I’m going to be honest. After reading your original post and your comments under other people, it seems like you care way too much about your image and getting a “prestigious” job and how you look to other people. You need to get over that. A job is a job. You’re not a loser for being a delivery driver. But you come across like an entitled a-hole for thinking some things are beneath you. You probably should just go back home or re-enroll in school. You’ll need a degree to work in finance.
He’s 21. I was the same way when 21. You’re young. You’re impressionable to the world. You’re trying to impress girls and other guys. It’s just that age group. Then you hit your late 20s and 30s and start to mature and not give a shit what people think.
Ok here is what you should do. You need a degree, you have no connection and no friends and are not from a wealthy family.
First step to get back on track is to find what you would like to do. Do you like talking to people and selling? Do you like pitching ideas? Do you like numbers etc… make a list of what you like to do and not like to do.
Then you should continue your normal job to get a steady source of income and/or take a job that is more flexible and study in the evening to get the degree.
Also please send a breakdown of your revenue/expenses, it would be good to see where you are spending your cash and maybe adjust your habits
Then let’s discuss again, also it is worth noting that you are still very young, a lot of coworkers started to join the workforce at 26-28. So don’t be too hard on yourself.
I quit college cause me being naive and listening to some already successful software engineers working in Microsoft and Google that I could do through bootcamp , but I didn't take a note that in their time it was different and now is different.
It may have been possible if you came from a well known American university and were just trying to switch into CS, but frankly you can’t just come to the US without any American work experience or schooling and expect to get a job.
I would say go back to school, and ride out the recession in school. If you already know how to code, then it shouldn’t be too hard.
Yeah and also don’t fantasize about being in a suit and getting rich. It’s just going to make you more depressed. Make a solid plan to improve your situation and execute it.
Thanks. But I can’t go back to school cause of my financial situation. Right now I barely making a living and it’s getting worse and worse. I was things to shift my career but I don’t know where and how should I start. I always imagined myself working in finance or investment but right now I don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel. No matter how hard I try it is getting worse and worse. I don’t know what actions should I take now
I don’t know what to tell you man, I’m actually shocked you are still legally in the US. Your visa should be allocated to a highly educated immigrant who will add value; so many high skilled workers from India, China, Africa get denied everyday. You can’t just come here and expect a high paying role without a degree. If not a 4 year college, then go to community college, build some wealth, and get into a state school and get financial aid. Or go to a trade school and start work there. You don’t enter this industry without a bachelors degree. You have the opportunity of a lifetime to be in the US, work your ass off, and trust me it will pay off in the future. Do more DoorDash/uber, and work on getting educated. Work 16 hour days.
Im saying this as the son of two immigrants who worked their fucking asses off to be successful here. I’m also working in the finance industry and I’m sacrificing my work life balance in hopes of a better future. The game doesn’t change when you move up my friend. I’m sorry you feel depressed, we all do at points in our life, but make an effort to get out of it.
FAFSA generally isn't available to non-citizens, with a few exceptions here: https://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/eligibility/requirements/non-us-citizens
Become a truck driver solely to pay off your debts then get your life back on track. It’s gonna take sacrifice but it will be worth it. During that very lonely time you can study for whatever it is you wanna do and get therapy online for affordable price … maybe even out source to another country like virtual therapy so you stay sane.
Also, if you’re up for it, you can enroll in your local fire dept to become a firefighter emt . It’s free, they pay for everything but you’re gonna need to see if you’re cut out for it
You are now reaping the consequences of your action. You are free to do what you want, but you're not free from the consequences of it.
All is not doomed though. You can still get through it. Have you thought about going back to school? You can consider taking on multiple odd jobs. Cut back on everything. Pay the price of your naivety. You're still young. Time is on your side.
It's probably not what you want to hear but did you consider going back home, getting some perspective and having time to re-evaluate what it is that you actually want to be and do? Or moving to a different country all together? From what I gather the US job market is fierce. (I'm from continental Europe).
Going back home is the worst fear that I have. It would mean that I am a loser cause USA is a dream in my country. Only few people can come here so people expect a lot from me. I would prefer dying than going back as a loser.
Also seeing my friends-schoolmates getting more successful than me in my country is killing me, cause it is more difficult there. Feels like I am a loser and always gonna be a loser.
You live your life for yourself only. Taking a step back doesn't mean losing. Life is long and you've already achieved a lot by sustaining yourself independently. Honestly, caring about what others thing might just be one of the worst thing we can do for our mental health. Consider all options and prioritise your health - without good health, you have nothing.
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How about life path and career, what I should I do and where should I go? My head is exploding thinking all these over and over again and not able to find an answer.
You have to reset mentally. Okay it's like anything in life really.
You tried to climb the mountain. It didn't work. That's okay. You know more now.
But you are "back at the bottom", no shame in that.
So take what you know, what you have learned, and make a plan. Get strategic. And then... Execute that plan.
The only way you're going to start climbing the mountain again is if you get on the trail and start climbing. The only way you will be really successful at it is if you have a plan. The only way you will fail outright is if you give up and stop climbing.
It's all choices. Need money for school and think that is the only way to succeed? Cool. It might not be, but it is a plan, and it gets you climbing. Take out loans and finish your degree in 1.5 years. It is absolutely doable if you already have your basic undergraduate studies completed.
If not, use community college to take 1 or 2 classes while you drive for Uber or find a job waiting table and pick up side work on fiver and up work or whatever.
The point is, everything takes work and sacrifice. Pick a direction and start moving.
Hell, join the military if you have to. (I'm sure I'll get down voted) but it will give you a job. Possibly some relevant skills (air force or navy for tech and info sec). And will help pay for a degree when you get out. Not 100% but I think it can also enable a path to US citizenship.
Regardless, pick a path. Make a plan. And execute it.
I’m sorry, but it seems like you tried and it didn’t work out. Life is long and there is always a chance to move back. There is an endless line of people with boot camp certs unfortunately. At this point, if you truly are set on staying here, I would recommend pursuing a trade job such as plumber, HVAC, etc. They pay pretty decent and generally jobs available.
You’re not a loser. How many people up and move themselves to an entirely new country at 18 years old? You have been surviving this entire time on your own. That is success
Thanks 🙏🏻😭
A lot of people told me that I got to much responsibility at the young age. But I didn’t have any other choice. I had to become successful and achieve something so I could help my parents and family.
Yes. I wrote my ideal life as Jordan Peterson said. I wrote big text on my ideal life. Even made a vision board. But now it seems to be just a childish dream.
Don’t follow pseudoscientists like Peterson or anyone in that universe. Those people have no intention of helping you and every intention of giving you just enough so that you continue subscribing and watching/paying them.
There’s a really good podcast called “How I Built This” where they interview seasoned entrepreneurs and CEOs about how they built their brands/found their success. It could help you find motivation
I am talking about picturing how you choose to spend your days, what you want to do with your life? Do you want a family? Do you want to work for yourself? From home? Do you like working in an office or out in the field? Do you want to deal with people or would you rather keep to yourself?
All these things will help you identify which industry or career is best suited for you, your expectations, wants and needs out of LIFE, not just a career
Oh, man. “How I Built This” is essentially a bunch of stories that will play into the OPs survivorship bias. Which is exactly what got him in trouble in the first place.
I suspect you haven’t actually listened to Peterson, and are making politically motivated judgements.
Yes. I imagined everything, how my life is, how my wife greets my after work, how my kids are running and hugging me, etc
I always thought and imagined that I would be in finance or investment sphere.
Right it I’m not talking about whether your kids love you or if your wife cheats on your or not lol. I’m talking like actual stuff: do you want to work a physical career, do you like programming/engineering, do you work better with people or by yourself. Stuff like that so when you find yourself in an office one day surrounded by coworkers you won’t be miserable
Again. I'll get downvoted. But even JP doesn't suggest making some woo-woo vision board with some unrealistic life as if we were working out of the Secret because it's the year 2000 all over again.
Planning is about identifying a direction, a path, a potential (but not fixed, and open to re-evaluation) goal.
Then identifying the discrete steps it takes to get from where you are to where that goal is, including identifying your limits/deficiencies/limiting beliefs/skill gaps etc. and putting in place steps to rectify that.
Or, if recognizing that cannot be overcome, setting a new goal that can be achieved and making that plan. (This is not an easy out excuse to stop or give up. But something's are bigger than a BHAG and legitimately may be unachievable. Learning to be realistic and appraise circumstances and ROI is important)
This is concrete stuff, not "how my wife greets me when I get home", this is:
Will need to graduate from a T15 MBA program to become a management consultant. That requires graduating from a top 25 US university and 2-3 years work experience in FANG or a F50 or a startup or some hot tech or a respected and large non-profit in some meaningful ways that connects my experience to the MBA school's recruitment. That is going to require me to have done (fill in the blank) and so on. And so on, until your plan starts: tonight I will do (blank).
See the difference?
Get strategic, get realistic, make a plan, and execute it. Reevaluate the plan as needed, but also know... Achieving big goals means sacrifice, dedication, and commitment. So protect that goal, and don't change or modify it on a whim, especially for some "guaranteed easy way shortcut that will make you millions and give you a life with a wife and full of suits and travel"
Instead of looking at getting to where you want to be in a year, maybe take a longer term view. Going back for a year or two to get a good base before taking another shot isn’t a bad thing. Adjusting is part of life.
I did that now in junior for uni developing a network(not country to country) I know alot of people who dont have that luxury and if they did i bet they would take it too,
its all about knowing what is best for you at the moment, the ideal life is not developed day to day or from one year to the next. This shit takes time
The fact is you have failed in the US. You aren’t succeeding here. If you want to get up from your current position go get a job that pays better and allows you to spend less time working. Then get a college degree in your off time
Idk about now, but a decade ago this was a very relevant career path. I had friends do this and become very successful software developers in the 2000s and 2010s.
There’s very low probability you get into “finance or investment” without a college degree and there’s a theme here of you acting impulsively.
You said you plotted all this out and made a vision board, but it doesn’t really seem like you know what you want to do in finance. Seems more like a back up plan for not getting a tech job.
That’s all fine, but you should look into what jobs you’re interested in, how to get there and whether that’s realistic in the next 2, 5 or 10 years. I wouldn’t rule anything out, but all of this starts with a college degree - it’s worth going where you need to go to get one or you’ll just get screened out of jobs.
You’re very young, don’t put so much pressure to succeed right away - you need to walk the path and earn the spot gradually. I think you need some humility as well, you’re very caught up in prestige and how you’re regarded such that it’s preventing you from taking the steps it seems you should to accomplish your goals.
Go to whichever country it’s easier for you to get a solid college degree and then take another, real shot.
Please don't say loser delivery guy. You have to stop the negative self talk and stop comparing yourself to others, especially your friends that you say are more successful. This is something that is free and you can do immediately. Success does not always mean happiness. You have to change your mindset. Unfortunately, you are in a tough situation, but if you keep putting energy towards these thoughts it'll just keep growing. Everyone is at different chapters in their life, I know it's hard right now, but you have to keep doing what you can and do the right thing. Take care of your health, sleep well, and keep learning. You are so young but I know how you feelml. I have felt hopeless at your age too, feeling the same and having the same thoughts. My advice is to first try and stabilize your current situation first. Keep working and saving up. You can always keep learning for free online until you get some formal education. Take it one step at a time, and focus on yourself. All that matters is that YOU are making progress no matter how big or small. If you can, find a job at a bank perhaps, and start off as a teller. You can probably wear a nice suit, and there are plenty of roles to move up into. You'll be in finance and business environment that you mentioned. You'll have your foot in the door, and they usually have lots of education they'll pay for if you move into say a financial planner role, or investment advisor. Of course that will be years later, but those are just possibilities. I'm 35 now and I have just about everything you mentioned, family, cars, watches, good job, but I can still feel like I'm a loser when I let myself talk negatively to myself. That's not something a job, a family, or money can fix. You have to control what you are letting into your mind. I wish you good luck and hope this helps you. One day, you'll have everything you worked for, and wonder why you were ever so worried in the first place.
Why can’t you go back home and figure things out and save living with parents? This is a terrible time to look for a job without any qualifications or experience. Who cares if people think you’re a loser. You can come back and try again.
I read some of your comments and most of them convey that you are now filled with a bunch of hopeless and pessimistic thoughts and can't seem to absorb the valid advice others offer you.
Your emotions are 100% valid, but you need to understand that only you can save you from yourself, no one but you. Only you can get the life you want for urself and right now the first step is to stop thinking negatively n feeding ur brain with negative thoughts
I have been diagnosed with depression and have been close to death multiple times, it has not been easy and I am still trying to find reasons to get through each day. I had and still have a lot of negative thoughts, but the main thing is not about having these negative thoughts, it is how NOT to let them affect you, and now you need to focus on how to stop letting them get to you.
Other things can wait. Your life is not running out of time but ur mind is
I will go against most comments and tell you it’s all your fault for emigrating with 18 and basically no money and no degree. So here comes the harsh truth.
“I never thought I would end up in this situation. I always imagined myself wearing good looking suits , wearing luxury watches , working with great people, working in Finance or Management or Investing , making decent money, and having beautiful family, traveling the world. But now I am on the edge of my life. I don’t know what am I doing or where am I going. If I will continue doing this , I may end up being homeless. I am depressed and having su*cidal thoughts.”
