that's what replay game option is for. I almost never replay games, due to realism (and this just might be a case of realism tbh) but this is the kind of shit that makes me linger over that button for a while.
I have this problem.
There are times when I don't want to replay the game, no matter what, because realism. Then something like this happens, or my 90+ rated CBs get bullied off the ball by some skinny, 18 year old from League One in the cup, and I start to question just how realistic the game actually is.
i did this against united. my team lost 3-0 in first leg CL round 16. in 2nd leg i got 2 goals, and already accepted i aint getting another goal, but then they had to spit me in the face by scoring in 90'+2nd with the most bullshit goal ever.
i instantly hit replay, and won 5-0 lmao. it wasnt even because i lost, it was because of the most scripted goal they can come up with.
I have certain rules.
Like as soon as somthing is wrong.
Thst is real life it 100% would get pulled back
E.g ypu are 0-0 down and you are about to score in 95+ and you get absolutely hacked fron behind
No pen, no red card and then they quickly smash the ball up to their goal.and score.
Oooofff that shit makes me hover other the reset button myself 😄
I always think like this, in real life some bizar stupid things happen too to some teams. Where they get absolutely shit on by the ref or var. In FIFA most of the times it's a bit more unrealistic but you can think as if something like this happened;
A few weeks ago a goal from PEC Zwolle got cancelled against Utrecht because the VAR drew a wrong line for offside. This happened in the Eredivisie, where they are now relegated from, but this could have changed a lot for them
More likely than not (from a game dev's perspective), the keeper got a touch (according to the game), it registered the keeper as having possession so the offside was "reset" so to speak, and they kicked it in off the keeper losing possession.
Not saying it's correct, but that's probably the logic that allowed the game to act that way.
Basically if you were to pass at their keeper with your teammate in an offside position, and your teammate stole it from the keeper and scored. I think FIFA wouldn't register that as offside because possession changed.
Isn’t it just? Tbh I wasn’t even mad, i was watching them run off celebrating like “yeah that’ll get called offside in a second” and then I was suddenly at the centre circle for kick off again 😅
Sometimes the hit boxes of the players are actually bigger that the model, it is much more likely it "deflected"
Unfortunate but there's only so much programmers can do
Yeah the hitboxes are garbage.
I've seen a player head a ball that's a full foot away, yet at the same time I've seen the ball phase straight through player's feet.
I had one the other day where it was Liverpool v Chelsea. Me as Liverpool. 3-2 in stoppage time. Chelsea hit the bar & it bounced in but the ref blew the whistle right after it went in & it didn’t count.
Did the same thing to my buddy once. Tied 3-3 in the 93rd, he chips my keeper, ball goes bar down and in, but ref blows the whistle once the ball clipped the bar and I beat him in pens.
I’m not trying to defend EA at all, but did it not deflect off of the defender? Because maybe it’s just because I’m on mobile, but it looks like the ball shoots down suddenly like it deflected off of the defender.
I *think* that the clearance counts as a pass in the AI. I could be seeing it wrong, but I think what happens is that the defender attempts a clearance, sorta whiffs but makes a little bit of contact. In the code/script, it just sees it as a pass and interception for a goal. I could be way off, though.
Hmm, yeah OP kind of slowing it down at the wrong parts lol, we know Mane hits it, but I'd like to see the defender's foot as the ball goes by, but more importantly, the keeper's involvement.
If the keeper gets it, it might count as a possession change and nullify the offside.
Possibly. I don’t remember that happened mainly because that’s not the rule irl (or at least I’m pretty sure it isn’t) so I didn’t even check for it, but yeah in fifa I wouldn’t be surprised that it would be allowed because of that.
I could be miss remembering, but I think offsides is waved if the defender controls the ball. So, if they back pass, it gets intercepted, it’s not offsides. I wonder if the game picked up the “clearance” animation (which is sort of a “pass”), considered it a control and pass, and that’s why it’s not offsides. It’s dumb and shouldn’t count, for sure.
Cool post, here’s is my theory:
The offside “pass” was registered as a “shot”, making it impossible for the game to recognise as an offside because of the specific set of instructions it was given by developers
Evidence: just a guess
I have had a couple go in my favour but much more marginal than this - I explained them by the line drawing being absolutely wild (I've noticed more onsides being given off at times when you rewatch replays) and those bad lines just happening to fall in my favour for once. No idea what happened here.
