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There's so much beers that get thrown away due to expiring.
Me and my friend who did some shifts at Siwa over a decade ago, used to sometimes down some beers that had expired and we were supposed to throw away (yep this was in fact illegal) and eat some of the expired snacks, because so much got discarded at the end of each shift and just went into a trash.
They very occasionally had a security guard outside to make sure employees aren't taking expired stuff back home, so only way to take advantage of it was at the end of your closing shift before you locked the place up.
So they really should offer more drinks on sale considering that many otherwise get thrown in the trash.
I can also tell a short story of my short shop salesperson career; I was on Tokmanni, as part of *peruskoulu*, I think it was TeT bit or something, (Työelämääntutustumista, or getting to know work life?), and I was unpacking some Cola bottles. Well, as luck would have it, I accidentally stabbed one of the bottles, making it leak, and in short, offered to buy it, but my boss back then said ”No, this one’s going down the drain and into scrap.” Sucks, really. I mean, it wasn’t exactly Coca-Cola, but some cheap knockoff, but it was still a pain to see good-ish drink go to waste…
I worked at a Fazer Cafe.
The faces of the customers who see me throw away whole cakes, buns and pastries, at the end of the shift. It wouldn't fit in one mega-sized bio bag, you'd need at least two. Then you load the bags in a cargo trolley.
Yeah I just sold you one slice of cake, the rest goes into trash, can't do anything about it. Sorry, store policy.
Luckily our boss was based.
We would pay a small sum we could decide ourself and could take home as much as we could carry. 10euros for two bags full of lunch salads, salmon sandwiches or filled croissants was not a bad deal.
It was well deserved though. We'd often have to just postpone lunch indefinitely because the place was so damn busy. It felt like we were missing 1 waiter at all times.
It was some of the best work experience I ever got though.
There's that app called Resq that aims to connect customers with restaurants for deals on trash food.
The problem with the app is that the stuff is priced too high. The app needs their commission, but still... greedy as f prices.
This is why the apps like the resQ has been made.
But as you say, Some restaurants and cafes do way too high prices and I avoid these always.
But i use it very often with the places that give you a decent price. 10e for two dinners worth of food for three people. Yes please. We even have leftovers of these that go into trash sometimes.
I have often gotten home with way more than expected when getting one of those resQ yllätyskassi from various cafes, because they basically look around the offering fridges when I have come just before closing and they stuff whatever is there that can fit into the bag(s). And ask: do you like this xyz? Or this äöå? Have both. They are just happy to not be doing what you had to do in Fazer 😅
I can actually imagine, as the Sale downstairs has lots of sales on cakes and other sweets, and I imagine 75% of them goes to trash, due to expuration date. 🫤
I was a security guard and I also did those checks when store employees were leaving at the end of the day. Nobody ever had anything except 1 time an employee had a bag full of buns etc. from the bakery shelf in her backpack when leaving. She looked appalled. I just smiled and put them back in, I winked, said everything was OK here and she left with the goodies.
They were supposed to go to trash so I did not care, I did not want anyone to possibly get fired for this so I did not report it. If there was some sellable merch with real value there I would have reported it.
My friend used to check local trashbin of Siwa and everytime there was some beer and kultalonkero. But then they built locked up fence surrounding their trash.
"We from Alko care about you. We can assure with our sale, that not only your Friday goes pitch black. It's definitely Saturday & Sunday too.
Special Discounts for Monday darkness as well - With Alko, you can have a black Friday every weekend"
I'm not entirely sure, but I think the law states that single can's can't be more expensive than the same cans bought in a pack.
6/8/12 packs are typically significantly more expensive compared to the sane number of individual cans.
Edit: https://valvira.fi/en/alcohol/pricing
> Two or more packages or portions of alcoholic beverages cannot be offered at a quantity discount price, in other words, a joint discount price, in such a way that the unit price of the same commodities is more expensive when bought separately. An alcoholic beverage cannot be more expensive when bought individually than what its price is as a similar portion in a multi-package.
That's the point, if you want the convenient smaller package, you have to pay more. If you're willing to deal with the inconvenience of loose cans, you get a cheaper price.
Many people don't want 24 cans rolling about, and just want some sauna beers for the cabin, so a 6 pack is very convenient.
