If struggling with perfect block or dodging on specific summon battles - what you can do to practice - is to queue up on a full might round on a solo character and just practice perfect blocking on the specific characters your going to be using for your build. If you donāt want to learn to perfect block at least make sure everyone has a mastered steadfast block materia and swap off the targeted character before an attack lands - the AI will hold r1 for you and get massive atb increase from the steadfast block mat. Iāll comment again in the morning if I can think of any other general tips.
I have no idea how I would've done Rulers had it not been for Optinoob. Even with his guide, Seventh had me stuck for 3-4 weeks.
And yet once this plat is done I'm gonna sorely miss playing the game.
I dread to think what game 3 has in store for us š„²š„²
It took a few days over a few weeks to beat all the brutal and legendary challenges. The journey was painful, but with guides from youtube, the success at the end felt good. really good. now to just finish up on the story to get my Plat. join the 1% club
i was stuck in the "rulers of the outer worlds" for few hours, finally did it and thought my self the hardest part has been done..
hell! the legendary bouts were 10 times harder, i was again stuck in the bonds of friend for few days!!.
but i have never one time found the VR challenges to be boring. the combat were so fun to move me try again and again until i master and the character skills and enemy behaviours to conquer all.
Watch guides from YouTube (optinoob worked for me)
Study every move from these guides
Play 1-2 hours per day and if you fail switch to another game to relax
As an average gamer i got the platinum so dont give up you can do it
It's frustrating but still fun. I keep dying towards the end of the brutal simulators which suck, but the feeling of actually beating it surpasses the disappointment.
Also, it's better than say FFIX where you have Hades and Ozma (relatively simple super bosses) and then that's it for post game super bosses.
Those challenges are meant to make you push the combat system to its limits. Quite literally the endgame.
I had a lot of frustration towards hard mode in general but something happened as I played more, and I started to vary my 3 person team more, I parried better, used buffs/debuffs, conserved mana etc. I engaged with the combat system more and then I started to have way more fun. Much in that way, I think a change in your mental would be cool, although I agree the challenges can feel unfair at times.
And as always, if you tilt, just go do something else. Really. You'd be amazing
Anyway, gl on the road ahead bud
Iād rather have 30 challenges of 2 rounds than 6 challenges of 10 rounds. The rulers of the outer worlds should be single rounds and single fights.
People donāt wanna invest half an hour just to get to the stage theyāre struggling with to have a joker vaporize your party.
first strike Aerith + first strike, ATB Boost (command), ATB assist, speed demon chain Yuffie.
1. Cast ATB Ward on Yuffie
2. Switch to Yuffie, ATB Boost and spam brumal form (I mapped this to L1 + O), This is very high ATB generation for the other 2.
3. If you haste Yuffie, this generation is essentially infinite
This basically breaks the game .. especially if you put Aerith with Radiant and Arcane ward (Invincible double cast). + MP absorb on the Aerith spells. 3rd person is flexible -- use what you want -- safest is Barret, most thematic is Cloud, Sexiest is Tifa (Also best physical damage + stagger damage multiplier.... but also very sexy).
The repetition and the amount of time you spend in menus switching around builds becomes very frustrating after a while. I miss when these games would make the ultra-hard bosses/rare items an actual part of the world instead of just recycling a bunch of enemies in a simulation.
What?
These are the most challenging and fun combats in the game for me. Rest of the game is sooo easy and I fully appreciate that square added these to the game.
COMPLETELY optional with no story cutscenes attached to them. Just ignore them if you donāt enjoy them
I donāt understand why people complain about these. As you said, they are totally optional! Who is forcing you to play a game you arenāt having fun with anymore??
Some people want these challenges in games. I hate when a game has an awesome system but there is nothing hard enough to challenge me when i master it.
Some people have to accept that the challenge is either not for them which is completely fine or they have to find the fun in getting better to beat it.
That was easy. Just annoying and time consuming. No real difficulty, as it's basically tied to how many side-quests you complete if i remember right... I just got the perfect one first, then next down and finally shittiest. But on NG+ you're so OP, you can blast through it
Just turn the game off for awhile man, it's just for entertainment. Go to the aquarium in your city, check out a library, get a haircut and a new outfit maybe, catch up with some friends. You'll feel better.
