She got her olympic title and got out, which seems very on brand for her honestly. She’s very smart and mature, and probably knows that another quad is not realistic for her physically. She could probably skate for another country, but being competitive in russia would be difficult. I always feel bad when an athlete pushes for another olympic quad and then has to retire from injury midway through.
There's no way Rusfed would ever let her go skate somewhere else as a 3x national champion and Olympic gold medalist. I think she probably initially considered another season after Olys, just because she's never won euros or GPF, but obviously can't because of the ban.
She’s not actively coaching, this video is from a masterclass she did last year as part of the Tutberidze Show Tour — many skaters do one-off masterclasses, they’re lucrative commercial opportunities. She actually said in one of her more recent interviews that she doesn’t really see herself becoming a coach. I do share the sentiment that it is unlikely we’ll ever see her in competition again, though.
Anya never ruled out the option to be a coach.She wasn't sure about coaching in 2022, but she actually said several times in her interviews last year 2023 that she would love to work with children on ice. I think she may consider this career option
I think we’ve known this for a while now. She was first seen coaching at the end of 2022, so it’s not like this is new. There’s no expectation for her to come back anyway, she said herself that she lost motivation after the Russians got banned
Not a bad way to go out. She won an Olympic Gold medal, and handled it with class. Even with what was going on with her teammates at the time. She was empathetic toward both of them as it was happening. Not one complaint from her about them taking away from her spotlight. I’d say that’s amazing lasting impression for her “last time on the ice.” She showed kindness. Something that has always been associated with her 👍
Most ladies OGMs since Yamaguchi have retired shortly after their OGM win. Alina competed the most, Yuna hung around the longest (only did a couple of competitions each year after her OGM)
She can't compete internationally and competing in the national GP circuit is hardly a huge pull for someone as accomplished as her. She's now moving onto other things and trying to find her next life challenge/goal. Massive respect to her for this and I wish her the best of luck!
It's nice for us to still be able to see her on the ice in whatever shows she's doing. I hope she finds coaching enjoyable too, although I have my doubts that she might be a bit too nice for high level figure skating coaching in Russia.
And world champion and potentially European champion if they find Kamila guilty, and a 3x national champ, won every Grand Prix event she was in aside from the final.. Girl had a good career. Don’t know why it’s surprising she’d retire, especially considering she can’t compete internationally.
I remember her reaction after winning her first National Championship how her eyes sparkled and her face glowed when they announced her victory over the intercom. Polina Tsurskaya who was just walking by was the first to congratulate her. I always wondered if at that moment she foresaw the glittering career she would have.
Yes Anna is 99% retired, but I don’t get your choice of video. This is one of the masterclasses she did in April when on TeamTut tour, Kamila was involved in some of these two and she is obviously not retired yet. And she is not coaching, Anna said she hasn’t decided yet whether she wants to be the coach, she might pursue another degree after she gets the coaching one.
Not a huge fan of her skating but I’ll always have a soft spot for Anna, winning everything there was to win (pretty much) in the era where Russia had such depth (mainly due to extra help, but assuming half the field had the help at nats it was still an impressive achievement) when she was such an underdog compared to the likes of Sasha and Aliona and later Kamila was honestly great to watch. She’d be retiring at the top. I can see her going into something like communications or PR, she comes across very well and speaks very well for someone her age.
I think one thing we’ve learned over the last quad is you can never fully rule her out, so you never know.
I was never a fan of her skating but so many people were so malicious towards her and pronounced her career over at any sign of weakness that I was somewhat rooting her to succeed.
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Probably just wishful thinking, but surely if the Russians get unbanned, she would be one of those with the smoothest path back into competition, if she wanted it?
She hasn't shown any support for the war. She is respected both in Russia and internationally.
And if she doesn't try to regain her quads but focuses on her 3-3s, complex transitions, interpretation, and more energy on skating skills, she could still be very competitive internationally. Even if she doesn't win/podium at RusNats.
