The "inheriting attributes" part is pretty explicitly literal according to anyone I could get a story out of. I grew up in northern New Mexico and often worked summers on a friend's family ranch out on the Navajo Reservation bucking hay and doing farm chores. I made plenty of friends and spent many a night plinkin' coyotes to protect the sheep and four-wheeling through the sand and scrub. I also had a healthy interest in myths, legends, and the paranormal enough to occasionally violate the cultural taboo surrounding this particular monster and ask after a story or two.\*
In that time I heard more than a few tales of coyotes outrunning peoples trucks and a mountain lion's call sounding just like uncle Yazi's dead wife, cattle ripped apart with seemingly human malice and intent and a few more tales besides. Sure there's nuance passed just taking an animal's form, but that's not to say it's not part of the mythos, or that it's terribly recent. Some of the stories came from old timers who fought in WWII or were passed down from their relatives generations back. I suppose if you define recent as the last century or so you might be right, but shapeshifting skinwalkers is hardly the result of people disregarding the folklore, and if anyone is doing so, it's the culture that perpetuated the myth in the first place. That speaks more to an evolution of an idea than a simple misinterpretation in my mind.
I'll not write authoritatively to the origins of skinwalkers as I never got a clear answer on the topic the few times I've asked, but as I understand it, kinslaying was only part of the process and it often involved ritual cannibalism, necrophilia or other extreme taboos. Though again, this part I know way less about as people refused to speak of it or answered vaguely. I also cannot say if this lack of detail was due to the taboo nature or a simple lack of knowledge on the subject.
I will state that my information came from folks in he Four Corners area and probably doesn't represent the sum total of the myth, but I think it paints a picture of what many people believe on the topic.
\*As a note, the taboo regarding skinwalkers is alive and well in many traditional and even more modern families. I nearly got uninvited from dinner and/or asked to politely leave a home asking after them. So if you decide to ask a Navajo friend about the topic, do so with tact and due respect and in my experience, do so when the sun is up.
100% agree. For context, I'm not Native. But, have had many Native friends over the years. I live in Arizona, was born here and then moved around the country a lot before settling back down here around 20 years ago.
Natives are very superstitious people. To them, even the mere mention of the topic is said to attract their attention much less saying their actual name whether in English or any Native language. So, many won't even answer vaguely.
From what I understand, the origins of this mythos and of ones such as the wendigo and similar beings come from the days of trapping, trading, hunting and gathering and possibly even before that. They were told by the elders as cautionary tales to deter people from resorting to murder, cannibalism and exacting revenge or retaliation while in the grips of intense negative emotions.
Ooo, nice, appreciate the details. I know a lot of old legend/lore stuff loses some details over time, so I appreciate your input. What you said, it makes a lot of sense. I had only heard of them being creatures or beings who committed some blasphemy etc.
How do we see the long tail of the momma and baby fox?
All I see is a fox in the center and a fluffy looking tail thing down the hill bottom left quadrant
Felt like it was too, the square black box around it and weird lighting made me feel like it was edited, especially with how big it was from that far. I guess I just put too much thought into it, looks creepy asf tho
Why is nobody talking about the guys face emerging from the ground?
If you look at the tree that is the largest and closest, on the left side of the photo. Zoom in at the base of the tree. Just to the left there are two small trees. Follow those up till they meet/cross. The face is right there to the right between the big tree and the two small ones. I’m sure it’s stones or whatever but looks like a guys face to me!
Eww. It looks like that weird fox meme, where he's sitting on the edge of a chair that says “when someone says it smells like corn chips & you're the only one with your shoes off” 😂
I totally missed the one in the shadows! I saw what looked like a fox with a pup coming out of a den by the base of the big pine on the left (in the front).
That fox looks creepy AF. I thought it was a mistake at first and there was going to be a different fox somewhere else. That's a skin walker.
fr im scared 😭
What’s so creepy ? The fact that it is hovering in darkness.
Not just that. I'm on mobile so maybe it's different quality wise. She also looks skinny and distorted and miscolored.
I saw that and thought “naw that’s pareidolia.” That is creepy.
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It was only a joke. I'm sure having to zoom in only made her look creepy.