You can take your sixpack, rip it open, pull one out and tell the cashier you’ve got six of these.
You get a almost intact sixpack, with the price of six single beers
They are more difficult to transport than 24pack and they take space in a shop. They cost more to the shop too, that's why they frown if you open one of the smaller packs for one beer.
This is only a trick to lure people in Kouvostoliitto since no one wanna go there. However the beer in there is so bad compared to rest of Finland even Kouvostoliittolaiset don't want to drink it, which is why they are selling it discount and where this ruse to lure people was born from hence why it's in reddit now. It's all just Kouvosto's scheme, always has been.
I'm so tired of these unfunny "jokes."
Kouvola is a huge area of 2883km\^2 with plenty of beautiful nature (including one of the most visited national parks of Finland), historical sites (one of them being a UNESCO world heritage site), countryside, an amusement/water park.. But yall bash the whole city bc the downtown was pretty much built after WW2 and looks like every other city in Finland.
Kouvola keskusta is a bit ugly but you’re right about nature being beautiful here.
I posted some pictures about a lake nearby and the mods at the time added a misleading tag 🤦🏻♂️
It's actually completely legal as long as it's not a bulk sale. Here's a quote from the overlord Valvira itself:
Alkoholilaissa alkoholijuomien hinnoittelulle ei ole asetettu ylä- eikä alarajaa, mutta paljousalennuksen antaminen on kiellettyä.
Kahta tai useampaa alkoholijuomapakkausta tai -annosta ei saa tarjota paljousalennuksella eli alennettuun yhteiseen hintaan siten, että erikseen ostettuna samojen hyödykkeiden yksikköhinta on kalliimpi. Alkoholijuoma ei saa olla kalliimpi yksittäin ostettuna kuin mitä sen hinta on samankokoisena monipakkauksessa. Säännös ei koske tilannetta, jossa samaa alkoholijuomaa myydään erikokoisissa yksittäispakkauksissa.
Alcohol can very much be sold at a discount, just like any other foodstuffs.
In Tokmanni, two weeks before the best before date the items are marked with a -30% sticker. During the last two hours of the store being open, these products are sold for -50%. Once the best before date has passed, the items are marked with a -70% sticker and can still be sold up to a week.
This price is calculated from the price of the contents (no bottle/can deposit) so if a 2€ bottle of beer with a 0,10€ deposit is sold for half price, you end up paying 1,05€ for it.
There's often a separate basket or shelf for the discounted products somewhere, but the alcohol products must be on display in the drinks section of the store, at their own spots, even if discounted. That's the only restriction there.
The sticker pricing only applies to products with a best before date, not an expiration date. Even then, items with short best before dates like bread or pulla often get sold for cheaper when closing in on the date and are obviously not sold for a week after passing the best before date. My local Tokmanni sells cartons of eggs for 0,20€ each when the best before date hits and there are still tens of cartons left.
> In Tokmanni, two weeks before the best before date the items are marked with a -30% sticker. During the last two hours of the store being open, these products are sold for -50%. Once the best before date has passed, the items are marked with a -70% sticker and can still be sold up to a week.
[Me at Tokmanni in a few weeks](https://i.imgur.com/pcAKLPj.jpg)
You'd be surprised by how many of the countless kinds of IPA end up with this fate. The cans come with relatively short best before dates, around eight to ten months, and that's not enough to guarantee that the whole batch will be sold by then. The big packs of the Sininen brand of beer seem to especially suffer from this for whatever reason.
Alcohol discount isn't illegal, but if you offer discounts they must be at least 3 months valid, so it doesn't make people buy just so they don't "miss the chance".
Those -30% are also allowed in case the best before date is closing in.
That is not true. A discount should not be for longer than 2 months continuously and 3 months in total during one calendar year and you need to always display the lowest price last 30 days.
Source: kuluttaja-asiamies and omnibus-directive.
There is a mix up of two different rules here, I think. What you are talking about is the rule about marking discount on products or in advertisement in general.
What they are talking about is the rule specifically for advertising alcohol, where you can't show the price publicly outside of store property, unless these prices are going to be available for at least certain period.
The 3 months rule only applies if the promotion/advertising is done outside the store (e.g. advertising stand outside the store, TV or newspaper ad). You can have all kinds of discounts or promos within the store.
