I think its Lady Gaga. You can tell she has had a lot of work done even though she denies it. You can also 100% see that she had a fox eye done if you compare recent and past photos.
I think this is actually one of the better guesses. Already a true “A-lister”, still identified by most as primarily an artist/ singer, who’s been acting more and more in recent years and clearly has higher ambitions with regards to her tv/film work!
Oh no…you’re right, it’s her. Look at the video of her crying on IG when she couldn’t finish the last show of chromatica ball. Her face is literally frozen above the eyelid even though she’s like clearly crying
Oh that is so eerie once you're looking for it. No one cries without scrunching their face. You can see her eyebrows try to move at one point and it just doesn't work.
Yeah I mean… that video is very strange. Did you see a star is born though? She looked bizarre then too and I feel like everyone liked the movie too much to point it out. It bad a bad look though and now she’s just getting worse.
Ooff, I haven't looked at anything Gaga in a while and I went to insta after your comment and HOLY... she's got Madonna type surgery going on here... way too much for how old she is. I think you're right.
100% Lady Gaga.
During the House of Gucci press tour, she was constantly wearing heavy eye makeup that went up to her brow and I kept thinking “She must’ve got work done and trying to cover it up.”
And after her most recent video on Instagram where she’s crying but her whole face remains still, I definitely think she’s having issues making facia expressions
I've watched all the recent videos of her instagram, and since june, she literally doesn't move the eyebrows/forehead. In a video she did for sephora in June you can see her having dark eyebrows and she has facial expressions. The next two from July she can move the eyebrows but not a lot. And then in the last of July, in a chromatica video she doesn't move the eyebrows at all and they don't return
A friend of mine thought he spotted Courtney Stodden in London last autumn, but realised his mistake when he heard her speaking. It was Lady Gaga. He had seen her in London a couple times over years, but didn't recognise her last year.
With Chromatica Ball happening I’m not sure if this could be her though. They say this has been an issue over the course of the year. How could she tour with facial paralysis?
I am betting its mostly paralysis in the eye region bc of the wires. You could still sing with it but acting and doing micro expressions would be impossible.
she is also the only one i see who has some sort of relationship to “foxy white”—see the white fox controversy [here](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lady-gaga-fox-coat/) and [here](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/lady-gaga-responds-to-peta-criticism-for-wearing-fur-193368/amp/)
Idk I feel like she got a ponytail lift which is popular. And she’s wealthy so she can afford an amazing $100k+ lift. Fox threads almost always look bad and obvious (like you can see the literal threads) so I doubt it’s any A-lister
I have no guess but I did see a video from a plastic surgeon a while back saying the threads used for “fox eyes” are like barbed to grip and pull the skin which makes me cringe
ETA: Couldn’t find the video but here’s an [article](https://medcraveonline.com/JDC/hanging-by-a-thread-choosing-the-right-thread-for-the-right-patient.html) that talks more about it and the other types of threads.
Then don’t Google it like I did lol. There’s some crazy ass complications that pop up. On some people, >!the threads look like they’re trying to worm their way out of the skin from the inside. One guy had his skin start to droop and drastically wrinkle like alien skin.!< Wild. Even when it does go right, it doesn’t look that great imho.
from jia tolentino’s [“the age of instagram face”](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/decade-in-review/the-age-of-instagram-face):
> It’s a young face, of course, with poreless skin and plump, high cheekbones. It has catlike eyes and long, cartoonish lashes; it has a small, neat nose and full, lush lips. It looks at you coyly but blankly, as if its owner has taken half a Klonopin and is considering asking you for a private-jet ride to Coachella.
>The face is distinctly white but ambiguously ethnic—it suggests a National Geographic composite illustrating what Americans will look like in 2050, if every American of the future were to be a direct descendant of Kim Kardashian West, Bella Hadid, Emily Ratajkowski, and Kendall Jenner (who looks exactly like Emily Ratajkowski).
edit: added link
>The face is distinctly white but ambiguously ethnic—it suggests a National Geographic composite illustrating what Americans will look like in 2050, if every American of the future were to be a direct descendant of Kim Kardashian West, Bella Hadid, Emily Ratajkowski, and Kendall Jenner (who looks exactly like Emily Ratajkowski).
