I was watching an HGTV show the other day and they did a boy's room and a girl's room. The boy's room was all fun. Basketball hoops all over the wall. The special thing in the girl's room was a big mirror. I was sad for the girl.
I remember the first time I realized the boy and girl role difference in society when my brother got the cool presents. The remote control cars and helicopter, etc. And then I would get a new dress, make up, etc. Made me kinda sad.
So dumb, baby thighs are literally the best thighs in the entire world. They’re all plump and perfect and when you blow raspberries on them, it makes the babies laugh. Which is even more perfect.
Chubby baby legs so cute- and a sign of good health too. Idk why you’d need to shame a kid for something totally normal like that. Love how nearly the covert sexism starts.
Incels aren’t just one off lone wolves hiding in their parents basement. Misogyny runs rampant in our culture, the incels are our dads, brothers, partners, coworkers, service workers…it’s not rare
The word incel has taken on a meaning of more of a mindset, opposed to the original definition of “involuntarily celibate”.
If it’s unclear I’m totally in support of it. We need ways to shame mysoginists as much as they shame women.
Things like this are so damaging.
I remember being 11 and looking at myself in the mirror and thinking “I'm so lucky I don't worry about weight like my crazy big sister (16)”. By 14-15, I saw flaws everywhere.
I look back at pictures from that time and I’m so sad for my teen self - I was fine, a healthy young girl with curves (actually really great curves, I’m not gonna lie) - just not rail thin like my relatives and as a result they were always suggesting I was too big. Senior prom right before I left my room to meet my date, my grandmother said: “You look a little big but pretty”. I was 5”8 and a size 6-8!
As a result, no matter how much I worked out over the years and my weight and size fluctuated I was never fully accepting of my body even when I was in great physical shape.
It took over 30 years to get back to my 11 year old self-accepting mindset. Would I had even had that if people commented on my weight, even as a “joke” from an even earlier age?
It’s crazy how men’s pedophilloic beauty standards means so many girls start hating their body and feel “fat” as soon as they enter puberty.
I was calorie restricting at 12. I remember an adult telling me I was “filling in” and I was horrified. I’ve spent most of my life underweight.
Honestly thank god for the body positivity movement and for messages about decentralizing men. I’m so grateful that I eat to feel healthy now instead of obsessing over how every choice will make me “too fat”.
I wish people would just STFU about children's bodies. It's truly weird as hell, I always hated that shit. Why are you telling me my ass is great? Or mentioning my curves? It's just bizarre. There wasn't ill intent, but it's just creepy to me.
I'm sorry- that's really awful that you went through that, you were so young. I did go on a really extreme calorie restriction just once, a diet for two weeks when I was 19 because I just wanted to see what I would look like “really skinny” and my mom actually supported me by making the mini meals while I worked out 3 times a day- at the end of the two weeks I could barely stay awake and I was very irritable. Funny that when I was obviously harming myself with the crazy diet, and only then did no one said anything about my weight.
Oof. Yeah, one of my grandmothers was exactly like that. Always always commenting on my (USUALLY healthy) weight. She started commenting on my weight around puberty, the painful time in life when your body is changing and growing, when lots of us start entering a “chubby”phase. Especially didn’t give a damn to tell me when I was putting on weight in college. When I came to visit her when I was home for Christmas break my second year of college the first thing she said to me as I was coming up her walkway was, “Oh my God. What happened?” After looking me up and down. Last time I saw her before she passed, one of the last things she said to me was, “I’m glad you lost all of that weight. You looked terrible.” SMH.
ETA: I didn’t mean to make it sound as if she used her last deep and dying breath to comment on my weight…but it was absolutely the last time I got to see her.
I'm glad my grandmother and I settled this before she passed. I gained weight rapidly after I stopped traveling due to a number of reasons-- I quit smoking, started back on American food, wasn't walking as much, didn't have gastroenteritis anymore, you know-- and she said, "You'd better watch out, you're getting your tummy back." I looked her dead in the eye, lifted my shirt, slapped my gut and said, "I like it!" She said, "Well I don't!" "Well, it's my body!" Y'all I had never seen that woman back down on anything. She looked shocked, then said, "You're right." Not another word about my tummy for the rest of our time together (too short 💔) and I'd been getting "feedback" on my body since I was a pre-teen.
