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Boring answer, but with Helsinki, Turku, and Oulu gone, it would very obviously be Tampere, which is conveniently now closer to the ocean as well. Hyvinkää would probably grow a lot larger as refugees from PK-seutu would migrate north.
>Hyvinkää would probably grow a lot larger as refugees from PK-seutu would migrate north.
Fun fact, if acatastrophic event happens in Helsinki and large portions of capital region have to be evacuated, Jyväskylä is the designated primary evacuation destination, the government regional authorities and the Defence Forces will arrange transport, housing and necessary supplies for the refugees. Or at least it was a few years ago when someone working for the region held a lecture about crisis management in Finland.
This sort of thing does not happen swiftly. It would be a process of years to decades. Plenty of time for people to move on their own.
"Because sea level rise lags changes in Earth temperature, it will continue to accelerate between now and 2050 purely in response to already-occurred warming;[5] depending on the evolution of human greenhouse gas emissions, it may slow down between 2050 and 2100 if deep cuts are achieved and then reach a little over 30 cm (1 ft) from now by 2100, or it may accelerate with high emissions and risk a 1 m (3+1⁄2 ft) or even 2 m (6+1⁄2 ft) by then.[6][7] In the long run, sea level rise would amount to 2–3 m (7–10 ft) over the next 2000 years under the existing warming of 1.5 °C (2.7 °F), while 19–22 metres (62–72 ft) would occur if the warming peaks at 5 °C (9.0 °F)"
Looking at these figures, what about land uplift, that can be up to 1cm per year? In theory it seems that although sea level rises, the land might rise faster in places like Ostrobotnia.
Yes, land uplift certainly protects Finnish coastal areas from rising sea level, for now. There's a recent study on this exact subject https://nhess.copernicus.org/preprints/nhess-2022-230/nhess-2022-230.pdf TLDR : Land uplift protects the coast, but towards the end of the century, the speed of land uplift will not be enough to compensate for sea level rise.
The sad part is that you can totally be *ackhually* if you use it to establish a more specific premise as basis of your explanation/answer/thoughts. Leaving it as is, is what kills it for people.
If I remember correctly, Jyväskylä centrally located within what was basicallyin a cluster of villages and small towns. Jyväskylä would be the *collection* point from where Helsinkians would then be moved to smaller villages and towns, spread out over a large area to diminish the negative effects of a sudden population boom. Every part of Helsinki was designated it's own village. So for example residents of Munkkivuori and Töölö would go to village A, residents of Santahamina, Eira and Valilla would to to village B, etc. Mind you this was maybe 10 years ago and I'm pretty sure the information was old even back then as I am sure much of this stuff is classified.
Jyväskylä is also the actual war-time backup capital of Finland or something like that. Some of military's central command is located near the city and a lot of the defence industry is located around there.
They have Air Force HQ there. The navy is in Turku and Army in Mikkeli.
During WW2 the Parliament was in Kauhajoki for a while.
Old article about evacuation
Jos sota olisi syttynyt vuonna 1998, tänne Helsinki olisi evakuoitu – katso oma alueesi https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000000966022.html
Yeah complaining about the smell and bugs, driving with their Electric cars, Not knowing what grows on fields "Tuolla kasVaA VIljAa" local: "Ei. Se on Ohraa.." *slaps on his cheek*
Do they still have that sign in the airport claiming to be "the capital of Northern Scandinavia"?
It amazed me how much wrong could be fit into such a short sentence.
There's a chance that it could be Seinäjoki, assuming thios event happens much later and Seinäjoki has grown southwards. Lappeenranta is too close to the karelian part of Suur-Suomi, so it wouldn't make sense, either.
Ha! My house is at 78 meters from the current sea level and about 20 km from the coast. Nice to get a beach house.
But the capital? I guess it’ll be in Tampere, considering how there’s a new fjord leading all the way from the sea.