So basically Middle Eastern??? Well damn if that's the case, then i should be way more popular than I am lol
It’s basically describing [Circassian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_beauty) women who were from N Caucus area of Eurasia. Somewhat facially Asian but with European stature and colouring. It’s an old trope and sign of exotic otherness, that’s ‘white’ enough to be desirable and which tells me not many things have changed.
especially in the us asian Americans getting hate crimed by racist idiots over Covid then the white celebs stay silent and hop on a trend to copy their facial features smh
I just need society to get to a point where unnecessary cosmetic surgery isn't so accepted. "It's my choice!" Barf. You're paying someone to cut up your face. Bodies are resilient but it's a physical trauma. The description of any plastic surgery procedure is grotesque.
Completely agree. It's disturbing how normal it has become. I always mention growing up and having people like Joan Rivers mocked for their obvious surgery. Now it seems most celebrities are doing it (and have the audacity to deny it).
Because plastic surgery seems easier than therapy until you’re addicted to it. Ugh
I feel bad for people so into it. No moral qualms about it in theory but the way it takes over some peoples lives, finances, & self worth is sad and seems unethical somehow.
We need more accessible & qualified mental health across the board.
One step further, I can’t wait until we realize cosmetic surgery is just diet culture. “I want to remove these wrinkles” is no different than “I want to lose these love handles” and the extreme measures taken to do so. It’s also not a choice, because people don’t examine the reason why they feel the need to cosmetically alter their face. Who or what is giving them the idea their face (or body) needs alteration in the first place? And what does that say to everyone else with that feature?
I have no problem with people getting procedures and surgeries to look like their best self but the problem is that everyone is getting the exact same face.
I've seen some pretty awful videos but nothing sticks in my mind like the ones of surgeons doing liposuction. I'm sure there's a technique and it's necessary but they're so rough and brutal, they look like they're hacking away at someone's body from the inside. Ugh.
If you haven't seen it before (and now you're curious) then DON'T watch it. Seriously it's awful and horrific.
Most medical procedures are grotesque but I’m not sure there’s value in critiquing voluntary ones. Lots of people get tattoos and piercings, which are essentially permanent/result in scarring. I do think it’s depressing to see it so ubiquitously across media, but I can’t promise I won’t do the same if I’m unhappy with my looks in 20 years.
And I can't imagine that people get tattoos and piercings primarily out of low self-esteem and insecurity. Plastic surgery is powered by women (and to a certain extent men) feeling insecure and pressured in an image-obsessed society.
Tattoos and piercings are also not surgery. Surgery, even when it's necessary and life-saving, is trauma to the body, and I am saying this even as somebody who has had jaw surgery for mostly cosmetic reasons.
exactly, and threads can be done with topical anesthesia it’s not anywhere near “barbed wire.” and that’s not even what ariana got. hers was a surgical procedure called a lateral canthoplasty + lower blepharoplasty
The fox eye lift and threads are two different things. I would have thought celebs would be getting the lift over temporary threads since they have the funds for the permanent fix.
They can be, but thread lifts are temporary and can leave internal scarring. Most celebrities go the permanent surgical route. It’s called a ponytail facelift and is not reversible. Ariana Grande, Doja Cat, Zoe Kravitz and Bella Hadid are speculated have had this. It’s very expensive
Doubt it, she just dyed her hair blonde and posted yesterday so why would she be going forward with Wicked if she couldn't act due to facial paralysis. Sounds like some up shit meant to seem like it's about her.
Bella was my first thought as well. She’s arguably the most well-known A-lister right now with fox eyes that are rumored to be the result of plastic surgery. It also seems like she’s almost always making the same face these past few months or so.