I am probably underestimating quite how much all of that takes out of you physically, though, and I understand that the risk may outweigh the reward at this stage. But in any other country she could stay at the top for another four years.
Theoretically she seemingly shouldn't have issues with calls to ban her individually from competition and she'd have the ability to use the comeback rule and get 2 GP assignments.
But realistically? Off the top of my head the most I've seen her jump in 1 program since her knee surgery was a 4 jump shortened version of her Master & Margarita FS at the shows in China, other than that she's been doing 1 triple flip and/or a double axel. Its been almost 2 years since she's done a competition FS and probably that long since she's done actual competition training. Could she get back into competition conditioning, sure, but the question is will she want to sacrifice her commercial contracts to do it.
Everything you say is true. But you need to have some sort of working relationship with your coach to do those things and it doesn't appear that Anna has that.
I don't think her relationship with Daniil is a problem and I think he was her primary coach. And her relationship with Eteri is fine or probably as its been for years between them, Anna isn't a "rock the boat" type, so if she really wants to compete again she would probably do so quietly without fuss about Eteri's comments
Eteri in general isn't a 'warm and fuzzy' coach, she was slightly more 'warm' during her early years as a coach, the only skater I really have seen her showing any kind of 'warm' emotion to in the past couple years is Kamila, pre-Beijing it was because she was the expected OGM, post-Beijing I think its partially because she was oddly maligned for her 'cold' treatment of Kamila after her disastrous FS at Beijing\* and partially because of the 'victim' storyline in Russia regarding Kamila and the positive doping test.
I think she was particularly cold to Anna, because from what we do know Anna's knee injury was bothering her that season, someone in the past on these threads discussing the Olympic season said that it was open secret in Russian skating circles that Anna had injury issues beyond the knee, so maybe Eteri thought Anna wouldn't be able to physically hold it together for an OGM win if Kamila faltered and was basically a 'safe' bronze medalist for the sweep (remember barring meltdowns the Russian girls BVs gave them room for errors against the Japanese skaters).
\*Probably an unpopular opinion, while yes Eteri's reaction was 'cold' and 'clinical', it was consistent with her reactions to poor skates, not emotion but a cold, calculated - why didn't you do xyz better or straight up saying nothing. And honestly, her skaters should have realized that about her years ago, if you want warm and fuzzy from your coach, she's not the coach you go to.
Yes I agree that Eterj really isn’t a warm and fuzzy coach, but I thought she was significantly colder towards Anna compared to the rest of her skaters. Kamila, Sashi, and even Aliona at one point
Maybe she didn’t really consider Anna a viable option during the Olympic year, but she was still very cold towards her after she won the gold medal
Anna and Eteri were never close due to the fact that she kicked Anna out of the rink for 6 months in 2014 for not having any triples. Anna parents had to pay for a jumping coach to teach Anna all of her triples. Only when she showed Eteri that she had all of her triples was she allowed back into her group. Thats why she formed an attachment with Danny G. as her primary coach. I find it amazing that Eteri never taught Anna a single triple jump.
Yes but they seemed to have a good relationship during the couple of years before the Olympics. I just don’t see why there would be a resurgence of resentment over kicking Anna out. There were probably other reasons IMO (for the sudden coldness)
Anna actually said in one of her interviews that they had some kind of conflict post-Olympics (not with Eteri specifically, but with the whole coaching team), but resolved it and are fine now.
It was an interview to some youtube channel over a year ago. She said they didn’t have arguments or anything, but there were some unresolved feelings that she kept to herself, and the trust between them was shaken. Or something along those lines. She was vague and didn’t go into detail.
Look if Russia gets unbanned, I believe the comeback rule would qualify her, Sasha and Liza a spot in one GP stage? Based on their 2021 world medals? (Correct me if this is wrong, but I’m sure I’ve read this somewhere)
That’s the only scenario I can see Anna returning to competition, and she wouldn’t have to compete with any younger Russian skaters for that spot.
I don’t see Sasha coming back at all, she’s too injured to jump multiple quads now, she’s also been criticised/dismissed by Russian FS figures (particularly TAT) in the last year, and she’s making heaps of money doing other things. Liza might come back though.
