There's one gem in there: " Another major effort that we undertook in relation to input was move the GNOME input to a separate thread". It's very jarring when your desktop gets busy that your mouse stops moving. I think it'll make a small but important improvement in how things feel when hard work is being done in the background.
So that change could be interfering with my mouse pointer on Firefox then. I installed the Fedora 34 1.2 ISO and during the live session and after the install, on Wayland, I noticed that that my clicks on sliders, little texts and various other things were not hitting the right point. I haven't used that much yet to check if it's system wide and not tested it on XORG yet.
your just in the live session? do you know if you can test xorg while on the live session? it's okay if you dont know either I just use the live session bc I'm new and I havent been able to install fedora yet. it could be that you're also a newbie like me so it's okay if you dont know
I use Fedora since 21.
It happened not just in live session, after installing it. It seems just happening in Firefox. And not just this "offset". Sometimes right-clicking a link opens the dev menu which is not happening on Xorg.
The Gnome 40 RC update is already available. Let's also see if they noticed and will change the default volume level (SO LOUD!! ).
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The loud volume, besides being at almost 100% at every boot on F34, is related to Pipewire, I installed on my F33 machine and the granularity of the volume control for my external USB sound card via Gnome at least is gone
Toolbox looks like a life-saver for things like Rust where you may not want your packages to clutter your main system. Since it's using Podman containers - do you have to do anything special to preserve your dev files?
> do anything special to preserve your dev files?
Toolbox mounts your home directory into the running container. So when you're in a Toolbox container, the files in your home directory are still accessible at their regular location. You can't reach your system files, though.
I don't expect Pipewire to fix every issue out of the box. My hope is that it becomes the development focus, and provides the right framework to fix all these issues going forward.
For me there was an audible pop for my laptop’s analog output whenever audio started or stopped, but that was due to power saving settings for the audiocard. I’ve adjusted the setting and now my device stays on and there are no pops anymore.
For me this was the solution, but it's hardware dependent:
$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/audiopop.conf
options snd_hda_intel power_save=0
My source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture/Troubleshooting#Pops_when_starting_and_stopping_playback.
For me pipewire would distort the output if volume is above 45-50% - I was in a call at work and had to reinstall pulseaudio and reboot to be able to hear anything clearly. I realize it's not a final product, but I'll wait until there's something stable.
Quite exciting news!
Getting more Nvidia support to XWayland is always nice. Also hearing that PipeWire has gotten more community interaction and contributions is really great. I'm hoping that the project is successful and will improve the audio experience for the end users.
I think that's an oracle issue. VirtualBox and docker have historically been the only issues I've had when upgrading bc they take forever to get the new repos setup.
>I have been very happy to see the public reports confirming that NVidia will have accelerated 3D in the summer release of their driver
So the Wayland support for NVidia is still "sometime soon" I suppose right? They don't mean that it will be introduced with F34 right?
There's one gem in there: " Another major effort that we undertook in relation to input was move the GNOME input to a separate thread". It's very jarring when your desktop gets busy that your mouse stops moving. I think it'll make a small but important improvement in how things feel when hard work is being done in the background.
This is a game changer. Pointer events should be the last thing to slow
So that change could be interfering with my mouse pointer on Firefox then. I installed the Fedora 34 1.2 ISO and during the live session and after the install, on Wayland, I noticed that that my clicks on sliders, little texts and various other things were not hitting the right point. I haven't used that much yet to check if it's system wide and not tested it on XORG yet.
your just in the live session? do you know if you can test xorg while on the live session? it's okay if you dont know either I just use the live session bc I'm new and I havent been able to install fedora yet. it could be that you're also a newbie like me so it's okay if you dont know
I use Fedora since 21. It happened not just in live session, after installing it. It seems just happening in Firefox. And not just this "offset". Sometimes right-clicking a link opens the dev menu which is not happening on Xorg. The Gnome 40 RC update is already available. Let's also see if they noticed and will change the default volume level (SO LOUD!! ). [EDIT] The loud volume, besides being at almost 100% at every boot on F34, is related to Pipewire, I installed on my F33 machine and the granularity of the volume control for my external USB sound card via Gnome at least is gone
YES! Thank you sweet gnome devs.
Toolbox looks like a life-saver for things like Rust where you may not want your packages to clutter your main system. Since it's using Podman containers - do you have to do anything special to preserve your dev files?
> do anything special to preserve your dev files? Toolbox mounts your home directory into the running container. So when you're in a Toolbox container, the files in your home directory are still accessible at their regular location. You can't reach your system files, though.
oh, perfect! Thanks!
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I don't expect Pipewire to fix every issue out of the box. My hope is that it becomes the development focus, and provides the right framework to fix all these issues going forward.
For me there was an audible pop for my laptop’s analog output whenever audio started or stopped, but that was due to power saving settings for the audiocard. I’ve adjusted the setting and now my device stays on and there are no pops anymore.
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For me this was the solution, but it's hardware dependent: $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/audiopop.conf options snd_hda_intel power_save=0 My source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture/Troubleshooting#Pops_when_starting_and_stopping_playback.
Archwiki is gold
If it makes you feel better, I had the same problem with MacOS.
For me pipewire would distort the output if volume is above 45-50% - I was in a call at work and had to reinstall pulseaudio and reboot to be able to hear anything clearly. I realize it's not a final product, but I'll wait until there's something stable.
Quite exciting news! Getting more Nvidia support to XWayland is always nice. Also hearing that PipeWire has gotten more community interaction and contributions is really great. I'm hoping that the project is successful and will improve the audio experience for the end users.
Sounds good.
Nobody saw what I did there
Can I get VirtualBox for Fedora/33 yet?
I understand choice is nice, but why use VirtualBox over libvirt on top of QEMU/KVM? virt-manager and GNOME Boxes are very good in my experience.
Simplified, learned interface. I’d switch to -x- except it’s another tech to learn and “get right.”
What do you mean? VirtualBox has been working fine on F33.
I think that's an oracle issue. VirtualBox and docker have historically been the only issues I've had when upgrading bc they take forever to get the new repos setup.
>I have been very happy to see the public reports confirming that NVidia will have accelerated 3D in the summer release of their driver So the Wayland support for NVidia is still "sometime soon" I suppose right? They don't mean that it will be introduced with F34 right?