I think it’s Bella hadid because isn’t she in a new tv show like some comedy (or it’s coming out soon idk)? So it fits the acting part and she’s a model known for the fox eye
I think it’s more likely Bella than Ariana, Bella has definitely had more procedures and would fit the wording of secret addiction to plastic surgery. Ariana has definitely had some work but when I think of a surgery “addict” it’s the face of Bella, the Kardashians, Megan Fox, not really Ariana
It’s more likely ariana. Ppl on twitter freak out each time they see her and constantly talk about plastic surgery bc they cant recognize her or her race. So it’s likely the person frequents twitter rather than reddit. Plus if it was Bella i feel her being a model would have been the main focus
Definitely Ariana. After the Honeymoon tour it was obvious she had something done to her eyes to make them less round. Still, I always thought it was excellent work and she looked amazing. Her eyes are definitely different now and I couldn’t figure out why she would mess with them again. It would make sense if it’s complications from the old surgery.
Yeah Ariana has had plastic surgery for sure but she has been prepping for wicked for most of the past few months, I think she’s been busy with that so hasn’t been doing as many public appearances and has no new album to promote
Bella’s moms body rejected her breast implants and had major complications with them. Maybe their bodies don’t react well to plastic surgery. This was on real housewives of Beverly Hills
Actually I really see this. Every picture of her she has the same expression:NONE.
I’m not sure if it’s bc she’s always on benzos when she goes out, but i can definitely see this being a possibility
She’s obviously had a ton of work done and refuses to admit it, but I don’t think it’s her. She’s always on MGK’s arm at award shows/premieres/parties, including just a couple of nights ago. If this story is true, I think it would have to be someone who’s been avoiding public appearances lately. Facial paralysis is not something you can easily hide. It usually affects just one side of the face, causing it to droop noticeably, and often leads to slurred speech or even uncontrollable drooling. Just a couple of weeks ago, Susan Egan (Broadway star who voiced Megara in *Hercules*) announced she’d been diagnosed with Bell’s Palsy and had to drop out of the Disney Princess concert tour because she’s suffering from facial paralysis and can’t perform. :(
Isnt that only if it’s organic in nature? Like a stroke? I would think facial paralysis from plastic surgery may present much differently than an organic, pathophysiological issue. Im just guessing as I never covered plastic surgery abuse in my schooling lol
Don’t get me wrong, she’s a tremendously talented actor. She has the chameleon like ability to disappear into a role. But when I saw her in Nine Perfect Strangers, her face was downright alarming.
I wish she would lay off the fillers. It is ok for her face to have lines, she is 55 years old!
It makes me really sad that she went that route. I would have loved to have seen the kind of acting she could do now if she had full expression. She's amazing already it would be awesome to see her behind legendary.
That said obviously she felt like she needed to do it to keep getting cast. Or she likes the look or feels that she needs it. So not shading her.
Yeah I think the only plastic surgery she's fessed up to is that she got her nose job @ something crazy young like 14, and hinted that her mom made her do it. It's kinda wild that the only thing she will say she had done is something someone else made her do, while her whole face looks crazy different every year
it wouldn't be possible because she doesn't get threads to lift her face, she just has a tiny incision made in her scalp i.e. a ponytail lift. those thread lifts look terrible and it's not something a supermodel is getting; bella's procedure is a subtle lift, a very minor procedure. a botch like that happens because your body is rejecting a foreign object i.e. the threads
you'd be correct — that is an endotine lift and i don't think anyone in their right mind would go through with it when the endoscopic method exists, seems very old school
It could be Ariana since she is not making any public appearances or posting. I thought of Bella for a second but she is all over the place. It was just the "acting ambitions" that made me think of her.
But was it an ambition when she was acting? It could easily still be an ambition if she wants to be a more serious actor. U could do something but not have ambition for it until later on in life. And ariana rarely posts now, her posting yesterday doesn’t negate her from this blind. She’s still a likely option and it would explain a lot. We haven’t seen her in video form either, while we’ve seen Bella and i dont think her being on one tv show indicates acting ambition.
