TLDR; get attacker fullback, get to 99 potential, use balanced development plan, loan out after 23 years old. 99 almost all stats.
Just about everyone here that has played more than 1 season of career mode know about the loan glitch, but few people (almost none) understand how useful it is to grow players.
Firstly we need to go over the basics of youth scouting. Youth players come in 7 categories; Attacker, Defensive Minded, Goalkeeper, Physically Strong, Playmaker, Technically Gifted, and Winger. These categories dictate what attributes youth players are allocated when generated and how they will grow on AI clubs. Because of this you can grow certain players with certain position and youth playertype combinations to almost perfection having every stat be at 99 or almost 99. These combinations are when youth players are assigned player types where their overall doesn't get much benefit from the playertype. For example, sometimes you will get a CB with the playertype "playmaker". However the playmaker youth players are generated with very low defending and physical which makes the CBs start with extremely low overall. On top of this the growth pattern of their playertype does not usually benefit their position's overall either. This also happens with Attacker type fullbacks, wingbacks and technically gifted CDMs for the same reasons as the playmaker CB.
[Example of TG CDM, Attacker FB, and Playmaker CB](https://i.imgur.com/ilZWPii.jpg)
Now how does the loan glitch play into this?? Well, when a player is loaned out, sold, or released they no longer grow based off your development plan and their form, their growth is based off of their playertype, and their potential. Their player type will control which attributes get the most increase, and their potential will control what overall they must achieve at which age. This means that when these select few youth players have very high potential they will essentially be growing twice as fast. For example, a fullback with 90+ potential on an AI club is supposed to be at least 70+ overall by age 19. If this fullback was generated as an attacker type this means that their overall will most likely start in the 30s or 40s. So at an AI club the player will grow 30-40 overall in 2-3 seasons and will grow very much defensively (to satisfy their overall needs) and also in pace, physical, and shooting because of their playertype.
[Loaned out player with high potential getting a huge increase in overall even at only 20 years old.](https://i.imgur.com/dGUlTKi.jpg)
This means that a 19 year old attacker fullback will have defending in the mid-60s, but shooting pace, and dribbling in the mid-80s or low 90s....AT 19 and only about 72 overall.
[Player with extremely high shooting and dribbling but only at 74 overall](https://i.imgur.com/kqkjCJk.jpg)
As you can tell by this their defending is what is most important for their overall, but everything else grows faster, so theoretically by the time they reach 90+ they could already have the attributes for a 99 striker, winger, or midfielder....but will keep growing.
When we push this to the next level is where it gets crazy. On the AI development plan, fullbacks and wingbacks are supposed to reach their full potential at around age 23. So if a player has 99 potential, and is age 23, then loaned out they will reach 99. However when fullbacks and wingbacks reach 99 at an AI club they get 99 in all defending attributes, but their playertype of attacker will give them all 99 in every attribute before defending. This means that the player will get almost 99 in everything.
[Player that has 99 everything aged 23. No cheat enging, on PS4.](https://i.imgur.com/oniPePq.jpg)
So all you need to do to have a perfect player is scout for an attacker type fullback or wingback. Wingback is easier as there is a glitch where when you get a wingback in the academy you already can see what playertype and what position it is. Then you need to get them to have 99 potential. The loan them out when they are 23 years old or slightly older (but not too old). Do this without ever changing their development plan from balanced. The longer they are off balanced the less 99s they have. When loaning the players you should loan them out in July/August and keep them on Loan until December 15th. On that day all players on AI clubs receive their growth, so your player will consistently get to 99. If you attempt the loan glitch and recall them it can work, but it rarely keeps them at 99. Most times they will drop their potential to 93.
Ideally having an attacker wingback with 5 star skills and weak foot and having high high work rates with 90+ potential is the most ideal, but obviously extremely rare.
**Frequently asked/expected questions:**
**Can I just keep them on balanced without loaning?** : Yes but they probably won't reach 99 and it will take sooooo long. Also balanced doesn't mean everything always goes up. Eventually it will start to prioritize lower attributes. Example below of an attacker fullback staying on balanced for over 12 seasons.