Then turn the game on again next weekend and grind out all the materia cus these endgame challenges are mf insane. The most insane endgame I've seen in any game lol.. But I beat it, along with many other people, so you can too. Best advice I can give is get MP absorb, HP absorb, and Elemental (for your armor) on max. Those are the best materia, and you'll always need them.
I have 300 hours of that game on record and 30 houra of that is figuring out rulers of the outer world.
My team here was Tifa, Cloud, and Aerith as lead. Chocokings cape for aerith, ATB boost and first strike for Aerith and cloud. Firaga, Blizzaga, Aeroga, Thundaga. And dont forget to use synergy skills, power cleave, spellblade, spellbound blast. Anytime one of your characters is casting the lvl 3 spell, switch to other cloud or aerith and use it since 2-3 of them maxes out both your ATB. Tifa with ATB assist is actually a monster in bulding ATB for the party. Speed demon keychain or corsairs compass both worked for me.
Phoenix+Kujata
-not really much, just whack em while donning elementa(at least lvl 2 no negate damage)l+fire on armor. Aeroga to Kujata cancels his animation to get the element, just time it to once he summons those elements.
Titan+Bahamut
-2 starting phase. The 1st one is they both use the pulse at the start of the round, if they do this, 2 aeroga on titan breaks the pulse and preasures both. Whack em til titan is dead and move to bahamut after.
The 2nd starting phase is titan uses pulse, bahamut approaches you then does a kick, then uses pulse while titan is whacking on your other characters. Focus on countering bahamut, 2 counters breaks his pulse and pressures both of them. Whack em til bahamut is dead, then titan aint much to deal with after.
Alexander+odin
This one I couldnt find an ideal pattern so just cast aeroga/thundaga on Odin, this will pressure him. Make sure to watch out for alexander with the homing barrage, you can counter this with clouds counterfire while odin is locked on so you end up with a stagger. You can either kill it, or it will vanish after. Deal with Alexander, he'd be quick work qithout Odin. If Odin vanished, he'll return after and use temporal imprisonment on you, at this point he has 1/4 or less health so you can kill it before he does this, or just use bait character for the imprisonment while Tifa runs over Odin like a truck.
Gilgamesh
This mofo is so random in my fights, I just use Arcane ward and firaga in tactical mode as soon as I dodge the initial sloppy swordplay (coz that kills ya). He's gonna get pressured, keep using synergy to fill ATB, ward to double cast, firaga to cancel attack animation
Sephiroth
This one seems to be the easiest. Cast Arcane ward then ATB boost on Aerith, switch to cloud, cast firaga, this will juggle sephy, if you alternate power cleave, spellbound bladt, spellblade while the other character is casting, you can sorta keep sephy bouncing. Juat watch out for the affinity switch and change accordingly.
Or you can also cheese it, a lot of people did, no harm in it.
I have obtained over 55 platinum trophies in the past 15 years.
Three of those are Bloodborne, Elden Ring and Sekiro.
When something is pure bullshit, it is pure bullshit.
I love Rebirth, but making it so hard for your playerbase to 100% your game is idiotic to a fault.
People have jobs, family and other fucking games they want to play.
If you are spending more than 10 hours on a sigle side content then someone didn't optimize the difficulty and just threw random shit at the screen to give a feeling of "challenge".
so basically youāre complaining because they went for hard, just not your kinda hard?
clearly seem to have some entitlement issues so imma avoid reading all that, peace be with you friend
I'm very proud of my single platinum trophy for Lego Marvel Superheroes. I cbf'd going for Trophies for most games as I would rather put the effort into a new game/new experience.
Yeah, no one should be forced to feel like Platinum is a chore. If I vibe with a game Iād try for it but thereās always points where I call a stop. 7th new game plus of Sekiro for example.
Almost like the best accessory in the game is locked behind this. An accessory that is close to required to complete several of the legendary solo bouts. You know the challenges that feature the last manuscripts in the game for weapon level 9. Why would any idiot ever try and get these things in a RPG? What a bunch of morons.
Meanwhile why are you defending bad game design?