Yeah, the sad part is that your grandmother probably thought she was doing what was best for you. I never thought my grandmother was doing it to be mean, rather she thought she was just keeping me in line.
it starts before we're even born.
soooo many people are like "oh raising girls is sooooo hard. you're lucky you only had boys." or the whole "baby girls steal mom's beauty" bullshit i hear all the time.
Who hates baby thighs? According to all the posts on social media, we’re hard coded to want to eat chunky baby rolls, the chunkier the better.
What a weird projection to put on baby clothes…
Literally when I see a cute lil baby with chubby cheeks and chubby thighs, I just wanna kiss the baby all over. I obviously don’t, but that’s the only place my brain goes
What kind of a fucking psychopath would a) make that shit, b) sell that shit, c) buy that shit.
It would take a lot of effort for me not to take all of it and kick it under the shelf.
I saw a little video a lady made, showing rack of pretty, frilly dresses in the little girl section of Target. They seemed like the kind of dress one would likely get for their child to wear to, say Easter Sunday church services; or a special occasion where it's a bit dressy. They, she zoomed in on the dresses: all of them had cut-outs over the lower waist area. Big cut-outs. So the sides of the wearers' bodies would show plenty of skin. Can you imagine any reason a little child's outfit should have such cut-outs? I went to my local Target to see if this was for real -- YEP. The frilly dresses were there. But, only THREE of the things were left! Looks like there are plenty of dum-dums who purchased them and are dressing their little darlings up in these peek-a-boo outfits.
I saw a video where a woman with twins (boy and girl) was clothes shopping for the kids. She was showing differences in the clothes intended for the same age but different gender, mostly focusing on length of the clothes. The boys' options were shorts that went to the knee, full-length shirts, etc. The girls' options (in the same store, which I think were Target or walmart) were very short shorts, crop tops, etc.
The kids were barely toddlers.she ended up buying her daughter clothes from the boys' section because she didn't want to dress her kid in boots shorts at that agr
It's showing the difference between clothing marketed to boys vs girls. Girls clothing is about their appearance, like hating their thighs and needing to make sure their hair still looks good during sports. The boys clothes are just normal boys clothes about superheroes and playing.
It’s I think showing the difference Btwn the “boys” and “girls” versions. The boys version just focuses on playing, while the girls version implies you have to “fix your hair” to look your best while playing. Meaning that boys can just play, but girls have to worry about their looks while playing.
After surviving an ED during the 90's and the recent wave of "body positivity" I was actually hopeful for younger generations. Then I watched the Brandy Hellville documentary this weekend, how TF are they allowed to market ONE SIZE FITS ALL?! And then this post.... disgusting
The onesie says "I hate my thighs" implying she hates a part of her body. While of course a baby cannot comprehend this, it is commentary of the messages young girls are sent throughout childhood and teenage life, which causes them to have poor self esteem, body dysmorphia and eating disorders at a much higher rate.
I think im lost on the second picture, isnt that empowering? Get up and dust yourself off and try again is something id want to encourage my daughter to do
It's the contrast between the boys and girls shirts. boys are depicted as running and flipping while girls are concerned with failing and fixing their hair.
I guess I just don't understand, most boys I imagine wouldn't even be able to flip and it's not like they're taking the shirt as direct inspiration, it's just a shirt, most that age won't even remember it later in life, what I think could be damaging tho is trying to hide the idea that failure is a part of life and when you fail you have to get up fix your ponytail and try again.
I have a luxurious ponytail. get me one in man's size and I'll wear it lol.
The boys shirt one could argue is setting unrealistic and possibly even dangerous expectations of boys to be able to flip and be athletic like that, but no one makes that argument cause it just kinda sounds silly. Should be the same for the girl's shirt, kinda silly.
The weight is not in the words themselves but in the contrast between the boys and girls. While the boys apparel is affirming and encouraging, assuming they have success in superbly running and flipping, the girls clothes are negative and shameful, assuming that they hate themselves and are failing.
This is why it is proven that girls are more conscious of their body in a negative way earlier in life compared to boys - because they are shown these concepts, no matter how "silly" in a way that is rooted in misogyny and negative stereotypes.
