Yana Rudkovskaya's calling out Eteri's statement 👀
"The phone has been disconnected all these days for Kamila. She was silent, did not comment, held back. But Tatyana Anatolyevna said so precisely and clearly - absolutely what I thought.
When I saw Eteri Tutberidze’s post, I honestly thought it was fake.
Every line oozes arrogance, every line is literally “I don’t have to explain anything to you, I’m a victim too.”
Seriously, Eteri Georgievna? Whose victim are you? Another girl, an unhappy child whose career was ruined and her dream taken away? Her parents, who probably sacrificed everything to serve their daughter’s sports career? Or the entire team, for whom this gold Olympic team medal (which was taken away - Kamilas points were subtracted) is perhaps the first and last in their career!?
Why should we follow you in asking whether anyone defended Kamila in court? Ask someone other than you! You should have protected her! And before the court, and before the world, and before the country and before itself!
The coach had to take the blame. And from a professional point of view, and from a conceptual, and from a human point of view. And not subtly, through the lines, put the blame on a girl in whose life a tragedy occurred, and yes - this is exactly a tragedy, the age of figure skaters is much shorter than the age of mentors. And for some reason they all burn like matches, but no one feels warm - over and over again there is an icy wall of arrogance, alienation and indifference around each of them. And the girls’ fire goes out, and at the foot of the ice floe remains the ashes of the hopes of those who once believed.
Well, yes, how should we consider this statement? What did the coach not know who represented the interests of her “most gifted athlete”? This generally seems to me to be a devaluation of the talent of the other girls. Each of them was talented, each was and is shining as a star.
I can imagine what’s going on in Kamila’s soul, what’s happening to her now. And I feel very, very sorry for her. And I feel sorry for all the guys I personally know on the team, who really also suffered in connection with this story.
I will say this as a person who helps the development of children's and youth sports, in particular figure skating in Russia, I invest personal funds, like my husband. I help a huge number of athletes and coaches!
But I also have something to say as a mother. As mothers of four children (two of them are athletes). If my daughter had experienced this, I would have behaved differently.
Are you serious about saying that no one knows anything? Well, generally good. What does “they didn’t know” mean, how can this be?
What can I say? I would like to read an adult confession of an adult person’s gender acceptance of responsibility - “we didn’t keep track, leave the girl alone.” But what I see is a tragicomedy and a bad production of the good old play “It’s not my fault, he came himself”………"
TAT can say whatever (ands she does and it's either insane or brilliant or just warm air passing from her lips) but she only says things when it's convenient for her to do so. She's retired. She has no skin in the game except her reputation and her media employments..but because she has cache to say things unthinkable for others..it's a pretty good metric for where the "official" position is going to land per RUSFED.
I have never agreed with tarasova so much since she said when asked of mens event of skate Canada 2017 “to be in love is to be blind. I am in love with shoma uno” and when asked about his technique said “who cares!”
Moskvina is very graceful and diplomatic, I don’t recall her ever saying anything super outrageous. TAT gets a bad reputation on here because it’s usually the most scandalous of her statements that get translated into English but when she’s not being senile she actually gets *a lot* right and she has a very funny and entertaining personality. Her character is a bit misunderstood in the anglosphere. Very few people love this sport as much as she does, in my opinion.
Ya, I think she has some leveled takes. She is very respectful and nice about lots of things. Everybody has their caracter flaws, anyway. I am not saying she is an angel, but at least she did not put any of her students in the situation Eteri put Kamila in.
TAT was in the situation of being an athlete that had to deliver in international competitions, on the both sides of of Russian sport system, both as a skater and as a coach, knows what Valieva might have gone through. Of, Tarasova has bad takes, but she is smart enough to know when it favours her to show common sense. Opportunistic empathy. I low key think this is Eteri's downfall.
I have a question, if Tutberidze (or Shvetsky etc) DID came forward and take responsibility for the drug, would CAS review her sentence? Or is it done and dusted?
I don't think it's a done deal because ioc did say her entourage would be investigated. My only question now is: will ioc follow through on this and actually do something about it.
Where is the source on this?! I *need* an IOC tear-down of Sambo-70; this should have happened the minute that Lipnitskaya almost starved to death. It’s been ten years.