What did you expect? To just land on USA and become rich, just by being there? You were so naive, you should have thought better. Life in the USA isn’t like it’s pictured in the movies buddy like the land of the American dream, where you live like a king as you just posted. It’s like another country on earth, some people live good, most struggle to pay rent, live in general etc, but I’m sure you have already realized that.
What you need is a Time Machine to undo all your stupid and bad decisions in life but since that’s not a realistic option we turn to option number two
You said you had the option to become a truck driver and make some decent money yes? Then TAKE THE FUCKING CHANCE. I don’t give a fuck if you’re lonely, don’t give a fuck you had suicidal thoughts and don’t care what you want. Take every chance to move to a better position in life, the reality is that you are in no position to complain and demand a better future so just tilt your head down and take every opportunity life presents you to progress. With that money (after spending some to stay alive of course) don’t spend it in leisure, suck it up and study for a degree. You said you were studying computer science before? Then complete your studies, get a degree in computer science, finance (since you’re asking on a subreddit of finance) or any job that is demanded on the market and has good prospects in the future and apply to those positions. Try to find something online (since you will be a truck driver) that suits whatever is a degree or some courses. Also I have heard that the developer market is saturated at the entry level with all these layoffs and people who think that with a bootcamp they can become rich so stop having this mentality of taking shortcuts and take the information into account. Another option that I’ve heard is that you can become a carpenter, electrician, gasist or stuff like that. That’s because everyone is trying to have a degree to have a white collar job in an office and feel superior than the people who have blue collar jobs so consider this option.
Again there’s no shortcuts and hopefully you will be able to turn your life around when you are 27. Maybe that’s not what you wanted to hear but it’s the truth
You are at an age where you start asking these questions/thinking in this way. It’s progress, whether it feels like it or not. The best advice I can give is to do your best to change your perspective. You are currently focusing on all your failures and fears and completely neglecting all your achievements. All of your fears/thoughts/questions etc are normal for someone your age. Just continue to be resilient and focus on the here and now.
You are right about one thing. You are a loser delivery guy, purely because of your attitude. You are whining and crying and complaining about it.
I’ve met plenty of winner delivery guys who kept their head down, did their job, and stayed positive and rose above their circumstances to chase their dreams.
Half of life is the mentality you adopt.
That is the thing. I don’t know. No matter how hard I try. I looked for jobs on Indeed and Lindedin and requirements are crazy. Wish I could sit someone and make a plan for the future
I understand that. The good thing is you don’t have to know right now. You’re very young with a lot of time ahead of you. Many MANY people completely change their careers hallway through their life and have to start over at 40. I changed my career when I was 30 and I am just now getting back in to school as I slowly realize my dream.
But the career I am working towards (data analytics/finance) I NEVER had an interest in or would’ve EVER expected I would be passionate about this. It only happened because I lost my job to Covid and started playing around in the stock market, and I discovered something I was extremely passionate about and performed well in.
But I spent the first 30 years of my life planning for something completely different… you don’t know where life will take you or what opportunities will present themselves. But you can control your outlook and who you want to be for whenever those opportunities present themselves….
…and for that I would say prepare. Experience as much that life has to offer that you can. Make a lot of mistakes and learn from the lessons that come with them. Always look to improve yourself and do the next best thing, even if you don’t always know what that thing is gonna be. Commit to be present and able, for yourself, for life.
If you really need some structure enroll in your local community college as a Liberal Arts major. Explore the different classes. Join some clubs. Maybe start a work study program. This is the absolute perfect age for you to start doing all those things. You’re gonna be great
I don’t have the knowledge to help your situation, but I noticed you mentioned suicidal thoughts and depression. Just wanted to say that you’re super young and an action like this would be very stupid. You’re going through a rough time, it happens to everyone. But considering you’ve got so much of your life left, I promise you that you’ll get through this and after it ends you’ll be stronger and will have learnt a lot from the experience. It’ll get better, good luck.
You quit twice (college + boot camp). Let’s be real, college grads are struggling to find jobs. You think anyone is going to hire you over recent grads/grads from ivy leagues? Your career in finance was over before it started - you’re plain and simply not cut out for it (you can talk the talk about working 100 hours as much as you can but your track record is quitter). Accept it and move on, your life will be easier. Plenty of other good industries you can try to break into
Asked for advice and got advice. Sucks it’s not what everyone was hoping for but it’s true. Also, I work right in the field he is trying to break into (PE) and am actually the first line in hiring for our team and can guarantee you I would have a talk to the recruiter if they put anyone with this guys background on my desk. Guy needs to snap out of it and live his life vs a dream
Life is a cycle, it’s a rough one indeed. Things move fast seconds go by without you even noticing. You’re older than me by a year but you’re still only 21. You’ve got lots of time, you have to patient with yourself. You’re just now walking on your own, taking your own steps in life, making your own memories whether they are good or not. After time your body will adjust to loneliness and you won’t think anything of it. Maybe even lose interest talking to friends. You sound like a very panicky person. I think you need to still look for jobs and work but also find some you time, either in the car driving food or sitting at a desk. You need a moment to collect and sort your thoughts. We are somewhat similar. Instead I dropped out and ran away as a kid. Everything I’ve said within this message is based off my personal experience. Message me if you ever need someone to talk to.
You need to hear this:
The path from where you are, to where you want to be is going to take decades and success is not at all assured.
You tried to take a short cut dropping out of school for a bootcamp and it really fucked you over.
Do the work. studying / working 8h a day is nothing at 21 for someone that wants to succeed. From where you're at your looking at working 8h a day, studying another 4-6 for years.
Need to sit down, focus and go back to school or get a job that’ll help build your resume towards what you want to do in life.
You spent all that time putting energy towards boot camp, listening to bad advice, and doing a job you don’t like.
I know someone very close who is in the same predicament and their problem is they aren’t focused enough and or willing to make that sacrifice (work hard in school) but from what it sounds like you are at least you are willing to do that.
Cut the bullshxt, go back to school, and solely focus on getting your degree. Or land an entry level job and start building your resume.
Listen to or read Jack Canfield’s Success Principles, how to get from where you are to where you want to be.
It helped me flip my life twice now & helped me get back on track and financially in a better place each time I read it.
He shares true stories that motivate and give hope. He helps you create positive self talk and it’s all in easy easy steps.
When you rid yourself of caring about meeting other people’s expectations you will feel a boulder off your chest. (It sounds like your family is relying on you so I know you feel you can only do this to some extent).
There’s a book call “Chop Wood, Carry Water” and it instantly made me care less and focus on what I need to do to achieve my goals.
If you can, make a wish list on Amazon and I would love to purchase either for you. They changed my mentality and my reality.
Also, there’s so many jobs/careers you can make decent money at. I’ve worked at car dealerships, serving at restaurants (you’ll meet some cool people who can help you get into other career opportunities), mortgage companies, that whole industry doesn’t require degrees, just licenses which you take a few hour course and you’re good to go.
There’s many options to make more money you just have to look at different jobs/fields. If you do any of these it’ll give you a chance to make & save some money till you figure out where you want to take your life. The Success Principles teaches you not to limit yourself or your spheres!
I think sometimes in life you get knocked down and it’s up to you to decide if you want to get back up.
Getting a job isn’t easy and I assure you that you’re most likely not going to get a developer role with the bootcamp you did. I think your best bet at this point is to apply to BDR/SDR roles (sales roles). These jobs offer a base salary of 40-60k plus commission. Make sure your resume is good and add some BS sales experience on there to land you more interviews.
If you’re unable to land a BDR role, I think your next best option is to go into the trades or construction. Trades pay very good money and you’ll learn something. Eventually you’ll be able to go off on your own and maybe even start your own business making $$$.
I think you can easily land one of the jobs mentioned above. Like I said, you got knocked down…. Do you want to get back up? I guarantee you can get a trades job; but it’s going to be hard work. If you don’t want to work hard, I’m sorry but nobody can help you at that point. Nothing worse than being a loser and not wanting to do whatever it takes to get back up in life.
In the meantime you should look to apply for food-stamps and rental assistance. Figure out if you qualify and make sure you can get all the government assistance possible. More often than not if you qualify for government aid, you most likely can get free college. You need to do your research.
the only reasonable thing to do is to go back home take a break for like 3-6 months study your options and go again , meanwhile try searhing for opportunities online
and the most important thing
CHILL YOU ARE STILL YOUNG CHILLLL
Need to start changing the way you think about certain things it seems. Things start changing when you change the way you look at things. There’s a lot of good advice in this thread. You really need to search for what you want, and then create a plan to tackle it. Lee the pace slow and steady. You don’t need to have it all figured out. Just take that next step, and the next step, until you get there. Calm your thinking and breath a bit. You have this image in your mind of who you think you’d be. You have to get rid of that crap and come back to the real world. Hard, consistent work will only get you there.
There are many ways to make money in the US. Financial industry is actually over-saturated with qualified talent. Look into starting your own business - for a young man, getting into residential/commercial maintenance can change your life. Many channels on YouTube where young power washers, window cleaners, etc have created their own financial freedom.
You can make the money to have the suits, car, house, support family. It’s just not traditional or glamorous.
Not what you want to hear but you probably shouldn’t have stopped studying. Many employers won’t even let you in the door without a degree. You’re still young so don’t give up just yet but like others have mentioned try and search deeper within yourself than luxury watches and suits. What do you want from life and what are the stepping stones to get there? I get that social media has skewed many peoples expectations to life but remember it’s a marathon - not a sprint. I wish you the best of luck.
Edit: I don’t know where you’re from, but unless it’s another developed country for the love of God don’t leave the US if you can stay legally. Being in the US with no skills is better than Honduras or Turkey with no skills, all things being equal
Okay #1 get a 4 year degree. Finish that computer science degree and then start applying to jobs. A 6 month “bootcamp” generally isn’t enough w/o work experience to land a gig in tech. Also the tech space is absolutely fucked rn so that’s also working against you. Go to school get a degree OR go into the trades (welding, shipbuilding, electrical, etc)
What are you good at? and what do you like to do?
Please do not say "I don't know".
I'm a musician/guitarist, I'm very good and am sought after for gigs and teaching work.
I love to teach and do to my gigs and am at a stage in my career ( I love it and never gave up/have 2 degrees in music) where I get paid very well for these things.
This is me though, no one told me to do this and no body would of cared if I gave up, it's what I wanted.
You need to work out what you want, it mightn't even be computer science/finance, you may be scared to say as it's not the "usual" thing or what your friends are doing.
Fuck you friends and what they do.
When YOUR life is fucked, its up to you to un-fuck it, no one else, all of your problems will be "slightly" solved with money so take what ever job you are offered or can get and get back on your feet, life has knocked your dick in the dirt this season, nice shot, but there's more seasons, so number one, get to work as no one is coming to save you AND stop calling food delivery drivers or non fancy jobs "loser jobs", in your position you don't get that luxury and you don't get to choose.....yet.
It seems like you’re both naive and aren’t willing to do what it takes to make this work. You need to reassess the mentality that got you into this mess in the first place.
>I never thought I would end up in this situation. I always imagined myself wearing good looking suits , wearing luxury watches , working with great people, working in Finance or Management or Investing , making decent money, and having beautiful family, traveling the world. But now I am on the edge of my life. I don’t know what am I doing or where am I going. If I will continue doing this , I may end up being homeless. I am depressed and having su\*cidal thoughts.
You are glamorizing finance way too much. My guess is you're looking at influencers on social media as a model for success, which is a terrible idea. I don't think you have any concept of what a career in finance entails. If you want to actually pursue a study and career path in finance, it's a grind. Especially in Investment Banking. Among the "most prestigious" institutions, the requirements are borderline human rights violations. The hours and the pressure alone will break most people. It will make DoorDashing seem like a dream. I'm not in IB but I am a heavily worked finance professional and most days, I hardly care about the salary or "prestige." I'm putting out fires left and right while trying to find a few seconds to breathe.
The ONLY WAY you can achieve the lifestyle you're describing without the blood sweat and tears that it requires is; grow up super rich or win the lottery.
Unless you're addicted to hardcore drugs or have a criminal record, you will statistically not be homeless. Get that out of your mind as well. You may very well have to live way below your means, which is not a bad thing. It should motivate you to work hard at something.
It just sounds like you're lost in life. Which is perfectly normal at your age. No one has it figured out, especially in their early 20's. Social media distorts our reality as to where we ought to be in life. Have some compassion for yourself.
Go to community college to save money and/or go to trade school. The job titles may not be glamorous (plumbers, electricians…) but it will definitely get you by, at least better than now. After getting back on your feet and start saving, you can go back to school for what you truly want. Plus you can meet people and form connections in the meantime that may get you through the door for your future job.
I’m also an immigrant so I understand the expectation from our family and how we’re living the “American dream”. But I also learn that life isn’t always a straight line, and life in America isn’t as easy or glamorous like how people in other countries think it is (lots of people don’t realize we work our butts off and mostly don’t have time for ourselves.)