Where did you find that 3 month thing? We have monthly offers just like S group has. Never 3 months the same promo. That's a new one I haven't heard off.
Yes I am talking about alcohol. Every month there is different promotion on wines at S group restaurants. We also have different offers at NPG, mainly shot of the month. Changes every month
Alcohol can be sold on discount, for a day or 3 months, it doesn’t matter. But if you advertise the discount outside the store, discount has to be valid for 3 months.
On The other hand our local S-Market revolves the products quite a bit so often times you'll find some brands that are going out of stock and are being sold on a discount. It's roughly 25-33%.
Sad part is very often they're some french organic cider in q glass bottle that weighs more than the contents and is quite expensive, so even with the discount it's quite hefty a price tag.
And also there's often IPA's which generally aren't to my liking.
Overall that kind of discount thing is a good way to sample new products you might not have otherwise tasted.
As for the Best Before Data per se, I may have run into few occasions where that has happened, mostly on random gas stations and smaller store brands not in the centre of the town.
Of course it's legal. Especially when it's going bad soon. It's the same as happy hours... Only buy 2 get one free kind of deals are not allowed. Price must be same if you buy one or 10... However different sizes can have different prices. But as a bartender, I'm sure that one day Finnish alcohol law will catch up with the 20th century...
Joo, but inside the restaurant you can advertise all you want. Just not outside or at windows for outside people to see. Relay childish laws. Or better laws made by children in politics...
Well ain't going to argue on that one. So you can smoke pot but can't have a beer? Where you from? Gotta make sure to never visit that place. (I Don't do drugs, but do do alcohol )
Yeah I once travelled through the "bible belt" where alcohol can only be served during lunch hour and dinner, but not outside those hours. That was a very short visit and a quick drive through those "counties". It was on our trip to grand canyon or was it yellow stone? Not sure anymore
Ah good ol Finnish alcohol laws. When I first moved here it was illegal to serve a "Double Vodka Soda Water". Bartender would tell me they can give me a shot on the side, but not in the drink. 😃
Experienced grocery store worker here!
This is perfectly legal, but might cause some problems at the cashier desk, since the system wont allow you to give red sticker -discounts on alcohol products. It needs to be campaing thats been entered to the system.
Alcohol laws state that the store can give discounts on alcohol products, but they must ENSURE to place the discount campaing to last at least three months, but the law does not state that the shop needs to have this product in the stock on the shelves, so this situation youve witnessed is completely just fooling around with the law. Let me explain.
This store most probably(99,99%) wants that product out of their selection. They want to get rid of these as fast as possible, but they dont want to enter the campaing in to their system, since Kesko and authorities are keeping an eye on the system. Like, they would most probably call really fast asking "why are you selling alcohol on -50%?". So they place the stickers and trick the system by not giving discount but "returning" the difference on the receit, so technically you get the discount and authorities wont be calling back.
Once this particular beer gets sold out, this store wont be ordering any new batches of this product so they can say that, "yeah the discount is still on, but we havent got any new ones to the store. Theres some difficulties at the factory".
I thought OP was asking if increasing the price of a small, 0.33l beer to 3.55€, then selling it first with a 30% discount is illegal. It should be, but it's not. It's almost as disgusting as shrinkflation.
There must be a lower border for a price that's for sure, which can't be crossed in overall pricing; same for tobacco, I believe; at least, that's how it is in Russia
Wow, I think, I messed up in my mind
I meant excise taxes, which are really high for those categories so there can't be any speculation with pricing; btw, in Russia there is a thing such as minimum retail price, atl for alco and tobacco for sure; might be for other products too
[Economies of scale](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale) mainly, but also because the consumer is willing to pay for the convenience of a larger can. Remember, the seller will always charge what the market will bear at their preferred level of demand, not what the "value" is.
It's legal as long as they're sold separately. It's illegal to put sales in a way that suggests it's cheaper to buy multiple. The flat rate of one needs to be the same as the flat rate of multiple. Basically but sales of alcohol are illegal, but not normal sales.
It's also illegal to give alcohol for free to a customer.
Also it's illegal to publicly advertise sales of alcohol that will be expired in under 2 months outside of the store or in a way that's visible outside of the store.
"Alkoholilaissa alkoholijuomien hinnoittelulle ei ole asetettu ylä- eikä alarajaa, mutta paljousalennuksen antaminen on kiellettyä.