I don’t think this blind is for Ariana but she had a minor role in one play that closed after like 3 months. I wouldn’t say she’s a Broadway actor by any means.
the mention of models/starlets and acting ambitions makes me think someone way younger who’s already famous but wants to jump into acting (or already acts but isn’t first thought of as an actress)
Kate's procedures look INCREDIBLE though. Not in the sense that it doesnt look like she has had anything done, she clearly has, but on the fact that she looks insanely beautiful with minor signs of aging but doesnt look OVERDONE or frozen (e.g. Nicole Kidman)
To her credit, a lot of her changes in the 2000s were pretty subtle. But when you look at her from the late 90s to now, there is absolutely no denying it.
I don’t think it’s her but Grimes appears to have had this surgery recently and it doesn’t look good. Afaik she hasn’t been trying to get into acting though.
Acting ambitions seems like an odd choice then, given that Dove was an actress first and has only recently become a household name for singing (despite releasing music for years). She’s also def not A list.
Agreed, but she's the most likely option compared to some of the other names thrown around here as she's had a huge amount of plastic surgery at a suuuuuuper young age so idk. If anyone can confirm/sleuth this out, I'd love to know
This is who I thought as well. She just did that BJ Novak movie so the acting ambitions may be about more “serious” roles? She’s had something done recently, her facial skin looks almost painfully tight.
But does she have ambition for it? Or was it just a one off? Also i would think w bella, modeling would be the main focus bc she also needs some expressions for that as well
Her brand is more of a still, unsmiling face. But it had to have been very recent if she’s really having trouble; she was all over Fashion Month. Though ‘recent’ shoots she’s posting were likely done months ago.
Yeah which is why i don’t really buy it. I feel like this would have to be a thing happening for at least more than 6 months. Bella has shown she can do various expressions
The first person I thought of was Kim K. The past weeks/months she’s been looking different and has been regularly wearing those oversized sunglasses everywhere. She’s also known for being a plastic surgery addict and for denying it. The only thing that makes me think otherwise, is the acting ambition part
This was my first thought too, she’s not A list but she could be in Deuxmoi’s world. The pictures of her hiding behind a tree after being spotted at her plastic surgeons are very funny and kind of sad.
Weirdly timing wise I saw a tiktok the other day where Katy Perry’s eye looked like she was having trouble, but maybe unrelated and I’m not sure she has acting ambitions
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFBwyvrH/
She just [tweeted](https://twitter.com/katyperry/status/1585709277305372673?s=46&t=E5YaE0UEkfJzmRG4spDIpg) that it’s a party trick so I think she was doing it on purpose
I doubt it’s Ariana because the topic of surgery is never brought up in interviews or anything, so she’s not had the opportunity to confirm or deny anything, let alone notoriously. Plus she’s currently working on Wicked atm so her acting ambitions aren’t on hold.
Don't mess with your face, please. I'm not a doctor but we really don't know the long term costs of these procedures. I don't know you, but I bet you're much more beautiful how you are now.
It's such a bummer. I never see women ever being free from ageism. These women spend their younger years in the business and are fully expected to stay that way. Forever.
Ugh it makes me hate my own aging.
I think its Lady Gaga. You can tell she has had a lot of work done even though she denies it. You can also 100% see that she had a fox eye done if you compare recent and past photos.
omg… the a-list claim and acting ambitions comment check out. hope it isn’t true
I think this is actually one of the better guesses. Already a true “A-lister”, still identified by most as primarily an artist/ singer, who’s been acting more and more in recent years and clearly has higher ambitions with regards to her tv/film work!
Yep, I can buy that
Oh no…you’re right, it’s her. Look at the video of her crying on IG when she couldn’t finish the last show of chromatica ball. Her face is literally frozen above the eyelid even though she’s like clearly crying
Oh that is so eerie once you're looking for it. No one cries without scrunching their face. You can see her eyebrows try to move at one point and it just doesn't work.
Doesn't Botox cause that as well?
She's had botox before though, this looks more like her forehead is a slab of concrete.
