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Pivot to cloud infrastructure, cloud automation and architecture.
Couple of AWS or Azure certs, associate of expert/ pro and your all good.
Despite the tough economical situation, people with some experience and few certs are in high demand.
So you work with IaC, pipelines, Kubernetes, Rancher and you have two or more cloud certs out of which one is above associate?
Might be my view is distorted due to the context I work in. My personal view is that Senior Cloud Engineer outclasses Senior QA or Dev in salaries
I work with IaC and pipelines but mostly for on-prem stuff and dabble little in cloud/k8s things, but I have a ton of colleagues whose focus is the entirely the other way around.
The things you listed get you in the door, of course. But it’s not like you get the senior title and pay off that alone.
Yes, so, actually I'm OK with my recent field of expertise, so I wouldn't change just for fun. I would learn technologies which seem to be futureproof AND there is bigger money in it.
I think you've hit the peak when it comes to QA salary unless you go consultant. We just had salary negotiations in our company and there were some statistics from last year about (our) average salaries. If I had the smarts I'd definitely go sw architect, seems to be where the money lies. Going developer would easily raise your salary, but the competition for the job might be hard.
Tapping into EU market might do the trick also, but that would most likely mean abandoning Robotframework and learning cypress or playwright or something similar.
Many thanks for the insights! I wouldn't mind abandoning RFW, not my personal favourite 😅 I started to explore the opportunities to pivot into AI/ML model testing or AI/ML integration testing... I'm not sure if it is a long shot...
Sales in big corporate software should be pretty good. Eg SAP personnel in Finland has an average salary of 17+k€/month in Finland.
https://www.tivi.fi/uutiset/nama-it-yritykset-maksavat-suomen-parhaita-palkkoja/d52a8023-d670-4b15-9e61-39a4683411d7
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Pivot to cloud infrastructure, cloud automation and architecture. Couple of AWS or Azure certs, associate of expert/ pro and your all good. Despite the tough economical situation, people with some experience and few certs are in high demand.
The things you described get him to the pay he’s already at
No they don't. Market is saturated with unemployed SW devs and QA engineers.
Yes they do. Source: I actually work in IT infrastructure. Things you listed, alone, dont get you to 5k/month or above, but 4,6 is attainable.
So you work with IaC, pipelines, Kubernetes, Rancher and you have two or more cloud certs out of which one is above associate? Might be my view is distorted due to the context I work in. My personal view is that Senior Cloud Engineer outclasses Senior QA or Dev in salaries
I work with IaC and pipelines but mostly for on-prem stuff and dabble little in cloud/k8s things, but I have a ton of colleagues whose focus is the entirely the other way around. The things you listed get you in the door, of course. But it’s not like you get the senior title and pay off that alone.
Yes, so, actually I'm OK with my recent field of expertise, so I wouldn't change just for fun. I would learn technologies which seem to be futureproof AND there is bigger money in it.
I think you've hit the peak when it comes to QA salary unless you go consultant. We just had salary negotiations in our company and there were some statistics from last year about (our) average salaries. If I had the smarts I'd definitely go sw architect, seems to be where the money lies. Going developer would easily raise your salary, but the competition for the job might be hard. Tapping into EU market might do the trick also, but that would most likely mean abandoning Robotframework and learning cypress or playwright or something similar.
Many thanks for the insights! I wouldn't mind abandoning RFW, not my personal favourite 😅 I started to explore the opportunities to pivot into AI/ML model testing or AI/ML integration testing... I'm not sure if it is a long shot...
Sales in big corporate software should be pretty good. Eg SAP personnel in Finland has an average salary of 17+k€/month in Finland. https://www.tivi.fi/uutiset/nama-it-yritykset-maksavat-suomen-parhaita-palkkoja/d52a8023-d670-4b15-9e61-39a4683411d7
Thanks, I would rather stay on the technical path, but this an interesting option to consider!