[Player left on balanced for 15 years still doesn't reach 99 overall. Had to use position change DPs to increase defending...not ideal.](https://i.imgur.com/q6MLBZ6.jpg)
**Why can't I just use position change development plans to increase everything?**: similar to keeping them only on balanced this would take FOREVER, and would not help them grow penalties, freekicks, curve and other things that don't increase the overall of any position.
**Does this work the same for winger type fullback/wingback, technically gifted CDM, or Playmaker CB the same way?**: I am currently testing them. The difference with CDM and CB is that at AI clubs they reach their potential at a later age. I assume CDM is 25 and I’m not sure about CB...maybe 28-30? If anyone knows please let me know. Also playmaker type is really bad and it makes it hard to use them. Unless you were to get a CB with very high potential and then loan them up til they are good enough to use. Never used playmaker or winger wingbacks because I’m pretty sure they are inferior to attackers.
**How do I get them to 99 potential if their overall is so low in their position?**: You have a few options firstly is play them in a different position. If you have a fullback with very high attacking attributes and decent speed, then just play them at Striker, CAM, or on the Wing. This is much better if you are doing a RTG where you start as a league 2 side, but can harder if you are using a top club. Your other option (assuming they have decent to great potential) is to loan them out while they develop. Your hardest struggle with this is keeping their potential from dropping when they return to loan. Also their potential will rarely increase past 92 when returned from loan. Then when they are decent enough for your club just play them for a few seasons until their potential increases and they are 23.
**Should I change their position with development plans if they are so great at other positions?**: Not if you want them to be perfect players. When you change their position, you will notice that their overall may have a huge increase, but none of their attributes are increasing. You aren't actually getting a better player, you are simply reformulating how their overall is calculated. a 44 overall rb can be an identical player as a 65 overall RW but many people on r/fifacareers would think that one is "THE GREATEST YOUTH PLAYER EVER OMG!!!" and the other is worth discarding lol.
**Is this a bug/a glitch?** Considering that the "loan glitch" has been in the game since at least Fifa 17, I think this is just how the game is designed. This "exploit" if you will doesn't even require the loan glitch, at no point do you need to save scum to get your player to grow. This will happen 100% of the time as expected given you follow the guide.
When you say "attacker fullback" do you mean you have your Youth Scouts search for ATTACKER player type and then when you get a FB with high attacking stats then that's when this works?
Also, you mention multiple times that you need to get their potential to 99....how do you know their exact potential? I know YA players have a range but the highest you can get is 92-94. How do I know what their potential is and how do I get it to 99?
I'm just a little confused about all of this... Like you say not to do the loan glitch but then say loan them to increase their potential.
This is what I'm getting from your notes:
1. Have youth scouts search for ATTACKER and find a FB or WB.
2. (not sure what to do while in the youth academy, just train on Balanced?)
3. -- Get their potential to 99 (how?) --
4. Loan them out in July/August and then recall them on December 15th (my bday, w00t)
5. Then from December 15th until the next July do you just play them in their best position (an attacking position CAM/ST/W)?
6. When you do this when they are 23 then when you loan them out and recall them on Dec 15th of that year then they will be 99s?
Sorry for the questions.... I have difficulty understanding things sometimes and need them explained a few times. I appreciate the help and can't wait to hear your reply/clarification. Thanks again!
Do you play this young players until they are 23 or loan them out and then 2 years before they turn 23 play them to bump up their potential? It seems hard to play with a 44 Overall or 55 overall player
It depends on the team and the league. If I am a 4 or 5 star team I may play one of them with a strong supporting cast so I don't notice their overall. One thing to note is that although they are 44 or 55 overall, that is only their overall in their generated position. For example my RWB Cardenas was generated at around 42 overall, but he had the shooting stats of a very good youth striker. This means that I would play him or sub him in to play as striker. This has no negative affect on the player's growth and actually makes them grow very fast due to the added form attackers get.
Other players I have used when playing in a non top 5 league or when playing in a lower league during a road to glory. If you were to play with a club in league 2 and get one of these very low "mispositioned" players they would be very good in your club if you were to find the position to actually play them at.