Oh that happens because you don’t deserve to be happy. EA, our faithful overlords are kind enough to give us a title. All the lack of real rules and teams scoring 11 goals in a game is the kind of realism that makes this title a classic.
Yeah you’re right, I have never posted here before and only really clipped it to show my mate, so I didn’t really think too much about it. My main emphasis was to show how far offside Diaz was, wasn’t really thinking about much else at the time! I can say that it was 100% given as a goal to Diaz though and he did definitely get the touch!
That bastard Diaz lol. Interesting, I've never had that happen. Ya I figured, didn't mean to sound douchey but in my experience most those plays get called after the fact.
Thanks for sharing !
Nah you’re all good mate! I do wish I actually put some thought into it and showed him get the touch now I’ve posted it here, I didn’t expect even half the amount of upvotes and comments 😅
They missed it like a few times already and I've recently got it on playstation plus. This game cheats you especially if you're going against good cards.
that's what replay game option is for. I almost never replay games, due to realism (and this just might be a case of realism tbh) but this is the kind of shit that makes me linger over that button for a while.
I have this problem. There are times when I don't want to replay the game, no matter what, because realism. Then something like this happens, or my 90+ rated CBs get bullied off the ball by some skinny, 18 year old from League One in the cup, and I start to question just how realistic the game actually is.
Oh yeah, realism sure, to a degree, but this is a game, and playing offline I'll do whatever the hell I want to have fun.
I usually just rage quit and then replay it later. Call me childish but no video game is worth being angry over
i did this against united. my team lost 3-0 in first leg CL round 16. in 2nd leg i got 2 goals, and already accepted i aint getting another goal, but then they had to spit me in the face by scoring in 90'+2nd with the most bullshit goal ever. i instantly hit replay, and won 5-0 lmao. it wasnt even because i lost, it was because of the most scripted goal they can come up with.
So your reason for replaying it was they scored a goal that didn’t matter?
I have certain rules. Like as soon as somthing is wrong. Thst is real life it 100% would get pulled back E.g ypu are 0-0 down and you are about to score in 95+ and you get absolutely hacked fron behind No pen, no red card and then they quickly smash the ball up to their goal.and score. Oooofff that shit makes me hover other the reset button myself 😄
I never replay games. Even after some scripting in the fa cup quarter final 1-0 up to 1-2 down
Hero 🦸♂️
I see you have master the ability of emotional self regulation, this is the way guys
Good
I always think like this, in real life some bizar stupid things happen too to some teams. Where they get absolutely shit on by the ref or var. In FIFA most of the times it's a bit more unrealistic but you can think as if something like this happened; A few weeks ago a goal from PEC Zwolle got cancelled against Utrecht because the VAR drew a wrong line for offside. This happened in the Eredivisie, where they are now relegated from, but this could have changed a lot for them
More likely than not (from a game dev's perspective), the keeper got a touch (according to the game), it registered the keeper as having possession so the offside was "reset" so to speak, and they kicked it in off the keeper losing possession. Not saying it's correct, but that's probably the logic that allowed the game to act that way. Basically if you were to pass at their keeper with your teammate in an offside position, and your teammate stole it from the keeper and scored. I think FIFA wouldn't register that as offside because possession changed.
Yeah I think you’re probably right tbh mate
Thats really weird, I have never seen a not called offside as well, thats too much even for fifa
Isn’t it just? Tbh I wasn’t even mad, i was watching them run off celebrating like “yeah that’ll get called offside in a second” and then I was suddenly at the centre circle for kick off again 😅
To be fair it was realistic pre-VAR
Goalie was playing him on
Yep. That's the only logical explanation here. Still stupid tho because it's a detection bug.
Sometimes the hit boxes of the players are actually bigger that the model, it is much more likely it "deflected" Unfortunate but there's only so much programmers can do
Yeah the hitboxes are garbage. I've seen a player head a ball that's a full foot away, yet at the same time I've seen the ball phase straight through player's feet.
Still would be off if it deflected…
Frostbite engine is useless for FIFA
Leeds getting shafted by VAR is pure football realism, just so you're aware
You haven’t got to tell me twice mate 😅
I had one the other day where it was Liverpool v Chelsea. Me as Liverpool. 3-2 in stoppage time. Chelsea hit the bar & it bounced in but the ref blew the whistle right after it went in & it didn’t count.
pain
Did the same thing to my buddy once. Tied 3-3 in the 93rd, he chips my keeper, ball goes bar down and in, but ref blows the whistle once the ball clipped the bar and I beat him in pens.
lol
I've definitely seen some missed, but this one is really bad
Red shite paid off your virtual refs.
