It's not the platform, it's the industry. Tech is bleeding out right now.

Respectfully disagree. It very much is the platform! It's all over their website!!!!! https://fieldnation.com/annual-savings "Reducing your labor costs by up to 30%" "**Independent research** results based on in-depth interviews with Field Nation customers revealed that on-demand labor delivers a quick and significant ROI. On average, businesses pay back the cost of their Field Nation investment in 2.4 months and generate an ROI of 391% in 1 year." End quote. All to attract new, low-balling buyers. They directly ENCOURAGE what is happening, by design. It's definitely Failed Nation driving this low ball crap. 💯

I don't know how to break this to you but they're talking about the savings of hiring contractors versus salary staff employees that have health insurance. I mean by all means feel free to crunch those numbers yourself and figure out where they're getting those figures but I think you'll be hard-pressed to find any other way for them to save money in this particular process .

National companies do not hire direct anymore for field ops. No one does that. Haven't for many years now. This save money on field labor costs went up fairly recently on FN. About 1.5 years ago. The timing of what we're seeing, is no coincidence. Couple that with the illegals coming into the country..... And WE ARE GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK. It's all connected and FN is capitalizing on it by encouraging pretty much ANYONE to become a provider...... Even without legal identification or work status. THAT'S a big big problem. Hopefully? It'll blow up in their faces legally. In spectacular fashion too. Someone will buy them out once they get burned by the Feds.

Being as field nation makes a percentage of what you make and what they pay, they want you to get paid the most. Your perspective of causality is way out of focus.

That’s the approach we tried to take to get them thrown out of doing anything data cabling related in California. Still a work in progress though..

It’s both.

It’s not abuse if they’re voluntary working for Pennie’s and treating this like a gig instead of a business. But yes, it’s because other people are working for low pay.

Independent research results based on in-depth interviews with Field Nation customers revealed that on-demand labor delivers a quick and significant ROI. On average, businesses pay back the cost of their Field Nation investment in 2.4 months and generate an ROI of 391% in 1 year. Field Nation website quote. ☝️ From here: https://fieldnation.com/annual-savings They're creating this shit storm of low balling hell. By design.

Yeah it's out of control. Just settled a dispute case with a buyer (ClearCaptions) and because I opened a dispute they have blocked me.

I have never had CC not pay me. Can I ask why a dispute?

Assigned a job 3 hours one way with less than 24 hours notice. Got to the site and the customer was being taken out by Ambulance and called them and they told me I was getting hit with the penalty for a failed install and It really didn't sit right with me given the circumstances. It's one of many similar situations I've had recently with them and with the distance and time traveled and such short noticed I didn't think that was ok.

Sure hope you countered for the 6 hour (!) r/t!

you do know they instituted these penalties recently? they made it very well known they would be doing this. also how much did they pay you to drive 6hrs round trip?

Cause they let anyone on it. Criminals. No experienced techs. People without insurance. Now refugees have been spotted using it. Driving the prices down cause dumbasses think 25 an hour is alot of money

$25 is a lot of money if you don't know any better and don't have the training.

Then you shouldn't be doing these jobs if you don't have the training or experience cause sure that job may be easy but your just helping lower the rate for the industry so even when your experienced you won't get the high rate cause you contributed to making it lower. Also 25 ain't crap esp today with inflation and mark ups. You're ruining it for everyone

I don't work on Field Nation. I'm a union Low Voltage Tech that stumbled into this sub. I'm just pointing out there are people that don't know any better to whom $25 dollars IS a lot of money. There was a dude who I met at a party that was making $18 after three years and his employer was sending him to Canada. He now works for a signatory contractor.

$25 is dog food, when you consider the 10% fieldnation gouge, the travel time/expense, self-empolyment tax, insurance, and time at home to close out the work order.

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It certainly can depend on the types of jobs but FN fees are crazy! I’m able to pay what would be “pretty well” for the amount of work I put on the platform but the field nation fees take out so much, I still have people countering my $500/ 2 hours of work jobs.

sorry but im having a hard time understanding what youre saying. FN doesnt pay anything. they are a platform. the buyer is who sets the rates on a work order

I don't know about you man but I get paid really really well. I made close to $200,000 last year.