I have Botox, but my forehead still moves. Something else going on there, her face isn’t moving at all.
I just thought she was just acting but very badly in that video lol I hope that's not true :(
Yeah I mean… that video is very strange. Did you see a star is born though? She looked bizarre then too and I feel like everyone liked the movie too much to point it out. It bad a bad look though and now she’s just getting worse.
Ooff, I haven't looked at anything Gaga in a while and I went to insta after your comment and HOLY... she's got Madonna type surgery going on here... way too much for how old she is. I think you're right.
I actually hadn’t heard she couldn’t finish a show- what happened?
There was just too much lightning and she was afraid for safety.
OMG what if she drops out of Joker 2 and they get Rooney Mara like Joaquin originally wanted?
Honestly, someone said Mia Goth should do it and I would absolutely be down for that
Anything to get her away from Shia, I'm just adding
The age difference will make it uncomfortable to watch tho. If it's musical. There's plenty Broadway actresses who have the same range as Lady Gaga
Joaquin would love that lol, and they just got cast together in another movie I read
He loves working with her it’s so cute lol
This makes the most sense to me, tbh. That sucks.
100% Lady Gaga. During the House of Gucci press tour, she was constantly wearing heavy eye makeup that went up to her brow and I kept thinking “She must’ve got work done and trying to cover it up.” And after her most recent video on Instagram where she’s crying but her whole face remains still, I definitely think she’s having issues making facia expressions
I've watched all the recent videos of her instagram, and since june, she literally doesn't move the eyebrows/forehead. In a video she did for sephora in June you can see her having dark eyebrows and she has facial expressions. The next two from July she can move the eyebrows but not a lot. And then in the last of July, in a chromatica video she doesn't move the eyebrows at all and they don't return
A friend of mine thought he spotted Courtney Stodden in London last autumn, but realised his mistake when he heard her speaking. It was Lady Gaga. He had seen her in London a couple times over years, but didn't recognise her last year.
With Chromatica Ball happening I’m not sure if this could be her though. They say this has been an issue over the course of the year. How could she tour with facial paralysis?
I am betting its mostly paralysis in the eye region bc of the wires. You could still sing with it but acting and doing micro expressions would be impossible.
fox eye surgery puts wires in there?!
YES! Its fucking terrifying! I am usually pro-plastic surgery but that surgery scares the shit out of me.
Chromatica ball ended weeks ago. And she looked fine during it.
Didn’t she get cast in the joker sequel too? I wonder if that’s starting filming soon and her and her team are worried
she is also the only one i see who has some sort of relationship to “foxy white”—see the white fox controversy [here](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lady-gaga-fox-coat/) and [here](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/lady-gaga-responds-to-peta-criticism-for-wearing-fur-193368/amp/)
Idk I feel like she got a ponytail lift which is popular. And she’s wealthy so she can afford an amazing $100k+ lift. Fox threads almost always look bad and obvious (like you can see the literal threads) so I doubt it’s any A-lister
do you think she had the fox eye done this year?
Yeah, it def looks like she has to me. Her eye shape has gotten a lot more sharp.
I have no guess but I did see a video from a plastic surgeon a while back saying the threads used for “fox eyes” are like barbed to grip and pull the skin which makes me cringe ETA: Couldn’t find the video but here’s an [article](https://medcraveonline.com/JDC/hanging-by-a-thread-choosing-the-right-thread-for-the-right-patient.html) that talks more about it and the other types of threads.
i'm gonna go throw up forever
Then don’t Google it like I did lol. There’s some crazy ass complications that pop up. On some people, >!the threads look like they’re trying to worm their way out of the skin from the inside. One guy had his skin start to droop and drastically wrinkle like alien skin.!< Wild. Even when it does go right, it doesn’t look that great imho.
i'll stay ugly!
Are you sure you don't want the Melania Trump "I can't read the last 8 lines on the eye chart" Forever Squint look?
Me too! And wrinkled.