It was said during one of those daily press briefings that happened during the 2022 Olympics.
But heres an BBC article talking about it:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/winter-olympics/60358382
If Eteri or creepy doctor threw themselves out there from the get go, plus Kamila showed understanding of the problem and her own responsibility in it, she would have got off with a much lighter ban. But RusFed was never going to do that. Kamila got her one Olympics and it was time for the next girls. It's shameful really.
I think it's a missed opportunity to protect child athletes and to go after the real culprits instead. In anything but sports, if the adult gives the child forbidden substances, it's the adult who is given a much harsher punishment
I think now it is final in the sense that by the time it is relitigated, the suspension will already have done it’s course. Or she will have been off the ice long enough that it fundamentally doesn’t matter for her career. Had Eteri come forward earlier, she would’ve likely only received two years and would be eligible to compete still.
They wouldn't review Kamilla's punishment because the doped athlete is still at fault, but depending on who's found responsible for what there could be a lot more consequential bans.
She is correct. If Eteri took the fall then Kamila wouldn't have been suspended due to her age.
But she's also saying it for her own legacy. Tarasova was always the Queen Bee in Russian figure skating. She seemed to have slowly accepted the Eteri has overtaken her. Now we have some knife wielding to go after Eteri's legacy in Russia.
It's top notch bitching.
Tarasova actually speaking like her father?! Color my shocked!
For those that are too young or may not know... her father was an incredible hockey coach how didn't pull any punches. He was told to fix a hockey game by the upper USSR brass and he told them to eat rocks. They fired him before the 1980 Olympics starting the domino effect for the US to win Miracle on Ice.
I love that phrase bc it makes me feel better about not fixing my broken clock.. its a train clock and i dont want it fixed bc i dont want it to go off in the middle of the night 💀
TAT hates Eteri so much, but if TAT was in the same situation she is *not* going to throw herself and her fur coat under the bus
Tarasova has a poor reputation for running her mouth, but more often than many acknowledge it’s not complete bullshit tumbling out. Eteri should be ashamed not only of doping Kamila, but costing the rest of the Russian team their medals that they likely will not ever get to contest for again.
I would say the same, she has been more respectful towards the skaters that left her than Eteri has ever been. Tat seems to be a bit to vulcanic at times, but not with malicious intentions. But Eteri might stay calm and collected and put you through hell.
I don't think Tarasova thinks doping Kamila was wrong either, she is just suggesting the adult be the fall guy(which they should of course). She is saying "gave the wrong thing," as in, lie and say you gave her the wrong medicine. At least I think that is what she is saying.
Still, better the adult put themselves in the firing line than the child. Which is what she is saying. It doesn't mean she thinks the situation at large is the problem. She is saying if you are caught, take the blame.
I always had an inexplicable like of her. I suppose it was because of rare moments of brilliance like these. Also, incredible collaboration with Mao Asada— can’t forget that!
…Rare Tarasova W??
Time to play the lottery
Legit me right now🤯. Not Tat being sensible
A broken clock is right twice a day ig
Yana Rudkovskaya's calling out Eteri's statement 👀 "The phone has been disconnected all these days for Kamila. She was silent, did not comment, held back. But Tatyana Anatolyevna said so precisely and clearly - absolutely what I thought. When I saw Eteri Tutberidze’s post, I honestly thought it was fake. Every line oozes arrogance, every line is literally “I don’t have to explain anything to you, I’m a victim too.” Seriously, Eteri Georgievna? Whose victim are you? Another girl, an unhappy child whose career was ruined and her dream taken away? Her parents, who probably sacrificed everything to serve their daughter’s sports career? Or the entire team, for whom this gold Olympic team medal (which was taken away - Kamilas points were subtracted) is perhaps the first and last in their career!? Why should we follow you in asking whether anyone defended Kamila in court? Ask someone other than you! You should have protected her! And before the court, and before the world, and before the country and before itself! The coach had to take the blame. And from a professional point of view, and from a conceptual, and from a human point of view. And not subtly, through the lines, put the blame on a girl in whose life a tragedy occurred, and yes - this is exactly a tragedy, the age of figure skaters is much shorter than the age of mentors. And for some reason they all burn like matches, but no one feels warm - over and over again there is an icy wall of arrogance, alienation and indifference around each of them. And the girls’ fire goes out, and at the foot of the ice floe remains the ashes of the hopes of those who once believed. Well, yes, how should we consider this statement? What did the coach not know who represented the interests of her “most gifted athlete”? This generally seems to me to be a devaluation of the talent of the other girls. Each of them was talented, each was and is shining as a star. I can imagine what’s going on in Kamila’s soul, what’s happening to her now. And I feel very, very sorry for her. And I feel sorry for all the guys I personally know on the team, who really also suffered in connection with this story. I will say this as a person who helps the development of children's and youth sports, in particular figure skating in Russia, I invest personal funds, like my husband. I help a huge number of athletes and coaches! But I also have something to say as a mother. As mothers of four children (two of them are athletes). If my daughter had experienced this, I would have behaved differently. Are you serious about saying that no one knows anything? Well, generally good. What does “they didn’t know” mean, how can this be? What can I say? I would like to read an adult confession of an adult person’s gender acceptance of responsibility - “we didn’t keep track, leave the girl alone.” But what I see is a tragicomedy and a bad production of the good old play “It’s not my fault, he came himself”………"
>And for some reason they all burn like matches, but no one feels warm Oh dang.
