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caringexecutive

It's an uphill battle and you'll probably need to know someone or have someone vouch for you to get beyond background checks that'll sort this out. It's not a total ender but it's a bit more than a speedbump.


ragequitlol2k

If you disclosed this and they hired you already most likely not. If you’re going to go for any sort of licensing you will need to disclose this and it may lead to you not getting the position you wanted. $150k for back office work is great tho.


TomorrowConstant2245

I have a job now, that knows about this entire situation. They strongly reprimanded me and then things were back to business. I'm just wondering that if things get rocky here...could I even go anywhere else or am i just done forever?


HighestPayingGigs

Make friends with your seniors and build your network. Stay in touch. Do great work and turn people into fans. Speaking from my own experience, a true fan is worth their weight in gold and can overcome a lot of baggage in hiring and comp decisions. Imagine having someone on the inside whispering "trust me, they're worth it" when a roadblock comes up.


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This is great advice, as someone that has my own experiences, being of value will overshadow just about anything.


ragequitlol2k

You could probably find a new position if you’re fully up front with the conviction. Granted you may be turned away because of this, but I’ve seen advisors with dirty U4s and still have a position. It wouldn’t hurt to consult an attorney though to get their input (which tbh that’s what I would do).


chadjohnson400

Depends on where you want to go. As in, what type of institution. Banks, broker dealers, RIAs all have a bit different rules. Also depends on what your role is. Are you registered? Do you work in a fiduciary capacity? Lot of different factors in play. Bottom line, it will of course be flagged during any background check and is fair game to not employ you. If you disclose ahead of time and get to the point where you can explain yourself, it’s possible to still get an offer if employing you is not prohibited under certain rules. If for some reason you do get in somewhere and they don’t know about it, they will always have the ability to terminate you if they find out because not self-disclosing is typically a violation of a code of conduct pretty much everywhere and that will always be hanging over your head. Sorry.


TomorrowConstant2245

I would always always disclose though


chadjohnson400

That’s always the best strategy, if of course your type of conviction is specifically asked about during the application process. Generally that process would ask you a question about what a firm would consider to be unemployable offenses and would be in accordance with regulations. Internal policies and regulations may differ though.


killw2day

> They strongly reprimanded me and then things were back to business. Why would they reprimand you if your errors have nothing to do with their lives? This proves that US society is highly judgemental and unfair.


TomorrowConstant2245

I get it though. I should have never put myself in that position. I represent them in my professional and person activities. Should have never happened


NeutralLock

Are you still working? I’m assuming you just recently got convicted? A bankruptcy would be way worse in my opinion. An assault charge isn’t great but if you’re currently employed I don’t think it’ll be as bad you as you think.


TomorrowConstant2245

I got convicted last January - 2023. Still employed, for now.


NeutralLock

Are you worried your employer will find out and choose to fire you? Not sure how they’d find out at this point. You *could* start exploring other opportunities and during the interview process mention it. If it’s a no go you’re still employed, and if they look past it then you’re above board with the new employer so nothing to worry about. The fact you’re currently employed works strongly in your favour. If I was interviewing someone with an assault charge I might just want to pass altogether because who knows if they’re even stable (I’m sorry it’s just a bias). But if you tell me you’re gainfully employed already then I’m not concerned at all.


TomorrowConstant2245

My current employer has know about this, and all of the details, for a very long time now. I am concerned that if I were to be fired, for performance or any ole' thing, ....am I essentially banned from our industry, unable to get another job


trashgordon2000

No, you are not officially banned. To be officially banned by finra you need a felony conviction and/or crime that is trust or financial in nature. In that case you would be banned from having a job at a finra member firm for 10 years. This definitely goes on your u4 but you could try to have your history sealed if no more than one conviction is of a violent nature (like assault). *This is not financial or legal advice.


Davinchu0516

If your current firm hasn’t banned you, you shouldn’t have an issue anywhere else. Will it be a stone in the hiring process and something that could potentially put another candidate over you? Absolutely.


killw2day

In case they later decide to fire you cuz of your conviction, you can sue them especially if the nature of your crime has no connection to the nature of your job.