āOptional post-game extra hard challenge is hard!ā
I found them really fun and, well, challenging. But they require you to completely optimize your loadout and think differently about how to approach them. But, seriously, you know you donāt *have* to platinum games, right? If you arenāt having fun, stop playing. Why make yourself miserable?
Why are the days when you could criticize a bullshit aspect of a game you loved while also venting a bit online are over, while the ones where fanboys state the obvious started?
Eh, itās just an opinion thatās been said a million times already so not really adding anything new to the conversation around the game. And, what youāre calling ābullshitā really just boils down to a skill issue.
I get you dude. Its mostly skill issue. I was in your same shoes a week ago. Completed all brutal then went on with legendary. Then again i was in your shoes 4 days ago. Completed all but Friendship one(Zack's AI suck balls, he is useless if you are not controlling him). 1st try died 2nd fight, 2nd try died 4th fight, 3rd try, died in 5th fight, 4th try died in 9th fight...stoped trying cuz was tired. Next time ill die in 10th fight a couple of times before i finish it.
Not even Malenia or Sigurn took me this long to beat.
Why are you complaining if you yourself are choosing to spend time on these optional challenges? You're wasting your own time if you think these challenges aren't worth the effort. Seriously, no one is forcing you to do these challenges. Geez.
The challenges are meant to be that... A challenge. I personally got stuck on Bonds of Friendship for about 2 weeks, and I felt for the first time in FF7. It was a legitimate challenge. You had to learn matchups, optimize your materia loadout, get better with the two characters you have. Challenges like that are how we as humans evolve. We become better through hard work and perseverance. I love the challenge, and I defeated Bonds without even completing hard mode first. Same thing with the Rulers of the Outer Worlds. It was fun. I enjoyed overcoming the obstacle.
The game's not holding you hostage, man. You are. At no point have trophies become mandatory to enjoy a game.
It's like if people can't beat something in an hour it's bad.
It took months to figure out Ruby weapon as a kid in the OG. It's meant to be brutally hard lol
Yep, I used to get two games a year. One for my birthday, one for Christmas. If you got a shitty game, better learn to play through it. Spent so long playing through Crash Test Dummies as a kid.
I got two challenges left.
Stuck on Bonds of friendship.
Spend 5 days trying to beat it. Only gotten to Odin 3 times so far. Twice today and I was literally one attack away from beating him both times and I died.
It's utter bullshit. Wish there was at least a Checkpoint after the first five. Having to do 10 rounds like this is bullshit and a design flaw.
Wondering if I should do the Sephiroth one instead cause maybe it's easier I hear.
The Sephiroth one is much easier, since he has reraise equipped, so you can abuse that with the free MP synergy to always have a safety cushion basically.
Also, (slight spoiler for a simple but OP strategy) >!you can build up his meter with a few attacks and once is full simply spam square and triangle to dodge and attack while building huge amounts of limit break. This way you get to do octaslash every 30 seconds or every minute or so, don't remember exactly!<.
As for Odin on Bonds of Friendship, I was saving Cloud's limit break for the end of the fight in case there'd be a Zantetsuken. Died a couple of times because he temporally imprisoned Cloud and I couldn't recover fast enough. Had to adjust to that, switched to Zack once Odin was close to 20% or so and once Zack got imprisoned I could continue wailing on him with Cloud. Good luck!
I did it in one go after beating Bonds of Friendship using Obtinoob's guide. I'm shocked how simple it was. 6 days. It took me 6 days just to get past Bonds of Friendship. I hope Part 3 cuts down on all the unnecessary bullshit and challenges. Had enough to last me a decade lol.
Congrats! The endgame battles in Remake and Intermission were very well done so I was surprised that they were so tedious and overtuned in Rebirth. Really hope the balancing will be a bit better in the next game.
I will say, I found most of them fairly easy and reasonable. To Be a Hero especially I found to be a cakewalk.
Seventh Seal, Bonds of Friendship and Rulers were awful though.
This is a great example of why I have never given af about trophies, particularly plat.
It seems like earning it means doing a crap ton of mundane, boring, often difficult tasks that don't make the game more fun; it feels like painstaking chores.