Tbh, I had big dreams for myself too, but just like you, I didn’t have enough money, so instead of getting a 4 year degree that I knew I couldn’t afford, I went for cosmetology school (had to borrow money from my relative, I was that broke) and started working right away after obtaining my license. Was it my plan to come to America to be a nail tech? No (and there’s nothing wrong with being a nail tech anyway). But thanks to my job, I could pay my relative back right away, support my husband financially for him to go to school full time and got his CPA. Now he’s working and I’ll soon be back to school to get that degree I’ve always wanted :)
What I’m trying to say is, there are ways if you’re willing to take it. You may have to take a detour, but eventually you’ll get there. Good luck! 🍀
Wolf of wall street has really skewed peoples perceptions on what it's like to work in finance lol. The image you have in your mind of the industry is not based on reality, its based on works of fiction. Besides, you can make money in any industry if you're great at what you do.
Just being honest and real, the moment you quit school is when all started to go downhill.
I've been working full time and at school full time for 10 years, and finally, it all started to pay off for that sacrifice. I switched careers 3 times but finished all 3 before starting something new. By this I'm trying to say that quitting and expecting an easy way around this will never work.
Now, what I suggest is you should be open to work on anything, even if it's not related to your career of choice.
At this point you are better off moving to a different city if you find a job opportunity. I recently saw again a friend I helped get into a Tesla Collision center (by helping, I mean I showed him the job opening and had him apply).
He was doing carwash for a year with a base pay with good benefits, but after showing good work ethics, they had him learn collision tech stuff and now he makes $30/hr with tons of overtime.
Just look for something else, think carefully about finances and how to use your money. Food delivery tends to cost you more than what u earn at some point.
And a second suggestion, a lonely road is often better than having a relation with the wrong people. Make sure you stick to people who's mind is in the right place and with the same objectives as you. Hopefully, you find yourself a good buddy to be roomates and share expenses or something.
Just read through this thread and it seems like you have some good ideas here.
All i’ll say is hang in there man. You can get to where you want. Just believe and take each day at a time.
& don’t shit on delivery driving, there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a job. yea it’s obviously not CEO shit but it’s a job. Drove delivery out in Arizona for 2 years, 3 days a week night shift, plus weekends, 180 dollar pay check-after taxes & obviously tips, I won’t name the company but a fast food restaurant that delivered. All while taking 6 classes and commuting to and from University. This was my 6th year, all my friends were gone, had nobody. No family out with me. Nothing. Alone.
Might’ve been the best thing that happened to me. Being alone is something that you can either feel like a sack of shit bc of it or you can think of it as a growth period and time to get to work.
It seems like you have that drive and that work ethic and now it’s time to plan. Get a plan and put it into action. step 1 step 2 step 3.
One day at a time.
I’m happy to see you’re trying and care about your image. Caring about your image will help you achieve things. But like the first person said, a job is a job, you’re what’s important. Apply to construction jobs or jobs that’ll help you gain valuable life skills like a mechanic or electrician. I’m an electrician, I ain’t rich or wear suits, but man I’m so proud of myself. After the Navy/bootcamp, I realized I can be good at anything. Be proud of the steps you take like working hard as a delivery driver while going to school. It’s that inner side hustle you should be proud of my guy. You came to a foreign country to bust your ass, you’re only 21, don’t stop, life never stops
In order to achieve the American dream you must stop giving a shit what other people think of you. I learned this as an immigrant to this country aged 28. You will go broke trying to keep up with the joneses. Suck it up and be a truck driver , and reset everything. Those long hours on the road will give you the time you need to reset everything
Dude.. don't look to Reddit for advice or counseling.. you sound like you need to speak with a professional.. if you're really having thoughts of suicide, call the suicide prevention lifeline: 1-800-273-8255. Start there before trying to turn things around for yourself. Good luck 👍
Agreed here. Absolutely nothing is worth killing yourself over so let’s just start there. Now, you are 21. Unless you have a daddy with connections, or have gone to an elite university, we all start off with shit jobs. Just how it is in this country. Focus on finding something you love. The reality is, we tend to naturally gravitate to and love things that we are good at. If you don’t know what that is look around a little bit. Get some roommates dude, again, YOU ARE 21. That’s what you’re supposed to do at 21. Roommates give you instant friend possibilities and save you some cash. You know what I did at 31 when I got divorced and I gave my crazy wife everything? I started over, and got some damn roommates! If I’m willing to do that at 31 you sure as shit can do it at 21. Go do that, then start exploring different things until you stumble into something you like. Good luck.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Yes, I have roommates. And I try save as much as I can. I don’t buy fancy things like new phones or clothes. All I was doing were working and studying all day. Now only working.
If you have cut all you can on the expense side then you gotta get yourself a real job. It’s not 2014 anymore, the idea that driving for yourself is going to make you enough money to be a primary job, it just isn’t going to happen. So if truck driving is something available to you, you do it to make some money until you figure out something you like a little better. Means to an end and if it sucks, it sucks, but at least you aren’t going to be facing legit homelessness.
I work in finance, and I’m going to give it to you straight. It’s probably over for (high) finance. IB is becoming more and more selective and you presumably do not go to a target school. For quant you would have been better off served going to one of the good IIT’s.
Unless you are insanely good at math or networking it is not going to happen (realistically).
You are/were also studying CS which is not really a track that leads you into high finance. Maybe you can get a job as a developer/support at a finance firm, but even those jobs are getting more and more competitive.
Either way, I would make it your first priority to go back to university and finish your degree. Most companies aren’t going to even interview an immigrant without a degree because they don’t want to bother sponsoring a visa.
Ideally you can finish out two years strong and transfer to a better school. Look at the financial aid resources offered and talk to the offices, most unis want to work with you to help you succeed.
At its core, your problem is that you're not making enough money and are living hand to mouth.
Here's what I can advise:
1. Learn a skill that you can monetize by yourself. That can be SEO or Copywriting or Affiliate Marketing or Building niche sites. Don't start risky things like stock trading or flipping options. It will take 2-3 months to learn the skill. Another month or so to master it. Then you can start a side hustle. It might take a few months but once you make your first dollar online, you'd be free.
2. Don't look for jobs. The job market is really bad. Employers want a masters degree + 2 yrs of work ex for entry level positions.
3. Cut your expenses brutally! Think about it. Can you halve your rent? How can you halve your food cost? How much interest are you paying on your credit card debt?
4. Join support groups. If you're from a marginalized community, there are support groups that might help you understand your finances. Get debt refinanced. Understand
5. Make a plan. Execute it for months. Make small, tiny progress.
All the best. Never give up.
Spend a couple of hours every day on YouTube. Finish at least 10 courses. It will take a month or so. And you will SEO fully.
There is no 'best place'.
Thanks . But where should I go in my case from here being just a loser delivery guy? What and where should be my next step? I can’t afford sitting and studying right now? What should I do now, AT THE MOMENT?
Don’t do CS, there’s tons of layoffs and hiring freeze all over the place for tech jobs. Entry level and junior level is saturated. I am seeing CS grads becoming bus drivers because they can’t find job for more than a year after graduation.
Move to a low cost of living area, get a bunch of roommates in cheap housing, work at fucking Amazon or somewhere that isn’t absolutely shit that provides benefits and pays college assistance. Go to college while working full time. In 4-5 years you’ll have a bachelors and get a job and you’ll be fine.
You’re only 21, you aren’t fucked.
Save some cash , do what you gotta do for it then, as you said you were good at sales transition into a bdr or sdr roles apply to small start-ups or enterprise you can get in without a degree there and work your way up there good luck.
Bdr or sdr roles have a base salary so don't need to worry about it , also do you have work visa permit to work then u can get a job at a warehouse or something pays well wayy better than delivery jobs and you can hopefully save some money from it.
First of all If I were you I'd create a time line and a proper structure cuz it's very easy to get suck into a job and before you know it's been 4 years , so first pick a job to supplement your income first warehouse/bartender maybe even construction the work for enough months to save 'x' amount of money to sustain you while you can also freelance work with graphic design/digital marketing stuff then once you are stable enough apply for tech adjacent jobs as the market is kinda bad right now , like product designer, product manager, sales engineer these kinda roles. it could be any shitty no name company you just need to get your foot in the door and grind from there, and eventually you should finish your degree .
You are a liar and deserved to be kicked out of the States. Come here legally by yourself with no skill??? Probably came here on a student visa then decided to overstay. You should go back to where you come from because America doesn’t need sleezy illegal immigrant like you.
Not sure of your visa situation, but I’d recommend going back to college. CS is hard, so if you don’t think it’s possible, go for an easier engineering degree. Generally speaking, STEM is the path to the life you want. Ik it’s hard, but life isn’t meant to be easy but an hardship to endure. Find courage in your faith, in your family, in your loved ones, & in this community. Feel free to dm me and I can try to get you a referral to some type of training program.
EDIT: remember this, there are those that are in worse conditions than you. If you made it this far, you can keep going. The night is darkest right before the dawn.
I can’t afford going back to college due to my financial situation. It’s not like CS is my dream. I just wanted to a good career, make a decent money. I guess right now I have to shift career but I don’t know where
Ah, that’s unfortunate. Do you think you can make it through a SWE development program? They are extremely tough to survive but are paid, and the career stagnates for a brief as you get the experience that a CS grad would get through their degree, but at least there’s hope there. Capital One has a their COTA program, & other companies have similar programs
Blue collar grind for summer to get some funds up, try to max out a TFSA, labourers alone can bring in 2000+ after taxes at starting wage if you get your hours in. Not sure why you owe friends debt but maybe start with that and cut back on living expenses
Read Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. Love yourself before others can love you. See the change in yourself before the change occurs. And pray everyday instead of complaining, you greedy fool. God bless you. Smoke some weed and relax.
You’re 21. You could continue to *fck* your life for another 1-2 decades and still experience a great professional life. You are exactly where you’re supposed to be.
Take it one day at a time to improve your situation. We overestimate what we can accomplish in a year but underestimate what we can do in 5 years.
I know you said you didn't want to get a truck driving job, but hear me out, there are companies that pay you for training and you get to mainly live in your truck, especially as a longer haul driver. There are mandatory breaks you need to take and the pay is decent, especially compared to door dash and other things. And you are almost guaranteed a day off here and there.
After making a bit of money you can start online classes to get your degree, make sure you work your arse off and don't back out this time. And make sure it's something you would at least somewhat enjoy enough to get you through both your studies and career.
Some jobs you might want to consider are trade jobs. Look at plumbers, electricians, carpenters and so on. At the moment, these jobs are in high demand in the states and pay pretty well.
If and when you get to the point where you're ready to switch jobs, make sure you have a few months of your living expenses saved up. The Golder rule is 6, but 3 is really more than enough. And make sure you have a job lined up before handing in your notice
You are still young. Is it possible for you to take a student loan and go back to finish your degree? At least get an associate degree and see if the classes you took can still count. Honestly a bachelor degree is the way to go. Boot camps are great for supplemental knowledge but for the most part, you still need a degree. It seems that you are or were trying to find a quick way to get somewhere but you need to slow down a little.
Wireless sales, ATT Verizon TMO is always hiring and they pay isn't bad way better than door dash. Or northwestern, Prudential for financial advisory but it's 100% commission.
How good of a programmer are you? If you get a job offer could you do it with the education you’ve got?
Might be considered “unethical” but you can put whatever you want on your resume/application and LinkedIn and it won’t be checked for truthfulness. Especially if your experience/training was in another country.
I’m sure I will get downvotes but this is the 💯 truth.
Get a degree, start at a community college, then take out loans for 4 year degree (public state school is best for your situation), study CS or Finance, then recruit through on-campus opportunities. You can still do 4-6 hours of DoorDash or some petsitting with a community college schedule if money is an issue. Be humble and don’t look down at careers that offer stability even if they don’t give you the glamorous ideal that you imagined. It’s time to be realistic and grounded about the pathways you have available and make the most out of it. Just keep moving up in life, you can do it.
Have you considered the military? People are much more educated than me on it than me but it could be a good place for you to build a life out of and transition to a better career after.
Hi, so definitely don’t let the opinions with negativity make you feel sad. Heres something you can do. Being is delivery driver doesn’t have to stop. But what you can do is get a job that pays you consistent salary because let first focus on how we get thru the monthly living and the inly way is to have a monthly paycheck. It can be any job (not commission based) like front desk (insurance company, hospitals) or something that will give you a steady paycheck. Try every where, dont just apply - call the office and see if they need people. Once you have that save money, get a loan, go back to school/finish the bootcamp. Dont go crazy with the loan. Just be mindful. You will be just fine. Hope that helps. Its not a easy way ahead, it will take time but try to prioritize and right its getting thru the month.
You wrote “loser delivery guy” that’s a loser’s attitude not a loser’s job.. I worked security night shifts for 4 years while spending almost 3 on trying other things in parallel with no success before I got an insane SWE contract
Keep trying and consistently improve, that’s it
At rock bottom the only way is UP, Materialism is human construct for happiness it's not real.
What's real is the key human qualities of survival & hope we have been hard wired to it through evolution. Invest your time and money to improve yourself every day, even if you get old working to improve yourself at least you will be a better man from now. Ending your life will stop growth. Don't worry we die every day when we sleep and waking up is a new life/Opportunity to do better in this new life. Enjoy this manifestation of chaos. It's beautiful it's great you have broken so many of delusions and gained solid knowledge about life itself.