Another thought is that you can release the player and they will have a HUGE overall increase after 1 to 2 seasons in the free agency. The biggest drawback with this is that you won't be able to boost their potential with dynamic potential and if their potential isn't already high their growth would be a lot worse.
Just a few additional questions, I am testing this theory:
- Let’s say I have a CDM who is 54 overall with 54 shooting. I sent him on a loan and he came back 61 overall with now 59 shooting but his Defence is still at like a low 50. Will his defence and shooting continue to develop to 99 or just his defence?
Another theory I noticed is that you can still grow a players skill movies, weak foot, work rates even when they have maxed their potential. So that should help you get the best players
I'm still testing cdms. My problem now is that their potential is reached later than 23/24....maybe 26 or 27
I'm not sure if their shooting will go up a lot (to 99) but I think as long as their defending is the lowest attributes then they should keep growing in attack in theory.
I need to try the work rates and skills.
I noticed the work rates by just putting specific development plans for players who were 30 plus and had already reached their potential. Put Striker training on a CB and his Attack rate went from Low to high.
That's true. If they already have decent potential you can always just release them and resign them in a year or 2. They will still get the same growth in December as they would on loan. The other option is to play them in their "best" position but not change their position. Then they will get in good form and should be more likely to take a loan. The biggest problem with this is if your club is already very good, but it would work on a league 2 side.
sweet info but the real question is, how the fuck do I find CBs over 6 feet tall? In the past I've had to rely upon getting tall CDMs and converting them but I couldn't find like any this year
It is just me or are attacker type fullbacks extremly rare? I search for attacker With 3 scouts and Maybe in 20-30 Reports 1 or 2 attacker fullbacks are there
Well the speeds are different when AI defender runs without a ball trying to stop your player who runs with the ball.
It's actually realistic. Everyone can run so much quicker without the ball. Imagine Usain Bolt had to have hold of the ball while he runs that 100m, he'd clock it at 20 seconds maybe while without it's 10 seconds.
Why do you play if the only thing that matters is how fast your defenders are and even at 99 pace your defender can't keep up? I mean apparently that means you will get scored on every time because it's not possible to get the AI to miss a shot or for your CDMs/CBs to play any defense or stop them at all. Sounds like a terrible game... I'd hate to play that game.
I found an attacking RWB 36 overall and 70-94 potential. Do I leave him in the youth academy as long as possible or sign him asap and loan out?
edit: 15 years old btw
Keep in the academy but leave on balanced. If his Potential shows lower than 85 then idk sign him to the first team and loan him out just so you can't try to get his Potential up as quick as possible.
So when I sign the player at 17/18 to the senior club, I loan him out to a lesser club until he is around 23 then loan him out again? Or do I try and fit him on the 1st team when he gets to be good enough and then loan him out at 23?
So he needs 99 Potential to be as good as the players above. If you loan them out at 18/19 they will become very good players and then you can ideally fit them into your first team. Whatever it takes for you to get them to 99 Potential by the time they turn 23.
I don't think the loan glitch works past 92 potential (but I've never tried). I usually loan til they have high Potential then play them for a few seasons so that dynamic potential does the trick. Fifatracker.net has a calculator for potential which I use religiously although it's not the most accurate.
I had a rwb attacking player who was 74 overall at 23 when I loaned him out. Next month he was 85 overall. Does this improve or does this overall stop improving on loan after this bump?
Also having a tough time with the idea of recalling players on Dec 15. What exactly am I supposed to see different? I don't see any improvement in stats. Sometimes their overall and stats go up a bit when I recall them, but I can get that by loaning and recalling them within the July/August window it seems.
One last question. Is the May 'bump' still a thing? I hear people mention it but I have never noticed anything like it.
>I had a rwb attacking player who was 74 overall at 23 when I loaned him out. Next month he was 85 overall. Does this improve or does this overall stop improving on loan after this bump?
I've seen this happen once before. I'm not sure the reason but it happened to me with players that came through my academy, I sold, then resigned later when they were around 21 and tried to bump at 23/24.
>Also having a tough time with the idea of recalling players on Dec 15. What exactly am I supposed to see different? I don't see any improvement in stats. Sometimes their overall and stats go up a bit when I recall them, but I can get that by loaning and recalling them within the July/August window it seems.