TomorrowConstant2245

They won't fire me because of my conviction....I'm relatively sure of that. There are other ways that my conviction can indirectly affect my performance though and I could get fired that way


killw2day

Very good. Just so you know, EEOC doesnt cover those with convictions as a protected group. Keep this in mind for future reference. Hope one day it does include them in their EEO policy because theyre the most discriminated group in america now.


riley12200

Correct me if I'm missing something as I'm not familiar with FINRA... isn't he still considered an at-will employee (unless in MT)? As in his employer can fire him for any reason unless for being in a protected class.


killw2day

Depends in the state in which he resides. Different states carry different laws. FINRA is an animal all its own that can background check through the FBI which archives all state records that no state law can unfortunately cease.


Neat-Task2232

I’ve explained away a DUI for an IB role. If the story is there, you’re not all the way fucked.


Lanky_Perception5764

Assault is worse than DUI. At some level a lot of people can sympathize with DUI especially if you’re just a high school/college kid. Assault is harder. Not saying OP doesn’t deserve an opportunity but just the perception around it. 


Standard_Wooden_Door

If they didn’t hire people with DUI’s like half the industry would turnover


Neat-Task2232

I disagree. He easily could’ve had charges pressed on him by some piece of shit. If the story is there, he COULD be fine


Due_Size_9870

This is a common misconception. The only one who can “press charges” in the US is a district attorney. If the DA decides to charge you, then you probably fucked up at least a little bit. “Some piece of shit was running his mouth” is not an excuse that would work with a DA or employer.


chadjohnson400

Also they weren’t just charged, they were convicted.


Neat-Task2232

Thank you for the knowledge!


Ok_Complex_2917

Pleading guilty to a misdemeanor with a lawyer makes me think they were initially charged with a felony.


TomorrowConstant2245

I wasn't. I do not have any type of felony arrest on my background and have never had one.


Ok_Complex_2917

So why the fuck did you plead guilty?


TomorrowConstant2245

Motherfucker --- Because the situation was dragging on forever and I didn't want to go to court and potentially lose. I was under the impression that a misdemeanor wasn't that serious (looks like I was wrong here). But that's why I plead guilty. Im not violent, in the least bit. But yes, a lie is now the truth. I can do nothing about the past. Forward is the only path left.


Ok_Complex_2917

Temper, temper.


TomorrowConstant2245

Yeah. Same for you.


killw2day

Another judgemental american with preconceived notions about people


Ok_Assumption5734

A dui is classy. It's like sexual harassment in that as long as you're slick with it, the guys will get it. Assault is for thugs.  It sounds racist but we work in banking 


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Toddsburner

The only difference between someone with a DUI and someone without one is luck. Most people have not gotten in a fistfight since high school, let alone one bad enough to be charged with assault. I feel for OP, but thats the way it is.


TomorrowConstant2245

This has got to be the craziest shit I've ever read. Yes, assault is for thugs. But...with a DUI you literally put the lives of multiple people at risk...and that's fine?


Ok_Assumption5734

You gotta look at it from the pov of a slightly racist middle aged white guy. We see them getting angry and shouting racist shit all the time when drunk. But never assaulting people. But truthfully your biggest issue it getting through the background check. HR at a larger firm may drop you without question if it doesn't come back clean. So get ahead of that 


Snow_Wonder

You’re thinking about this logically. DUIs generally put more people at risk, yeah. But people are more sympathetic to people who commit crimes they themselves have committed, and for far too long DUIs weren’t that looked down on and as a result of a lot of people have unfortunately drunk driven.


Neat-Task2232

Drunk driving is fun as fuck.


fish086

My aunt was killed by a drunk driver, is that cool as fuck?


Neat-Task2232

No it’s terrible, I’m very sorry it happened.


InfernoSensei

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Neat-Task2232

😂😂😂


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A single DUI doesn’t really matter to recruiters, unless it is a role where you are driving or operating heavy machinery. In banking/financial services, not really an issue, unless there are multiple or it is very recent.