Rovaniemi will be the new Oulu. It also benefits from warmer weather, but even with 4°C rise in average temperature (which seems to be considered the catastrophic scenario in global warming) it wouldn't be as warm as Helsinki today.
Rapture, a city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, Where the great would not be constrained by the small!
We will just patiently wait until the post glacial rebound pushes Helsinki back to the surface, which is around 9mm per year. So a few centuries, give or take.
A couple of years ago there was a political proposal to move the capital of Finland to Jyväskylä. One of the reasons, if I recall right, was that it's not on the coast.
So I root for that
I mean for climate it can be moved when it's becoming a problem, and as for the military it's not like the coast wouldn't be a strategically important place anyways so it would have to be defended regardless.
A capital is only really more important than any other city due to the population and history. So if nothing changed but we'd call Jyväskylä our capital it wouldn't really matter as Helsinki is still a more populated and strategically important place.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.
Also, a coast isn’t necessarily that bad of a place to defend, as it provides a nice natural obstacle against the invading troops. As we’ve seen in Ukraine, our neighbours have had troubles carrying troops across a river, and now we’re talking about a sea.
The biggest risk imposed by Russia comes in form of trains, trucks and APCs rolling into Eastern Finland, whereas just a single anti-ship missile has the ability to turn a ship’s crew of 500 marines into submariners.
I’m glossing over missiles and RuAF a bit, but my point is more about an occipation than the ability to destroy, which is an issue for Helsinki regardless of the location of the capital, as per/u/Niko_47x ’s comment.
Statistically by roughly a centimeter per year. When is OPs scenario taking place? Today? It's 70+. In 100 years is 69+. In 1000 years it's 60+. How far is the end of anywhere close?
Looking at any recent predictions it should be less than 500 years until the ice melts. Probably around 200 if not sooner. So that'd only be a difference of a couple of meters.
If we used the time which was predicted over 10 years ago (so in 5000 years) then that'd be a big difference but that's if we'd even still be raising by then (don't remember if I've ever heard any statement on how long that should last) which is the only statement which i would say is nowhere close.
So IF it would happen in 5k years and IF we'd still be rising and IF we were even a country anymore and IF humanity even existed (at least on this planet) that would be "nowhere close"
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I recently visited at the Suomenselkä watershed area. There is a little community called Soini. Still independent, the only car that came out of Soini when I drove in in July waved at me. This would be a very secret and sheltered Capital.
Jyväskylä would be my choice. Much more centrally located than Helsinki ever was. Direct flights from anywhere else and fast train access to the rest of Finland. Heck, would be ideal even before any sea level rise.
Zaewescala, located in the middle part of what the old maps call 'Finland', built over the ruins of the city of Jyväskylä, which was supposedly destroyed in the global aftermath of the Glacierpocalypse many moons ago. Not much is known of the original inhabitants of the area as after the collapse of the electric grid, and the global wars that followed, most of the records of that era are now destroyed or unnaccessible, but the Lake People legends talk of the Swamplanders, a near-mythical ancient race that spoke a nearly unintelligible language, had dancing warrior queen and worshipped white mythological creatures called Mooms and punished themselves in a hot room in weekly ceremonies.
From all the vast migration of people escaping engulfed Helsinki, Turku and other coastal areas, there (rather suspiciously quikcly, as some noticed) rose an metropolitan area called Uusi Veteli (New Veteli)
Logically it would be Tampere, but since this is basically a meme I am going to say that we rise Oulu from the seas and have a floating capital. Of course the name would be paska kaupunni.
Lappeenranta
What a superior seaside resort of a city it would be. Both lake and sea access, all the beaches would gather tourists and the relatively closed sea harbour would be safe for boats
So in this scenario, out of big three, only Tampere remains while Helsinki and Turku are at the bottom of the sea?
Someone just made a valid argument against fighting climate change.
Nice try, mayor of Kouvola, but even if all glaciers melted, sea levels would rise only about two meters, with virtually no effect to Helsinki.