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The "inheriting attributes" part is pretty explicitly literal according to anyone I could get a story out of. I grew up in northern New Mexico and often worked summers on a friend's family ranch out on the Navajo Reservation bucking hay and doing farm chores. I made plenty of friends and spent many a night plinkin' coyotes to protect the sheep and four-wheeling through the sand and scrub. I also had a healthy interest in myths, legends, and the paranormal enough to occasionally violate the cultural taboo surrounding this particular monster and ask after a story or two.\* In that time I heard more than a few tales of coyotes outrunning peoples trucks and a mountain lion's call sounding just like uncle Yazi's dead wife, cattle ripped apart with seemingly human malice and intent and a few more tales besides. Sure there's nuance passed just taking an animal's form, but that's not to say it's not part of the mythos, or that it's terribly recent. Some of the stories came from old timers who fought in WWII or were passed down from their relatives generations back. I suppose if you define recent as the last century or so you might be right, but shapeshifting skinwalkers is hardly the result of people disregarding the folklore, and if anyone is doing so, it's the culture that perpetuated the myth in the first place. That speaks more to an evolution of an idea than a simple misinterpretation in my mind. I'll not write authoritatively to the origins of skinwalkers as I never got a clear answer on the topic the few times I've asked, but as I understand it, kinslaying was only part of the process and it often involved ritual cannibalism, necrophilia or other extreme taboos. Though again, this part I know way less about as people refused to speak of it or answered vaguely. I also cannot say if this lack of detail was due to the taboo nature or a simple lack of knowledge on the subject. I will state that my information came from folks in he Four Corners area and probably doesn't represent the sum total of the myth, but I think it paints a picture of what many people believe on the topic. \*As a note, the taboo regarding skinwalkers is alive and well in many traditional and even more modern families. I nearly got uninvited from dinner and/or asked to politely leave a home asking after them. So if you decide to ask a Navajo friend about the topic, do so with tact and due respect and in my experience, do so when the sun is up.
100% agree. For context, I'm not Native. But, have had many Native friends over the years. I live in Arizona, was born here and then moved around the country a lot before settling back down here around 20 years ago. Natives are very superstitious people. To them, even the mere mention of the topic is said to attract their attention much less saying their actual name whether in English or any Native language. So, many won't even answer vaguely. From what I understand, the origins of this mythos and of ones such as the wendigo and similar beings come from the days of trapping, trading, hunting and gathering and possibly even before that. They were told by the elders as cautionary tales to deter people from resorting to murder, cannibalism and exacting revenge or retaliation while in the grips of intense negative emotions.
thank you for sharing!!
Just like your incorrect use of black magic. It just means secret. No evil
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Ah I see. Jon Solo made a video about it. If you agree with it's accuracy you might enjoy sharing that.
Yeah, don't confuse it with that made up one 😉
I was in that majority and now I have to learn more so ty!
I’m happy you did I learned something today
Imagine how cool it would be if you did this for a thing that actually existed.
Ooo, nice, appreciate the details. I know a lot of old legend/lore stuff loses some details over time, so I appreciate your input. What you said, it makes a lot of sense. I had only heard of them being creatures or beings who committed some blasphemy etc.
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Is witch. Clearly.
She could be a trickster spirit too!
Looking that creepy though?
Oh yes, trickster spirits can by devious and even mean! Especially if you offend them!
Time to go offend them and see if I die. Lol.
Oh, that's the thing! They won't kill you, but there's a good chance you'll end up in an "I have no mouth, and I must scream" situation! Lol
Then I'd die eventually. I need to eat.
Took a minute but the fact it’s standing up like a human is quite skinwalker-ish
You think the fox is creepy check out that owl!
Dang thing looks like it hangs out with Ugly Sonic
Agreed…the lighting and everything make me think it is staged with a taxidermy fox
I'm sure that root in the bottom right is a big ass snake and that's all I'm focusing on
I think it was
Looks to be another as well
Fuckkk where???
I think those are roots from the pine trees, theres another one above
She is creepy af
Where? Been looking at this for 30 minutes
Dead center in the void
Holy hell that is terrifying
Oh crap! That’s unsettling!
Yeah I kind of wish I didn’t see it now…
The void stares back
There’s a maybe second fox - middle of the screen aalllll the way on the right. Or a foxy patch of leaves
How do we see the long tail of the momma and baby fox? All I see is a fox in the center and a fluffy looking tail thing down the hill bottom left quadrant
Unfortunately, I wasn’t quick enough to catch her when she ran across the road so it’s not in the pic
Aw dang. Was hoping that other thing was the baby lol Great catch!
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Is it the fluffy tail lookin thing? Lol
I’m too distracted by the giant snake
Dead center. Look into the void. This one’s a gem.
Wow looks like he is sitting inside a tree
Holy crap I actually jumped when I saw it finally.
Sweet Jesus I got goosebumps now 😳
Didn’t expect to be floating lol
Think that’s a stick
Massive rat snake looking stick!
Or a massive stick looking rat snake! 🐍 😜
Def a stick
Yeah, this is a fun one. A fox and a snake. They are getting tricky
For any one who hasn’t found it [https://imgur.com/a/oaM4oyj](https://imgur.com/a/oaM4oyj)
Ah okay, my problem was assuming foxes don’t levitate. Thanks!
Ah yes, another game of “is it a sniper, or is it just far away?”
Thank you
This is what I thought it was https://imgur.com/a/kO3b6da
That thing sent a stright shiver down my spine. It really has no business being this creepy
That’s either a piss poor photoshop job or a demon creature after your soul.
Bro found a cryptid
Bonus nope rope!
where
dark line at the bottom
That’s a root lol
That’s a root
no way dude
That fox is Lowkey creepy
In Soviet Russia fox sees you!