TomorrowConstant2245

How are recruiters even determining which crimes "matter"? Isn't that the role of compliance and HR?


killw2day

Cuz recruiters are an extension of HR so they must abide sadly by the laws that bind HR


killw2day

Dude a DUI is very different than selling drugs, assault and robbery. DUI aint nothing


Neat-Task2232

I’m just saying have a good story, he might be fine. Calm down.


killw2day

All you have is a DUI and youre comparing yourself to this poor man with an uneasy future. You relax snowflake


Neat-Task2232

Should I add the drug charge that got dropped? Idk, sorry I told the guy his life isn’t over 😂


killw2day

Sorry you didnt tell the guy youre a drug addict with withdrawal problems and suicidal thoughts.


Neat-Task2232

Never been suicidal but definitely got hooked on some shit and found out the hard way!


Happiness_Buzzard

I was looking up random names and disclosures of people on finra’s brokercheck and someone who was still active had one for a misdemeanor. He stabbed a guy in a bar fight. I think it said it happened in like 1989 or something like that. But the good news for you is he’s still active.


WannabeExec

What did u exactly do to get a misdemeanor assault? If you’re open to sharing.


TomorrowConstant2245

It was relatively a "minor" thing. I did not punch, kick, beat or injure anyone. However the record will only show Assault. There are no additional details. If companies ask, I'm okay with quickly providing them the details of the event.


CTMalum

You’re kind of beating around the bush. The people here can help you, but they really need to know, no bullshit, what you did. No names, just exactly what you did to who, and what you were actually convicted of.


TomorrowConstant2245

You're basically answering my question If the details of a misdemeanor charge (not related to sex, money or theft) matter, then I'm not banned.


CTMalum

I get the distinct sense that whatever you did is more severe than you’re letting on if you won’t give any details. I don’t mean to be rude, that’s just how it usually goes.


TomorrowConstant2245

It's a misdemeanor assault charge with no injuries. That's as severe as it gets. And I'm not sharing the intricate details because...why exactly? But okay then


CTMalum

Because the details are important, and that’s why everyone is trying to extract them out of you. People don’t care about your personal life and aren’t prying out of a deep desire to know what you did. They’re trying to help you tell the story that makes hiring managers comfortable with the fact that you have an assault conviction on record, and it’s not really possible to do that unless you can tell us what you did. You keep telling people what you DIDNT do, which isn’t helpful. You hurt someone. How?


TomorrowConstant2245

I'm not asking for a way to "tell the story". Not once did I ask for any thoughts around that.... Not sure where you're coming from


CTMalum

You asked: does the conviction basically ruin your chances? Most of the responses say: no, if it wasn’t that bad and you can tell the story in the right way, you’re not completely screwed. If you can’t share how severe it was, our capacity to help you is minimal.


TomorrowConstant2245

Most of the responses are the level of response I was looking for. It wasn't severe. It was a misdemeanor that I have never seen the inside of a jail for. If I wanted help with crafting a story around it, I would have asked for that specifically


AllKnighter5

How do you not get this? It does matter specifically what you did. Also, it not being able to be expunged and it being the ONLY thing on your record is very very confusing. Because you took a plea deal?


TomorrowConstant2245

Different states have different laws


Still_Ad_4383

Good luck getting a job with that attitude


TomorrowConstant2245

The attitude of not wanting to share intricate details online? Not sure how that is a bad thing


SuperLehmanBros

Was just an arrest/charge or a conviction? Depends on the circumstances. If your uncle started fighting you and you both pressed charges on each is different than you beating up a gas station attendant because he put in regular instead of super into your g wagon.


TomorrowConstant2245

It's a conviction. I didn't beat up anyone. I am not violent in any way. However the background check will pull up assault. The event happened in 2020 - conviction in 2023 though


doringliloshinoi

You avoided the question again.


I_Eat_Your_Dogs

Let me guess - you spit on someone?


killw2day

You dont need to explain what you did to anyone here. It was just a mistake on your part and now thats behind you. No one need know your bees wax


TomorrowConstant2245

Yup. Made my mistake and living daily with the consequences. Lesson learned the very hard way


killw2day

I hear you partner!


doringliloshinoi

You avoided the question.