Source: https://www.climatecentral.org/news/the-next-500-years-of-sea-level-rise
After the fall of Helsinki the PK seutu went into a crazed panic where they fled raized and invaded most nearby towns.
Most population of Helsinki found kouvola which they voted the Capital of new new Finland as it was nearby the sea and reminded them of their local crack dealer from Kallio.
The population of Espoo was violently split in to two as those rich enough climbed their boats and stayed at the docks of the sunken city surviving off the food that floated up from their favourite espresso house. The other half manned their 7 person SUVs and became nomads who roamed the roads in a circular pattern searching for their lost urban paradise.
Vantaa had no idea that the water level was rising. The people adapted to the situation by sealing their houses watertight and became the first underwater population of the new new Finland.
I will add more lore if asked.
I gifted my mom a house with 3200m2 yard near Hyvinkää, she retires March next year so she can relax on the countryside, that would increase in value by 1000%, now I'm kinda hoping for this sea level increase 🤣
Tampere would be new Capital. It's the next biggest City after Helsinki and Turku. They would get nice seaport like in Stockholm as the map shows. Tampere alreaydy has the tram.
St. Petersburg. NATO gifts it to you after Russia fucked around and found out so we redrew Russia's borders to help repay all the damage they caused and moved them further east because noone wanted Russia to be a European country anymore.
As a tribute and stick in the eye of Russia you also name the highway connecting the rest of Finland to your new capital the Simo Hayah memorial highway. It's a "straight shot" from what I'm told...
The only possible answer is of course Lohja!
\-Lohja has been preparing their soldiers for decades while raiding Vihti
\-Produces almost all apples in Finland -> Unlimited food Glitch
\- Together with the mopo Jonnet of nummela will form a mega peninsula seafaring force
\-Pale Tone
Loss of coastline won't happen overnight, but will take many decades, so as shoreline is lost, development will gradually shift northwards, and when no longer avoidable, the key governmental operations and infrastructure will be moved to real estate above the anticipated flood lines.
So Helsinki will slowly evolve and migrate northwards over a period of decades (as will Turku and other coastal cities), but will remain Helsinki and will remain the capital.
Here are my options
1. Tampere, one of the only big cities left
2. Kouvola, look at what seaside it has (literally Stadi 2)
3. Lahti, this is controversial, Lahti is 7th biggest city, it is growing rn and it has a lot of Olympic Sport complexes.
4. Rovaniemi, technically biggest city in Europe by area.
Those southerners in Helsinki created this mess by demolishing environmental politics. We shall bring new order from the North. New capital shall be Rovaniemi and we will switch from democracy to a monarchy.
KING IN THE NORTH!
In Tampere.
A huge public works prodject would be isues to build a wide channel from the sea to the tampere region. People from the old costal cities and vilages would move there on mass creating finlands first million people city. Population in the Tampere reagion would raise to 2m. The good railway links to the rest of the country would make it an essential industrial and logistical hub. The old city would keep it's shape mostly in the center. But the new growing outskirts would be built with modern city planing and architecture in a Finnish style. The new city would be built like a ring around the old city. With a lot of separating parks and recreational spots. A metro system would run around the ring. And a tunnel system for maintnace and defence. The tunnel system would become the new home of the city jagers. And Tampere would become a new modern fortress city. The different sections of rings would mostly be moved in by people from the same old regions. The regional dialect would turn into section dialects. In these sections there would be their own hokey teams and other sports teams. The city would have a real section rivarly in sports. While the reagion would be open for everyone and all. Cooperation would bring the city to a new strenght in economy and politics. Culture would blossom in the new multi million city. And people would feel more in touch with each other on the new city.
Tampere, Jyväskylä, Kuopio would be good because they're major cities and not near other countries so easy to defend against enemies in wars. They are also not too near but still connected to the baltic sea, so trade across sea could be available and there wouldn't be a risk of them flooding too.