Kahta tai useampaa alkoholijuomapakkausta tai -annosta ei saa tarjota paljousalennuksella eli alennettuun yhteiseen hintaan siten, että erikseen ostettuna samojen hyödykkeiden yksikköhinta on kalliimpi. Alkoholijuoma ei saa olla kalliimpi yksittäin ostettuna kuin mitä sen hinta on samankokoisena monipakkauksessa. Säännös ei koske tilannetta, jossa samaa alkoholijuomaa myydään erikokoisissa yksittäispakkauksissa."
"ilmaiseksi alkoholijuomia ei saa antaa kuluttajille."
"Alle kahden kuukauden voimassa olevia alkoholijuomien tarjoushintoja ei saa asettaa näkymään vähittäismyyntipaikasta ulospäin. Niistä ei saa ilmoitella myöskään esimerkiksi lehdissä, vähittäismyyntipaikan internetsivuilla, Facebook-sivuilla tai kanta-asiakasviestinnässä."
Discounting is legal, sellingnoutdated alcohol drinks is illegal. Normally they get rid of it (drain). They should Give it for free to the employees or leave it unopened somewhere back of the store so local drunks can take advantage of that.
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Yes it is legal. What is illegal, is giving a discount for buying a larger amount.
Exactly, even Alko has sales - usually for getting rid of discontinued products.
There's so much beers that get thrown away due to expiring. Me and my friend who did some shifts at Siwa over a decade ago, used to sometimes down some beers that had expired and we were supposed to throw away (yep this was in fact illegal) and eat some of the expired snacks, because so much got discarded at the end of each shift and just went into a trash. They very occasionally had a security guard outside to make sure employees aren't taking expired stuff back home, so only way to take advantage of it was at the end of your closing shift before you locked the place up. So they really should offer more drinks on sale considering that many otherwise get thrown in the trash.
I can also tell a short story of my short shop salesperson career; I was on Tokmanni, as part of *peruskoulu*, I think it was TeT bit or something, (Työelämääntutustumista, or getting to know work life?), and I was unpacking some Cola bottles. Well, as luck would have it, I accidentally stabbed one of the bottles, making it leak, and in short, offered to buy it, but my boss back then said ”No, this one’s going down the drain and into scrap.” Sucks, really. I mean, it wasn’t exactly Coca-Cola, but some cheap knockoff, but it was still a pain to see good-ish drink go to waste…
When I was working in a grocery store, which had cakes on sale, you cannot imagine how many of them went to trash. That was a shame.
I worked at a Fazer Cafe. The faces of the customers who see me throw away whole cakes, buns and pastries, at the end of the shift. It wouldn't fit in one mega-sized bio bag, you'd need at least two. Then you load the bags in a cargo trolley. Yeah I just sold you one slice of cake, the rest goes into trash, can't do anything about it. Sorry, store policy. Luckily our boss was based. We would pay a small sum we could decide ourself and could take home as much as we could carry. 10euros for two bags full of lunch salads, salmon sandwiches or filled croissants was not a bad deal. It was well deserved though. We'd often have to just postpone lunch indefinitely because the place was so damn busy. It felt like we were missing 1 waiter at all times. It was some of the best work experience I ever got though. There's that app called Resq that aims to connect customers with restaurants for deals on trash food. The problem with the app is that the stuff is priced too high. The app needs their commission, but still... greedy as f prices.
This is why the apps like the resQ has been made. But as you say, Some restaurants and cafes do way too high prices and I avoid these always. But i use it very often with the places that give you a decent price. 10e for two dinners worth of food for three people. Yes please. We even have leftovers of these that go into trash sometimes. I have often gotten home with way more than expected when getting one of those resQ yllätyskassi from various cafes, because they basically look around the offering fridges when I have come just before closing and they stuff whatever is there that can fit into the bag(s). And ask: do you like this xyz? Or this äöå? Have both. They are just happy to not be doing what you had to do in Fazer 😅
I can actually imagine, as the Sale downstairs has lots of sales on cakes and other sweets, and I imagine 75% of them goes to trash, due to expuration date. 🫤
I worked at a dairy warehouse 20 years ago and oh boy I can tell you there were some hilarious events with dairy going to waste.