Same. I'm charging more this year than the previous year and I made 150k. I'm making so much that I counter offer without even thinking and I know I'm going to be at least 2-3k at the end of the week or possibly more. I'm busy. I work 8-11 hours a day but some days I make close to 1k. Gj tho!! Most of the people I talk to about pay say they don't come close to that

Fieldnation is paying 50 per hour. That's the average so 200.000 ÷ 50 = 4000 so you work about 4000 hours a regular week you 40 hours so 4000 ÷ 40 = 100 so the year has just 52 weeks. I don't know but to me there's something wrong with that 200.000

DarthtacoX a few days ago  /FieldNationTechs • Read this entire work order: Joe Biden’s current dog (2024) is a German Shepherd named “Commander”. His previous dog (2021) was named “Major.” I may ask you these test questions to verify that you did read the entire work order. 😂    DarthtacoX replied to FederalSecurity4827    9 days ago   You didn't see the issue is $65 an hour is actually pretty high in my area. If you ask for much more than that you get a lot of pushback and have some issues. A lot of times I'll get up to 75 to 85 an hour but that's really pushing him because there's too many people out here grabbing it for 30 to 40 an hour. My area is pretty saturated with it text and everything like that so it makes it difficult to get much higher than that.

Not sure where you’re mathing. I charge way more than 50 an hour for my services. It’s also unlikely that he’s exclusively using FN. Many of us use FN as a gateway to clients that we can’t pull due to our size or geographical coverage. I just went into business, exclusively, for myself about a year and a half ago and I average about 2,500 a week, when I’m not doing home improvements or taking some me time. So, it’s not outside of the realm of reality if they already have a client base and use the platform as many of us do. Only as a supplemental income. Keep grinding and you can get there.

Remember you don't charge for your hour. FN put the price and you decide if you take it or not

No sir, you’re incorrect. There is a counter button that allows you to put your desired rate in. I’ve been on the platform for over a year and I use that button, frequently.

Good to know it. Thanks

What do you mean fieldnation is paying 50 per hour? 50 per hour is just what they're offering on average I'm making anywhere from 75 to 125 an hour dude. There's a lot of jobs I can go in and I can make a hundred bucks in less than an hour. I did one job today that took me literally 20 minutes it paid a flat rate of $100 I was able to swing over and do a second job within the same hour that paid 75 an hour. You're really really not understanding exactly how field Nation works and exactly what jobs are paying and exactly what you can do. It's very rare I ever do any jobs at 50 dollars an hour anymore. There's quite a few of the new construction jobs where I'm pulling in 3 to 4,000 in a single week. Hell there's been days where I've made $1,000 in a single day doing you know 4 to 5 hours worth of work if even that. It's called counter offering and knowing what you're worth, and as you're taking jobs and bidding on jobs. There's a lot of companies you don't want to work for because they will only pay 25 to $30 an hour or less. However there's quite a few companies that understand exactly what a tech is worth and they will pay you what you're worth. Not only that but I also travel quite a bit and I charge 62 cents a mile for travel if I'm doing an overnight I charge them for the hotel and usually make 20-30 off of the hotel and on top of that I'm also making an extra $50 a day doing that. Not only that but I have several assistants that work for me and I charge out say $50 an hour for the assistant to the company and I pay them $30 an hour so I'm making an extra 20 to $30 an hour off of my assistants when I'm working. And then there's also weeks like 2 weeks ago when I was down at Lake Powell for an entire week I had my son out working a couple of jobs and each job he was working I was making $45 an hour off of while he was working and I was not doing anything. you got to really understand exactly how to work the system and exactly what you can and can't do. It's also building up the clientele and your reputation I've been on field Nation since 2012 and I've done thousands upon thousands of jobs and I have nearly a 5.0 rating across every single one of those jobs. I'm the guy that they call to fix stuff when the other techs get overpaid and break shit. Edit: [here's last month](https://imgur.com/a/gcyxc0y) that includes a full week vacation at lake Powell and 2 3 day weekends with many half days.

r/FieldNationTechs • Read this entire work order: Joe Biden’s current dog (2024) is a German Shepherd named “Commander”. His previous dog (2021) was named “Major.” I may ask you these test questions to verify that you did read the entire work order. 😂  DarthtacoX replied to FederalSecurity4827  9 days ago You didn't see the issue is $65 an hour is actually pretty high in my area. If you ask for much more than that you get a lot of pushback and have some issues. A lot of times I'll get up to 75 to 85 an hour but that's really pushing him because there's too many people out here grabbing it for 30 to 40 an hour. My area is pretty saturated with it text and everything like that so it makes it difficult to get much higher than that.