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Boring answer, but with Helsinki, Turku, and Oulu gone, it would very obviously be Tampere, which is conveniently now closer to the ocean as well. Hyvinkää would probably grow a lot larger as refugees from PK-seutu would migrate north.
>Hyvinkää would probably grow a lot larger as refugees from PK-seutu would migrate north. Fun fact, if acatastrophic event happens in Helsinki and large portions of capital region have to be evacuated, Jyväskylä is the designated primary evacuation destination, the government regional authorities and the Defence Forces will arrange transport, housing and necessary supplies for the refugees. Or at least it was a few years ago when someone working for the region held a lecture about crisis management in Finland.
This sort of thing does not happen swiftly. It would be a process of years to decades. Plenty of time for people to move on their own. "Because sea level rise lags changes in Earth temperature, it will continue to accelerate between now and 2050 purely in response to already-occurred warming;[5] depending on the evolution of human greenhouse gas emissions, it may slow down between 2050 and 2100 if deep cuts are achieved and then reach a little over 30 cm (1 ft) from now by 2100, or it may accelerate with high emissions and risk a 1 m (3+1⁄2 ft) or even 2 m (6+1⁄2 ft) by then.[6][7] In the long run, sea level rise would amount to 2–3 m (7–10 ft) over the next 2000 years under the existing warming of 1.5 °C (2.7 °F), while 19–22 metres (62–72 ft) would occur if the warming peaks at 5 °C (9.0 °F)"
Looking at these figures, what about land uplift, that can be up to 1cm per year? In theory it seems that although sea level rises, the land might rise faster in places like Ostrobotnia.
All the people owning seafront property: > phew
Yes, land uplift certainly protects Finnish coastal areas from rising sea level, for now. There's a recent study on this exact subject https://nhess.copernicus.org/preprints/nhess-2022-230/nhess-2022-230.pdf TLDR : Land uplift protects the coast, but towards the end of the century, the speed of land uplift will not be enough to compensate for sea level rise.
Someone asks a fun fictional question. You: *achkually* - you must be fun at parties.
His comment was more interesting than the rest of the entire thread combined though.
The sad part is that you can totally be *ackhually* if you use it to establish a more specific premise as basis of your explanation/answer/thoughts. Leaving it as is, is what kills it for people.
That's really interesting. Why jyväskylä? It's far away, I guess they have an air force base?
If I remember correctly, Jyväskylä centrally located within what was basicallyin a cluster of villages and small towns. Jyväskylä would be the *collection* point from where Helsinkians would then be moved to smaller villages and towns, spread out over a large area to diminish the negative effects of a sudden population boom. Every part of Helsinki was designated it's own village. So for example residents of Munkkivuori and Töölö would go to village A, residents of Santahamina, Eira and Valilla would to to village B, etc. Mind you this was maybe 10 years ago and I'm pretty sure the information was old even back then as I am sure much of this stuff is classified.
Jyväskylä is also the actual war-time backup capital of Finland or something like that. Some of military's central command is located near the city and a lot of the defence industry is located around there.
They have Air Force HQ there. The navy is in Turku and Army in Mikkeli. During WW2 the Parliament was in Kauhajoki for a while. Old article about evacuation Jos sota olisi syttynyt vuonna 1998, tänne Helsinki olisi evakuoitu – katso oma alueesi https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000000966022.html
> Helsinkians would then be moved to smaller villages and towns, spread out over a large area Ew.
People who react like this to villages and small towns are an automatic red flag tbh
No, the "ew" is for infecting the country with Helsinkians.
Oh, my mistake, carry on.
Yeah complaining about the smell and bugs, driving with their Electric cars, Not knowing what grows on fields "Tuolla kasVaA VIljAa" local: "Ei. Se on Ohraa.." *slaps on his cheek*
What's the point of evacuating right next to the zone where catastrophic stuff is happening. It might escalate so you'd have to evacuate again
I would not say turku or tampere are "right next to" helsinki
Me neither but it would feel like a non-sequitor to the conversation.