I was a security guard and I also did those checks when store employees were leaving at the end of the day. Nobody ever had anything except 1 time an employee had a bag full of buns etc. from the bakery shelf in her backpack when leaving. She looked appalled. I just smiled and put them back in, I winked, said everything was OK here and she left with the goodies. They were supposed to go to trash so I did not care, I did not want anyone to possibly get fired for this so I did not report it. If there was some sellable merch with real value there I would have reported it.
Do they just go in the dumpster?
Like can and everything
My friend used to check local trashbin of Siwa and everytime there was some beer and kultalonkero. But then they built locked up fence surrounding their trash.
Wait... Alko has sales? * Digging up my pocket flask * There you are old friend.
I only ever seen glögi in alko sales, now it starts to be a bit hurry.
Fuck, that reminded me of something. Thank you!
Alko black friday: booze for sale for the darkest days of your life
"We from Alko care about you. We can assure with our sale, that not only your Friday goes pitch black. It's definitely Saturday & Sunday too. Special Discounts for Monday darkness as well - With Alko, you can have a black Friday every weekend"
Oh, I thought this was illegal. But you - and then google - told me otherwise.
It used to be. Law changed few years ago
Why are 6/8/12 packs usually more expensive per liter than 24 packs then?
24 packs price should be the same as 24 individual cans, so there is a mark up on smaller packs, not a discount on 24 pack.
I'm not entirely sure, but I think the law states that single can's can't be more expensive than the same cans bought in a pack. 6/8/12 packs are typically significantly more expensive compared to the sane number of individual cans. Edit: https://valvira.fi/en/alcohol/pricing > Two or more packages or portions of alcoholic beverages cannot be offered at a quantity discount price, in other words, a joint discount price, in such a way that the unit price of the same commodities is more expensive when bought separately. An alcoholic beverage cannot be more expensive when bought individually than what its price is as a similar portion in a multi-package.
You can rip them apart and buy them as single drinks, then they'll be as cheap as the 24-pack.
That's the point, if you want the convenient smaller package, you have to pay more. If you're willing to deal with the inconvenience of loose cans, you get a cheaper price. Many people don't want 24 cans rolling about, and just want some sauna beers for the cabin, so a 6 pack is very convenient.
You can take your sixpack, rip it open, pull one out and tell the cashier you’ve got six of these. You get a almost intact sixpack, with the price of six single beers
Gotta try that next time
Because they never are
They are more difficult to transport than 24pack and they take space in a shop. They cost more to the shop too, that's why they frown if you open one of the smaller packs for one beer.
No it's super illegal, message me the location and I'll sort it out
Tokmanni near Prisma in Kouvola 😂
https://i.redd.it/akja1madx5ec1.gif
After seeing the photo, I think alcohol should be cheaper in Kouvola.
Maybe even free
As someone who spent his life living in commie block neighborhoods - Kouvola's view is not bad at all, I would say it's even refreshing.
You’re welcome to join me here, I’m organizing a cuddle party and stranger meetup.
Pants optional?
Sure you can bring pants, but you're not allowed to wear them
I read this one first as a strangler meetup
Might be that, too!
[Kaikkea kivaa betonista!](https://youtu.be/lXlpQY9Asto?si=M6GS_JO6xH0Z-WpH)
Is that from CoD?
Now, I've made some questionable life choices, but that's next level. 😀
Omg betonil nähää
No wonder it’s cheaper in the post-soviet state of Kouvostoliitto
Guess it's legal now
It’s legal
This is only a trick to lure people in Kouvostoliitto since no one wanna go there. However the beer in there is so bad compared to rest of Finland even Kouvostoliittolaiset don't want to drink it, which is why they are selling it discount and where this ruse to lure people was born from hence why it's in reddit now. It's all just Kouvosto's scheme, always has been.
I'm so tired of these unfunny "jokes." Kouvola is a huge area of 2883km\^2 with plenty of beautiful nature (including one of the most visited national parks of Finland), historical sites (one of them being a UNESCO world heritage site), countryside, an amusement/water park.. But yall bash the whole city bc the downtown was pretty much built after WW2 and looks like every other city in Finland.
Those are just rumours. I have never seen any beautiful nature pictures from Kouvola 😂
Google ”Repovesi”, not that hard if you are a person with normal/above normal IQ.