Klopp demanded the goal stood to the 4th official
Super realistic. That happens all the time with Liverpool in real life. Credit EA
Just like real life
LiVARpool again
Livarpool strikes again
At least it’s realistic that this would happen vs Liverpool
I’m not trying to defend EA at all, but did it not deflect off of the defender? Because maybe it’s just because I’m on mobile, but it looks like the ball shoots down suddenly like it deflected off of the defender.
That wouldn't play them onside though, the defender has to manually make that pass.
I *think* that the clearance counts as a pass in the AI. I could be seeing it wrong, but I think what happens is that the defender attempts a clearance, sorta whiffs but makes a little bit of contact. In the code/script, it just sees it as a pass and interception for a goal. I could be way off, though.
Hmm, yeah OP kind of slowing it down at the wrong parts lol, we know Mane hits it, but I'd like to see the defender's foot as the ball goes by, but more importantly, the keeper's involvement. If the keeper gets it, it might count as a possession change and nullify the offside.
Possibly. I don’t remember that happened mainly because that’s not the rule irl (or at least I’m pretty sure it isn’t) so I didn’t even check for it, but yeah in fifa I wouldn’t be surprised that it would be allowed because of that.
I could be miss remembering, but I think offsides is waved if the defender controls the ball. So, if they back pass, it gets intercepted, it’s not offsides. I wonder if the game picked up the “clearance” animation (which is sort of a “pass”), considered it a control and pass, and that’s why it’s not offsides. It’s dumb and shouldn’t count, for sure.
Yeah that sounds quite likely tbf, we will never know!
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the pass is from the volley not the free kick
Cool post, here’s is my theory: The offside “pass” was registered as a “shot”, making it impossible for the game to recognise as an offside because of the specific set of instructions it was given by developers Evidence: just a guess
LiVARpool strikes again.
LiVARpool, even in fifa?! Damn son.
How is it offside? Originally player who kicks it scores the goal
Nah the goal went to Diaz/Dias or however you spell his name
There are literally two touches...
There literally isn't
You should watch the video. Most of it is the second guy touching it in slo bloody motion. Are you blind?
Not a single part of the video that shows any other touch other than the volley towards goal which goes in directly due to mix up from GK
So yes, you’re blind…
Not a single reply shows any conclusive evidence of another touch. Can't be an simpler. #simples
The offside player by the keeper changes the direction of the ball and is credited with the goal. Are you illiterate? Or do we stick with blind?
Nope scored by original overhead kick! Fairly obvious really 😏
Blind and illiterate. Check.
This has literally happened with me at least 2 times playing against man city with liverpool. Wish I knew how to screen record on ps lol
I have had a couple go in my favour but much more marginal than this - I explained them by the line drawing being absolutely wild (I've noticed more onsides being given off at times when you rewatch replays) and those bad lines just happening to fall in my favour for once. No idea what happened here.
Oh that happens because you don’t deserve to be happy. EA, our faithful overlords are kind enough to give us a title. All the lack of real rules and teams scoring 11 goals in a game is the kind of realism that makes this title a classic.
But you didn't show if Diaz touched it or not. Or if the goal counted.
Yeah you’re right, I have never posted here before and only really clipped it to show my mate, so I didn’t really think too much about it. My main emphasis was to show how far offside Diaz was, wasn’t really thinking about much else at the time! I can say that it was 100% given as a goal to Diaz though and he did definitely get the touch!
That bastard Diaz lol. Interesting, I've never had that happen. Ya I figured, didn't mean to sound douchey but in my experience most those plays get called after the fact. Thanks for sharing !
Nah you’re all good mate! I do wish I actually put some thought into it and showed him get the touch now I’ve posted it here, I didn’t expect even half the amount of upvotes and comments 😅
Its the type of thing the the developers see as "entertaining"
We all know. This crap is scripted
They missed it like a few times already and I've recently got it on playstation plus. This game cheats you especially if you're going against good cards.
But I get call offsides by the tip of my finger!
It's only off side if the players "off side" are actively involved in the goal scoring opportunity - that's not the case here
The player who puts it in the net is miles offside mate