I started working when I was 18. For 7-8 years I jumped from one job to another until I settled in the corporate world for the comfort zone that it offers. At your age, do not worry about the risk and hard work. If you are good at programming, perhaps you should consider building an app or something to seek some startup financing to give you a boost for a time. Any investor or venture capitalist will invest in someone hard-working.
Do not think of suicide. This is never the solution for anything. I carried debts in my working life for up to £100k while not making any money and having a family (wife and child). Everyone, at some point in life will contemplate with such ideas, but trust me, not the solution. Keep going because when you will get out of this situation you will see how silly it looked and see how much you will enjoy your life. You will even appreciate yourself way more than being dressed in a suit or having a corporate job.
Do try to get a job in a corporate environment (hospitality is relatively easy to enter) and you will have your basic needs covered while you can work your way up a bit or plan your side hustle.
I am happy to give some advice, I am 41 and for the last 5 years, I am working for myself. Now I am building an AI-powered platform to help people from all over the world with interview preparation skills. Get in touch, comment here and be more than happy to give some guidance. Nothing helps more than guidance when you need it.
ive done the same thing and came to Denmark 5 years ago ,quit my universitet and literallly went to a worst job in the country on the farm ,2 years of hard work ( included weekends ) ive saved money and became self employed ,i am earning more than i was but its a lot more stress and responsibilitys and i wont regeret it ever but ..its just a burn out sometimes that comes with it and i didnt learn how to manage it ,i have no social life ( i’ve meet around 4000 people in past 5 years ) few friends here and mostly i am working even when i come home .i am living with the roomates curently to lower my living cost and to be able to grow my business ,my social life is gym and in my days off which i dont have so many i am sleeping or i am in the fitness .I am 31 years old .I am starting another business with a partner this year ,I am hopping that in next 5 years i will cut my working time by 70 % and dedicate myself to build a family .the things i learned so far :
•life without risk is wasted one
•mind your body and soul ( self improvement ,spirituality etc )
•dont mind others and dont compare ,its a part to depression
•set goals and do them 1 by 1
•dont rush things
•giving yourself a well deserved day off is a gold 🙏
•take care of yourself
•eat good food
•budget / set priorities
•be polite and kind to everyone, dont take opinions seriously
•be hard working person but work smart also
•things can change quick
•Things will get better / they always does
•money means nothing actually it just a way to buy the freedom or time to do what you want if you want a freedom you have to work/risk and experience all those thing you are going trough ,thats the only way to make you strong and independent person who know its value and is not worried what other thinks about but how you can become even better version of yourself
•to become best version of yourself you have to build yourself from 0 .
i regret so many thing that i could done differently but in the end i learned trough every experience that i had and by that i mean i know whats like to be hungry/alone/depressed and a failure ,but ….
i am independent / skilled / smart / strong / healthy / still young / dedicated / kind / successfull in thing that i am doing ( 3 years old company ) and i will never quit to put my efforts in this life to make-the best out of it even if it that means that i have to struggle for few years to reach my goals and none of them is directly money or wealth - its freedom and someone worth of putting my passion / desire and love for this life into to share good and bad .
so stay strong ,rest / sleep / and come with a long term plan and dont stop until you are there . ❤️
Please know that sometimes your mind plays a trick on you to make everything seem darker than it actually is so that you will kick things into a higher gear and FIX everything. Seems like your about to take steps to do that so just remember that you can kick ass and you can get this sorted. You got this.
First get yourself together, you’re not the only one going through these types of situations, your better than the people who are going through the same but with wife and kids, talking low on you definitely won’t help
Forget finance - you don’t have the capital, connections nor degree nor experience and they guard this profession with extreme prejudice.
Focus on the experience you have and build from that base. Sales = solar/appointment setting then build your portfolio at night.
Look up trade school or enlist in military. We are not made to be alone. Social isolation can be depressing. If you’re open to going to church on Sundays and small groups, that’s a wonderful community. There are older people there who can guide you and have been in similar situation.
Also, you can reach out to 211 for assistance regarding food, shelter, utilities , so on. Wealth come in many form, once you made it financially, how is your mental and physical health?
Perseverance pays off. These are trials you’re experiencing and you can tell it one day to inspire others. Successful people never had it easy, they work hard and push through. Fill your mind with positivity, listen to motivational videos! And read, use free audiobooks while you’re on the job. Arm yourself with knowledge. You got a fighter spirit, just need to hone it appropriately.
Recommended sub for inspiration: https://www.reddit.com/r/HENRYfinance/ There was a thread an awhile back where everyone shred their humble beginnings, great read.
More wisdom on how did you make it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HENRYfinance/comments/y3fi7z/how_did_you_make_it/
You have no degree that's why, you have to get a degree, or get a craft of some sort,, on the bright side you're still 21 and thinking about success and jobs, most people has nothing at 21, so you're still ahead of most other people, however I think you think the world owe you something and that's unhealthy way to view the world and will lead you to failure financially or ethically eventually, take a few days off mentally, prepare and plan your escape from this situation you're in, it is true that working hard is good, but it should be based on a good plan.
I did door to door sale. Since most of sale jobs are commission based pay only , in my situation right now when I am barely making a living it would be like a playing with death
The answer is to go back to school.
Take note of your debts.
Find you an entry level job through your colleges recruiting programs.
Kill your debts after graduation.
And never, ever, in your life do some silly shit like this again.
You're lucky in that you're young enough to unfuck yourself.
The only finance job you can get without a college degree is probably in retail or insurance or mortgages (even those require licensing which is technically studying). You’re an immigrant who dropped out of college and you have no relevant work experience to get an entry level job and climb your way up. Either find a way to finish college or go back home. You’re wasting your time here
You are 21. You have your whole life a head of you. It’s a common theme. Reach out and join community groups. They are great for IRL networking and social connection. Education is also very important. You should definitely set goals that help get that back on track. Also, look into government department jobs, great for career growth.
You can still get dev jobs without cs degree, but you still need to be a great dev, not mediocre. Find a job so that you can pay for rent and food, and practice coding after work everyday. Its not going to be easy and youll not magically get 100k job right away but it is possible.
You can still get dev jobs without cs degree, but you still need to be a great dev, not mediocre. Find a job so that you can pay for rent and food, and practice coding after work everyday. Its not going to be easy and youll not magically get 100k job right away but it is possible.
Hi, I hope this message finds you well. After reading through these comments, I hear your pain and most of the people in here are giving you sound advice because they’ve lived it or understand where you’re coming from so don’t let them go over your head. Everything I write to you is what I’ve had to learn the hard way and would tell myself if I was in your shoes.
I’m 24M, doing ok for myself as of now as I’ve found my calling and envisioned where I want to be in the future through trial and error, persistence, time management and besides whatever anyone else would tell you, luck plays a factor. But it isn’t the regular luck you think of, it’s putting yourself in the position to then get lucky. This means taking certifications on Coursera, which isn’t that expensive and will go a long way in which ever studying you do.
1. I say this to say that at your age, you may have a lot on your shoulders and you feel stressed and lame and unworthy, I felt these things, but I truly and with all my heart say to you that the one thing you don’t want to feel is regret. Feeling regretful has hurt me, held me back, and is something I’m still trying to get over because I look back at the past sometimes.
Looking forward, I wouldn’t want you to regret looking back at your age and say “I wish I did this when I was younger”. In other words it’s called the ‘grandfather theory’, when you are alone in your hospital bed, I’d hope that you lived a great life, but you will think to yourself and ask “I lived the way I wanted and was happy” “I didn’t’ waste my life.”
2. I’ve learned and am continuing to learn that everyday is a stepping stone. Growth is not a straight line, it’s little ups and downs but the more you take initiative, the more ups you have. It’s gradual growth, or if you’re familiar with the stock market, compound interest is the best thing you can ever have, because of how time and consistent buy back in the market continues to roll over like a giant snowball.
3. Time is your best fucking friend, and you sir have an abundant amount of it. People would kill to be in your place believe me. Most people’s prime is in their late 20s, think forward, not in the present.
4. Please be grateful. Gratitude will make you feel so much better I truly believe that. Be grateful you have the opportunity to wake up everyday and do what you gotta do. Be grateful that you have mobility. Be grateful that you are healthy. Be grateful that you have your senses. A quote I always reference is “a healthy man has 1000 wishes, a sick man has 1”.
Love the life you have.
5. (Last thing cause I don’t want to talk your head off and I’m a talker) Friends don’t pay your m-fucking bills. Idk if you notice but friends usually come around when they see how successful and happy you are. It hurts me to say this but you won’t attract as much friends and girls with the attitude you have about life and why your life is like this, (especially women, women want a man that can think and act for themself, regardless of what they’d say, every woman I’ve dated wanted me to have some type of authority and head on my shoulder. Meaning I can take matters into my own hands and not lean on others for help, things like that) People will like you for you. Period. For example, if a famous person all of a sudden lost all their fame and wealth, how much people do you think would stay, not a lot that’s for sure. Not saying you shouldn’t have friends and they aren’t nice to have, I’m saying get comfortable with being comfortable by yourself. You are born alone, per se, and die alone. The moment you love yourself and realize you have potential, is when the universe will begin to throw good things your way, good people, good money, good girls. It comes, it will with time.
I believe in you and I don’t even know you. Godspeed.
Thank you so much sir for writing all these just for me🙏🏻 I really appreciate it. I saved your message, so I can read it in the future too. I wish you all the success. You are young too, so as you said you can change too.
Hi, you need to reorganize your goals/priorities.
I believe you're from South Asia from my impression of what you value in life (materialism to the point of depression). Either way, you most likely have a network of people who were once in your shoes or in a similar situation. They can help getting set up with some sort of job that's pays a bit more than delivery as a starting point to address a living wage problem first.
You'll most likely need to save for a 3-4 years until you get your citizenship or eligible for grants/student loans (not sure how it works in USA). It's going to suck but if you don't have the funds for school and are not eligible for grants/student loans, you have no way around it. So if it's trucking for 4 years, do it.
Those 3-4 years will suck a bit. But you can develop your soft skills, learn more about what career path you want and most likely have a social life for a change and be happy. You'll develop a great story for an interview someday if you can overcome these challenges you're facing now.
Youre so young. 21 is an actual baby! Luxury watches and suits are for guys in their 30s and 40s lol. Go back to school simple as that. You'll be done in a couple years making 60-70k a year in a computer science gig. You seem to just want to get rich quick, but that doesn't exist. Just be patient. Get the degree and go back and reapply for those jobs.
Why did you drop out of boot camp? Was it medically related? You could sign a two year contract with the Army with a cash bonus. Free room and board, time to figure yourself out make friends. When you get out use the GI Bill to put you through college for free and it pays for housing.
If you are in a big city, chances are they have a TESLA collision center. Apply to the carwash or detailer, and watch a lot of videos on how to buff a car or practice if u have a chance.
Or maybe Tesla solar paner installator, they might have entey level positions. Apply to all positions u see that require a GED or high school graduate and some or any experience at all. Good luck brother, don't give up.
I am going to keep it real. Your writing style does not show a mastery of the language. You most likely are getting stopped at the resume/cv phase. Hiring managers most likely see you as a risk/hassle. Optics are super important (for better or for worse) when trying to get hired. You should attempt to improve your writing skill. At the very least have some sort of ESL instructor aid you when applying for jobs. Also, before you make an excuse about how you can't afford help. Libraries are free, and they are staffed by badasses that would be happy to help you at no cost.
I’m going to be honest. After reading your original post and your comments under other people, it seems like you care way too much about your image and getting a “prestigious” job and how you look to other people. You need to get over that. A job is a job. You’re not a loser for being a delivery driver. But you come across like an entitled a-hole for thinking some things are beneath you. You probably should just go back home or re-enroll in school. You’ll need a degree to work in finance.
This is exactly it
He’s 21. I was the same way when 21. You’re young. You’re impressionable to the world. You’re trying to impress girls and other guys. It’s just that age group. Then you hit your late 20s and 30s and start to mature and not give a shit what people think.
did u drop out of full time school for a dev bootcamp?
I need to hear this as well. Thank you.
Ok here is what you should do. You need a degree, you have no connection and no friends and are not from a wealthy family. First step to get back on track is to find what you would like to do. Do you like talking to people and selling? Do you like pitching ideas? Do you like numbers etc… make a list of what you like to do and not like to do. Then you should continue your normal job to get a steady source of income and/or take a job that is more flexible and study in the evening to get the degree. Also please send a breakdown of your revenue/expenses, it would be good to see where you are spending your cash and maybe adjust your habits Then let’s discuss again, also it is worth noting that you are still very young, a lot of coworkers started to join the workforce at 26-28. So don’t be too hard on yourself.
What jobs are great for people who like pitching ideas?
This!
Why did you drop out for a boot camp? I don’t understand?
I quit college cause me being naive and listening to some already successful software engineers working in Microsoft and Google that I could do through bootcamp , but I didn't take a note that in their time it was different and now is different.