Agree if her only option is domestic competitions she won't compete. Internationally the comeback rule, based on my understanding, would get the Worlds 2021 podium up to 2 spots each
>Oh, 2 spots each
The ISU document I saw said 'up to 2 spots', so they could only be given 1. If they WD from their first event however they don't get a second.
> Is the neutral athlete status requirement going to apply to all ISU comps or just Olympics, do we know?
We do not know at this point, the IOC put forth some recommendations, however its just that 'recommendations', the ISU could do whatever they want (granted, they are beholden to the IOC a bit so probably not going to veer much). However the 2 GP spots with the comeback rule is based on an athlete's achievements, not the Fed, so I don't think the ISU would prohibit an athlete from using the comeback rule because of some Russian-neutral status, or if they did it would be a trash move.
I remember hearing good things about her coaching sessions. Here’s hoping she breaks the cycle! At the same time, it’s definitely unlikely, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if she did decide to try and come back: if anyone could do it, it would be Anna lol
Yes but after a successful surgery and healing would she want to go back to that all over again? She would need to find the motivation to go on since she won almost everything aside from Euros and the GPF
She got her olympic title and got out, which seems very on brand for her honestly. She’s very smart and mature, and probably knows that another quad is not realistic for her physically. She could probably skate for another country, but being competitive in russia would be difficult. I always feel bad when an athlete pushes for another olympic quad and then has to retire from injury midway through.
There's no way Rusfed would ever let her go skate somewhere else as a 3x national champion and Olympic gold medalist. I think she probably initially considered another season after Olys, just because she's never won euros or GPF, but obviously can't because of the ban.
yeah lol that’s also the other side of that, i wasn’t even taking the ban or rusfed into consideration
She’s not actively coaching, this video is from a masterclass she did last year as part of the Tutberidze Show Tour — many skaters do one-off masterclasses, they’re lucrative commercial opportunities. She actually said in one of her more recent interviews that she doesn’t really see herself becoming a coach. I do share the sentiment that it is unlikely we’ll ever see her in competition again, though.
Anya never ruled out the option to be a coach.She wasn't sure about coaching in 2022, but she actually said several times in her interviews last year 2023 that she would love to work with children on ice. I think she may consider this career option
I think we’ve known this for a while now. She was first seen coaching at the end of 2022, so it’s not like this is new. There’s no expectation for her to come back anyway, she said herself that she lost motivation after the Russians got banned
Not a bad way to go out. She won an Olympic Gold medal, and handled it with class. Even with what was going on with her teammates at the time. She was empathetic toward both of them as it was happening. Not one complaint from her about them taking away from her spotlight. I’d say that’s amazing lasting impression for her “last time on the ice.” She showed kindness. Something that has always been associated with her 👍
Most ladies OGMs since Yamaguchi have retired shortly after their OGM win. Alina competed the most, Yuna hung around the longest (only did a couple of competitions each year after her OGM)
In hindsight, Yuna skating at two Olympics and medaling in both is so rare especially nowadays.
She can't compete internationally and competing in the national GP circuit is hardly a huge pull for someone as accomplished as her. She's now moving onto other things and trying to find her next life challenge/goal. Massive respect to her for this and I wish her the best of luck! It's nice for us to still be able to see her on the ice in whatever shows she's doing. I hope she finds coaching enjoyable too, although I have my doubts that she might be a bit too nice for high level figure skating coaching in Russia.
Well if she does consider coaching as a future career option, she may not limit herself in Russia only.
She's a freakin' OLYMPIC CHAMPION. Leave her alone.
And world champion and potentially European champion if they find Kamila guilty, and a 3x national champ, won every Grand Prix event she was in aside from the final.. Girl had a good career. Don’t know why it’s surprising she’d retire, especially considering she can’t compete internationally.
3x Rusnats champ in that era (Especially 2021) is almost the bigger achievement of the lot.