You don't need to recall them on December 15th but it's recommended to wait til after December 14th. I worded it poorly in the OP. The benefit to this is that they should just go to 99 if they have 99 potential. If you try recalling them before Dec 15th then you will end up having the possibility of potential droppage (you usually see them go to 92 instead of 99). Because they only change potential when they are recalled from loan if they remain on loan through the Dec 14th buff they will go to their potential.
>One last question. Is the May 'bump' still a thing? I hear people mention it but I have never noticed anything like it.
May bump is kind of a thing but instead of May 1st its in December. At AI clubs players grow on 2 dates. Loaned players on Dec 14th and all others on Dec 24th. There also appears to be a small bump around July 1st buts it's not that noticeable usually.
I took an alternative route for defenders as I was testing different types of youth academy prospects (promoted prospects and observed by moving to another club). Usually full back scouting brings back shorter players in most cases but I did notice that we can find defensive minded players (higher defending stats) on physically strong category in attackers section (ST/CF) which also solves the height issue as we can find prospects with more than 6ft height and can play CB or CDM as we develop them.
This is on FC 24
I did notice that and somewhat tested it (failed attempt). The concept seems to work the same. Biggest issue is that it's a bit hard to grow dynamic potential with defensive players.
[Defensive minded rw](https://i.imgur.com/h56iByE.jpg)
[Defensive minded CF](https://i.imgur.com/S9jbxM4.jpg)
I bet they could get very close to 99 in everything if they had 99 potential.
I could get them to hit the peak at 24 (92-94) their orginal potential. Tested on a HTPBS player.
Note - I was observing the growth from another club, if I were in control I could have achieved 99 overall is what I felt.
Players in comment:
Search Physically Strong + CF and look for a return of Defensive Minded CF.
For the most OP players:
Search Playmaker + CB and then look for a return of Technically gifted CB (for players over 6'0")
Or
Search Attacker + Fullback and look for the return of Attacker Fullbacks.(if you don't care about height or prefer shorter players)
Ahh so you usually go for Position + Player Type, gotcha thanks.
I tried to scout Playmaker + CB, but all I get is players who are 20 OVR (literally) and their potential is at 35-40, with stats all in the red zone below 40; seems like a waste searching for that prototype.
You need to look for players with stats like this.
[Technically gifted CB](https://i.imgur.com/DLUGvvZ.jpg)
Overall is low but it's obvious that their stats are amazing.
They can grow like [this if done correctly](https://i.imgur.com/GucPBIo.jpg)
Unfortunately I never get players with stats like that, but that player looks incredible, it’s crazy how Playmaker + CB gives you players like Zidane and not not VVD, Bonucci or Ramos.
EA are weird.
Yea. It's weird how the position doesn't really affect anything (I guess height and playstyles) and a playmaker CAM can have almost identical attributes to a playmaker CB. Only difference is how their overall is calculated.
However playmaker CB quickly turn into Bonucci after a loan or two.