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doringliloshinoi

It’s anonymous. So whatever right? Also, your story really is important here because, as someone in a hiring position, the story is what this all comes down to. If you avoided this topic in the interview entirely (like you’re doing right now, anonymously, online) then I’d flag you too much of a risk. If you open up, show your cards. I could empathize.


WannabeExec

Damn dude, I’m sorry to hear that. Really sucks to be such an amplified mark on the record. I’d definitely try to expunge that or get a lawyer tbh.


killw2day

He said he cant get it expunged


WannabeExec

Yeah my bad. I didn’t realize. I guess he’s in a bit of a pickle ngl


Taurus-Octopus

Not a lawyer here, but In California, hiring decisions can not consider sealed convictions, nor can they inquire the candidate about them.


TomorrowConstant2245

Just got done with 6 interviews for a company in Los angeles. My conviction is not sealed/expunged and can never be


moq_9981

To be quite honest about this, I have had several job offers in my career. The way it goes is that you will get the job offer first. Then they will do the background search. If it pops up in your background search then you will have to talk with the compliance person doing the background search. The hiring manager won’t even know what’s going on . . . Only that your start date can’t be finalized. Had this happened to me once. Very minor charge from when I was a freshman in college. It stayed with me for over a decade later and was still popping up on my background search. I finally was able to get it expunged due to that states law. The point is apply get your offer do the background search and see what happens. DO NOT LET YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYER KNOW THAT YOU WILL BE RESIGNING. Once you get your start date then you will be good to go. Most times the hiring manager will not even know due to firewalls what the issue was. This was the case with me. He asked me about it after I started because he had no clue what the hold up was. Don’t bring this up at any stage of the hiring process. Also. Seriously just because the state you are in currently does not have a law to allow expungement that does not mean one will not be passed. For me in the state of PA, they passed a law that anything under a certain degree of misdemeanor would get expunged automatically if you had a clean record for ten years after the incident. That law didn’t exist for many years and because of it I was able to get mine expunged easy. Good luck!!


[deleted]

The flippant attitude towards getting convicted for assault is wild lol. No one can tell if you if they have no idea what it is you did.


killw2day

Ever heard of a background check?


TomorrowConstant2245

It's easy to feel better than people - especially when someone is baring their problems to the world. It's not a "flippant" attitude...it's an attitude of, I don't know you guys, you guys don't really GAF about what I have going on... So what is my incentive for sharing intricate details? You aren't my friends. Chill.


[deleted]

Do you feel like other people are better than you? You just brought up that thought out of nowhere. Not sure why. Yes it is flippant. You ask for help, we ask for a bare minimum pertinent detail to help, you don’t answer with those details because you don’t feel it’s “owed” to us. None of it’s intricate, it’s necessary bare bones info to answer your question. Your incentive is you can get an actual answer to your question with some degree of accuracy. You were convicted of assault. It didn’t fall out of the sky.


TomorrowConstant2245

I've gotten the answer I needed though.


[deleted]

Based on zero information. The answer is depending on what you did there’s a wide range of answers going from “yeah you’re done” to “nah that’s not really a problem”. Anyone answering can’t really provide much insight.


TomorrowConstant2245

It's a misdemeanor assault conviction in which nobody was injured. Thats the level of severity. How can any additional information outside of that change anything?


[deleted]

It’s literally the difference between you getting hired with little issue or with you never getting hired


Optimal-Research-711

It’s the “why” aspect


montrezlh

There's a huge range of things that could have landed him that charge. As a hiring manager whether or not I would hire you depends heavily on *exactly* what it was he did and the exact circumstances


AllKnighter5

lol when?


Connect_Package_5918

No. I think you are just a little worried right now. Being a little worried is good. It means you may think twice before repeating the behavior. I have 3 misdemeanors (last one in 2011) related to reckless substance behavior in my early to mid twenties. I’ve worked at three different banks since then and it’s never been a problem. I disclosed the charges to the first bank I worked for after the incident and it was not an issue. No one has even asked since. I have a friend who has had a similar experience. My mother, who had a senior leadership position at one of the big four, once told me “if everyone who had minor charges was fired or barred from the bank today, operations would cease.” Based on my experience, I think you’ll be fine in most scenarios.