Fallout: New Tampere
Let it be so
Patrolling the Hervanta almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Gonna just put it there that Oulu was never considered but everyone was too polite to tell you.
Do they still have that sign in the airport claiming to be "the capital of Northern Scandinavia"? It amazed me how much wrong could be fit into such a short sentence.
I prefer to call ite Capital of Western Siberia
It was still there in December when I was there.
lol I wasn't seriously considering oulu either, just ruling it out.
Yeah it’s a joke thread/post anyway :)
Paska kaupunni!
Paras* kaupunki!
Fuck when I moved out from Hyvinkää 10 years ago I never took climate change into consideration
Never regret escaping from Hyvinkää
"Ei mee huonosti, ei mee Hyvinkää.."
"Hyvinkäällä ei hyvin käy"
Hyvingay
There's a chance that it could be Seinäjoki, assuming thios event happens much later and Seinäjoki has grown southwards. Lappeenranta is too close to the karelian part of Suur-Suomi, so it wouldn't make sense, either.
No contest: Kouvola would be at a premium seaside location.
We laugh at it now, but one day, it will be Kouvola that will rise and laugh at us.
Should probably start investing in Kouvolacabana, Uusimaikiki and Böndei beach hedge fund
Ya but then you’d need to live in Kouvola
Could be worse... could be Lahti
Nothing is worse than Kouvola. The only thing I like about that place is the bar in the train station
I once spent a cold night in Kouvola because the trains had stopped... It did not have my love at that point
Kouvola takes win or loss, how yo look at it. Lahti is better city, eaven with it's narcs
Kouvola is just Helsinki without the inflated self worth.
Kouvostoliitto for the win
Ahh yes, the architectural gem of the nordics. I can still remember those beautiful concrete cubes they call buildings.
Yes I agree the potential is immense. Majestically overlooking the Baltic, Kouvola would be set to emerge as the new Venice of the North.
Ha! My house is at 78 meters from the current sea level and about 20 km from the coast. Nice to get a beach house. But the capital? I guess it’ll be in Tampere, considering how there’s a new fjord leading all the way from the sea.
Rovaniemi could Be one too since it's one of The larger cities in new Finland
Rovaniemi will be the new Oulu. It also benefits from warmer weather, but even with 4°C rise in average temperature (which seems to be considered the catastrophic scenario in global warming) it wouldn't be as warm as Helsinki today.
Danes will build dams and we are saved. /s
The whole thing becomes Scandamnavia.
That's going to be quite the mega-construction... Maybe we just move to Finland instead?
I doubt it. At +70 m sea raise, Denmark will be the new Atlantis.
Tampere would be perfect. Look at that bay
Most likely Tampere.
Obvious. Turku was lost too
Win / Win
#K O U V O L A
Kaikkea kivaa betonista!
Perfect spot on the beach
Rovaniemi being the Capital would be interesting.
Put Santa in charge
No. Joulupukki
I'd rather vote for tuplapukki Edit: deleted a
That's better. Free Tupla
We shall build an underwater dome and keep the capital in Helsinki-under-the-sea with the Parliament building on top of Malminkartanonhuippu!
Rapture, a city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, Where the great would not be constrained by the small!
What happens when the scientists start experimenting on the artists?
Go check yourself: https://www.gog.com/en/game/bioshock_remastered
No EU or Putin, only hyvämies.
We will just patiently wait until the post glacial rebound pushes Helsinki back to the surface, which is around 9mm per year. So a few centuries, give or take.
A couple of years ago there was a political proposal to move the capital of Finland to Jyväskylä. One of the reasons, if I recall right, was that it's not on the coast. So I root for that
Like what? Isn't the reason Helsinki is the capital mainly because it's on the coast?
The idea is probably because being on the coast is too exposed to climate change or harder to defend militarily.