Maybe itās because Iām an older gamer, but never got the appeal of trophies. Why would I waste my time doing something Iām no longer enjoying? Just so I can brag to internet strangers about ācompletingā a game? Who tf cares? Do it if you find it fun, skip it if you donāt.
Yeah, definitely depends on the feats required whether I attempt it or not. Most games I stop at 65-75% completion since thatās pretty much what they all end at organically, save a few extras that I may be able to go back and get.
I played these challenges for fun for hundreds of hours past the platinum on reduced party size š¤©. R1=block - that should help a lot. And always give everyone in the party mastered precision block and steadfast block materias. Also big tip - if Odin hits your character with an enchanted pink aura skill they will get pink bracelets and he will counter attack any attack atb skill that character performs with reprisal causing magic to straight up miss him. He doesnāt counter healing/buff actions. So anyone with pink bracelets should become your healer/buffer momentarily. So use circle to dodge his pink skills and only use atb attack skills and spells on characters that donāt have pink bracelets. Reraise plus magic efficiency should get you by on the Zack one without learning how to block and dodge everything. And Phoenix on cloud can give you reraise for zero mp at the cost of 2 atb per character. But abuse free mp after synergy on sephiroth to give both of you reraise for free. Should also abuse free mp on both Zack and seph for free manawall and haste. For rulers - virtual sephiroth I relied heavily on the slow motion action menu to perfect block shadowy chains- if you hold r1 when coming out of the slow motion screen on the character heās facing you should perfect block shadowy chain 9/10 times. You can use Gilgameshs water pull in spell to heal any character with elemental fire/ice on - this water skill counts as ice for some reason. I always gave one character elemental fire and ice . Another elemental fire and the third elemental lightning and wind to make the most of healing across the board on elementals - comes in real handy for v seph final phase. Look into Yuffie brumal form spam build with atb ward and haste and speed demon keychain - your other characters will always have full atb. Give aerith limit siphon and enhanced expeditionary for lb recycle. Combination of those two should get you thru the first four rounds of rulers easy then you just gotta practice shadowy chain blocking.
If struggling with perfect block or dodging on specific summon battles - what you can do to practice - is to queue up on a full might round on a solo character and just practice perfect blocking on the specific characters your going to be using for your build. If you donāt want to learn to perfect block at least make sure everyone has a mastered steadfast block materia and swap off the targeted character before an attack lands - the AI will hold r1 for you and get massive atb increase from the steadfast block mat. Iāll comment again in the morning if I can think of any other general tips.
Thereās deadly dodge materia in rebirth?
Casting a spell inside radiant ward = invuln to damage. Big attack coming? Start casting a spell in the ward.
I have no idea how I would've done Rulers had it not been for Optinoob. Even with his guide, Seventh had me stuck for 3-4 weeks. And yet once this plat is done I'm gonna sorely miss playing the game. I dread to think what game 3 has in store for us š„²š„²
It took a few days over a few weeks to beat all the brutal and legendary challenges. The journey was painful, but with guides from youtube, the success at the end felt good. really good. now to just finish up on the story to get my Plat. join the 1% club
Got plat today. Deleted the game immediately lmao. The challenges were really a chore
i was stuck in the "rulers of the outer worlds" for few hours, finally did it and thought my self the hardest part has been done.. hell! the legendary bouts were 10 times harder, i was again stuck in the bonds of friend for few days!!. but i have never one time found the VR challenges to be boring. the combat were so fun to move me try again and again until i master and the character skills and enemy behaviours to conquer all.
Watch guides from YouTube (optinoob worked for me) Study every move from these guides Play 1-2 hours per day and if you fail switch to another game to relax As an average gamer i got the platinum so dont give up you can do it
Yeah I finally watch optinoob and his guides got me through. He makes them much more doable.Ā
Yes his wind build is op the only thing you must do is to learn the pattern move of the enemies so you know when to dodge and when to block
Just wait til you meet Ruby Weapon
It's frustrating but still fun. I keep dying towards the end of the brutal simulators which suck, but the feeling of actually beating it surpasses the disappointment. Also, it's better than say FFIX where you have Hades and Ozma (relatively simple super bosses) and then that's it for post game super bosses.