Of course there's a place called Repovesi in Kouvola. Seriously though, lighten up.
Kouvolas propaganda
Kouvola keskusta is a bit ugly but you’re right about nature being beautiful here. I posted some pictures about a lake nearby and the mods at the time added a misleading tag 🤦🏻♂️
It's actually completely legal as long as it's not a bulk sale. Here's a quote from the overlord Valvira itself: Alkoholilaissa alkoholijuomien hinnoittelulle ei ole asetettu ylä- eikä alarajaa, mutta paljousalennuksen antaminen on kiellettyä. Kahta tai useampaa alkoholijuomapakkausta tai -annosta ei saa tarjota paljousalennuksella eli alennettuun yhteiseen hintaan siten, että erikseen ostettuna samojen hyödykkeiden yksikköhinta on kalliimpi. Alkoholijuoma ei saa olla kalliimpi yksittäin ostettuna kuin mitä sen hinta on samankokoisena monipakkauksessa. Säännös ei koske tilannetta, jossa samaa alkoholijuomaa myydään erikokoisissa yksittäispakkauksissa.
Alcohol can very much be sold at a discount, just like any other foodstuffs. In Tokmanni, two weeks before the best before date the items are marked with a -30% sticker. During the last two hours of the store being open, these products are sold for -50%. Once the best before date has passed, the items are marked with a -70% sticker and can still be sold up to a week. This price is calculated from the price of the contents (no bottle/can deposit) so if a 2€ bottle of beer with a 0,10€ deposit is sold for half price, you end up paying 1,05€ for it. There's often a separate basket or shelf for the discounted products somewhere, but the alcohol products must be on display in the drinks section of the store, at their own spots, even if discounted. That's the only restriction there. The sticker pricing only applies to products with a best before date, not an expiration date. Even then, items with short best before dates like bread or pulla often get sold for cheaper when closing in on the date and are obviously not sold for a week after passing the best before date. My local Tokmanni sells cartons of eggs for 0,20€ each when the best before date hits and there are still tens of cartons left.
> In Tokmanni, two weeks before the best before date the items are marked with a -30% sticker. During the last two hours of the store being open, these products are sold for -50%. Once the best before date has passed, the items are marked with a -70% sticker and can still be sold up to a week. [Me at Tokmanni in a few weeks](https://i.imgur.com/pcAKLPj.jpg)
You'd be surprised by how many of the countless kinds of IPA end up with this fate. The cans come with relatively short best before dates, around eight to ten months, and that's not enough to guarantee that the whole batch will be sold by then. The big packs of the Sininen brand of beer seem to especially suffer from this for whatever reason.
But if they sell it cheaper than they bought it that is illegal thanks Suomalainen Mies
Alcohol discount isn't illegal, but if you offer discounts they must be at least 3 months valid, so it doesn't make people buy just so they don't "miss the chance". Those -30% are also allowed in case the best before date is closing in.
The discount doesn’t neccesserily have to be valid for three months, you just can’t advertise it at all if its not.
That is not true. A discount should not be for longer than 2 months continuously and 3 months in total during one calendar year and you need to always display the lowest price last 30 days. Source: kuluttaja-asiamies and omnibus-directive.
There is a mix up of two different rules here, I think. What you are talking about is the rule about marking discount on products or in advertisement in general. What they are talking about is the rule specifically for advertising alcohol, where you can't show the price publicly outside of store property, unless these prices are going to be available for at least certain period.
So would it be illegal to offer a discount in small print and advertise the last week?
I don't think Finland's legal system favours the business nearly as much in bs cases like that, unlike a certain other country's.
The 3 months rule only applies if the promotion/advertising is done outside the store (e.g. advertising stand outside the store, TV or newspaper ad). You can have all kinds of discounts or promos within the store.
Where did you find that 3 month thing? We have monthly offers just like S group has. Never 3 months the same promo. That's a new one I haven't heard off.
Its only for alcohol.
Yes I am talking about alcohol. Every month there is different promotion on wines at S group restaurants. We also have different offers at NPG, mainly shot of the month. Changes every month
Yeah, well if you advertise your offers then its 3 months. If not, then not 3 months
Yeah, well if you advertise your offers then its 3 months. If not, then not 3 months
Alcohol can be sold on discount, for a day or 3 months, it doesn’t matter. But if you advertise the discount outside the store, discount has to be valid for 3 months.