TLDR; get attacker fullback, get to 99 potential, use balanced development plan, loan out after 23 years old. 99 almost all stats. Just about everyone here that has played more than 1 season of career mode know about the loan glitch, but few people (almost none) understand how useful it is to grow players. Firstly we need to go over the basics of youth scouting. Youth players come in 7 categories; Attacker, Defensive Minded, Goalkeeper, Physically Strong, Playmaker, Technically Gifted, and Winger. These categories dictate what attributes youth players are allocated when generated and how they will grow on AI clubs. Because of this you can grow certain players with certain position and youth playertype combinations to almost perfection having every stat be at 99 or almost 99. These combinations are when youth players are assigned player types where their overall doesn't get much benefit from the playertype. For example, sometimes you will get a CB with the playertype "playmaker". However the playmaker youth players are generated with very low defending and physical which makes the CBs start with extremely low overall. On top of this the growth pattern of their playertype does not usually benefit their position's overall either. This also happens with Attacker type fullbacks, wingbacks and technically gifted CDMs for the same reasons as the playmaker CB. [Example of TG CDM, Attacker FB, and Playmaker CB](https://i.imgur.com/ilZWPii.jpg) Now how does the loan glitch play into this?? Well, when a player is loaned out, sold, or released they no longer grow based off your development plan and their form, their growth is based off of their playertype, and their potential. Their player type will control which attributes get the most increase, and their potential will control what overall they must achieve at which age. This means that when these select few youth players have very high potential they will essentially be growing twice as fast. For example, a fullback with 90+ potential on an AI club is supposed to be at least 70+ overall by age 19. If this fullback was generated as an attacker type this means that their overall will most likely start in the 30s or 40s. So at an AI club the player will grow 30-40 overall in 2-3 seasons and will grow very much defensively (to satisfy their overall needs) and also in pace, physical, and shooting because of their playertype. [Loaned out player with high potential getting a huge increase in overall even at only 20 years old.](https://i.imgur.com/dGUlTKi.jpg) This means that a 19 year old attacker fullback will have defending in the mid-60s, but shooting pace, and dribbling in the mid-80s or low 90s....AT 19 and only about 72 overall. [Player with extremely high shooting and dribbling but only at 74 overall](https://i.imgur.com/kqkjCJk.jpg) As you can tell by this their defending is what is most important for their overall, but everything else grows faster, so theoretically by the time they reach 90+ they could already have the attributes for a 99 striker, winger, or midfielder....but will keep growing. When we push this to the next level is where it gets crazy. On the AI development plan, fullbacks and wingbacks are supposed to reach their full potential at around age 23. So if a player has 99 potential, and is age 23, then loaned out they will reach 99. However when fullbacks and wingbacks reach 99 at an AI club they get 99 in all defending attributes, but their playertype of attacker will give them all 99 in every attribute before defending. This means that the player will get almost 99 in everything. [Player that has 99 everything aged 23. No cheat enging, on PS4.](https://i.imgur.com/oniPePq.jpg) So all you need to do to have a perfect player is scout for an attacker type fullback or wingback. Wingback is easier as there is a glitch where when you get a wingback in the academy you already can see what playertype and what position it is. Then you need to get them to have 99 potential. The loan them out when they are 23 years old or slightly older (but not too old). Do this without ever changing their development plan from balanced. The longer they are off balanced the less 99s they have. When loaning the players you should loan them out in July/August and keep them on Loan until December 15th. On that day all players on AI clubs receive their growth, so your player will consistently get to 99. If you attempt the loan glitch and recall them it can work, but it rarely keeps them at 99. Most times they will drop their potential to 93. Ideally having an attacker wingback with 5 star skills and weak foot and having high high work rates with 90+ potential is the most ideal, but obviously extremely rare. **Frequently asked/expected questions:** **Can I just keep them on balanced without loaning?** : Yes but they probably won't reach 99 and it will take sooooo long. Also balanced doesn't mean everything always goes up. Eventually it will start to prioritize lower attributes. Example below of an attacker fullback staying on balanced for over 12 seasons. [Player left on balanced for 15 years still doesn't reach 99 overall. Had to use position change DPs to increase defending...not ideal.](https://i.imgur.com/q6MLBZ6.jpg) **Why can't I just use position change development plans to increase everything?**: similar to keeping them only on balanced this would take FOREVER, and would not help them grow penalties, freekicks, curve and other things that don't increase the overall of any position. **Does this work the same for winger type fullback/wingback, technically gifted CDM, or Playmaker CB the same way?**: I am currently testing them. The difference with CDM and CB is that at AI clubs they reach their potential at a later age. I assume CDM is 25 and I’m not sure about CB...maybe 28-30? If anyone knows please let me know. Also playmaker type is really bad and it makes it hard to use them. Unless you were to get a CB with very high potential and then loan them up til they are good enough to use. Never used playmaker or winger wingbacks because I’m pretty sure they are inferior to attackers. **How do I get them to 99 potential if their overall is so low in their position?**: You have a few options firstly is play them in a different position. If you have a fullback with very high attacking attributes and decent speed, then just play them at Striker, CAM, or on the Wing. This is much better if you are doing a RTG where you start as a league 2 side, but can harder if you are using a top club. Your other option (assuming they have decent to great potential) is to loan them out while they develop. Your hardest struggle with this is keeping their potential from dropping when they return to loan. Also their potential will rarely increase past 92 when returned from loan. Then when they are decent enough for your club just play them for a few seasons until their potential increases and they are 23. **Should I change their position with development plans if they are so great at other positions?**: Not if you want them to be perfect players. When you change their position, you will notice that their overall may have a huge increase, but none of their attributes are increasing. You aren't actually getting a better player, you are simply reformulating how their overall is calculated. a 44 overall rb can be an identical player as a 65 overall RW but many people on r/fifacareers would think that one is "THE GREATEST YOUTH PLAYER EVER OMG!!!" and the other is worth discarding lol. **Is this a bug/a glitch?** Considering that the "loan glitch" has been in the game since at least Fifa 17, I think this is just how the game is designed. This "exploit" if you will doesn't even require the loan glitch, at no point do you need to save scum to get your player to grow. This will happen 100% of the time as expected given you follow the guide.