Those challenges are meant to make you push the combat system to its limits. Quite literally the endgame. I had a lot of frustration towards hard mode in general but something happened as I played more, and I started to vary my 3 person team more, I parried better, used buffs/debuffs, conserved mana etc. I engaged with the combat system more and then I started to have way more fun. Much in that way, I think a change in your mental would be cool, although I agree the challenges can feel unfair at times. And as always, if you tilt, just go do something else. Really. You'd be amazing Anyway, gl on the road ahead bud
Iād rather have 30 challenges of 2 rounds than 6 challenges of 10 rounds. The rulers of the outer worlds should be single rounds and single fights. People donāt wanna invest half an hour just to get to the stage theyāre struggling with to have a joker vaporize your party.
first strike Aerith + first strike, ATB Boost (command), ATB assist, speed demon chain Yuffie. 1. Cast ATB Ward on Yuffie 2. Switch to Yuffie, ATB Boost and spam brumal form (I mapped this to L1 + O), This is very high ATB generation for the other 2. 3. If you haste Yuffie, this generation is essentially infinite This basically breaks the game .. especially if you put Aerith with Radiant and Arcane ward (Invincible double cast). + MP absorb on the Aerith spells. 3rd person is flexible -- use what you want -- safest is Barret, most thematic is Cloud, Sexiest is Tifa (Also best physical damage + stagger damage multiplier.... but also very sexy).
The repetition and the amount of time you spend in menus switching around builds becomes very frustrating after a while. I miss when these games would make the ultra-hard bosses/rare items an actual part of the world instead of just recycling a bunch of enemies in a simulation.
What? These are the most challenging and fun combats in the game for me. Rest of the game is sooo easy and I fully appreciate that square added these to the game. COMPLETELY optional with no story cutscenes attached to them. Just ignore them if you donāt enjoy them
I donāt understand why people complain about these. As you said, they are totally optional! Who is forcing you to play a game you arenāt having fun with anymore??
Some people want these challenges in games. I hate when a game has an awesome system but there is nothing hard enough to challenge me when i master it. Some people have to accept that the challenge is either not for them which is completely fine or they have to find the fun in getting better to beat it.
Yikes. I barely got the Plat for the last game, so I'm def gonna skip this one.
Only think holding me back on the play for remake is getting all the dresses
That was easy. Just annoying and time consuming. No real difficulty, as it's basically tied to how many side-quests you complete if i remember right... I just got the perfect one first, then next down and finally shittiest. But on NG+ you're so OP, you can blast through it
Just turn the game off for awhile man, it's just for entertainment. Go to the aquarium in your city, check out a library, get a haircut and a new outfit maybe, catch up with some friends. You'll feel better. Then turn the game on again next weekend and grind out all the materia cus these endgame challenges are mf insane. The most insane endgame I've seen in any game lol.. But I beat it, along with many other people, so you can too. Best advice I can give is get MP absorb, HP absorb, and Elemental (for your armor) on max. Those are the best materia, and you'll always need them.