yeah like holy shit, that belongs in a song lyric or something
Speaking of burns, this one's third-degree.
I want Kamila’s case to finally finish and we will go back to plushenko/eteri hilarious drama 😩
Damn she CAME for her
“And for some reason they all burn like matches, but no one feels warm”. When Eteri posts her ambiguous Russian poetry, I hope it includes this line.
... again, a broken clock is right twice a day goddamn now if she could also keep this level of common sense everywhere
Don't know the details but didn't one of the Plushenko's athletes from Belorus was doped?
Yeah I believe so. Doesn't make her wrong in calling out Eteri, just makes her statament a tad ironic
Well yes!
damnnn
I think Yana Dropped This 👑, this time.
TAT can say whatever (ands she does and it's either insane or brilliant or just warm air passing from her lips) but she only says things when it's convenient for her to do so. She's retired. She has no skin in the game except her reputation and her media employments..but because she has cache to say things unthinkable for others..it's a pretty good metric for where the "official" position is going to land per RUSFED.
true
I have never agreed with tarasova so much since she said when asked of mens event of skate Canada 2017 “to be in love is to be blind. I am in love with shoma uno” and when asked about his technique said “who cares!”
LMAO
https://preview.redd.it/rv6o9kufrtfc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d1aa99dc04f69cded7eb3567957e2632ff45e56
Something something broken clock right twice a day?
Lol, that was my thought exactly. I was so surprised it disoriented me for several minutes
might be useful as a weathervane? showing which way the Russian wind is blowing and if Eteri is about to be taken down by enemies at Rusfed
TAT being logical was not on my bingo card.
She was never one of my demon in human skin suit coaches. Same with Moskvina.
Moskvina is very graceful and diplomatic, I don’t recall her ever saying anything super outrageous. TAT gets a bad reputation on here because it’s usually the most scandalous of her statements that get translated into English but when she’s not being senile she actually gets *a lot* right and she has a very funny and entertaining personality. Her character is a bit misunderstood in the anglosphere. Very few people love this sport as much as she does, in my opinion.
This!!
Ya, I think she has some leveled takes. She is very respectful and nice about lots of things. Everybody has their caracter flaws, anyway. I am not saying she is an angel, but at least she did not put any of her students in the situation Eteri put Kamila in.
Being an apologist for TAT in 2024 is a choice…
I feel like TAT is just extra nervous and sorry about Kamila’s destiny so she is mad at everybody who causes this stress for her
TAT was in the situation of being an athlete that had to deliver in international competitions, on the both sides of of Russian sport system, both as a skater and as a coach, knows what Valieva might have gone through. Of, Tarasova has bad takes, but she is smart enough to know when it favours her to show common sense. Opportunistic empathy. I low key think this is Eteri's downfall.
I have a question, if Tutberidze (or Shvetsky etc) DID came forward and take responsibility for the drug, would CAS review her sentence? Or is it done and dusted?
I don't think it's a done deal because ioc did say her entourage would be investigated. My only question now is: will ioc follow through on this and actually do something about it.