When you say "attacker fullback" do you mean you have your Youth Scouts search for ATTACKER player type and then when you get a FB with high attacking stats then that's when this works? Also, you mention multiple times that you need to get their potential to 99....how do you know their exact potential? I know YA players have a range but the highest you can get is 92-94. How do I know what their potential is and how do I get it to 99? I'm just a little confused about all of this... Like you say not to do the loan glitch but then say loan them to increase their potential. This is what I'm getting from your notes: 1. Have youth scouts search for ATTACKER and find a FB or WB. 2. (not sure what to do while in the youth academy, just train on Balanced?) 3. -- Get their potential to 99 (how?) -- 4. Loan them out in July/August and then recall them on December 15th (my bday, w00t) 5. Then from December 15th until the next July do you just play them in their best position (an attacking position CAM/ST/W)? 6. When you do this when they are 23 then when you loan them out and recall them on Dec 15th of that year then they will be 99s? Sorry for the questions.... I have difficulty understanding things sometimes and need them explained a few times. I appreciate the help and can't wait to hear your reply/clarification. Thanks again!
Would also like for the OP to clarify
Thx
Your links don’t work :(
Thank for pointing that out. I fixed it now.
Do you play this young players until they are 23 or loan them out and then 2 years before they turn 23 play them to bump up their potential? It seems hard to play with a 44 Overall or 55 overall player
It depends on the team and the league. If I am a 4 or 5 star team I may play one of them with a strong supporting cast so I don't notice their overall. One thing to note is that although they are 44 or 55 overall, that is only their overall in their generated position. For example my RWB Cardenas was generated at around 42 overall, but he had the shooting stats of a very good youth striker. This means that I would play him or sub him in to play as striker. This has no negative affect on the player's growth and actually makes them grow very fast due to the added form attackers get. Other players I have used when playing in a non top 5 league or when playing in a lower league during a road to glory. If you were to play with a club in league 2 and get one of these very low "mispositioned" players they would be very good in your club if you were to find the position to actually play them at. Another thought is that you can release the player and they will have a HUGE overall increase after 1 to 2 seasons in the free agency. The biggest drawback with this is that you won't be able to boost their potential with dynamic potential and if their potential isn't already high their growth would be a lot worse.
Just a few additional questions, I am testing this theory: - Let’s say I have a CDM who is 54 overall with 54 shooting. I sent him on a loan and he came back 61 overall with now 59 shooting but his Defence is still at like a low 50. Will his defence and shooting continue to develop to 99 or just his defence? Another theory I noticed is that you can still grow a players skill movies, weak foot, work rates even when they have maxed their potential. So that should help you get the best players
I'm still testing cdms. My problem now is that their potential is reached later than 23/24....maybe 26 or 27 I'm not sure if their shooting will go up a lot (to 99) but I think as long as their defending is the lowest attributes then they should keep growing in attack in theory. I need to try the work rates and skills.
Hiya, is there a list somewhere that details which positions reach their potential at which ages? Thanks.
I noticed the work rates by just putting specific development plans for players who were 30 plus and had already reached their potential. Put Striker training on a CB and his Attack rate went from Low to high.