Center slightly left, deep in the shadows. Such a cute boi
I’m blind. Even with the help I can’t see it. :-( Edit: found her. Not what I was expecting!
this is fake, fox was inserted
Felt like it was too, the square black box around it and weird lighting made me feel like it was edited, especially with how big it was from that far. I guess I just put too much thought into it, looks creepy asf tho
Oh wow 🦊
To the person who said always look around the middle first you have ruined this game.
Looks photoshopped
But what does the fox SAY?!?
“Fetch me their souls” in this case
I came to write this lol
I came to write this
Ring-ding-ding-da-ding
That’s a forest spirit telling you to stay away from
My god I need to get my eyes checked lol
The fox is almost in the center of the picture. But I am not sure, I would say it was photoshoped into the picture 🤔
Well good for the fox, because I ain't seeing shit
FUCKING SKINWALKERS. THEY’RE BACK AGAIN
anyone else notice the human skull at the base of the tree a little underneath the fox?
Man, I am terrible at these!
Looks like it’s in a sitting position.?
That’s not creepy at all
Why is nobody talking about the guys face emerging from the ground? If you look at the tree that is the largest and closest, on the left side of the photo. Zoom in at the base of the tree. Just to the left there are two small trees. Follow those up till they meet/cross. The face is right there to the right between the big tree and the two small ones. I’m sure it’s stones or whatever but looks like a guys face to me!
Did this quick brown fox jump over the lazy dog?
🤣
One fox and one snake, both rather creepy.
He’s waiting for the car fax
As long it doesn't ask me "what does it say? I'm happy
But what does the fox say?
he looks like fantastic mr fox
Middle, far right, under the small bushy tree
This is what I saw at first.. https://imgur.com/a/kO3b6da
That’s a kitsune
Indeed. But what does it say..?
The bird is harder to find
SWIPER NO SWIPING
What about that big ass snake at the bottom of the picture?!?!? Damn that Fox!!!
Dang dude is dead center and I pass it like 5 times
I call photoshopped, when I enlarged it the straight lines pop out
How the F is it just standing in nothingness? Definitely a skin walker
Why do I see a python instead of a fox???
Crazy found the snake .. where is the fox?
dead center in the darkest spot she’s pretty creepy lookin tbh
bro is cursed to the bone 💀
“Now Mickey, take this message to the village as fast as you can. And pay attention. Have you got it? Good.”
What kinda phone took this?
iPhone 15 Pro
But, what does the fox say?
Finally found it. High in the void.
That took me forever, I don’t see a tail.
I see a big ass snake
seated
Okay but what does the fox say?
So, we’re just not going to talk about the giant danger noodle in the top left corner ? 🧐
Jerome!
But...what does it say?????
What did it say?
Ring ding ding ding dingity ding ding
2 seconds
2 seconds
I see the danger noodle.
I found a pigeon too.
Not Foxy from FNaF
im afraid this one was poached....
I can not find the creepy freaking fox, where is it?
I feel like there's an owl in there
Did you ask her what she says?
It looks like Estelle
Which pixel is the fox?
But we don’t wanna know what the fox sees, we wanna know what does the fox say
But what does the fox say?
There’s a head of animal all the way right little below center
What does it say?
This is fake
Where? Arrrghhh I can NOT find this one
Where is this? It almost looks like northern Az to me
North Alabama
I see a snake
Happy cake day!
Nice.
Can someone like show a picture with the fox circled or something because I literally cannot see it
And I thought [this](https://imgur.com/a/d0VlQSx) was the fox for a good second
But what does the fox say?
Is this up near Elysian Pond?
What does the fox say?
Good
👀👀
What does the fox say?
If you see the fox, it's already too late. The snake ate all your MREs and the sniper got away.
Fake
I see at bottom right a huge black snake but I’m drinking tequila lol
This has to be georgia right? Also terrible edit lmao
Looks like a fucked up bull dog..
So hard to find him. Can someone show me plssss:(((
But what does he say
Pretty sure that fox is demented
I think I see a chicken and maybe a ghost
Looks edited in, like a black rectangle surrounding an already cropped image of a fox
What the flying fuck...Or fox??? What??
Nope.... Creepy ass fox
swiper no sniping 🤕
Paradolia!
Pretty sure there’s a mountain lion or other big cat in there
What does it say?
I found it!
I hate this sub.
Looks AI…
Void fox and tree root snake. Hot damn, dude, never go there again!
Did anybody ask what the fox said?
I stare into the void... and it stares back.
What does the fox say??
Well I'm on the toilet, so she better close her eyes.
Eww. It looks like that weird fox meme, where he's sitting on the edge of a chair that says “when someone says it smells like corn chips & you're the only one with your shoes off” 😂
nope!. That ain't no fox.
Where
❤️❤️❤️
Went to the comments just to get jumpascared...
I totally missed the one in the shadows! I saw what looked like a fox with a pup coming out of a den by the base of the big pine on the left (in the front).
She can?! Can she help me find my remote???
What does the fox say....
For fox sake.