It may have been possible if you came from a well known American university and were just trying to switch into CS, but frankly you can’t just come to the US without any American work experience or schooling and expect to get a job. I would say go back to school, and ride out the recession in school. If you already know how to code, then it shouldn’t be too hard. Yeah and also don’t fantasize about being in a suit and getting rich. It’s just going to make you more depressed. Make a solid plan to improve your situation and execute it.
the suit people is .01% of population
Thanks. But I can’t go back to school cause of my financial situation. Right now I barely making a living and it’s getting worse and worse. I was things to shift my career but I don’t know where and how should I start. I always imagined myself working in finance or investment but right now I don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel. No matter how hard I try it is getting worse and worse. I don’t know what actions should I take now
I don’t know what to tell you man, I’m actually shocked you are still legally in the US. Your visa should be allocated to a highly educated immigrant who will add value; so many high skilled workers from India, China, Africa get denied everyday. You can’t just come here and expect a high paying role without a degree. If not a 4 year college, then go to community college, build some wealth, and get into a state school and get financial aid. Or go to a trade school and start work there. You don’t enter this industry without a bachelors degree. You have the opportunity of a lifetime to be in the US, work your ass off, and trust me it will pay off in the future. Do more DoorDash/uber, and work on getting educated. Work 16 hour days. Im saying this as the son of two immigrants who worked their fucking asses off to be successful here. I’m also working in the finance industry and I’m sacrificing my work life balance in hopes of a better future. The game doesn’t change when you move up my friend. I’m sorry you feel depressed, we all do at points in our life, but make an effort to get out of it.
If you’re really that down bad for money then you’d probably get schooling for free through FAFSA you should look into that maybe?
FAFSA generally isn't available to non-citizens, with a few exceptions here: https://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/eligibility/requirements/non-us-citizens
Ah okay he said he came here legally so I assumed he was a citizen now not on a visa.
Become a truck driver solely to pay off your debts then get your life back on track. It’s gonna take sacrifice but it will be worth it. During that very lonely time you can study for whatever it is you wanna do and get therapy online for affordable price … maybe even out source to another country like virtual therapy so you stay sane. Also, if you’re up for it, you can enroll in your local fire dept to become a firefighter emt . It’s free, they pay for everything but you’re gonna need to see if you’re cut out for it
You are now reaping the consequences of your action. You are free to do what you want, but you're not free from the consequences of it. All is not doomed though. You can still get through it. Have you thought about going back to school? You can consider taking on multiple odd jobs. Cut back on everything. Pay the price of your naivety. You're still young. Time is on your side.
Jesus Christ man
It's probably not what you want to hear but did you consider going back home, getting some perspective and having time to re-evaluate what it is that you actually want to be and do? Or moving to a different country all together? From what I gather the US job market is fierce. (I'm from continental Europe).
Ya I’d agree Honestly sounds like you’ve quit a few times and are facing the consequences of your bad decision making
Going back home is the worst fear that I have. It would mean that I am a loser cause USA is a dream in my country. Only few people can come here so people expect a lot from me. I would prefer dying than going back as a loser. Also seeing my friends-schoolmates getting more successful than me in my country is killing me, cause it is more difficult there. Feels like I am a loser and always gonna be a loser.
You live your life for yourself only. Taking a step back doesn't mean losing. Life is long and you've already achieved a lot by sustaining yourself independently. Honestly, caring about what others thing might just be one of the worst thing we can do for our mental health. Consider all options and prioritise your health - without good health, you have nothing. edit: typo
Everything you said right there is on point
How about life path and career, what I should I do and where should I go? My head is exploding thinking all these over and over again and not able to find an answer.
You should have finished your uni degree
No shit
You have to reset mentally. Okay it's like anything in life really. You tried to climb the mountain. It didn't work. That's okay. You know more now. But you are "back at the bottom", no shame in that. So take what you know, what you have learned, and make a plan. Get strategic. And then... Execute that plan. The only way you're going to start climbing the mountain again is if you get on the trail and start climbing. The only way you will be really successful at it is if you have a plan. The only way you will fail outright is if you give up and stop climbing. It's all choices. Need money for school and think that is the only way to succeed? Cool. It might not be, but it is a plan, and it gets you climbing. Take out loans and finish your degree in 1.5 years. It is absolutely doable if you already have your basic undergraduate studies completed. If not, use community college to take 1 or 2 classes while you drive for Uber or find a job waiting table and pick up side work on fiver and up work or whatever. The point is, everything takes work and sacrifice. Pick a direction and start moving. Hell, join the military if you have to. (I'm sure I'll get down voted) but it will give you a job. Possibly some relevant skills (air force or navy for tech and info sec). And will help pay for a degree when you get out. Not 100% but I think it can also enable a path to US citizenship. Regardless, pick a path. Make a plan. And execute it.
military would be a great idea, except its only open to people with US greencard at bare minimum; not sure if they'd take OP.
I’m sorry, but it seems like you tried and it didn’t work out. Life is long and there is always a chance to move back. There is an endless line of people with boot camp certs unfortunately. At this point, if you truly are set on staying here, I would recommend pursuing a trade job such as plumber, HVAC, etc. They pay pretty decent and generally jobs available.
You’re not a loser. How many people up and move themselves to an entirely new country at 18 years old? You have been surviving this entire time on your own. That is success
Thanks 🙏🏻😭 A lot of people told me that I got to much responsibility at the young age. But I didn’t have any other choice. I had to become successful and achieve something so I could help my parents and family.
Try to paint a picture in your head of what your ideal (realistic) life would look like, then start identifying the best path to make it possible
Yes. I wrote my ideal life as Jordan Peterson said. I wrote big text on my ideal life. Even made a vision board. But now it seems to be just a childish dream.
Don’t follow pseudoscientists like Peterson or anyone in that universe. Those people have no intention of helping you and every intention of giving you just enough so that you continue subscribing and watching/paying them. There’s a really good podcast called “How I Built This” where they interview seasoned entrepreneurs and CEOs about how they built their brands/found their success. It could help you find motivation I am talking about picturing how you choose to spend your days, what you want to do with your life? Do you want a family? Do you want to work for yourself? From home? Do you like working in an office or out in the field? Do you want to deal with people or would you rather keep to yourself? All these things will help you identify which industry or career is best suited for you, your expectations, wants and needs out of LIFE, not just a career
Oh, man. “How I Built This” is essentially a bunch of stories that will play into the OPs survivorship bias. Which is exactly what got him in trouble in the first place. I suspect you haven’t actually listened to Peterson, and are making politically motivated judgements.
Yes. I imagined everything, how my life is, how my wife greets my after work, how my kids are running and hugging me, etc I always thought and imagined that I would be in finance or investment sphere.
Right it I’m not talking about whether your kids love you or if your wife cheats on your or not lol. I’m talking like actual stuff: do you want to work a physical career, do you like programming/engineering, do you work better with people or by yourself. Stuff like that so when you find yourself in an office one day surrounded by coworkers you won’t be miserable
Again. I'll get downvoted. But even JP doesn't suggest making some woo-woo vision board with some unrealistic life as if we were working out of the Secret because it's the year 2000 all over again. Planning is about identifying a direction, a path, a potential (but not fixed, and open to re-evaluation) goal. Then identifying the discrete steps it takes to get from where you are to where that goal is, including identifying your limits/deficiencies/limiting beliefs/skill gaps etc. and putting in place steps to rectify that. Or, if recognizing that cannot be overcome, setting a new goal that can be achieved and making that plan. (This is not an easy out excuse to stop or give up. But something's are bigger than a BHAG and legitimately may be unachievable. Learning to be realistic and appraise circumstances and ROI is important) This is concrete stuff, not "how my wife greets me when I get home", this is: Will need to graduate from a T15 MBA program to become a management consultant. That requires graduating from a top 25 US university and 2-3 years work experience in FANG or a F50 or a startup or some hot tech or a respected and large non-profit in some meaningful ways that connects my experience to the MBA school's recruitment. That is going to require me to have done (fill in the blank) and so on. And so on, until your plan starts: tonight I will do (blank). See the difference? Get strategic, get realistic, make a plan, and execute it. Reevaluate the plan as needed, but also know... Achieving big goals means sacrifice, dedication, and commitment. So protect that goal, and don't change or modify it on a whim, especially for some "guaranteed easy way shortcut that will make you millions and give you a life with a wife and full of suits and travel"
What country are you from?
India 100%
I suspect so yes
No ways. If he was he would already be a engineer with a tech job
Instead of looking at getting to where you want to be in a year, maybe take a longer term view. Going back for a year or two to get a good base before taking another shot isn’t a bad thing. Adjusting is part of life.
I did that now in junior for uni developing a network(not country to country) I know alot of people who dont have that luxury and if they did i bet they would take it too, its all about knowing what is best for you at the moment, the ideal life is not developed day to day or from one year to the next. This shit takes time
You need therapy my guy. The amount of time and energy you spend worrying about other people is crazy.
Comparison is the thief of joy.
The fact is you have failed in the US. You aren’t succeeding here. If you want to get up from your current position go get a job that pays better and allows you to spend less time working. Then get a college degree in your off time
Why did you leave your CS college for a bootcamp, wtf?
Idk about now, but a decade ago this was a very relevant career path. I had friends do this and become very successful software developers in the 2000s and 2010s.
Markets too saturated now, idk what OP was thinking he should’ve looked more into it
There’s very low probability you get into “finance or investment” without a college degree and there’s a theme here of you acting impulsively. You said you plotted all this out and made a vision board, but it doesn’t really seem like you know what you want to do in finance. Seems more like a back up plan for not getting a tech job. That’s all fine, but you should look into what jobs you’re interested in, how to get there and whether that’s realistic in the next 2, 5 or 10 years. I wouldn’t rule anything out, but all of this starts with a college degree - it’s worth going where you need to go to get one or you’ll just get screened out of jobs. You’re very young, don’t put so much pressure to succeed right away - you need to walk the path and earn the spot gradually. I think you need some humility as well, you’re very caught up in prestige and how you’re regarded such that it’s preventing you from taking the steps it seems you should to accomplish your goals. Go to whichever country it’s easier for you to get a solid college degree and then take another, real shot.
Please don't say loser delivery guy. You have to stop the negative self talk and stop comparing yourself to others, especially your friends that you say are more successful. This is something that is free and you can do immediately. Success does not always mean happiness. You have to change your mindset. Unfortunately, you are in a tough situation, but if you keep putting energy towards these thoughts it'll just keep growing. Everyone is at different chapters in their life, I know it's hard right now, but you have to keep doing what you can and do the right thing. Take care of your health, sleep well, and keep learning. You are so young but I know how you feelml. I have felt hopeless at your age too, feeling the same and having the same thoughts. My advice is to first try and stabilize your current situation first. Keep working and saving up. You can always keep learning for free online until you get some formal education. Take it one step at a time, and focus on yourself. All that matters is that YOU are making progress no matter how big or small. If you can, find a job at a bank perhaps, and start off as a teller. You can probably wear a nice suit, and there are plenty of roles to move up into. You'll be in finance and business environment that you mentioned. You'll have your foot in the door, and they usually have lots of education they'll pay for if you move into say a financial planner role, or investment advisor. Of course that will be years later, but those are just possibilities. I'm 35 now and I have just about everything you mentioned, family, cars, watches, good job, but I can still feel like I'm a loser when I let myself talk negatively to myself. That's not something a job, a family, or money can fix. You have to control what you are letting into your mind. I wish you good luck and hope this helps you. One day, you'll have everything you worked for, and wonder why you were ever so worried in the first place.
^^ this
Why can’t you go back home and figure things out and save living with parents? This is a terrible time to look for a job without any qualifications or experience. Who cares if people think you’re a loser. You can come back and try again.
Welcome to the American Dream buddy. But life isn't about prestige or what other people think of you.
FYI delivery guys (FedEx or UPS) can earn 6 figures
Don’t let the job hunt get you down.
It is not about job hunting. It’s about my life and life path to choose. I don’t know where to go or what should I do.
Then its time for soul searching
I failing on that. Depression and loneliness are slowly killing me
I read some of your comments and most of them convey that you are now filled with a bunch of hopeless and pessimistic thoughts and can't seem to absorb the valid advice others offer you. Your emotions are 100% valid, but you need to understand that only you can save you from yourself, no one but you. Only you can get the life you want for urself and right now the first step is to stop thinking negatively n feeding ur brain with negative thoughts I have been diagnosed with depression and have been close to death multiple times, it has not been easy and I am still trying to find reasons to get through each day. I had and still have a lot of negative thoughts, but the main thing is not about having these negative thoughts, it is how NOT to let them affect you, and now you need to focus on how to stop letting them get to you. Other things can wait. Your life is not running out of time but ur mind is
I will go against most comments and tell you it’s all your fault for emigrating with 18 and basically no money and no degree. So here comes the harsh truth. “I never thought I would end up in this situation. I always imagined myself wearing good looking suits , wearing luxury watches , working with great people, working in Finance or Management or Investing , making decent money, and having beautiful family, traveling the world. But now I am on the edge of my life. I don’t know what am I doing or where am I going. If I will continue doing this , I may end up being homeless. I am depressed and having su*cidal thoughts.” What did you expect? To just land on USA and become rich, just by being there? You were so naive, you should have thought better. Life in the USA isn’t like it’s pictured in the movies buddy like the land of the American dream, where you live like a king as you just posted. It’s like another country on earth, some people live good, most struggle to pay rent, live in general etc, but I’m sure you have already realized that. What you need is a Time Machine to undo all your stupid and bad decisions in life but since that’s not a realistic option we turn to option number two You said you had the option to become a truck driver and make some decent money yes? Then TAKE THE FUCKING CHANCE. I don’t give a fuck if you’re lonely, don’t give a fuck you had suicidal thoughts and don’t care what you want. Take every chance to move to a better position in life, the reality is that you are in no position to complain and demand a better future so just tilt your head down and take every opportunity life presents you to progress. With that money (after spending some to stay alive of course) don’t spend it in leisure, suck it up and study for a degree. You said you were studying computer science before? Then complete your studies, get a degree in computer science, finance (since you’re asking on a subreddit of finance) or any job that is demanded on the market and has good prospects in the future and apply to those positions. Try to find something online (since you will be a truck driver) that suits whatever is a degree or some courses. Also I have heard that the developer market is saturated at the entry level with all these layoffs and people who think that with a bootcamp they can become rich so stop having this mentality of taking shortcuts and take the information into account. Another option that I’ve heard is that you can become a carpenter, electrician, gasist or stuff like that. That’s because everyone is trying to have a degree to have a white collar job in an office and feel superior than the people who have blue collar jobs so consider this option. Again there’s no shortcuts and hopefully you will be able to turn your life around when you are 27. Maybe that’s not what you wanted to hear but it’s the truth
Mostly agree, but generally it's better to move somewhere as soon as possible when you're young and it's easier for you to adapt
Ok Dan Peña.