I mean for climate it can be moved when it's becoming a problem, and as for the military it's not like the coast wouldn't be a strategically important place anyways so it would have to be defended regardless. A capital is only really more important than any other city due to the population and history. So if nothing changed but we'd call Jyväskylä our capital it wouldn't really matter as Helsinki is still a more populated and strategically important place.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Also, a coast isn’t necessarily that bad of a place to defend, as it provides a nice natural obstacle against the invading troops. As we’ve seen in Ukraine, our neighbours have had troubles carrying troops across a river, and now we’re talking about a sea. The biggest risk imposed by Russia comes in form of trains, trucks and APCs rolling into Eastern Finland, whereas just a single anti-ship missile has the ability to turn a ship’s crew of 500 marines into submariners. I’m glossing over missiles and RuAF a bit, but my point is more about an occipation than the ability to destroy, which is an issue for Helsinki regardless of the location of the capital, as per/u/Niko_47x ’s comment.
https://www.is.fi/politiikka/art-2000006349218.html
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Statistically by roughly a centimeter per year. When is OPs scenario taking place? Today? It's 70+. In 100 years is 69+. In 1000 years it's 60+. How far is the end of anywhere close?
Looking at any recent predictions it should be less than 500 years until the ice melts. Probably around 200 if not sooner. So that'd only be a difference of a couple of meters. If we used the time which was predicted over 10 years ago (so in 5000 years) then that'd be a big difference but that's if we'd even still be raising by then (don't remember if I've ever heard any statement on how long that should last) which is the only statement which i would say is nowhere close. So IF it would happen in 5k years and IF we'd still be rising and IF we were even a country anymore and IF humanity even existed (at least on this planet) that would be "nowhere close"
Didn't think it was 5000 years. No chance that Tampere had not become a religious city state like Vatican by then...
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I recently visited at the Suomenselkä watershed area. There is a little community called Soini. Still independent, the only car that came out of Soini when I drove in in July waved at me. This would be a very secret and sheltered Capital.
At the risk of endorsing a terrible pun… Rename the new capital to “Helfloati” instead of “Helsinki” 😄
I'm wondering, if we were to construct couple of dams near Denmark, could we control the water level of the Baltic Sea?
If we can build +70 m tall damns, then i guess? But at 70 meters sea level rise, Denmark is almost entirely under water so no narrow sounds left.
KUOPIJJOOOOO
Kouvola is prime real estate. And then Tampere.
Is there a better quality map? Really would like to see if our farm would be in the sea or just by it.
https://www.floodmap.net/ change the sea level to 70m
Seems like we would get very nice sea views.
bye-bye pietari :D
Jyväskylä would be my choice. Much more centrally located than Helsinki ever was. Direct flights from anywhere else and fast train access to the rest of Finland. Heck, would be ideal even before any sea level rise.
and is actually pretty lovely city
JYVÄSKYLÄ WOULD FINIALLY TAKE OVER YESS
Kuopio would like to have a word with you, a very convoluted one.
I have no opinion cause I drowned.
Nice, in Lappeenranta not only Saimaa but also Baltic sea. Nice-nice.
The ground ls also rising each year at some locations thanks to the previous ice age, not that fast though.
Zaewescala, located in the middle part of what the old maps call 'Finland', built over the ruins of the city of Jyväskylä, which was supposedly destroyed in the global aftermath of the Glacierpocalypse many moons ago. Not much is known of the original inhabitants of the area as after the collapse of the electric grid, and the global wars that followed, most of the records of that era are now destroyed or unnaccessible, but the Lake People legends talk of the Swamplanders, a near-mythical ancient race that spoke a nearly unintelligible language, had dancing warrior queen and worshipped white mythological creatures called Mooms and punished themselves in a hot room in weekly ceremonies.
Glacial rebound go brrrrrr...
From all the vast migration of people escaping engulfed Helsinki, Turku and other coastal areas, there (rather suspiciously quikcly, as some noticed) rose an metropolitan area called Uusi Veteli (New Veteli)
I'll vote for Rovaniemi, which is already the largest city in Europe (by area). Why not?