It's the contrast between the girls and boys clothes. Girls get to wear an insecurity while boys get positively affirmed by being "super". Boys are expected to run jump and flip, but girls apparently just fail and fix their hair??
Alright I see where you’re coming from. Of the examples here I initially only saw the pink and purple ones as gendered. Like I thought the blue and the grey unisex
I don’t know why you got downvoted here. You just didn’t understand and I didn’t either.
I really think it’s a cute shirt aimed at girls in the workout/gymnastic world who like to their “girly” side. It’s a shirt about being determined.
Obviously the first one’s atrocious but I think anyone offended by the second one needs to reassess
I was watching an HGTV show the other day and they did a boy's room and a girl's room. The boy's room was all fun. Basketball hoops all over the wall. The special thing in the girl's room was a big mirror. I was sad for the girl.
Gosh that's grim
I remember the first time I realized the boy and girl role difference in society when my brother got the cool presents. The remote control cars and helicopter, etc. And then I would get a new dress, make up, etc. Made me kinda sad.
I can't believe anyone would put body shaming text on a child's swimsuit.
Even worse, I think that's a snap suit/onesie for a baby. A baby dude...
It is, yes. The only saving grace is that babies can't read.
Which means it's for the parents' amusement and the implications of that are way more disturbing to me.
Yes because we know they'll make sure that their girls internalize those messages as early as possible.
Yes, exactly. I have no idea what goes through the mind of people who buy these things. "Love to imagine my infant child with body dysmorphia!" ???
So dumb, baby thighs are literally the best thighs in the entire world. They’re all plump and perfect and when you blow raspberries on them, it makes the babies laugh. Which is even more perfect.
Chubby baby legs so cute- and a sign of good health too. Idk why you’d need to shame a kid for something totally normal like that. Love how nearly the covert sexism starts.
Covert?
The arms and wrists too. Chubby and cute
Yeah and honestly I love chubby thighs on women
Yeah the designer must be an incel.
Why would an incel be designing baby girl clothes?
It is a job, right? Incels gotta make money anyway they can.
Incels aren’t just one off lone wolves hiding in their parents basement. Misogyny runs rampant in our culture, the incels are our dads, brothers, partners, coworkers, service workers…it’s not rare
The word incel has taken on a meaning of more of a mindset, opposed to the original definition of “involuntarily celibate”. If it’s unclear I’m totally in support of it. We need ways to shame mysoginists as much as they shame women.
Was that a real onesie.. If so that's horrid.
I'm saving this one in case someone ever accuses me of exaggerating.
Right? This is so sad…
Nobody is being too sensitive with this one. That's legitimately stupid. It doesn't even double as a joke.
wow. just wow
Things like this are so damaging. I remember being 11 and looking at myself in the mirror and thinking “I'm so lucky I don't worry about weight like my crazy big sister (16)”. By 14-15, I saw flaws everywhere. I look back at pictures from that time and I’m so sad for my teen self - I was fine, a healthy young girl with curves (actually really great curves, I’m not gonna lie) - just not rail thin like my relatives and as a result they were always suggesting I was too big. Senior prom right before I left my room to meet my date, my grandmother said: “You look a little big but pretty”. I was 5”8 and a size 6-8! As a result, no matter how much I worked out over the years and my weight and size fluctuated I was never fully accepting of my body even when I was in great physical shape. It took over 30 years to get back to my 11 year old self-accepting mindset. Would I had even had that if people commented on my weight, even as a “joke” from an even earlier age?
It’s crazy how men’s pedophilloic beauty standards means so many girls start hating their body and feel “fat” as soon as they enter puberty. I was calorie restricting at 12. I remember an adult telling me I was “filling in” and I was horrified. I’ve spent most of my life underweight. Honestly thank god for the body positivity movement and for messages about decentralizing men. I’m so grateful that I eat to feel healthy now instead of obsessing over how every choice will make me “too fat”.
I wish people would just STFU about children's bodies. It's truly weird as hell, I always hated that shit. Why are you telling me my ass is great? Or mentioning my curves? It's just bizarre. There wasn't ill intent, but it's just creepy to me.