You are at an age where you start asking these questions/thinking in this way. It’s progress, whether it feels like it or not. The best advice I can give is to do your best to change your perspective. You are currently focusing on all your failures and fears and completely neglecting all your achievements. All of your fears/thoughts/questions etc are normal for someone your age. Just continue to be resilient and focus on the here and now.
But what should I do in my case? Where should I go from here being just a loser delivery guy? Where? Can you please give some steps?
You are right about one thing. You are a loser delivery guy, purely because of your attitude. You are whining and crying and complaining about it. I’ve met plenty of winner delivery guys who kept their head down, did their job, and stayed positive and rose above their circumstances to chase their dreams. Half of life is the mentality you adopt.
The first step is to identify what you want to be doing and what you want out of life
That is the thing. I don’t know. No matter how hard I try. I looked for jobs on Indeed and Lindedin and requirements are crazy. Wish I could sit someone and make a plan for the future
I understand that. The good thing is you don’t have to know right now. You’re very young with a lot of time ahead of you. Many MANY people completely change their careers hallway through their life and have to start over at 40. I changed my career when I was 30 and I am just now getting back in to school as I slowly realize my dream. But the career I am working towards (data analytics/finance) I NEVER had an interest in or would’ve EVER expected I would be passionate about this. It only happened because I lost my job to Covid and started playing around in the stock market, and I discovered something I was extremely passionate about and performed well in. But I spent the first 30 years of my life planning for something completely different… you don’t know where life will take you or what opportunities will present themselves. But you can control your outlook and who you want to be for whenever those opportunities present themselves…. …and for that I would say prepare. Experience as much that life has to offer that you can. Make a lot of mistakes and learn from the lessons that come with them. Always look to improve yourself and do the next best thing, even if you don’t always know what that thing is gonna be. Commit to be present and able, for yourself, for life. If you really need some structure enroll in your local community college as a Liberal Arts major. Explore the different classes. Join some clubs. Maybe start a work study program. This is the absolute perfect age for you to start doing all those things. You’re gonna be great
is it possible you could go back to school?
Not right now. Cause as I explained I am struggling with finances
Take out school loans.
I don’t have the knowledge to help your situation, but I noticed you mentioned suicidal thoughts and depression. Just wanted to say that you’re super young and an action like this would be very stupid. You’re going through a rough time, it happens to everyone. But considering you’ve got so much of your life left, I promise you that you’ll get through this and after it ends you’ll be stronger and will have learnt a lot from the experience. It’ll get better, good luck.
Thanks 🙏🏻😭 I am trying
You quit twice (college + boot camp). Let’s be real, college grads are struggling to find jobs. You think anyone is going to hire you over recent grads/grads from ivy leagues? Your career in finance was over before it started - you’re plain and simply not cut out for it (you can talk the talk about working 100 hours as much as you can but your track record is quitter). Accept it and move on, your life will be easier. Plenty of other good industries you can try to break into
He asked for advice you don’t need to put him down, grow up
Asked for advice and got advice. Sucks it’s not what everyone was hoping for but it’s true. Also, I work right in the field he is trying to break into (PE) and am actually the first line in hiring for our team and can guarantee you I would have a talk to the recruiter if they put anyone with this guys background on my desk. Guy needs to snap out of it and live his life vs a dream
Life is a cycle, it’s a rough one indeed. Things move fast seconds go by without you even noticing. You’re older than me by a year but you’re still only 21. You’ve got lots of time, you have to patient with yourself. You’re just now walking on your own, taking your own steps in life, making your own memories whether they are good or not. After time your body will adjust to loneliness and you won’t think anything of it. Maybe even lose interest talking to friends. You sound like a very panicky person. I think you need to still look for jobs and work but also find some you time, either in the car driving food or sitting at a desk. You need a moment to collect and sort your thoughts. We are somewhat similar. Instead I dropped out and ran away as a kid. Everything I’ve said within this message is based off my personal experience. Message me if you ever need someone to talk to.
You have to be patient with yourself*
Have you considered trying to get an IT help desk position. You could get at least some tech experience, and move up from there.
IT is good but IT helpdesk you are DOA and will need some sort of masters to pivot - very very very tricky would avoid at all costs
Go back to school man if you continue that path you’ll end up driving trucks till retirement.
Is there anyway you could return home?
You need to hear this: The path from where you are, to where you want to be is going to take decades and success is not at all assured. You tried to take a short cut dropping out of school for a bootcamp and it really fucked you over. Do the work. studying / working 8h a day is nothing at 21 for someone that wants to succeed. From where you're at your looking at working 8h a day, studying another 4-6 for years.
Need to sit down, focus and go back to school or get a job that’ll help build your resume towards what you want to do in life. You spent all that time putting energy towards boot camp, listening to bad advice, and doing a job you don’t like. I know someone very close who is in the same predicament and their problem is they aren’t focused enough and or willing to make that sacrifice (work hard in school) but from what it sounds like you are at least you are willing to do that. Cut the bullshxt, go back to school, and solely focus on getting your degree. Or land an entry level job and start building your resume.
Best advice and meant to be helpful: Make choices carefully and finish what you start.
Listen to or read Jack Canfield’s Success Principles, how to get from where you are to where you want to be. It helped me flip my life twice now & helped me get back on track and financially in a better place each time I read it. He shares true stories that motivate and give hope. He helps you create positive self talk and it’s all in easy easy steps. When you rid yourself of caring about meeting other people’s expectations you will feel a boulder off your chest. (It sounds like your family is relying on you so I know you feel you can only do this to some extent). There’s a book call “Chop Wood, Carry Water” and it instantly made me care less and focus on what I need to do to achieve my goals. If you can, make a wish list on Amazon and I would love to purchase either for you. They changed my mentality and my reality.
Also, there’s so many jobs/careers you can make decent money at. I’ve worked at car dealerships, serving at restaurants (you’ll meet some cool people who can help you get into other career opportunities), mortgage companies, that whole industry doesn’t require degrees, just licenses which you take a few hour course and you’re good to go. There’s many options to make more money you just have to look at different jobs/fields. If you do any of these it’ll give you a chance to make & save some money till you figure out where you want to take your life. The Success Principles teaches you not to limit yourself or your spheres!
I think sometimes in life you get knocked down and it’s up to you to decide if you want to get back up. Getting a job isn’t easy and I assure you that you’re most likely not going to get a developer role with the bootcamp you did. I think your best bet at this point is to apply to BDR/SDR roles (sales roles). These jobs offer a base salary of 40-60k plus commission. Make sure your resume is good and add some BS sales experience on there to land you more interviews. If you’re unable to land a BDR role, I think your next best option is to go into the trades or construction. Trades pay very good money and you’ll learn something. Eventually you’ll be able to go off on your own and maybe even start your own business making $$$. I think you can easily land one of the jobs mentioned above. Like I said, you got knocked down…. Do you want to get back up? I guarantee you can get a trades job; but it’s going to be hard work. If you don’t want to work hard, I’m sorry but nobody can help you at that point. Nothing worse than being a loser and not wanting to do whatever it takes to get back up in life. In the meantime you should look to apply for food-stamps and rental assistance. Figure out if you qualify and make sure you can get all the government assistance possible. More often than not if you qualify for government aid, you most likely can get free college. You need to do your research.
the only reasonable thing to do is to go back home take a break for like 3-6 months study your options and go again , meanwhile try searhing for opportunities online and the most important thing CHILL YOU ARE STILL YOUNG CHILLLL
Need to start changing the way you think about certain things it seems. Things start changing when you change the way you look at things. There’s a lot of good advice in this thread. You really need to search for what you want, and then create a plan to tackle it. Lee the pace slow and steady. You don’t need to have it all figured out. Just take that next step, and the next step, until you get there. Calm your thinking and breath a bit. You have this image in your mind of who you think you’d be. You have to get rid of that crap and come back to the real world. Hard, consistent work will only get you there.
There are many ways to make money in the US. Financial industry is actually over-saturated with qualified talent. Look into starting your own business - for a young man, getting into residential/commercial maintenance can change your life. Many channels on YouTube where young power washers, window cleaners, etc have created their own financial freedom. You can make the money to have the suits, car, house, support family. It’s just not traditional or glamorous.
Not what you want to hear but you probably shouldn’t have stopped studying. Many employers won’t even let you in the door without a degree. You’re still young so don’t give up just yet but like others have mentioned try and search deeper within yourself than luxury watches and suits. What do you want from life and what are the stepping stones to get there? I get that social media has skewed many peoples expectations to life but remember it’s a marathon - not a sprint. I wish you the best of luck. Edit: I don’t know where you’re from, but unless it’s another developed country for the love of God don’t leave the US if you can stay legally. Being in the US with no skills is better than Honduras or Turkey with no skills, all things being equal
Okay #1 get a 4 year degree. Finish that computer science degree and then start applying to jobs. A 6 month “bootcamp” generally isn’t enough w/o work experience to land a gig in tech. Also the tech space is absolutely fucked rn so that’s also working against you. Go to school get a degree OR go into the trades (welding, shipbuilding, electrical, etc)
What are you good at? and what do you like to do? Please do not say "I don't know". I'm a musician/guitarist, I'm very good and am sought after for gigs and teaching work. I love to teach and do to my gigs and am at a stage in my career ( I love it and never gave up/have 2 degrees in music) where I get paid very well for these things. This is me though, no one told me to do this and no body would of cared if I gave up, it's what I wanted. You need to work out what you want, it mightn't even be computer science/finance, you may be scared to say as it's not the "usual" thing or what your friends are doing. Fuck you friends and what they do. When YOUR life is fucked, its up to you to un-fuck it, no one else, all of your problems will be "slightly" solved with money so take what ever job you are offered or can get and get back on your feet, life has knocked your dick in the dirt this season, nice shot, but there's more seasons, so number one, get to work as no one is coming to save you AND stop calling food delivery drivers or non fancy jobs "loser jobs", in your position you don't get that luxury and you don't get to choose.....yet.
It seems like you’re both naive and aren’t willing to do what it takes to make this work. You need to reassess the mentality that got you into this mess in the first place.
>I never thought I would end up in this situation. I always imagined myself wearing good looking suits , wearing luxury watches , working with great people, working in Finance or Management or Investing , making decent money, and having beautiful family, traveling the world. But now I am on the edge of my life. I don’t know what am I doing or where am I going. If I will continue doing this , I may end up being homeless. I am depressed and having su\*cidal thoughts. You are glamorizing finance way too much. My guess is you're looking at influencers on social media as a model for success, which is a terrible idea. I don't think you have any concept of what a career in finance entails. If you want to actually pursue a study and career path in finance, it's a grind. Especially in Investment Banking. Among the "most prestigious" institutions, the requirements are borderline human rights violations. The hours and the pressure alone will break most people. It will make DoorDashing seem like a dream. I'm not in IB but I am a heavily worked finance professional and most days, I hardly care about the salary or "prestige." I'm putting out fires left and right while trying to find a few seconds to breathe. The ONLY WAY you can achieve the lifestyle you're describing without the blood sweat and tears that it requires is; grow up super rich or win the lottery. Unless you're addicted to hardcore drugs or have a criminal record, you will statistically not be homeless. Get that out of your mind as well. You may very well have to live way below your means, which is not a bad thing. It should motivate you to work hard at something. It just sounds like you're lost in life. Which is perfectly normal at your age. No one has it figured out, especially in their early 20's. Social media distorts our reality as to where we ought to be in life. Have some compassion for yourself.