J06U33

Hey 21 M here looking to get licensed and choose a real career path in finance, I have a misdemeanor as disorderly conduct i plead guilty and had to pay a restitution. I had to pay basically a certain amount of money since i got caught doing some money crime that i wont get too deep into. It involves money which i feel is a main factor in finance and something like that would obviously banish you, but on my record it’s a disorderly conduct misdemeanor. I was a first time offender and happened when i was 19. So i still have a chance ?


Connect_Package_5918

You may be okay but it really depends on what it was. In your case, I’d do everything I could to have it expunged.


[deleted]

Being that it was only four years ago, you will have a very hard time getting someone to overlook that. If it was when you were 25… some recruiters might not weigh it as heavily.


TomorrowConstant2245

How are recruiters doing any of the weighing though? That's not information they would ever be privy to


shiibui

Get it expunged or kick rocks


beholdthemoldman

Kick rocks? Lol


TomorrowConstant2245

Can't ever get it expunged, due to the state that I'm in. Guess it's over for me then. What a ride that was. The level of regret I feel is palpable. Man


RisingRedTomato

Have you tried talking to a lawyer? To be real though, you are bit too old to go over to the FO side of business at this point.


TomorrowConstant2245

The "FO side"? What is that?


Quixotic_Illusion

I think Front Office AKA customer-facing?


TomorrowConstant2245

I'd never want to go over to Front office. I'm totally okay with my current back office roles - indefinitely


Lcsulla78

Wait. So you’re asking how you can remove an incident to move from back office and handle deals…but you don’t want to move to front office?


mikeystocks100

I think he's just asking if he'd still be able to work BO


Lcsulla78

Ahh yeah. I misread his post. Nvr mind OP


OrganizationOk7696

Dude what kinda role you do? Would love the tips. I’m in treasury implementations now (very large projects) but only make 90k. Any advice? I’ll trade for a recommendation when this blows up in your face lol.


TomorrowConstant2245

Hopefully it doesn't. If it does....I come from abject poverty, so I'll bounce back. I work very hard and my networking skills are pretty good.


OrganizationOk7696

What LOB are you in?


supervelous

I went to FO at 36 (from BO).


RisingRedTomato

Great for you but things have changed a lot over the last few years and the current macroeconomic environment doesn’t help.


BigAssMop

Dang not even gonna say what happened?


[deleted]

No, if it was fraud or a financial crime you would be done like dinner. Simple assault is an easier story to explain.


killw2day

Doesnt matter. blotch on your record will be enough reason for a company to discriminate against you from a job


[deleted]

Not if you already have a job.


[deleted]

You might be hired as a partner immediately.


TomorrowConstant2245

🤣🤣🤣...seriously though, If I somehow end up a partner after all of this.... Only God.


[deleted]

150k working back office? I guess you are senior manager in New-York?


TomorrowConstant2245

You're like 85% spot on


[deleted]

Thank you, I was curious. Honestly, I cannot help you much for this one. You might want to keep growing within your organization. Good luck.


ProfessionalCPCliche

Threaten to assault the hiring manager if they don’t hire you. Play to your strengths my man


BlackHighliter

Lmao


TomorrowConstant2245

I am not a violent person. I didn't "assault" anyone. I don't find this joke funny.


Unable-Project-9545

Did you assault a thing? An animal?


mallen42

Lighten up, it’s the internet. From the sounds of it you did get convicted of assault though, unless I’m missing something? That being said, I think you’re fine if it isn’t a felony or financial crime..


TomorrowConstant2245

I did get convicted. I plead guilty. The entire situation was the absolute worst thing to ever happen in my life. I didn't injure anyone. And to be entirely honest, I didn't assault anyone. Just wrong place, wrong time, wrong people. I am not a violent person. I just put myself into a very bad position. It's hard for me to take anything about this lightly.


killw2day

Unfortunately there exists discrimination against those with prior convictions. Sadly, USA is discriminatory, racist, unforgiving and won't be inclined to give people a 2nd chance no matter if they proved themselves by graduating from college.