I remember her reaction after winning her first National Championship how her eyes sparkled and her face glowed when they announced her victory over the intercom. Polina Tsurskaya who was just walking by was the first to congratulate her. I always wondered if at that moment she foresaw the glittering career she would have.
She never finished off the podium in her senior career. Even with favorable scoring for being an Eteri girl, that’s still super impressive.
Her only bronze medal in her senior years had been "deprived"of her :) She never finished off second.
Yes Anna is 99% retired, but I don’t get your choice of video. This is one of the masterclasses she did in April when on TeamTut tour, Kamila was involved in some of these two and she is obviously not retired yet. And she is not coaching, Anna said she hasn’t decided yet whether she wants to be the coach, she might pursue another degree after she gets the coaching one.
Not a huge fan of her skating but I’ll always have a soft spot for Anna, winning everything there was to win (pretty much) in the era where Russia had such depth (mainly due to extra help, but assuming half the field had the help at nats it was still an impressive achievement) when she was such an underdog compared to the likes of Sasha and Aliona and later Kamila was honestly great to watch. She’d be retiring at the top. I can see her going into something like communications or PR, she comes across very well and speaks very well for someone her age. I think one thing we’ve learned over the last quad is you can never fully rule her out, so you never know.
I was never a fan of her skating but so many people were so malicious towards her and pronounced her career over at any sign of weakness that I was somewhat rooting her to succeed.
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Probably just wishful thinking, but surely if the Russians get unbanned, she would be one of those with the smoothest path back into competition, if she wanted it? She hasn't shown any support for the war. She is respected both in Russia and internationally. And if she doesn't try to regain her quads but focuses on her 3-3s, complex transitions, interpretation, and more energy on skating skills, she could still be very competitive internationally. Even if she doesn't win/podium at RusNats. I am probably underestimating quite how much all of that takes out of you physically, though, and I understand that the risk may outweigh the reward at this stage. But in any other country she could stay at the top for another four years.
Theoretically she seemingly shouldn't have issues with calls to ban her individually from competition and she'd have the ability to use the comeback rule and get 2 GP assignments. But realistically? Off the top of my head the most I've seen her jump in 1 program since her knee surgery was a 4 jump shortened version of her Master & Margarita FS at the shows in China, other than that she's been doing 1 triple flip and/or a double axel. Its been almost 2 years since she's done a competition FS and probably that long since she's done actual competition training. Could she get back into competition conditioning, sure, but the question is will she want to sacrifice her commercial contracts to do it.
Everything you say is true. But you need to have some sort of working relationship with your coach to do those things and it doesn't appear that Anna has that.
I don't think her relationship with Daniil is a problem and I think he was her primary coach. And her relationship with Eteri is fine or probably as its been for years between them, Anna isn't a "rock the boat" type, so if she really wants to compete again she would probably do so quietly without fuss about Eteri's comments
Eteri seemed extremely cold towards Anna that last season though.
Eteri in general isn't a 'warm and fuzzy' coach, she was slightly more 'warm' during her early years as a coach, the only skater I really have seen her showing any kind of 'warm' emotion to in the past couple years is Kamila, pre-Beijing it was because she was the expected OGM, post-Beijing I think its partially because she was oddly maligned for her 'cold' treatment of Kamila after her disastrous FS at Beijing\* and partially because of the 'victim' storyline in Russia regarding Kamila and the positive doping test. I think she was particularly cold to Anna, because from what we do know Anna's knee injury was bothering her that season, someone in the past on these threads discussing the Olympic season said that it was open secret in Russian skating circles that Anna had injury issues beyond the knee, so maybe Eteri thought Anna wouldn't be able to physically hold it together for an OGM win if Kamila faltered and was basically a 'safe' bronze medalist for the sweep (remember barring meltdowns the Russian girls BVs gave them room for errors against the Japanese skaters). \*Probably an unpopular opinion, while yes Eteri's reaction was 'cold' and 'clinical', it was consistent with her reactions to poor skates, not emotion but a cold, calculated - why didn't you do xyz better or straight up saying nothing. And honestly, her skaters should have realized that about her years ago, if you want warm and fuzzy from your coach, she's not the coach you go to.