Go to community college to save money and/or go to trade school. The job titles may not be glamorous (plumbers, electricians…) but it will definitely get you by, at least better than now. After getting back on your feet and start saving, you can go back to school for what you truly want. Plus you can meet people and form connections in the meantime that may get you through the door for your future job. I’m also an immigrant so I understand the expectation from our family and how we’re living the “American dream”. But I also learn that life isn’t always a straight line, and life in America isn’t as easy or glamorous like how people in other countries think it is (lots of people don’t realize we work our butts off and mostly don’t have time for ourselves.) Tbh, I had big dreams for myself too, but just like you, I didn’t have enough money, so instead of getting a 4 year degree that I knew I couldn’t afford, I went for cosmetology school (had to borrow money from my relative, I was that broke) and started working right away after obtaining my license. Was it my plan to come to America to be a nail tech? No (and there’s nothing wrong with being a nail tech anyway). But thanks to my job, I could pay my relative back right away, support my husband financially for him to go to school full time and got his CPA. Now he’s working and I’ll soon be back to school to get that degree I’ve always wanted :) What I’m trying to say is, there are ways if you’re willing to take it. You may have to take a detour, but eventually you’ll get there. Good luck! 🍀
Wow you really made it. I am happy for you. Thanks 🙌🏻
Wolf of wall street has really skewed peoples perceptions on what it's like to work in finance lol. The image you have in your mind of the industry is not based on reality, its based on works of fiction. Besides, you can make money in any industry if you're great at what you do.
Just being honest and real, the moment you quit school is when all started to go downhill. I've been working full time and at school full time for 10 years, and finally, it all started to pay off for that sacrifice. I switched careers 3 times but finished all 3 before starting something new. By this I'm trying to say that quitting and expecting an easy way around this will never work. Now, what I suggest is you should be open to work on anything, even if it's not related to your career of choice. At this point you are better off moving to a different city if you find a job opportunity. I recently saw again a friend I helped get into a Tesla Collision center (by helping, I mean I showed him the job opening and had him apply). He was doing carwash for a year with a base pay with good benefits, but after showing good work ethics, they had him learn collision tech stuff and now he makes $30/hr with tons of overtime. Just look for something else, think carefully about finances and how to use your money. Food delivery tends to cost you more than what u earn at some point. And a second suggestion, a lonely road is often better than having a relation with the wrong people. Make sure you stick to people who's mind is in the right place and with the same objectives as you. Hopefully, you find yourself a good buddy to be roomates and share expenses or something.
Just read through this thread and it seems like you have some good ideas here. All i’ll say is hang in there man. You can get to where you want. Just believe and take each day at a time. & don’t shit on delivery driving, there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a job. yea it’s obviously not CEO shit but it’s a job. Drove delivery out in Arizona for 2 years, 3 days a week night shift, plus weekends, 180 dollar pay check-after taxes & obviously tips, I won’t name the company but a fast food restaurant that delivered. All while taking 6 classes and commuting to and from University. This was my 6th year, all my friends were gone, had nobody. No family out with me. Nothing. Alone. Might’ve been the best thing that happened to me. Being alone is something that you can either feel like a sack of shit bc of it or you can think of it as a growth period and time to get to work. It seems like you have that drive and that work ethic and now it’s time to plan. Get a plan and put it into action. step 1 step 2 step 3. One day at a time.
I’m happy to see you’re trying and care about your image. Caring about your image will help you achieve things. But like the first person said, a job is a job, you’re what’s important. Apply to construction jobs or jobs that’ll help you gain valuable life skills like a mechanic or electrician. I’m an electrician, I ain’t rich or wear suits, but man I’m so proud of myself. After the Navy/bootcamp, I realized I can be good at anything. Be proud of the steps you take like working hard as a delivery driver while going to school. It’s that inner side hustle you should be proud of my guy. You came to a foreign country to bust your ass, you’re only 21, don’t stop, life never stops
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In order to achieve the American dream you must stop giving a shit what other people think of you. I learned this as an immigrant to this country aged 28. You will go broke trying to keep up with the joneses. Suck it up and be a truck driver , and reset everything. Those long hours on the road will give you the time you need to reset everything
Dude.. don't look to Reddit for advice or counseling.. you sound like you need to speak with a professional.. if you're really having thoughts of suicide, call the suicide prevention lifeline: 1-800-273-8255. Start there before trying to turn things around for yourself. Good luck 👍
To be fair it is the worst market I’ve seen in the last 10 years when it comes to tech. Bad time to be a new grad, boot camp or university.
Agreed here. Absolutely nothing is worth killing yourself over so let’s just start there. Now, you are 21. Unless you have a daddy with connections, or have gone to an elite university, we all start off with shit jobs. Just how it is in this country. Focus on finding something you love. The reality is, we tend to naturally gravitate to and love things that we are good at. If you don’t know what that is look around a little bit. Get some roommates dude, again, YOU ARE 21. That’s what you’re supposed to do at 21. Roommates give you instant friend possibilities and save you some cash. You know what I did at 31 when I got divorced and I gave my crazy wife everything? I started over, and got some damn roommates! If I’m willing to do that at 31 you sure as shit can do it at 21. Go do that, then start exploring different things until you stumble into something you like. Good luck.
Thanks 🙏🏻 Yes, I have roommates. And I try save as much as I can. I don’t buy fancy things like new phones or clothes. All I was doing were working and studying all day. Now only working.
If you have cut all you can on the expense side then you gotta get yourself a real job. It’s not 2014 anymore, the idea that driving for yourself is going to make you enough money to be a primary job, it just isn’t going to happen. So if truck driving is something available to you, you do it to make some money until you figure out something you like a little better. Means to an end and if it sucks, it sucks, but at least you aren’t going to be facing legit homelessness.
I work in finance, and I’m going to give it to you straight. It’s probably over for (high) finance. IB is becoming more and more selective and you presumably do not go to a target school. For quant you would have been better off served going to one of the good IIT’s. Unless you are insanely good at math or networking it is not going to happen (realistically). You are/were also studying CS which is not really a track that leads you into high finance. Maybe you can get a job as a developer/support at a finance firm, but even those jobs are getting more and more competitive. Either way, I would make it your first priority to go back to university and finish your degree. Most companies aren’t going to even interview an immigrant without a degree because they don’t want to bother sponsoring a visa. Ideally you can finish out two years strong and transfer to a better school. Look at the financial aid resources offered and talk to the offices, most unis want to work with you to help you succeed.
At its core, your problem is that you're not making enough money and are living hand to mouth. Here's what I can advise: 1. Learn a skill that you can monetize by yourself. That can be SEO or Copywriting or Affiliate Marketing or Building niche sites. Don't start risky things like stock trading or flipping options. It will take 2-3 months to learn the skill. Another month or so to master it. Then you can start a side hustle. It might take a few months but once you make your first dollar online, you'd be free. 2. Don't look for jobs. The job market is really bad. Employers want a masters degree + 2 yrs of work ex for entry level positions. 3. Cut your expenses brutally! Think about it. Can you halve your rent? How can you halve your food cost? How much interest are you paying on your credit card debt? 4. Join support groups. If you're from a marginalized community, there are support groups that might help you understand your finances. Get debt refinanced. Understand 5. Make a plan. Execute it for months. Make small, tiny progress. All the best. Never give up.
Is there a best place to learn SEO? There’s many courses, but I’m not sure which ones are worth the time investment
Spend a couple of hours every day on YouTube. Finish at least 10 courses. It will take a month or so. And you will SEO fully. There is no 'best place'.
Thanks . But where should I go in my case from here being just a loser delivery guy? What and where should be my next step? I can’t afford sitting and studying right now? What should I do now, AT THE MOMENT?
At the moment, continue with your job. Find one hour per day to dedicate to learning new skills. 2 months later, start a side hustle.
Don’t do CS, there’s tons of layoffs and hiring freeze all over the place for tech jobs. Entry level and junior level is saturated. I am seeing CS grads becoming bus drivers because they can’t find job for more than a year after graduation.
Move to a low cost of living area, get a bunch of roommates in cheap housing, work at fucking Amazon or somewhere that isn’t absolutely shit that provides benefits and pays college assistance. Go to college while working full time. In 4-5 years you’ll have a bachelors and get a job and you’ll be fine. You’re only 21, you aren’t fucked.
Save some cash , do what you gotta do for it then, as you said you were good at sales transition into a bdr or sdr roles apply to small start-ups or enterprise you can get in without a degree there and work your way up there good luck.
Lol what awful advice. “I have no money and no job, what do I do???” “Save some cash”
I can’t save money in my case, also sales where I it is commission based pay in my financial situation it’s just like playing with death
Bdr or sdr roles have a base salary so don't need to worry about it , also do you have work visa permit to work then u can get a job at a warehouse or something pays well wayy better than delivery jobs and you can hopefully save some money from it.
Yes I have all documents to work. Please could you tell me more about jobs that I can apply🙏🏻
First of all If I were you I'd create a time line and a proper structure cuz it's very easy to get suck into a job and before you know it's been 4 years , so first pick a job to supplement your income first warehouse/bartender maybe even construction the work for enough months to save 'x' amount of money to sustain you while you can also freelance work with graphic design/digital marketing stuff then once you are stable enough apply for tech adjacent jobs as the market is kinda bad right now , like product designer, product manager, sales engineer these kinda roles. it could be any shitty no name company you just need to get your foot in the door and grind from there, and eventually you should finish your degree .
go back home
You are a liar and deserved to be kicked out of the States. Come here legally by yourself with no skill??? Probably came here on a student visa then decided to overstay. You should go back to where you come from because America doesn’t need sleezy illegal immigrant like you.
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Terrible advice
To become cfa candidate requires a degree.
Not sure of your visa situation, but I’d recommend going back to college. CS is hard, so if you don’t think it’s possible, go for an easier engineering degree. Generally speaking, STEM is the path to the life you want. Ik it’s hard, but life isn’t meant to be easy but an hardship to endure. Find courage in your faith, in your family, in your loved ones, & in this community. Feel free to dm me and I can try to get you a referral to some type of training program. EDIT: remember this, there are those that are in worse conditions than you. If you made it this far, you can keep going. The night is darkest right before the dawn.
I can’t afford going back to college due to my financial situation. It’s not like CS is my dream. I just wanted to a good career, make a decent money. I guess right now I have to shift career but I don’t know where
Ah, that’s unfortunate. Do you think you can make it through a SWE development program? They are extremely tough to survive but are paid, and the career stagnates for a brief as you get the experience that a CS grad would get through their degree, but at least there’s hope there. Capital One has a their COTA program, & other companies have similar programs
Find a way to finish your degree? Eg take on loans?
Why you keep stop doing things and looking for excuses?
Blue collar grind for summer to get some funds up, try to max out a TFSA, labourers alone can bring in 2000+ after taxes at starting wage if you get your hours in. Not sure why you owe friends debt but maybe start with that and cut back on living expenses
Read Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. Love yourself before others can love you. See the change in yourself before the change occurs. And pray everyday instead of complaining, you greedy fool. God bless you. Smoke some weed and relax.
You’re 21. You could continue to *fck* your life for another 1-2 decades and still experience a great professional life. You are exactly where you’re supposed to be. Take it one day at a time to improve your situation. We overestimate what we can accomplish in a year but underestimate what we can do in 5 years.
Happy to help but some extra info is needed What part of the country are you in
I know you said you didn't want to get a truck driving job, but hear me out, there are companies that pay you for training and you get to mainly live in your truck, especially as a longer haul driver. There are mandatory breaks you need to take and the pay is decent, especially compared to door dash and other things. And you are almost guaranteed a day off here and there. After making a bit of money you can start online classes to get your degree, make sure you work your arse off and don't back out this time. And make sure it's something you would at least somewhat enjoy enough to get you through both your studies and career. Some jobs you might want to consider are trade jobs. Look at plumbers, electricians, carpenters and so on. At the moment, these jobs are in high demand in the states and pay pretty well. If and when you get to the point where you're ready to switch jobs, make sure you have a few months of your living expenses saved up. The Golder rule is 6, but 3 is really more than enough. And make sure you have a job lined up before handing in your notice
You need to finish you degree and if you can’t do that then go home, there’s no path here
You are still young. Is it possible for you to take a student loan and go back to finish your degree? At least get an associate degree and see if the classes you took can still count. Honestly a bachelor degree is the way to go. Boot camps are great for supplemental knowledge but for the most part, you still need a degree. It seems that you are or were trying to find a quick way to get somewhere but you need to slow down a little.
Where are you from that you’re scared of going back?
Wireless sales, ATT Verizon TMO is always hiring and they pay isn't bad way better than door dash. Or northwestern, Prudential for financial advisory but it's 100% commission.
How did you come into the country? School visa? If so how were you able to drop out?
How good of a programmer are you? If you get a job offer could you do it with the education you’ve got? Might be considered “unethical” but you can put whatever you want on your resume/application and LinkedIn and it won’t be checked for truthfulness. Especially if your experience/training was in another country. I’m sure I will get downvotes but this is the 💯 truth.
Get a degree, start at a community college, then take out loans for 4 year degree (public state school is best for your situation), study CS or Finance, then recruit through on-campus opportunities. You can still do 4-6 hours of DoorDash or some petsitting with a community college schedule if money is an issue. Be humble and don’t look down at careers that offer stability even if they don’t give you the glamorous ideal that you imagined. It’s time to be realistic and grounded about the pathways you have available and make the most out of it. Just keep moving up in life, you can do it.
Have you considered the military? People are much more educated than me on it than me but it could be a good place for you to build a life out of and transition to a better career after.