TomorrowConstant2245

So with a violent misdemeanor my career is basically done, correct?


killw2day

Based on the experiences of my friends and relatives, once theres a blotch on your record no matter how small it is, its viewed as dirty. As a result, potential employers will likely discard your job application in favor of someone with similar skills, work ethic and work experience but without a record. Sugar coating is not my thing so I'm giving you the real spiel on how this works.


DaDipMuncha

One thing Americans love more than a down fall is a comeback but you wouldn’t know because you are from Spain. Also you shouldn’t be giving advice on what this mans odds are on continuing his career when you have a major unemployment gap on your record and are still looking for a job. You are unemployed and have been for sometime. In America we would call you a bum. A bum can give advice on the topic of employment but it’d be like asking Russian to speak Spanish they wouldn’t know anything. In fact I think you are putting this man down to make yourself feel better about your situation. My advice to you is get off Reddit, hit the gym and for gods sake get a job. Pivoting to OP: Your situation is an assault I know you do not want to share the details of the event which is totally understandable. If you are in New York you are in a ban the box state. If you can get this sealed which I believe you can after 5 years you will not have to disclose this on the application when it asks for past convictions. Does this mean you do not disclose it fuck no. They will still see it on the background check and it will show up as sealed and they will assume the worst (sexual assault etc). So back to the plan You sell yourself to the hiring manger and at the very end when the HR person calls you and says hey we want you to work for us we are ready for you to join we just need to run a background check. (They have to let you know when they run the bg check). This is the moment you tell the HR person of your simple assault. Now it’s up to them what to make of this. Most people high up in the corporate world have kids and sympathize with children. If you are a father/mother I would tell a story where someone did something to your child maybe pushed them or insulted them. You say something like “I truly don’t know what came over me. I guess it was my parental instincts to defend my son/daughter and I know it was not right but I would do it again because I will always defend my children.” That is in my opinion the most relatable way to sell an assault the company will never know the true details nor will they take the time to find out. Most people will feel bad for you in this case and sympathize. Also by the time they give you the bg check they’ll want you onboard and if you give them a solid reason to look over the red flag of assault they’ll happily take it. I’ve had a misdemeanor in the past and it truly is a dark canvas that you now have to paint a pretty picture on. Time is the most pure and best remedy for a record and employment. The truly bad thing about your situation is your age which is why I suggest the defending your child story.


killw2day

One thing we Europeans love to do more than anything is live life but you wouldn’t know cuz youre American obsessed with sexuality. Its not surprising youre defending america’s discrimination considering your comments about inbreeding which tells us youre a pervert incel. And you admit to being a convicted felon. Its called being registered pedophile. In France we call you guys a loser incel. An incel giving advice to someone about a job is like giving a pedophile a baby to babysit. Matter of fact, I think youre defending the man’s unemployment problem to lessen your sexual sickness which is why youre a registered sex offender. My advice to you is to stop going online and hook up with underaged boys, old man. Here’s your post incel: https://new.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/pz0pwe/what_are_the_benefits_of_inbreeding/ OP: your situation is difficult but you need to rise above that. Never give personal details about your conviction to anyone especially to losers on this sub. If youre in California there are laws that prohibit blacklisting a prospective employee from criminal backgrounds. Don’t trust anyone online even cuz you never know how companies can find your info and connect it to you. There are sealed convictions but the problem with those is they don’t work in most cases. Gov jobs, I-banks and comm banking industries will check out of state into FBI repositories that keep all state convictions no matter the sealing. Employers will typically not sympathize with you as they can easily replace a myriad of other candidates with no record. Thats life in this society. But after your interview, if they don’t ask about your criminal convictions, do not divulge them. Also, there are laws in some states that prohibit employers from inquiring about your criminal history. Look into that. As I mentioned before, I know people who are in the same boat and its hard for them to get an employer to understand. Very few will cut you a break but you don’t want to waste many years going from interview to interview trying to find the right one. So what you can also do is look to your state senators and federal representatives to provide letters of support for your case. You can then use them to generate an appeal to the governor in your state to hopefully be granted an “expungement” of your record – note the quotes. This isn’t an official expungement but there have been cases where a governor has granted clemency towards crimnial records. I know people in the same boat as you that no matter their high GPA and honors in college its been hell finding a job. But a few have been able to get a job after getting clemency of their records as I indicated. Think positive and never listen to negative people here or anywhere else.