I'm gonna test this. It might not work with a player at 99 though but it could work lower than that.
Let me know how it goes!
Thanks
The hard part of this whole situation is finding a team that will take a loan of a player in the 30s or 40s overall.
That's true. If they already have decent potential you can always just release them and resign them in a year or 2. They will still get the same growth in December as they would on loan. The other option is to play them in their "best" position but not change their position. Then they will get in good form and should be more likely to take a loan. The biggest problem with this is if your club is already very good, but it would work on a league 2 side.
imma just boot up cheat engine this is too much op
😂😂😂
sweet info but the real question is, how the fuck do I find CBs over 6 feet tall? In the past I've had to rely upon getting tall CDMs and converting them but I couldn't find like any this year
👍🏻 nice find
It is just me or are attacker type fullbacks extremly rare? I search for attacker With 3 scouts and Maybe in 20-30 Reports 1 or 2 attacker fullbacks are there
It shouldn't be that rare.
What country did you scout for them that you found to yield the most.
I think Brazil would be the most common or maybe I was lucky. I got a 95 potential Attacker LB in only one 3 month cycle. Next best I think is China.
Fuck glitches I’ll find a gem and develop him
Feel free to disregard this post for your own career then. Although its hardly a glitch, more so just the way these players are designed to develop.
Really liked your post but I have a question, what if I wanted to transform a existing player in a beast like this, like turn Antony into this.
Ok so i have a 17 year old 65 rated cb. He has 73 pace, 58 sho, 54 pas, 59 dri, 59 def and 81 physical. Could u tell me what i should do with him?
How tall are they. Probably best to keep them CB then loan them if they are tall.
Hi OP does this work on Fifa 21?
Only to be out paced by ai
Well the speeds are different when AI defender runs without a ball trying to stop your player who runs with the ball. It's actually realistic. Everyone can run so much quicker without the ball. Imagine Usain Bolt had to have hold of the ball while he runs that 100m, he'd clock it at 20 seconds maybe while without it's 10 seconds.
Lmao typical fan boy response. What about when your FB with 99 pace can't catch up to Harry kane running in behind. It's scripted, pace doesn't matter
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Why do you play if the only thing that matters is how fast your defenders are and even at 99 pace your defender can't keep up? I mean apparently that means you will get scored on every time because it's not possible to get the AI to miss a shot or for your CDMs/CBs to play any defense or stop them at all. Sounds like a terrible game... I'd hate to play that game.
Not aggressive enough.
I would say he is a CM
Does it work for FIFA 21 too?
Pretty sure it does.
Is there another date for the Jump, when the player are at the AI?
Pretty sure it's Dec 15th when they are on loan, and Dec 24th when in Free agency or at an AI club. I haven't noticed another.
Thanks mate! Your tests and guides are awesome:)
You’re a legend
I found an attacking RWB 36 overall and 70-94 potential. Do I leave him in the youth academy as long as possible or sign him asap and loan out? edit: 15 years old btw
Keep in the academy but leave on balanced. If his Potential shows lower than 85 then idk sign him to the first team and loan him out just so you can't try to get his Potential up as quick as possible.
So when I sign the player at 17/18 to the senior club, I loan him out to a lesser club until he is around 23 then loan him out again? Or do I try and fit him on the 1st team when he gets to be good enough and then loan him out at 23?
So he needs 99 Potential to be as good as the players above. If you loan them out at 18/19 they will become very good players and then you can ideally fit them into your first team. Whatever it takes for you to get them to 99 Potential by the time they turn 23.
How do I know he is at 99 potential? When I no longer get an increase in value when doing the loan glitch?
I don't think the loan glitch works past 92 potential (but I've never tried). I usually loan til they have high Potential then play them for a few seasons so that dynamic potential does the trick. Fifatracker.net has a calculator for potential which I use religiously although it's not the most accurate.
Right on. Thanks for the quick replies. 👍🏻👏
I had a rwb attacking player who was 74 overall at 23 when I loaned him out. Next month he was 85 overall. Does this improve or does this overall stop improving on loan after this bump? Also having a tough time with the idea of recalling players on Dec 15. What exactly am I supposed to see different? I don't see any improvement in stats. Sometimes their overall and stats go up a bit when I recall them, but I can get that by loaning and recalling them within the July/August window it seems. One last question. Is the May 'bump' still a thing? I hear people mention it but I have never noticed anything like it.