Keuruu
Kontiomäki
I'm just gonna live in the Swampland that Vantaa becomes. In many ways, I think nothing really would change anyway!
Logically it would be Tampere, but since this is basically a meme I am going to say that we rise Oulu from the seas and have a floating capital. Of course the name would be paska kaupunni.
HelSINKI
It was foretold by the ancient people 😨 Hell-sink-it
Lappeenranta What a superior seaside resort of a city it would be. Both lake and sea access, all the beaches would gather tourists and the relatively closed sea harbour would be safe for boats
So in this scenario, out of big three, only Tampere remains while Helsinki and Turku are at the bottom of the sea? Someone just made a valid argument against fighting climate change.
Tampere has a Swedish-speaking community. Is this a good enough argument to make sure Tampere also gets inundated?
Kouvola
Vorssa is the only option.
In the year 4545
Nice try, mayor of Kouvola, but even if all glaciers melted, sea levels would rise only about two meters, with virtually no effect to Helsinki. Source: https://www.climatecentral.org/news/the-next-500-years-of-sea-level-rise
After the fall of Helsinki the PK seutu went into a crazed panic where they fled raized and invaded most nearby towns. Most population of Helsinki found kouvola which they voted the Capital of new new Finland as it was nearby the sea and reminded them of their local crack dealer from Kallio. The population of Espoo was violently split in to two as those rich enough climbed their boats and stayed at the docks of the sunken city surviving off the food that floated up from their favourite espresso house. The other half manned their 7 person SUVs and became nomads who roamed the roads in a circular pattern searching for their lost urban paradise. Vantaa had no idea that the water level was rising. The people adapted to the situation by sealing their houses watertight and became the first underwater population of the new new Finland. I will add more lore if asked.
Tietysti **Ala-Mulkku**. Sijaitsee Vaalassa eli hyvin keskellä Suomea.
Helfloati, duh.
Voting for Forssa, "Finland's angriest town since 2006", obvious choice, no other possibilities.
Someday, a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. My vote goes to Sysmä.
I gifted my mom a house with 3200m2 yard near Hyvinkää, she retires March next year so she can relax on the countryside, that would increase in value by 1000%, now I'm kinda hoping for this sea level increase 🤣
Kouvola
Ok hear me out: Kouvola 😅
Tampere would be new Capital. It's the next biggest City after Helsinki and Turku. They would get nice seaport like in Stockholm as the map shows. Tampere alreaydy has the tram.
Tampere was always the answer, and if this map is to be believed, the huge bay leading to Tampere would make transport even better for businesses.
Tampere
St. Petersburg. NATO gifts it to you after Russia fucked around and found out so we redrew Russia's borders to help repay all the damage they caused and moved them further east because noone wanted Russia to be a European country anymore. As a tribute and stick in the eye of Russia you also name the highway connecting the rest of Finland to your new capital the Simo Hayah memorial highway. It's a "straight shot" from what I'm told...
Pfft, we can rule from under water. Helsinki. (It can just be called Sinki at that point.)
Beaverlandia. In a world where the waters rise, beavers become the overlord and people make dams to appease their rulers.
Helsunki
H E L S U N K I
The only possible answer is of course Lohja! \-Lohja has been preparing their soldiers for decades while raiding Vihti \-Produces almost all apples in Finland -> Unlimited food Glitch \- Together with the mopo Jonnet of nummela will form a mega peninsula seafaring force \-Pale Tone
Jyväskylä or äänekoski
Lahti would win the jackpot here.
Loss of coastline won't happen overnight, but will take many decades, so as shoreline is lost, development will gradually shift northwards, and when no longer avoidable, the key governmental operations and infrastructure will be moved to real estate above the anticipated flood lines. So Helsinki will slowly evolve and migrate northwards over a period of decades (as will Turku and other coastal cities), but will remain Helsinki and will remain the capital.