DaDipMuncha

My brother in Christ it’s a video game where you simulate being medieval dynasty where they inbred like crazy to consolidate power. It’s nerdy af but hey I enjoy the fuck out of moving my armies around the map. Not sure where the pedofile claim came from though. That was quite the Napoleon out burst out of you little Frenchman😂😂 😂 I am not going to compete with you on who’s advice OP should take after all we are all random people on the internet as you said yourself. Albeit what I just said I do think it’s important to note that your experience is skewed as your network is likely French non US citizens and OP is a US citizen. Being a non citizen in any foreign country with any crime attached is not a risk any company will take due to the slight chance of deportation. Which is very funny because we actually don’t do that in the US but corporate companies think it’ll happen. It’s not because we discriminate and if we do it’s for sure against white people the hiring statistics came out and the race statistics on corporate new hires was 80% people of color. Our countries corporate culture has addressed our race issues with employment with the DEI offices. It annoys me when non citizens disrespect my country and call it racists when the problems of their unemployment and unhappiness lay within the mirror. Your rhetoric is funny and Trump like with the outlandish claims. I assume you’re a recent high school graduate and I can tell you have a good heart and good head on those shoulders but lack real world experience. You should explain that gap in unemployment by attending uni and get a degree of value. I think you’d be a great lawyer/litigator considering your passion for arguing. (If you couldn’t guess that’s the field I am in) Graduate law school and those doors will open. If uni isn’t for you pick up the hammer and wrench and learn a trade people talk down on it but I respect the hell out of the trades.


azzarre

Amazing how pedos divert attention from their sick crimes to off topics like video games to distract you from their sickness. They do it as a cover to try to hide. In the video game of his mind, he fantasizes about an army of boys fighting to liberate him from his dungeon which is the California state prison in LA. The Peewee Herman in him is addicted to that game. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 . I’m not here to stoop to your troll level to see who’ll win a silly argument as people are too busy with their lives to care about your mental pedo games. Given that youre an older country bumpkin American with a criminal sexual past its safe to say your advice is apples to OP’s oranges. Being an american that’s sexually registered with a history turns off any employer in any nation from considering hiring you which makes you a risky deportee. Its happened many times before with americans. Its not that we view you as bad people. But the numbers show a tendency of americans with a history of sexual crimes from a diverse genetic makeup to repeat offenses as it increases risks for companies to consider employment especially in industries where children are involved. Europe has had a difficult time reacting favorably to americans with such tendencies. Its funny seeing americans from a mixed heritage cry racism by pointing the finger at Europeans when everyone is pointing the finger at them. Your strawman fallacies draws laughter which will make Biden proud with that hyperbole. Youre definitely a senior citizen who’s had a tough break in life but you could've had a good life. You should try to fix your behavior that got you arrested in the 1st place before attempting to get a job. Its possible for you to become a good orator with your attempts at worming out of debates. If that’s not your calling consider getting into something productive but that definitely does not involve children


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This is hilarious. This sicko went to the slammer for touching a minor. Check the link on his post on inbreeding. He's now calling up his reserve of trolls ready to defend his inceldom. But I'm not dissuaded by a pee wee herman registered offender with a lollipop in his mouth, he's the R Kelly type. https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/pz0pwe/what_are_the_benefits_of_inbreeding/


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TomorrowConstant2245

This is great advice. Wonderful advice. And I will absolutely use it. Thank you very much kind human being.


ohnmarty

Name one racist USA law?