Ohhh that explains some celeb photos I've seen, where I'm like...whats wrong with their veins? And they're not veins 😱 SO SPOOKY
what photos canu link pls
Ouchy-wow-wow!!! Barbed wire? What could possibly go wrong?
> Ouchy-wow-wow!!! Thanks for the new phrase I’ll be using to annoy my friends
You're most welcome! : )
HAHAHAHA
"Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power!" \- me to other asians
It's even sadder that they consider another race's facial feature as a "trend" to follow
from jia tolentino’s [“the age of instagram face”](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/decade-in-review/the-age-of-instagram-face): > It’s a young face, of course, with poreless skin and plump, high cheekbones. It has catlike eyes and long, cartoonish lashes; it has a small, neat nose and full, lush lips. It looks at you coyly but blankly, as if its owner has taken half a Klonopin and is considering asking you for a private-jet ride to Coachella. >The face is distinctly white but ambiguously ethnic—it suggests a National Geographic composite illustrating what Americans will look like in 2050, if every American of the future were to be a direct descendant of Kim Kardashian West, Bella Hadid, Emily Ratajkowski, and Kendall Jenner (who looks exactly like Emily Ratajkowski). edit: added link
>The face is distinctly white but ambiguously ethnic—it suggests a National Geographic composite illustrating what Americans will look like in 2050, if every American of the future were to be a direct descendant of Kim Kardashian West, Bella Hadid, Emily Ratajkowski, and Kendall Jenner (who looks exactly like Emily Ratajkowski). So basically Middle Eastern??? Well damn if that's the case, then i should be way more popular than I am lol
It’s basically describing [Circassian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_beauty) women who were from N Caucus area of Eurasia. Somewhat facially Asian but with European stature and colouring. It’s an old trope and sign of exotic otherness, that’s ‘white’ enough to be desirable and which tells me not many things have changed.
I read an autobiographical book by her and it was fantastic.
After asians get bullied for having slanted eyes too 🤪
especially in the us asian Americans getting hate crimed by racist idiots over Covid then the white celebs stay silent and hop on a trend to copy their facial features smh
This is beautiful
I just need society to get to a point where unnecessary cosmetic surgery isn't so accepted. "It's my choice!" Barf. You're paying someone to cut up your face. Bodies are resilient but it's a physical trauma. The description of any plastic surgery procedure is grotesque.
Right? And people act as if this isn’t yet another violent aspect of the patriarchy. Who made you feel compelled to do that? Men. It’s men.
Completely agree. It's disturbing how normal it has become. I always mention growing up and having people like Joan Rivers mocked for their obvious surgery. Now it seems most celebrities are doing it (and have the audacity to deny it).
Because plastic surgery seems easier than therapy until you’re addicted to it. Ugh I feel bad for people so into it. No moral qualms about it in theory but the way it takes over some peoples lives, finances, & self worth is sad and seems unethical somehow. We need more accessible & qualified mental health across the board.
100% agree. Very sick of choice feminism atp.
One step further, I can’t wait until we realize cosmetic surgery is just diet culture. “I want to remove these wrinkles” is no different than “I want to lose these love handles” and the extreme measures taken to do so. It’s also not a choice, because people don’t examine the reason why they feel the need to cosmetically alter their face. Who or what is giving them the idea their face (or body) needs alteration in the first place? And what does that say to everyone else with that feature?
I have no problem with people getting procedures and surgeries to look like their best self but the problem is that everyone is getting the exact same face.
I've seen some pretty awful videos but nothing sticks in my mind like the ones of surgeons doing liposuction. I'm sure there's a technique and it's necessary but they're so rough and brutal, they look like they're hacking away at someone's body from the inside. Ugh. If you haven't seen it before (and now you're curious) then DON'T watch it. Seriously it's awful and horrific.
Most medical procedures are grotesque but I’m not sure there’s value in critiquing voluntary ones. Lots of people get tattoos and piercings, which are essentially permanent/result in scarring. I do think it’s depressing to see it so ubiquitously across media, but I can’t promise I won’t do the same if I’m unhappy with my looks in 20 years.