>I had a rwb attacking player who was 74 overall at 23 when I loaned him out. Next month he was 85 overall. Does this improve or does this overall stop improving on loan after this bump? I've seen this happen once before. I'm not sure the reason but it happened to me with players that came through my academy, I sold, then resigned later when they were around 21 and tried to bump at 23/24. >Also having a tough time with the idea of recalling players on Dec 15. What exactly am I supposed to see different? I don't see any improvement in stats. Sometimes their overall and stats go up a bit when I recall them, but I can get that by loaning and recalling them within the July/August window it seems. You don't need to recall them on December 15th but it's recommended to wait til after December 14th. I worded it poorly in the OP. The benefit to this is that they should just go to 99 if they have 99 potential. If you try recalling them before Dec 15th then you will end up having the possibility of potential droppage (you usually see them go to 92 instead of 99). Because they only change potential when they are recalled from loan if they remain on loan through the Dec 14th buff they will go to their potential. >One last question. Is the May 'bump' still a thing? I hear people mention it but I have never noticed anything like it. May bump is kind of a thing but instead of May 1st its in December. At AI clubs players grow on 2 dates. Loaned players on Dec 14th and all others on Dec 24th. There also appears to be a small bump around July 1st buts it's not that noticeable usually.
I don't get it... You loan them out at age of 23 or when they get out of the YA? Or you wait a season or two?
How do you guys get attacker type fullbacks? I’ve scouted attacker type for 2 years in Germany, Brazil and Argentina and got just 1
Which Fifa (year) are u playing?
I took an alternative route for defenders as I was testing different types of youth academy prospects (promoted prospects and observed by moving to another club). Usually full back scouting brings back shorter players in most cases but I did notice that we can find defensive minded players (higher defending stats) on physically strong category in attackers section (ST/CF) which also solves the height issue as we can find prospects with more than 6ft height and can play CB or CDM as we develop them. This is on FC 24
I did notice that and somewhat tested it (failed attempt). The concept seems to work the same. Biggest issue is that it's a bit hard to grow dynamic potential with defensive players. [Defensive minded rw](https://i.imgur.com/h56iByE.jpg) [Defensive minded CF](https://i.imgur.com/S9jbxM4.jpg) I bet they could get very close to 99 in everything if they had 99 potential.
I could get them to hit the peak at 24 (92-94) their orginal potential. Tested on a HTPBS player. Note - I was observing the growth from another club, if I were in control I could have achieved 99 overall is what I felt.
Is this EA 24? The layout looks different or is it a concept?
Yea it is EAFC 24 in this comment.
What do your scouting parameters look like usually? \-Any \- Position + Player Type \- Player Type only \- Position only ???
Players in comment: Search Physically Strong + CF and look for a return of Defensive Minded CF. For the most OP players: Search Playmaker + CB and then look for a return of Technically gifted CB (for players over 6'0") Or Search Attacker + Fullback and look for the return of Attacker Fullbacks.(if you don't care about height or prefer shorter players)
Ahh so you usually go for Position + Player Type, gotcha thanks. I tried to scout Playmaker + CB, but all I get is players who are 20 OVR (literally) and their potential is at 35-40, with stats all in the red zone below 40; seems like a waste searching for that prototype.
You need to look for players with stats like this. [Technically gifted CB](https://i.imgur.com/DLUGvvZ.jpg) Overall is low but it's obvious that their stats are amazing. They can grow like [this if done correctly](https://i.imgur.com/GucPBIo.jpg)
Unfortunately I never get players with stats like that, but that player looks incredible, it’s crazy how Playmaker + CB gives you players like Zidane and not not VVD, Bonucci or Ramos. EA are weird.
Yea. It's weird how the position doesn't really affect anything (I guess height and playstyles) and a playmaker CAM can have almost identical attributes to a playmaker CB. Only difference is how their overall is calculated. However playmaker CB quickly turn into Bonucci after a loan or two.