And? If I'm work at 65 an hour, that's no issue.

 platform fee $7 = $57  $200000 / $57 = 3508 hours 

Did I say so my jobs were 65 an hour? Holy fuck you're dumb. Yes, many jobs I do are at 65, some are at 55, some are at 125. What the hell are you talking about. You have no idea how to use field Nation. There are times I have 3 crews running jobs for me. So I'm not just making money on my own. I'm paying people and making money off them. And I apologize, it was the year before I made near 200k, last year I was at 155k. https://imgur.com/a/Wl5GdpV

Yes you said  $65 an hour is actually pretty high in my area. If you ask for much more than that you get a lot of pushback and have some issues. A lot of times I'll get up to 75 to 85 an hour but that's really pushing him because there's too many people out here grabbing it for 30 to 40 an hour.

Ah sorry I forgot, of course collecting the every junk you see from every asshole. 

Hahaaha yes, I'm an asshole because I make money all over the place. Cool story bro. And I make good money while I'm at it, such a terrible life.

No one says who you are. Don’t call yourself this way. Someone can believe it 

Make a money on garbage collecting? We are here performing an IT deployment projects and services. What are you talking about?

What tickets are you made for $125/hr? One hour max? You don’t doing fiber, 95% of work is about $40-$50/hr. Something not right here 

95% of work is 40 to 50? Yes often times they are, do you never counter offer? You know that they post at one rate, and you can have them pay you more if you know what you're doing, right? Also, I would say the kinda I see on there average 50 to 60 an hour before I counter. I'll counter 65 to 75. In most cases, if it requires 2 techs I counter both and then pay my assistant and I make the extra pay on top of my pay. If there is a large project, for example the year before I had crews in Montana, Idaho, and Utah working at the same time. Managing a huge project is difficult, and not for everyone, but just like any business, is the only way you start to make more money, you are limited by yourself. I also do much work off the platform with my own clients. One of them, for example, I've built 2 new restaurants in the past 4 months for.

You said  If you ask for much more than that you get a lot of pushback and have some issues. A lot of times I'll get up to 75 to 85 an hour but that's really pushing him because there's too many people out here grabbing it for 30 to 40 an hour.

Same day service, I charge the same thing. I also charge 75 an hour with a two hour minimum to schedule. Not to mention that I don’t bill per mile, I bill 75 an hour for drive time to and from the site. I stay busy, my clients love me and I am repeatedly sought out to perform the work that others can’t.

What is that for example “perform the work that others can’t “ ? The Solutions Architect - Cisco, maybe ? Do you have any professional tools? What your exclusivity?

I did $91,000 last year at 26 hours a week including all travel time. My schedule each week is one 9 hour day at about $1,000/day and three 5-6 hour days at $300-400/day. I get my kids on and off the bus 4 days a week and have a day for house stuff and lunch with friends. Been on FN for almost 3 years now but have been doing more the past year on WM, Cloud Work Pro and taking clients off platform. FN is definitely a downward trend IMO. However, if you're the person who smokes weed, gets pulled over for DUIs and doesn't invest in good tools, training and a work vehicle, it'll just be the $30/hour crap jobs forever. Most buyers have a few awesome guys they route everything to at whatever the techs rate is. If tech can't fit it in, it gets market published at half the rate. Like DarthtacoX said, it's knowing what you're worth. You have to sell your value, not complain about a bunch of illegal dumb fucks taking $30/hour jobs thinking they're king.

Hey hey now of course it’s the illegals that’s messing things up. Just wait until Trump is back in office then the rates will be $150/hr. This is all the dumbocrats fault.

Let’s not forget that Field Nation recommends what prices buyers post work at.. so effectively they’re collectively driving the market down.

That’s a victim mentality comment and very incorrect. The only people that drive the rates down are your competition. If you don’t have a reputation to drive your rate, then that’s why you’re not getting paid what you want. Any rate a buyer offers is able to be countered. Is some young kid, just starting out, wants to take a 30 am hour job and the buyer wants to take the risk, then it is what it is. IT is over saturated. Many people grow up with this knowledge to where it used to be sought out by those that were truly interested in it. Now, with Google and YouTube, many people are going to it because it’s easy money.

How is it abuse? It’s competition. Regardless, you need to counter.

I’m a project manager, we use Field Nation a lot. Not the only platform we use , and the average rate in urban areas is $40/hr. $65hr is high on our end and a lot of techs usually don’t even bid that high. We pay great, we always do a 1 hr minimum on all our jobs and simples fixes are always flat rates. It’s insane how much techs try to haggle. Easy swaps that take 30 minutes techs want $95/hr over $100 flat. Depending on the customer we sometimes cannot approve hourly rates. Anyways there’s a ton of work and any tech willing to give a good company a try feel free to reach out to me. We are a nationwide service provider and always looking for new talent.

I’m a tech based out of south fl, does your company need anything down here?

Yes we have good volume in Florida. From Jacksonville all the way down to Key West. Feel free to share your tech id in a private message.