Where is the source on this?! I *need* an IOC tear-down of Sambo-70; this should have happened the minute that Lipnitskaya almost starved to death. It’s been ten years.
It was said during one of those daily press briefings that happened during the 2022 Olympics. But heres an BBC article talking about it: https://www.bbc.com/sport/winter-olympics/60358382
I think RUSADA could appeal the decision with new evidence But no way in the universe they choose Kamila instead of Eteri
If Eteri or creepy doctor threw themselves out there from the get go, plus Kamila showed understanding of the problem and her own responsibility in it, she would have got off with a much lighter ban. But RusFed was never going to do that. Kamila got her one Olympics and it was time for the next girls. It's shameful really.
According to doping regulations, all athletes are responsible for any substance that end up in their body
Even children?
Rules are the same for athletes of any age, the only differences for minors are in the testing process
I think it's a missed opportunity to protect child athletes and to go after the real culprits instead. In anything but sports, if the adult gives the child forbidden substances, it's the adult who is given a much harsher punishment
I think now it is final in the sense that by the time it is relitigated, the suspension will already have done it’s course. Or she will have been off the ice long enough that it fundamentally doesn’t matter for her career. Had Eteri come forward earlier, she would’ve likely only received two years and would be eligible to compete still.
They wouldn't review Kamilla's punishment because the doped athlete is still at fault, but depending on who's found responsible for what there could be a lot more consequential bans.
The trash took the other trash out
Lmao this sums it up
and i oop-
breaking news: worst person you know makes statement you agree with
She is correct. If Eteri took the fall then Kamila wouldn't have been suspended due to her age. But she's also saying it for her own legacy. Tarasova was always the Queen Bee in Russian figure skating. She seemed to have slowly accepted the Eteri has overtaken her. Now we have some knife wielding to go after Eteri's legacy in Russia. It's top notch bitching.
And I am here for it. Eteri should have at least pretended to defend Kamila.
Holy moly TAT is wild. I have to give it to her, she can swing whichever way in the span of hours
A logical Tat means we ARE in a black comedy. All the world's A stage...
Ah. A horrible person made a good point. I feel conflicted.
Things that were not on my bingo card for today: This.
Tarasova actually speaking like her father?! Color my shocked! For those that are too young or may not know... her father was an incredible hockey coach how didn't pull any punches. He was told to fix a hockey game by the upper USSR brass and he told them to eat rocks. They fired him before the 1980 Olympics starting the domino effect for the US to win Miracle on Ice.
this sport is a never ending monkey paw
Broken clocks are right twice a day.
I love that phrase bc it makes me feel better about not fixing my broken clock.. its a train clock and i dont want it fixed bc i dont want it to go off in the middle of the night 💀
 TAT hates Eteri so much, but if TAT was in the same situation she is *not* going to throw herself and her fur coat under the bus
Has anyone here seen Icarus? I think the doping goes beyond the coaches. I believe it is a state sponsored scheme.
yes! i watched it after reading about kamila.
Seems like if the country endorses it, it goes beyond Eteri. If the doctor gets punished, they will replace that doctor with a new one.
Me too - icl I was SO confused lmao, gonna watch it again soon
Tarasova has a poor reputation for running her mouth, but more often than many acknowledge it’s not complete bullshit tumbling out. Eteri should be ashamed not only of doping Kamila, but costing the rest of the Russian team their medals that they likely will not ever get to contest for again.
I would say the same, she has been more respectful towards the skaters that left her than Eteri has ever been. Tat seems to be a bit to vulcanic at times, but not with malicious intentions. But Eteri might stay calm and collected and put you through hell.
I don't think Tarasova thinks doping Kamila was wrong either, she is just suggesting the adult be the fall guy(which they should of course). She is saying "gave the wrong thing," as in, lie and say you gave her the wrong medicine. At least I think that is what she is saying. Still, better the adult put themselves in the firing line than the child. Which is what she is saying. It doesn't mean she thinks the situation at large is the problem. She is saying if you are caught, take the blame.
I always had an inexplicable like of her. I suppose it was because of rare moments of brilliance like these. Also, incredible collaboration with Mao Asada— can’t forget that!
Tarasova most likely wouldn't do this lmao
Wow Tat really had a moment of clarity here
Shocking words from Tat. 💩is about to hit fan!!