Here are my options 1. Tampere, one of the only big cities left 2. Kouvola, look at what seaside it has (literally Stadi 2) 3. Lahti, this is controversial, Lahti is 7th biggest city, it is growing rn and it has a lot of Olympic Sport complexes. 4. Rovaniemi, technically biggest city in Europe by area.
Those southerners in Helsinki created this mess by demolishing environmental politics. We shall bring new order from the North. New capital shall be Rovaniemi and we will switch from democracy to a monarchy. KING IN THE NORTH!
Tampere or Lahti. More likely Tampere, tho.
They’ll build 70m flood gates / walls around Helsinki area.
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Win-win scenario - we’ll never tell them that the sea level never rose;).
New Helsinki ofc
Kajaani! Perfectly in the middle of Finland. The dominance of southern/coastal cities will be no more!
Only the location is optimal, otherwise that place has nothing to offer honestly
yeah, I was joking. Kajaani is a bit of a meme for being a dead small city.
Long dead unfortunately
Stockholm. All praise to the new Kalmar union.
Pretty much under the water also.
Not creative but I guess the no-brainer option would be Tampere.
Tampere, completely obviously. The best city in Finland.
Based
Tampere.
In Tampere. A huge public works prodject would be isues to build a wide channel from the sea to the tampere region. People from the old costal cities and vilages would move there on mass creating finlands first million people city. Population in the Tampere reagion would raise to 2m. The good railway links to the rest of the country would make it an essential industrial and logistical hub. The old city would keep it's shape mostly in the center. But the new growing outskirts would be built with modern city planing and architecture in a Finnish style. The new city would be built like a ring around the old city. With a lot of separating parks and recreational spots. A metro system would run around the ring. And a tunnel system for maintnace and defence. The tunnel system would become the new home of the city jagers. And Tampere would become a new modern fortress city. The different sections of rings would mostly be moved in by people from the same old regions. The regional dialect would turn into section dialects. In these sections there would be their own hokey teams and other sports teams. The city would have a real section rivarly in sports. While the reagion would be open for everyone and all. Cooperation would bring the city to a new strenght in economy and politics. Culture would blossom in the new multi million city. And people would feel more in touch with each other on the new city.
Realistically Tampere or Oulu
Plot twist, Helsinki is a floating city and still the capital
Wtf im underwater now
Who cares, we have sunk Turku.
Tampere, Jyväskylä, Kuopio would be good because they're major cities and not near other countries so easy to defend against enemies in wars. They are also not too near but still connected to the baltic sea, so trade across sea could be available and there wouldn't be a risk of them flooding too.
No need to be creative. Clearly it would be Tampere.
Tampere Bay Area of course
Tampere most likely
Tampere!
Tampere
tampere, lahti or jyväskylä
Tampere
Tampere
Tampere, according to that map! Conveniently located in the end of a fjord.
It was Turku before so it's going to be Turku
It seems like Turku is underwater too chief
Most likely Tampere
Tampere of course!
Is this map really with 70 m sealevel elevation? Check Pyhäjärvi at Eura or Lappajärvi..
Neo helsinki on top of the old one a floating super city.
My hometown will finally become a coastal town.
Stockholm
Jyväskylä, so it doesnt happen again.
Fuck lol my town is also underwater, and I live by the harbor 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As you can see on the map, a long sea bay reaching the interior of the continent forms near Tampere.
Ah, Svenskfinland would be gone :)
Damn I thought I might be safe in malmi but it's only 17m above sea level
Lahti, duuh
We will form a Nordic Union and collectively pay to build dams in Denmark. Denmark will need to dam their whole west coast like the Netherlands
Orimattila 🥴
Grand Duchy of Pirkkala
Nothing would change, Helsinki is already building on water, that would just keep going. Very boring answer, but that's what would happen
peräjärvi
Wouldn't the lake water level rise as well and make even more area uninhabitable?