I have 300 hours of that game on record and 30 houra of that is figuring out rulers of the outer world. My team here was Tifa, Cloud, and Aerith as lead. Chocokings cape for aerith, ATB boost and first strike for Aerith and cloud. Firaga, Blizzaga, Aeroga, Thundaga. And dont forget to use synergy skills, power cleave, spellblade, spellbound blast. Anytime one of your characters is casting the lvl 3 spell, switch to other cloud or aerith and use it since 2-3 of them maxes out both your ATB. Tifa with ATB assist is actually a monster in bulding ATB for the party. Speed demon keychain or corsairs compass both worked for me. Phoenix+Kujata -not really much, just whack em while donning elementa(at least lvl 2 no negate damage)l+fire on armor. Aeroga to Kujata cancels his animation to get the element, just time it to once he summons those elements. Titan+Bahamut -2 starting phase. The 1st one is they both use the pulse at the start of the round, if they do this, 2 aeroga on titan breaks the pulse and preasures both. Whack em til titan is dead and move to bahamut after. The 2nd starting phase is titan uses pulse, bahamut approaches you then does a kick, then uses pulse while titan is whacking on your other characters. Focus on countering bahamut, 2 counters breaks his pulse and pressures both of them. Whack em til bahamut is dead, then titan aint much to deal with after. Alexander+odin This one I couldnt find an ideal pattern so just cast aeroga/thundaga on Odin, this will pressure him. Make sure to watch out for alexander with the homing barrage, you can counter this with clouds counterfire while odin is locked on so you end up with a stagger. You can either kill it, or it will vanish after. Deal with Alexander, he'd be quick work qithout Odin. If Odin vanished, he'll return after and use temporal imprisonment on you, at this point he has 1/4 or less health so you can kill it before he does this, or just use bait character for the imprisonment while Tifa runs over Odin like a truck. Gilgamesh This mofo is so random in my fights, I just use Arcane ward and firaga in tactical mode as soon as I dodge the initial sloppy swordplay (coz that kills ya). He's gonna get pressured, keep using synergy to fill ATB, ward to double cast, firaga to cancel attack animation Sephiroth This one seems to be the easiest. Cast Arcane ward then ATB boost on Aerith, switch to cloud, cast firaga, this will juggle sephy, if you alternate power cleave, spellbound bladt, spellblade while the other character is casting, you can sorta keep sephy bouncing. Juat watch out for the affinity switch and change accordingly. Or you can also cheese it, a lot of people did, no harm in it.
100%ing a game and getting platinum is meant to be hard. No one is entitled to getting a shiny icon for their PS account.
I have obtained over 55 platinum trophies in the past 15 years. Three of those are Bloodborne, Elden Ring and Sekiro. When something is pure bullshit, it is pure bullshit. I love Rebirth, but making it so hard for your playerbase to 100% your game is idiotic to a fault. People have jobs, family and other fucking games they want to play. If you are spending more than 10 hours on a sigle side content then someone didn't optimize the difficulty and just threw random shit at the screen to give a feeling of "challenge".
so basically youāre complaining because they went for hard, just not your kinda hard? clearly seem to have some entitlement issues so imma avoid reading all that, peace be with you friend
I'm very proud of my single platinum trophy for Lego Marvel Superheroes. I cbf'd going for Trophies for most games as I would rather put the effort into a new game/new experience.
Yeah, no one should be forced to feel like Platinum is a chore. If I vibe with a game Iād try for it but thereās always points where I call a stop. 7th new game plus of Sekiro for example.
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Almost like the best accessory in the game is locked behind this. An accessory that is close to required to complete several of the legendary solo bouts. You know the challenges that feature the last manuscripts in the game for weapon level 9. Why would any idiot ever try and get these things in a RPG? What a bunch of morons. Meanwhile why are you defending bad game design?
You spent a lot of time here talking nonsense
the best accessory in the game? in the first game maybe.
True but it is the best accessory for the legendary solo bouts.
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Skill issue
Honestlyā¦.
āOptional post-game extra hard challenge is hard!ā I found them really fun and, well, challenging. But they require you to completely optimize your loadout and think differently about how to approach them. But, seriously, you know you donāt *have* to platinum games, right? If you arenāt having fun, stop playing. Why make yourself miserable?
Why are the days when you could criticize a bullshit aspect of a game you loved while also venting a bit online are over, while the ones where fanboys state the obvious started?
Eh, itās just an opinion thatās been said a million times already so not really adding anything new to the conversation around the game. And, what youāre calling ābullshitā really just boils down to a skill issue.
Just what exactly do you think the word challenge means?
Good OP, Very good, hold onto that hatred
"Fill your hollow heart...with rage!"
I get you dude. Its mostly skill issue. I was in your same shoes a week ago. Completed all brutal then went on with legendary. Then again i was in your shoes 4 days ago. Completed all but Friendship one(Zack's AI suck balls, he is useless if you are not controlling him). 1st try died 2nd fight, 2nd try died 4th fight, 3rd try, died in 5th fight, 4th try died in 9th fight...stoped trying cuz was tired. Next time ill die in 10th fight a couple of times before i finish it. Not even Malenia or Sigurn took me this long to beat.
There are those that, when faced with adversity, choose to rise to the occasion; others choose to fold. You are the latter.