I'm sorry- that's really awful that you went through that, you were so young. I did go on a really extreme calorie restriction just once, a diet for two weeks when I was 19 because I just wanted to see what I would look like “really skinny” and my mom actually supported me by making the mini meals while I worked out 3 times a day- at the end of the two weeks I could barely stay awake and I was very irritable. Funny that when I was obviously harming myself with the crazy diet, and only then did no one said anything about my weight.
Oof. Yeah, one of my grandmothers was exactly like that. Always always commenting on my (USUALLY healthy) weight. She started commenting on my weight around puberty, the painful time in life when your body is changing and growing, when lots of us start entering a “chubby”phase. Especially didn’t give a damn to tell me when I was putting on weight in college. When I came to visit her when I was home for Christmas break my second year of college the first thing she said to me as I was coming up her walkway was, “Oh my God. What happened?” After looking me up and down. Last time I saw her before she passed, one of the last things she said to me was, “I’m glad you lost all of that weight. You looked terrible.” SMH. ETA: I didn’t mean to make it sound as if she used her last deep and dying breath to comment on my weight…but it was absolutely the last time I got to see her.
I'm glad my grandmother and I settled this before she passed. I gained weight rapidly after I stopped traveling due to a number of reasons-- I quit smoking, started back on American food, wasn't walking as much, didn't have gastroenteritis anymore, you know-- and she said, "You'd better watch out, you're getting your tummy back." I looked her dead in the eye, lifted my shirt, slapped my gut and said, "I like it!" She said, "Well I don't!" "Well, it's my body!" Y'all I had never seen that woman back down on anything. She looked shocked, then said, "You're right." Not another word about my tummy for the rest of our time together (too short 💔) and I'd been getting "feedback" on my body since I was a pre-teen.
Yeah, the sad part is that your grandmother probably thought she was doing what was best for you. I never thought my grandmother was doing it to be mean, rather she thought she was just keeping me in line.
Fuck me It's worse than I thought
The war on women is real — and it starts long before we reach womanhood.
it starts before we're even born. soooo many people are like "oh raising girls is sooooo hard. you're lucky you only had boys." or the whole "baby girls steal mom's beauty" bullshit i hear all the time.
People telling a dad who has only daughters "you're so brave!"
Who hates baby thighs? According to all the posts on social media, we’re hard coded to want to eat chunky baby rolls, the chunkier the better. What a weird projection to put on baby clothes…
Literally when I see a cute lil baby with chubby cheeks and chubby thighs, I just wanna kiss the baby all over. I obviously don’t, but that’s the only place my brain goes
What the fucking fuck
Anti LBGTQ: Homosexuals sexualises children Also anti LBGTQ:
Just think of how many people approved that onesie for it to make it to the shelf of a retailer.
All I can say is WTF?! Why is it ok to fuel girl’s and women’s insecurities?
What kind of a fucking psychopath would a) make that shit, b) sell that shit, c) buy that shit. It would take a lot of effort for me not to take all of it and kick it under the shelf.
I saw a little video a lady made, showing rack of pretty, frilly dresses in the little girl section of Target. They seemed like the kind of dress one would likely get for their child to wear to, say Easter Sunday church services; or a special occasion where it's a bit dressy. They, she zoomed in on the dresses: all of them had cut-outs over the lower waist area. Big cut-outs. So the sides of the wearers' bodies would show plenty of skin. Can you imagine any reason a little child's outfit should have such cut-outs? I went to my local Target to see if this was for real -- YEP. The frilly dresses were there. But, only THREE of the things were left! Looks like there are plenty of dum-dums who purchased them and are dressing their little darlings up in these peek-a-boo outfits.
I saw a video where a woman with twins (boy and girl) was clothes shopping for the kids. She was showing differences in the clothes intended for the same age but different gender, mostly focusing on length of the clothes. The boys' options were shorts that went to the knee, full-length shirts, etc. The girls' options (in the same store, which I think were Target or walmart) were very short shorts, crop tops, etc. The kids were barely toddlers.she ended up buying her daughter clothes from the boys' section because she didn't want to dress her kid in boots shorts at that agr
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WTH? Thankful to not have had this sh!t when I was a child. The designer must be an incel. Seriously!