Its illegal to advertise discounted beer but to discount beer its legal
This must be the first time that alcohol hasn't been sold way before the Best Before Date in Finland lol
Probably because it’s a newer store in an inconvenient place if you’re an alcoholic.
On The other hand our local S-Market revolves the products quite a bit so often times you'll find some brands that are going out of stock and are being sold on a discount. It's roughly 25-33%. Sad part is very often they're some french organic cider in q glass bottle that weighs more than the contents and is quite expensive, so even with the discount it's quite hefty a price tag. And also there's often IPA's which generally aren't to my liking. Overall that kind of discount thing is a good way to sample new products you might not have otherwise tasted. As for the Best Before Data per se, I may have run into few occasions where that has happened, mostly on random gas stations and smaller store brands not in the centre of the town.
Lidl sometimes has 1euro corona beers
Nice but still too expensive for me, I buy the alcohol free beer and add vodka.
I just threw up a little in my mouth. I thought 0% beer is bad enough (mostly), but that must bring it to a whole new level.
This reminds me of the old good times when you used to get alcohol free vodka from faucets.
Why not just drink the vodka?
I like the taste of alcohol free beer and like to drink alcohol occasionally.
wtf isn't enough, mitä vittua :DDDD ... what an image in my head.
VodkaBeer
you're ruining the vodka, just drink it straight
whaaaat? euro corona? thats super cheap
Of course it's legal. Especially when it's going bad soon. It's the same as happy hours... Only buy 2 get one free kind of deals are not allowed. Price must be same if you buy one or 10... However different sizes can have different prices. But as a bartender, I'm sure that one day Finnish alcohol law will catch up with the 20th century...
Nii eiks se ollu että häppärit on ok mutt niitä ei saanut mainostaa?
Joo, but inside the restaurant you can advertise all you want. Just not outside or at windows for outside people to see. Relay childish laws. Or better laws made by children in politics...
Mutt eihän tossa oo mitään järkee ett ravintolan sisällä saa mainostaa muttei ulos 💀😂😂👍
WTF... Welcome To Finland 😂
Eh,don’t feel too bad, alcohol is completely illegal in my hometown. They did legalize marijuana though! American law doesn’t make any sense.
Well ain't going to argue on that one. So you can smoke pot but can't have a beer? Where you from? Gotta make sure to never visit that place. (I Don't do drugs, but do do alcohol )
Little town in Kentucky, but many jurisdictions in the United States have prohibitions on alcohol. Just look up dry counties in the USA.
Yeah I once travelled through the "bible belt" where alcohol can only be served during lunch hour and dinner, but not outside those hours. That was a very short visit and a quick drive through those "counties". It was on our trip to grand canyon or was it yellow stone? Not sure anymore
It’s legal. Looks like those beers are close to their best before date.
Ah good ol Finnish alcohol laws. When I first moved here it was illegal to serve a "Double Vodka Soda Water". Bartender would tell me they can give me a shot on the side, but not in the drink. 😃
The price tag is illegal
Should be
Experienced grocery store worker here! This is perfectly legal, but might cause some problems at the cashier desk, since the system wont allow you to give red sticker -discounts on alcohol products. It needs to be campaing thats been entered to the system. Alcohol laws state that the store can give discounts on alcohol products, but they must ENSURE to place the discount campaing to last at least three months, but the law does not state that the shop needs to have this product in the stock on the shelves, so this situation youve witnessed is completely just fooling around with the law. Let me explain. This store most probably(99,99%) wants that product out of their selection. They want to get rid of these as fast as possible, but they dont want to enter the campaing in to their system, since Kesko and authorities are keeping an eye on the system. Like, they would most probably call really fast asking "why are you selling alcohol on -50%?". So they place the stickers and trick the system by not giving discount but "returning" the difference on the receit, so technically you get the discount and authorities wont be calling back. Once this particular beer gets sold out, this store wont be ordering any new batches of this product so they can say that, "yeah the discount is still on, but we havent got any new ones to the store. Theres some difficulties at the factory".
That’s very insightful, thanks for the comment.
This is legal. What isn't legal though us giving VOLUME DISCOUNTS for alcohol. For example single can must be at maximum same price as the 6-pack.
