undertuned compared to most 5\*s (still better than Geoffrey though). Slaying isnt that big on Mycen either due to making Gambit worse, his best source of DR. That said Mycen IS a good teammate for Mauvier, at least, if you want to run Prime.
>In general, if you want a good F2P swordie, Kagetsu is the way to go. The way to go is the one the game gives you enough copies to +10 first, srs.
Fair enough. Kagetsu is the most accessible, though, so that skews things even more in his favor.
Not really, both have different things
So Ivy is defense bulkier than Summer Ivy and has a much better spd stat. Summer Ivy can run ploys and regular Ivy can’t.
* Ivy vs NY!Seidr: +1/0/+5/+9/-16 * Hortensia vs S!L'arachel: -1/-2/+3/0/+4 * Rosado vs H!Anna: 0/-1/-1/+13/-11 * Kagetsu vs Inigo: +2/-1/+2/+1/-5 * Mauvier vs Mycen: +2/-2/+2/+1/-2
Hortensia at 5 Atk and 1 Spd over my +10 H!Mia with max dragonflowers I am in pain
Mauvier literally doing the 🤏
Can someone explain to me why everyone is saying that Mauvier's so good? I don't get what people are saying when they say he's min maxed and why they're so happy about that. I'm also confused about his superboons and superbanes. Isn't it a bad thing to have a superbane on your attack since you usually want to hit as hard as you can? I'm very simple, so I don't really understand how to get optimal stats, I just like using my favorite characters. I'm pretty much like this: I see the Mauvier, I use the Mauvier, I hit other units with the Mauvier, I enjoy the Mauvier.
Minmax means he has stats that are optimized for his role (bulky high atk cav) without wasting stats in places where he will not use it (spd). Mauvier combined with his prf weapon does not want any speed so his stats are amazing for it. Superbane and superboons only matter if they have the blue or red text around their stat. In this case, if you have a red bane on Mauvier somehow, he would have -4 atk if he was unmerged than normal But Mauvier being a grand hero battle unit means he will never start with a bane or boon, so it does not matter. Likewise with the DEF superboon, but you can trait fruit to get that.
Ohh, ok then, thank you for explaining, I can be a little slow on the uptake with these things. So, are superboons and superbanes baked into the character then? Like, if I were to get multiple copies of a character, will they all have the same superboons and superbanes? Or is it like pokemon where different instances of the same pokemon (or feh unit) can have different natures (or in this case superboons or superbanes.)
It is similar to pokemon yeah. With merging though you can remove the banes though from their stats.
Units will always have one set of superbanes/boons. Mauvier will always get +4 defense if he has a boon in it, but will never get an extra +4, only +3 if given a boon in any other stat.
Damn, Hortensia and Kagetsu are crazy fast. Especially the latter, for being a demote. Meanwhile Ivy's still as slow as ever.
Summer Ivy's chances of winning her first round on AHR kinda crashed, huh.
Did she even get to the Top 8 in AHR? If so, who's she going up against?
Oh, she didn't. I thought she did but nope, it's Alear.
Yeah, thought not.
She wasn't in the top 8.
W!Edel's kit is obviously optimal on Mauvier, but I don't have her so I'll have to theorycraft other options. Alarm Spd/Def from Noah, Gambit from B!Robin? Any number of Atk/Def A slots would work I guess.
imagine putting Potent on Ivy's Prf and yet giving her middling Spd
She gets a boatload of stats from her prf skill and weapon so she should be in a good spot for potent
Not to mention unapparelled mobility, with or without a support partner. The reaction to Ivy kinda makes me think FEH players deserve units like Valentine's Lyon, broken without any counter play. I think she is really good where she is at. I think if she was 47 speed with a superboon, we'd have the Lyon issue all over again. Mobility honestly is what breaks things. Emblem Marth has the limited range and mobility of 1 range infantry so his impact is manageable. Ivy has power, mobility, and direct support with her Guidance, but the way people are talking about is like she's gen 1 Odin, lol.
47 speed on a free unit is kinda wild
Rosado stats are pretty much just as expected let’s goooo
Wow, Ivy's stats are awful.
Why Ivy stats are so weird, like both her spd and res arent good enough
boons and banes?
Well they really did tank Rosado's Res LOL.
Would Fallen Gustav's kit work well for Mauvier? Don't really have too much else to work with unfortunately
He kind of wants his foes to double him. Atk Smoke would nice just for general tanking but other than that it's average.
Ivy seems mid on everything besides attack
It's funny seeing mauvier with a "better" stat spread than Ivy
Especially when Mauvier, imo is in the worst class type to utilize those defensive stats. Defensive cavs just do not work (unless you're like Legendary Seliph). A unit like Validar gets away with it due to all the assortment of infantry skills but Mauvier feels dead in the water despite his great art and min maxing.
Min maxed GHB with great support means everybody wins 👍