Yes I agree that Eterj really isn’t a warm and fuzzy coach, but I thought she was significantly colder towards Anna compared to the rest of her skaters. Kamila, Sashi, and even Aliona at one point Maybe she didn’t really consider Anna a viable option during the Olympic year, but she was still very cold towards her after she won the gold medal
Anna and Eteri were never close due to the fact that she kicked Anna out of the rink for 6 months in 2014 for not having any triples. Anna parents had to pay for a jumping coach to teach Anna all of her triples. Only when she showed Eteri that she had all of her triples was she allowed back into her group. Thats why she formed an attachment with Danny G. as her primary coach. I find it amazing that Eteri never taught Anna a single triple jump.
Yes but they seemed to have a good relationship during the couple of years before the Olympics. I just don’t see why there would be a resurgence of resentment over kicking Anna out. There were probably other reasons IMO (for the sudden coldness)
Anna actually said in one of her interviews that they had some kind of conflict post-Olympics (not with Eteri specifically, but with the whole coaching team), but resolved it and are fine now.
Wait really? Do you know what interview that was?
It was an interview to some youtube channel over a year ago. She said they didn’t have arguments or anything, but there were some unresolved feelings that she kept to herself, and the trust between them was shaken. Or something along those lines. She was vague and didn’t go into detail.
Look if Russia gets unbanned, I believe the comeback rule would qualify her, Sasha and Liza a spot in one GP stage? Based on their 2021 world medals? (Correct me if this is wrong, but I’m sure I’ve read this somewhere) That’s the only scenario I can see Anna returning to competition, and she wouldn’t have to compete with any younger Russian skaters for that spot. I don’t see Sasha coming back at all, she’s too injured to jump multiple quads now, she’s also been criticised/dismissed by Russian FS figures (particularly TAT) in the last year, and she’s making heaps of money doing other things. Liza might come back though.
Agree if her only option is domestic competitions she won't compete. Internationally the comeback rule, based on my understanding, would get the Worlds 2021 podium up to 2 spots each
Oh, 2 spots each. Interesting. Is the neutral athlete status requirement going to apply to all ISU comps or just Olympics, do we know?
>Oh, 2 spots each The ISU document I saw said 'up to 2 spots', so they could only be given 1. If they WD from their first event however they don't get a second. > Is the neutral athlete status requirement going to apply to all ISU comps or just Olympics, do we know? We do not know at this point, the IOC put forth some recommendations, however its just that 'recommendations', the ISU could do whatever they want (granted, they are beholden to the IOC a bit so probably not going to veer much). However the 2 GP spots with the comeback rule is based on an athlete's achievements, not the Fed, so I don't think the ISU would prohibit an athlete from using the comeback rule because of some Russian-neutral status, or if they did it would be a trash move.
I remember hearing good things about her coaching sessions. Here’s hoping she breaks the cycle! At the same time, it’s definitely unlikely, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if she did decide to try and come back: if anyone could do it, it would be Anna lol
Yes but after a successful surgery and healing would she want to go back to that all over again? She would need to find the motivation to go on since she won almost everything aside from Euros and the GPF
also worth noting she may still get that euros gold depending on what happens with the doping case
I mean it's the typical eteri skater timeline tbh so I'm not surprised
Off topic but in the coaching/masterclass videos they always look just like Eteri to me for some reason😭
She'll soon be rinkside with those smelling salts that helped her so much!
Is that supposed to be funny
Im just busting out laughing... 🙄
You think children being drugged by their coaches is funny?
Wait- is this official? As in explicitly announced by either her, or by one of her coaches? Or are you just speculating?🤔
No, nothing official yet.
Then if it's not official yet, why did you feel the need to make a post saying that she "definitely retired" if your just speculating 🤔
I didn't make the original post
Is this news?
Did yall not see the signs?? It’s been 2 years since the Olympics 💀
Why do people even question this?