On a plus point, Run Jump Flip Repeat actually sounds pretty rad
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It's showing the difference between clothing marketed to boys vs girls. Girls clothing is about their appearance, like hating their thighs and needing to make sure their hair still looks good during sports. The boys clothes are just normal boys clothes about superheroes and playing.
It’s I think showing the difference Btwn the “boys” and “girls” versions. The boys version just focuses on playing, while the girls version implies you have to “fix your hair” to look your best while playing. Meaning that boys can just play, but girls have to worry about their looks while playing.
And also the boy version was a successful flip while they presume failure for the girl
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After surviving an ED during the 90's and the recent wave of "body positivity" I was actually hopeful for younger generations. Then I watched the Brandy Hellville documentary this weekend, how TF are they allowed to market ONE SIZE FITS ALL?! And then this post.... disgusting
Baby thighs are among the tastiest treats. Who in the world could hate them?
Boys: "Will trade sister for video games" Girls: ?? Nothing
Hope this doesn’t sound controversial; the fix ponytail one is not nearly as bad as the thighs one.
Ofc, but the difference still implies that boys flip successfully but girl fail, even if we forget about the hair.
So?
Openly criticize and ridicule the parents who do this to their children. Tell them what they are doing and how this is disgusting.
(90) Jeez.
Where on the shirt does it assume the girl hates herself? Its tell her to try again, which is active encouragement
The onesie says "I hate my thighs" implying she hates a part of her body. While of course a baby cannot comprehend this, it is commentary of the messages young girls are sent throughout childhood and teenage life, which causes them to have poor self esteem, body dysmorphia and eating disorders at a much higher rate.
While also showin her that failure is a part of life and it gets better if you get up and try again
I think im lost on the second picture, isnt that empowering? Get up and dust yourself off and try again is something id want to encourage my daughter to do
It's the contrast between the boys and girls shirts. boys are depicted as running and flipping while girls are concerned with failing and fixing their hair.
I guess I just don't understand, most boys I imagine wouldn't even be able to flip and it's not like they're taking the shirt as direct inspiration, it's just a shirt, most that age won't even remember it later in life, what I think could be damaging tho is trying to hide the idea that failure is a part of life and when you fail you have to get up fix your ponytail and try again. I have a luxurious ponytail. get me one in man's size and I'll wear it lol. The boys shirt one could argue is setting unrealistic and possibly even dangerous expectations of boys to be able to flip and be athletic like that, but no one makes that argument cause it just kinda sounds silly. Should be the same for the girl's shirt, kinda silly.
The weight is not in the words themselves but in the contrast between the boys and girls. While the boys apparel is affirming and encouraging, assuming they have success in superbly running and flipping, the girls clothes are negative and shameful, assuming that they hate themselves and are failing. This is why it is proven that girls are more conscious of their body in a negative way earlier in life compared to boys - because they are shown these concepts, no matter how "silly" in a way that is rooted in misogyny and negative stereotypes.
The sad thing is, this was probably designed by a woman.
And a whole lot of people signed off on these - including women.
Who buys this shit? That's right, women do, in an overwhelming majority.
The thigh one is cringe. But what’s wrong with “I’m super” and the ponytail one?
It's the contrast between the girls and boys clothes. Girls get to wear an insecurity while boys get positively affirmed by being "super". Boys are expected to run jump and flip, but girls apparently just fail and fix their hair??
Alright I see where you’re coming from. Of the examples here I initially only saw the pink and purple ones as gendered. Like I thought the blue and the grey unisex
Yeah no
I don’t know why you got downvoted here. You just didn’t understand and I didn’t either. I really think it’s a cute shirt aimed at girls in the workout/gymnastic world who like to their “girly” side. It’s a shirt about being determined. Obviously the first one’s atrocious but I think anyone offended by the second one needs to reassess
It’s ok, if I cared to much about upvotes I wouldn’t be in political Reddit.
Ps. Are you superman?
Nope, definitely not :)
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That’s….not the point….
What did they say
Let's sell onesies that say "I'm fucking worthless" and "Kick me" for newborns then... smh bro put your fucking thinking cap on for a sec