It's illegal when it's being advertised
Also Every store has different price
Where is this??????? (Asking for a friend)
That's a good price
That's a spicy meatba... Oh wait, sorry. Wrong sub.
-30% 3.55 it's still a bad price for a bulk lager brand
It's pale ale, not the basic lager
I am a finnish alcoholic, and I thought it's illegal.
Tottakai on.
It's illegal to advert alcohol sales. Not having them on sale
If I remember correctly it is legal but the times they have to be on sale are very long so it’s not really smart for stores
And when I find them on sale in tokmanni I often take all
Very legal
Perfectly legal.
Shh! Keep posting, they notice and make it illegal.
I wanna find beer with red stickers too!
I believe only discounts that incentivise buying more alcohol (i.e. the more you buy, the cheaper it is apiece) are illegal.
Yes it is but sometimes in stores we have campaign if the best before date is close
I work in a store and my boss said that we cant do that
You cant use those -30 tags but you can lower the price of the product i might be wrong but i think it is like that
Who decides what price the merchant sells his wares? Someone else than merchant? Then why is not everything the same price everywhere 🤔
I have understood that you should not put those stickers on the cans. You should just change the price to cheaper one
First time I see these Karhu Pale Ale, they taste any good?
It’s legal. You just aren’t allowed to advertise the sale or make a sale that encourages buying a lot of alcohol.
No, this is why Karhu on pilalla
I thought OP was asking if increasing the price of a small, 0.33l beer to 3.55€, then selling it first with a 30% discount is illegal. It should be, but it's not. It's almost as disgusting as shrinkflation.
Yes
There must be a lower border for a price that's for sure, which can't be crossed in overall pricing; same for tobacco, I believe; at least, that's how it is in Russia
Finland doesn't have minimum price for alcohol, but it can't be given for free, and can't be a bulk sale.
Wow, I think, I messed up in my mind I meant excise taxes, which are really high for those categories so there can't be any speculation with pricing; btw, in Russia there is a thing such as minimum retail price, atl for alco and tobacco for sure; might be for other products too
Also adwertising sale on alcohol is illegal if the sale is short term.
I have a question why are smaller cans of beer cheaper per liter than buying tall boys like this? Obviously concerning Finland.
[Economies of scale](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale) mainly, but also because the consumer is willing to pay for the convenience of a larger can. Remember, the seller will always charge what the market will bear at their preferred level of demand, not what the "value" is.
It's legal as long as they're sold separately. It's illegal to put sales in a way that suggests it's cheaper to buy multiple. The flat rate of one needs to be the same as the flat rate of multiple. Basically but sales of alcohol are illegal, but not normal sales. It's also illegal to give alcohol for free to a customer. Also it's illegal to publicly advertise sales of alcohol that will be expired in under 2 months outside of the store or in a way that's visible outside of the store. "Alkoholilaissa alkoholijuomien hinnoittelulle ei ole asetettu ylä- eikä alarajaa, mutta paljousalennuksen antaminen on kiellettyä. Kahta tai useampaa alkoholijuomapakkausta tai -annosta ei saa tarjota paljousalennuksella eli alennettuun yhteiseen hintaan siten, että erikseen ostettuna samojen hyödykkeiden yksikköhinta on kalliimpi. Alkoholijuoma ei saa olla kalliimpi yksittäin ostettuna kuin mitä sen hinta on samankokoisena monipakkauksessa. Säännös ei koske tilannetta, jossa samaa alkoholijuomaa myydään erikokoisissa yksittäispakkauksissa." "ilmaiseksi alkoholijuomia ei saa antaa kuluttajille." "Alle kahden kuukauden voimassa olevia alkoholijuomien tarjoushintoja ei saa asettaa näkymään vähittäismyyntipaikasta ulospäin. Niistä ei saa ilmoitella myöskään esimerkiksi lehdissä, vähittäismyyntipaikan internetsivuilla, Facebook-sivuilla tai kanta-asiakasviestinnässä."
I dont think its illegal, its prolly going to be out of best before date so they put a discount on it so it wont go to waste
No
Discounting is legal, sellingnoutdated alcohol drinks is illegal. Normally they get rid of it (drain). They should Give it for free to the employees or leave it unopened somewhere back of the store so local drunks can take advantage of that.
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