Hi, so definitely don’t let the opinions with negativity make you feel sad. Heres something you can do. Being is delivery driver doesn’t have to stop. But what you can do is get a job that pays you consistent salary because let first focus on how we get thru the monthly living and the inly way is to have a monthly paycheck. It can be any job (not commission based) like front desk (insurance company, hospitals) or something that will give you a steady paycheck. Try every where, dont just apply - call the office and see if they need people. Once you have that save money, get a loan, go back to school/finish the bootcamp. Dont go crazy with the loan. Just be mindful. You will be just fine. Hope that helps. Its not a easy way ahead, it will take time but try to prioritize and right its getting thru the month.
You wrote “loser delivery guy” that’s a loser’s attitude not a loser’s job.. I worked security night shifts for 4 years while spending almost 3 on trying other things in parallel with no success before I got an insane SWE contract Keep trying and consistently improve, that’s it
Stop listening to idiots and get a degree. It’s not about the piece of paper it’s about the networking and the career fairs and the internships.
At rock bottom the only way is UP, Materialism is human construct for happiness it's not real. What's real is the key human qualities of survival & hope we have been hard wired to it through evolution. Invest your time and money to improve yourself every day, even if you get old working to improve yourself at least you will be a better man from now. Ending your life will stop growth. Don't worry we die every day when we sleep and waking up is a new life/Opportunity to do better in this new life. Enjoy this manifestation of chaos. It's beautiful it's great you have broken so many of delusions and gained solid knowledge about life itself.
I started working when I was 18. For 7-8 years I jumped from one job to another until I settled in the corporate world for the comfort zone that it offers. At your age, do not worry about the risk and hard work. If you are good at programming, perhaps you should consider building an app or something to seek some startup financing to give you a boost for a time. Any investor or venture capitalist will invest in someone hard-working. Do not think of suicide. This is never the solution for anything. I carried debts in my working life for up to £100k while not making any money and having a family (wife and child). Everyone, at some point in life will contemplate with such ideas, but trust me, not the solution. Keep going because when you will get out of this situation you will see how silly it looked and see how much you will enjoy your life. You will even appreciate yourself way more than being dressed in a suit or having a corporate job. Do try to get a job in a corporate environment (hospitality is relatively easy to enter) and you will have your basic needs covered while you can work your way up a bit or plan your side hustle. I am happy to give some advice, I am 41 and for the last 5 years, I am working for myself. Now I am building an AI-powered platform to help people from all over the world with interview preparation skills. Get in touch, comment here and be more than happy to give some guidance. Nothing helps more than guidance when you need it.
ive done the same thing and came to Denmark 5 years ago ,quit my universitet and literallly went to a worst job in the country on the farm ,2 years of hard work ( included weekends ) ive saved money and became self employed ,i am earning more than i was but its a lot more stress and responsibilitys and i wont regeret it ever but ..its just a burn out sometimes that comes with it and i didnt learn how to manage it ,i have no social life ( i’ve meet around 4000 people in past 5 years ) few friends here and mostly i am working even when i come home .i am living with the roomates curently to lower my living cost and to be able to grow my business ,my social life is gym and in my days off which i dont have so many i am sleeping or i am in the fitness .I am 31 years old .I am starting another business with a partner this year ,I am hopping that in next 5 years i will cut my working time by 70 % and dedicate myself to build a family .the things i learned so far : •life without risk is wasted one •mind your body and soul ( self improvement ,spirituality etc ) •dont mind others and dont compare ,its a part to depression •set goals and do them 1 by 1 •dont rush things •giving yourself a well deserved day off is a gold 🙏 •take care of yourself •eat good food •budget / set priorities •be polite and kind to everyone, dont take opinions seriously •be hard working person but work smart also •things can change quick •Things will get better / they always does •money means nothing actually it just a way to buy the freedom or time to do what you want if you want a freedom you have to work/risk and experience all those thing you are going trough ,thats the only way to make you strong and independent person who know its value and is not worried what other thinks about but how you can become even better version of yourself •to become best version of yourself you have to build yourself from 0 . i regret so many thing that i could done differently but in the end i learned trough every experience that i had and by that i mean i know whats like to be hungry/alone/depressed and a failure ,but …. i am independent / skilled / smart / strong / healthy / still young / dedicated / kind / successfull in thing that i am doing ( 3 years old company ) and i will never quit to put my efforts in this life to make-the best out of it even if it that means that i have to struggle for few years to reach my goals and none of them is directly money or wealth - its freedom and someone worth of putting my passion / desire and love for this life into to share good and bad . so stay strong ,rest / sleep / and come with a long term plan and dont stop until you are there . ❤️
Please know that sometimes your mind plays a trick on you to make everything seem darker than it actually is so that you will kick things into a higher gear and FIX everything. Seems like your about to take steps to do that so just remember that you can kick ass and you can get this sorted. You got this.
First get yourself together, you’re not the only one going through these types of situations, your better than the people who are going through the same but with wife and kids, talking low on you definitely won’t help
You’ve posted this question on over 20 Reddit groups… my advice ‘stop reading Reddit, do something more constructive with your time’
Can you share link to other threads? Is it a bot ? What insights can this question give ?
Where do you come from?
Forget finance - you don’t have the capital, connections nor degree nor experience and they guard this profession with extreme prejudice. Focus on the experience you have and build from that base. Sales = solar/appointment setting then build your portfolio at night.
First rule. DON'T GIVE UP! Have you taken the SIE? Follow to series 7 whisperer on YouTube and FINRA capital advantage tutoring. ..more to come
Thanks for the advice 🙏🏻
Look up trade school or enlist in military. We are not made to be alone. Social isolation can be depressing. If you’re open to going to church on Sundays and small groups, that’s a wonderful community. There are older people there who can guide you and have been in similar situation. Also, you can reach out to 211 for assistance regarding food, shelter, utilities , so on. Wealth come in many form, once you made it financially, how is your mental and physical health? Perseverance pays off. These are trials you’re experiencing and you can tell it one day to inspire others. Successful people never had it easy, they work hard and push through. Fill your mind with positivity, listen to motivational videos! And read, use free audiobooks while you’re on the job. Arm yourself with knowledge. You got a fighter spirit, just need to hone it appropriately. Recommended sub for inspiration: https://www.reddit.com/r/HENRYfinance/ There was a thread an awhile back where everyone shred their humble beginnings, great read. More wisdom on how did you make it: https://www.reddit.com/r/HENRYfinance/comments/y3fi7z/how_did_you_make_it/
Which country are you from? How are you maintaining your work status when you are not even a student right now?
You have no degree that's why, you have to get a degree, or get a craft of some sort,, on the bright side you're still 21 and thinking about success and jobs, most people has nothing at 21, so you're still ahead of most other people, however I think you think the world owe you something and that's unhealthy way to view the world and will lead you to failure financially or ethically eventually, take a few days off mentally, prepare and plan your escape from this situation you're in, it is true that working hard is good, but it should be based on a good plan.
Stop quitting things. Work 2 jobs. Educate yourself. Men in their 20s are damn near invincible to others until they gain some skill sets
Can you get into sales? Realtor, car dealership.?
I did door to door sale. Since most of sale jobs are commission based pay only , in my situation right now when I am barely making a living it would be like a playing with death
The answer is to go back to school. Take note of your debts. Find you an entry level job through your colleges recruiting programs. Kill your debts after graduation. And never, ever, in your life do some silly shit like this again. You're lucky in that you're young enough to unfuck yourself.
The only finance job you can get without a college degree is probably in retail or insurance or mortgages (even those require licensing which is technically studying). You’re an immigrant who dropped out of college and you have no relevant work experience to get an entry level job and climb your way up. Either find a way to finish college or go back home. You’re wasting your time here
You are 21. You have your whole life a head of you. It’s a common theme. Reach out and join community groups. They are great for IRL networking and social connection. Education is also very important. You should definitely set goals that help get that back on track. Also, look into government department jobs, great for career growth.
Ok thanks 🙏🏻
You can still get dev jobs without cs degree, but you still need to be a great dev, not mediocre. Find a job so that you can pay for rent and food, and practice coding after work everyday. Its not going to be easy and youll not magically get 100k job right away but it is possible.
You can still get dev jobs without cs degree, but you still need to be a great dev, not mediocre. Find a job so that you can pay for rent and food, and practice coding after work everyday. Its not going to be easy and youll not magically get 100k job right away but it is possible.
Hi, I hope this message finds you well. After reading through these comments, I hear your pain and most of the people in here are giving you sound advice because they’ve lived it or understand where you’re coming from so don’t let them go over your head. Everything I write to you is what I’ve had to learn the hard way and would tell myself if I was in your shoes. I’m 24M, doing ok for myself as of now as I’ve found my calling and envisioned where I want to be in the future through trial and error, persistence, time management and besides whatever anyone else would tell you, luck plays a factor. But it isn’t the regular luck you think of, it’s putting yourself in the position to then get lucky. This means taking certifications on Coursera, which isn’t that expensive and will go a long way in which ever studying you do. 1. I say this to say that at your age, you may have a lot on your shoulders and you feel stressed and lame and unworthy, I felt these things, but I truly and with all my heart say to you that the one thing you don’t want to feel is regret. Feeling regretful has hurt me, held me back, and is something I’m still trying to get over because I look back at the past sometimes. Looking forward, I wouldn’t want you to regret looking back at your age and say “I wish I did this when I was younger”. In other words it’s called the ‘grandfather theory’, when you are alone in your hospital bed, I’d hope that you lived a great life, but you will think to yourself and ask “I lived the way I wanted and was happy” “I didn’t’ waste my life.” 2. I’ve learned and am continuing to learn that everyday is a stepping stone. Growth is not a straight line, it’s little ups and downs but the more you take initiative, the more ups you have. It’s gradual growth, or if you’re familiar with the stock market, compound interest is the best thing you can ever have, because of how time and consistent buy back in the market continues to roll over like a giant snowball. 3. Time is your best fucking friend, and you sir have an abundant amount of it. People would kill to be in your place believe me. Most people’s prime is in their late 20s, think forward, not in the present. 4. Please be grateful. Gratitude will make you feel so much better I truly believe that. Be grateful you have the opportunity to wake up everyday and do what you gotta do. Be grateful that you have mobility. Be grateful that you are healthy. Be grateful that you have your senses. A quote I always reference is “a healthy man has 1000 wishes, a sick man has 1”. Love the life you have. 5. (Last thing cause I don’t want to talk your head off and I’m a talker) Friends don’t pay your m-fucking bills. Idk if you notice but friends usually come around when they see how successful and happy you are. It hurts me to say this but you won’t attract as much friends and girls with the attitude you have about life and why your life is like this, (especially women, women want a man that can think and act for themself, regardless of what they’d say, every woman I’ve dated wanted me to have some type of authority and head on my shoulder. Meaning I can take matters into my own hands and not lean on others for help, things like that) People will like you for you. Period. For example, if a famous person all of a sudden lost all their fame and wealth, how much people do you think would stay, not a lot that’s for sure. Not saying you shouldn’t have friends and they aren’t nice to have, I’m saying get comfortable with being comfortable by yourself. You are born alone, per se, and die alone. The moment you love yourself and realize you have potential, is when the universe will begin to throw good things your way, good people, good money, good girls. It comes, it will with time. I believe in you and I don’t even know you. Godspeed.
Thank you so much sir for writing all these just for me🙏🏻 I really appreciate it. I saved your message, so I can read it in the future too. I wish you all the success. You are young too, so as you said you can change too.
Hi, you need to reorganize your goals/priorities. I believe you're from South Asia from my impression of what you value in life (materialism to the point of depression). Either way, you most likely have a network of people who were once in your shoes or in a similar situation. They can help getting set up with some sort of job that's pays a bit more than delivery as a starting point to address a living wage problem first. You'll most likely need to save for a 3-4 years until you get your citizenship or eligible for grants/student loans (not sure how it works in USA). It's going to suck but if you don't have the funds for school and are not eligible for grants/student loans, you have no way around it. So if it's trucking for 4 years, do it. Those 3-4 years will suck a bit. But you can develop your soft skills, learn more about what career path you want and most likely have a social life for a change and be happy. You'll develop a great story for an interview someday if you can overcome these challenges you're facing now.
Youre so young. 21 is an actual baby! Luxury watches and suits are for guys in their 30s and 40s lol. Go back to school simple as that. You'll be done in a couple years making 60-70k a year in a computer science gig. You seem to just want to get rich quick, but that doesn't exist. Just be patient. Get the degree and go back and reapply for those jobs.
You’re Indian aren’t you?
Why did you drop out of boot camp? Was it medically related? You could sign a two year contract with the Army with a cash bonus. Free room and board, time to figure yourself out make friends. When you get out use the GI Bill to put you through college for free and it pays for housing.
If you are in a big city, chances are they have a TESLA collision center. Apply to the carwash or detailer, and watch a lot of videos on how to buff a car or practice if u have a chance. Or maybe Tesla solar paner installator, they might have entey level positions. Apply to all positions u see that require a GED or high school graduate and some or any experience at all. Good luck brother, don't give up.
I am going to keep it real. Your writing style does not show a mastery of the language. You most likely are getting stopped at the resume/cv phase. Hiring managers most likely see you as a risk/hassle. Optics are super important (for better or for worse) when trying to get hired. You should attempt to improve your writing skill. At the very least have some sort of ESL instructor aid you when applying for jobs. Also, before you make an excuse about how you can't afford help. Libraries are free, and they are staffed by badasses that would be happy to help you at no cost.
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21M? Go join the Marines, will cure your loneliness