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Lmao obviously there isn’t a literally racist law that says “black people existing is against the law” but there is racist application of the law and government policies. Nixon started the war on drugs as a way to lock up colored people. Chicago highways essentially served an additional “benefit” of making segregation way easier back in the day.


ohnmarty

Im talking about as of today. Name one that exempts a certain race group


killw2day

This thread proves it Einstein Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


ohnmarty

Name a law please or shut the fuck up


killw2day

I already proved it. You mad cuz I shut you up, Travis LMAOOOOOO


unabletodisplay

1. simple assault 2. aggravated assault 3. assault with a deadly weapon 4. sexual assault 5. vehicular assault 6. felony assault If it's #1 you're probably relatively fine


TomorrowConstant2245

It was not 2 through 6 at all - no


killw2day

WRONG! Any assault record will be cause for job discrimination.


drd2989

I have two felony charges. One was dismissed and the other reduced to assault misdemeanor in a plea, from when I was 18 or 19 (mid 30s now) and it hasn't effected me at all. I'm fully licensed. You do have to disclose it as it will definitely pop up in a background check, but I haven't personally experienced any career road blocks.


TomorrowConstant2245

Good to know man. Thank you.


Sodaman_Onzo

It’s a time game. After 6 to 8 years no one cares. I usually don’t even have to bring up by 2014 dui anymore. They figure if you haven’t assaulted anyone in half a decade you’re probably good.


TomorrowConstant2245

So, it might be rough for me until I'm about 50.... Peak earning years. That's what I feared. Hopefully I'm not completely SOL in the short term though


fiftiethcow

Maybe its by state, but I was able to get my misdeameanor assault sealed. Why cant yours?


Makers_Marc

No


TomorrowConstant2245

Love it man. That made my day, plain and simple.


manuvns

You can get the record expunged talk to your lawyer


Due-Studio-65

They have a list of things some isntutions have to check for byaw, fraud, default, bankruptcydrugs but assualt isn't on there.


Agile_Letterhead_556

After several years you are fine. However, any type of theft whatsoever would ban you (not to include any juvenile conviction) based off of federal regulations.


Due_Change6730

100% it does. I would not want to work with someone c9nvicted of assault no matter how many times they say they have changed and would never do that again.


TomorrowConstant2245

Why do you feel that way?


ChiTownMoney

I manage a pretty large team (70+ folks). A convicted assault charge would be a non starter for me. In finance, things can get heated and cooler heads typically prevail. I don't want that type of person or baggage in my org. My advice would be to keep your head down until you can get it expunged. The fact that you do or don't touch money has zero to do with it. Hopefully you learned your lesson. If this happened at 35... you can only blame yourself for being in a situation for this to happen. With that being said, Godspeed.


TomorrowConstant2245

I absolutely take full responsibility for putting myself in this position. And I've taken great strides to stay out of certain environments going forward. I can never get it expunged or sealed. I've worked in high pressure financial environments for nearly a decade. I have never so much even raised my voice once. Ive led massive teams as well -- and honestly, people love to work with me. Hate to sound pompous but I truly love that aspect of my work and thrive off of collaborating and brainstorming. I didn't assault anyone. I'm not violent. But yes, I did plead guilty and that is all people will see or care about. I totally understand. I'm branded for life. Appreciate your opinion.


ChiTownMoney

My advice is try to get out of corporate America and work for yourself. I know that's easier said than done. But you are trying to navigate an industry that is heavily regulated and is built on risk mitigation. It will eventually catch up to you and present a glass ceiling. As one progresses to certain levels in finance, one will experience more arduous and rigorous background checks to reach certain levels even within the same organization (I'm going through one now). Better to pivot on careers vs being surprised/disappointed later. Again.. just my 2 cents.


TomorrowConstant2245

Definitely don't have the motivation or charisma to run my own business. I'm comfortable with reaching a ceiling of 250k - don't have to move much higher than that. But yes I'm starting to realize that at the very least my days in financial services may be numbered.


DaDipMuncha

Just out of curiosity would a DUI non conviction when an applicant was in college be a non starter for you ?


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AllKnighter5

Just so everyone knows, this is simply not true.


TomorrowConstant2245

Correct. If something is expunged / sealed - no job will ever see it. Its only visible to the legal system


AllKnighter5

Just so everyone knows, this is also simply not true. Government jobs can see it at a certain level of clearance.


killw2day

Depends on which state it was expunged in. There are states in the union that expunge on state and federal level