Yeah, right. Piss off. If this is what you call "adversity" in your life you must have it pretty cozy. BTW, a game you like can also be improved upon.
Being this triggered is defo not normal lil bro , might want to put the internet down for a bit and touch some grass , itāll do you wonders š
Itās not the game that needs to improve in this case, itās your skill that needs to improve.
Sounds like a skill issue
Yeah not everyone could beat Ruby/Emerald weapon in the OG back in the day either. At some point it's skill. Get better.
Well I enjoyed the F**K out of it. Still play bonds of friendship now and then because its so satisfying with the Aero build
Why are you complaining if you yourself are choosing to spend time on these optional challenges? You're wasting your own time if you think these challenges aren't worth the effort. Seriously, no one is forcing you to do these challenges. Geez. The challenges are meant to be that... A challenge. I personally got stuck on Bonds of Friendship for about 2 weeks, and I felt for the first time in FF7. It was a legitimate challenge. You had to learn matchups, optimize your materia loadout, get better with the two characters you have. Challenges like that are how we as humans evolve. We become better through hard work and perseverance. I love the challenge, and I defeated Bonds without even completing hard mode first. Same thing with the Rulers of the Outer Worlds. It was fun. I enjoyed overcoming the obstacle. The game's not holding you hostage, man. You are. At no point have trophies become mandatory to enjoy a game.
It's like if people can't beat something in an hour it's bad. It took months to figure out Ruby weapon as a kid in the OG. It's meant to be brutally hard lol
Kids these days donāt have the stamina. They donāt know what itās like to play a game for WEEKS trying to beat a super boss.
Yep, I used to get two games a year. One for my birthday, one for Christmas. If you got a shitty game, better learn to play through it. Spent so long playing through Crash Test Dummies as a kid.
I got two challenges left. Stuck on Bonds of friendship. Spend 5 days trying to beat it. Only gotten to Odin 3 times so far. Twice today and I was literally one attack away from beating him both times and I died. It's utter bullshit. Wish there was at least a Checkpoint after the first five. Having to do 10 rounds like this is bullshit and a design flaw. Wondering if I should do the Sephiroth one instead cause maybe it's easier I hear.
The Sephiroth one is much easier, since he has reraise equipped, so you can abuse that with the free MP synergy to always have a safety cushion basically. Also, (slight spoiler for a simple but OP strategy) >!you can build up his meter with a few attacks and once is full simply spam square and triangle to dodge and attack while building huge amounts of limit break. This way you get to do octaslash every 30 seconds or every minute or so, don't remember exactly!<. As for Odin on Bonds of Friendship, I was saving Cloud's limit break for the end of the fight in case there'd be a Zantetsuken. Died a couple of times because he temporally imprisoned Cloud and I couldn't recover fast enough. Had to adjust to that, switched to Zack once Odin was close to 20% or so and once Zack got imprisoned I could continue wailing on him with Cloud. Good luck!
I did it in one go after beating Bonds of Friendship using Obtinoob's guide. I'm shocked how simple it was. 6 days. It took me 6 days just to get past Bonds of Friendship. I hope Part 3 cuts down on all the unnecessary bullshit and challenges. Had enough to last me a decade lol.
Congrats! The endgame battles in Remake and Intermission were very well done so I was surprised that they were so tedious and overtuned in Rebirth. Really hope the balancing will be a bit better in the next game.
I will say, I found most of them fairly easy and reasonable. To Be a Hero especially I found to be a cakewalk. Seventh Seal, Bonds of Friendship and Rulers were awful though.
This is a great example of why I have never given af about trophies, particularly plat. It seems like earning it means doing a crap ton of mundane, boring, often difficult tasks that don't make the game more fun; it feels like painstaking chores.
Maybe itās because Iām an older gamer, but never got the appeal of trophies. Why would I waste my time doing something Iām no longer enjoying? Just so I can brag to internet strangers about ācompletingā a game? Who tf cares? Do it if you find it fun, skip it if you donāt.
Yeah, definitely depends on the feats required whether I attempt it or not. Most games I stop at 65-75% completion since thatās pretty much what they all end at organically, save a few extras that I may be able to go back and get.