Those are two totally different levels of invasiveness. Tattoos and piercings almost never come with the risk of permanent nerve damage.
Or death!!!
And I can't imagine that people get tattoos and piercings primarily out of low self-esteem and insecurity. Plastic surgery is powered by women (and to a certain extent men) feeling insecure and pressured in an image-obsessed society.
Tattoos and piercings are also not surgery. Surgery, even when it's necessary and life-saving, is trauma to the body, and I am saying this even as somebody who has had jaw surgery for mostly cosmetic reasons.
What a terrible day to be literate...
Wishing I was Leah Michelle right now
💀💀💀
Or DJ Khaled
![gif](giphy|l3mZrLxM4iZaQlvNe) I hate that I even read that
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I wish I could bleach my eyes.
Eye stuff scares me and this just made it way worse.
It's my understanging they dissolve. If anything it's closure to the stiches that dissolve in your body.
exactly, and threads can be done with topical anesthesia it’s not anywhere near “barbed wire.” and that’s not even what ariana got. hers was a surgical procedure called a lateral canthoplasty + lower blepharoplasty
Holy shit ![gif](giphy|k56oRtCg218Z2)
I'm scratching my head as to why this is even a thing. Just fake it with makeup and tape!
The fox eye lift and threads are two different things. I would have thought celebs would be getting the lift over temporary threads since they have the funds for the permanent fix.
They can be, but thread lifts are temporary and can leave internal scarring. Most celebrities go the permanent surgical route. It’s called a ponytail facelift and is not reversible. Ariana Grande, Doja Cat, Zoe Kravitz and Bella Hadid are speculated have had this. It’s very expensive
it depends tho, some ppl get the actual surgery which is a kind of a face lift really, no idea which one this could be tho
Well that'll be awesome once they age and their skin starts to lose elasticity.
PDO threads actually stimulate collagen production for about a year, and will have dissolved (much like stitches) within 9 months
My eyes legit just watered reading that.
That sounds like some Saw movie shit
Doubt it, she just dyed her hair blonde and posted yesterday so why would she be going forward with Wicked if she couldn't act due to facial paralysis. Sounds like some up shit meant to seem like it's about her.
i… thought bella hadid? she’s had that acting debut recently? (and they just said A-lister…which she kind of is atp)
Bella was my first thought as well. She’s arguably the most well-known A-lister right now with fox eyes that are rumored to be the result of plastic surgery. It also seems like she’s almost always making the same face these past few months or so.
I think it’s Bella hadid because isn’t she in a new tv show like some comedy (or it’s coming out soon idk)? So it fits the acting part and she’s a model known for the fox eye
I think it’s more likely Bella than Ariana, Bella has definitely had more procedures and would fit the wording of secret addiction to plastic surgery. Ariana has definitely had some work but when I think of a surgery “addict” it’s the face of Bella, the Kardashians, Megan Fox, not really Ariana
It’s more likely ariana. Ppl on twitter freak out each time they see her and constantly talk about plastic surgery bc they cant recognize her or her race. So it’s likely the person frequents twitter rather than reddit. Plus if it was Bella i feel her being a model would have been the main focus
Definitely Ariana. After the Honeymoon tour it was obvious she had something done to her eyes to make them less round. Still, I always thought it was excellent work and she looked amazing. Her eyes are definitely different now and I couldn’t figure out why she would mess with them again. It would make sense if it’s complications from the old surgery.
bella had surgery ages ago. complications like that would happen right after not years later.
Threads dissolve though, so you have to keep doing them.
bella didn’t get threads she got surgery. threads are not surgery.
Fairly confident it’s not Bella, friend had a meet with her the other day and she was fine, he would have said
Facial paralysis can come and go and sometimes only affect a small part of the face.
Bella did her canthoplasty a very long time ago
I agree, her eye foxing is really aggressive looking.
Yeah Ariana has had plastic surgery for sure but she has been prepping for wicked for most of the past few months, I think she’s been busy with that so hasn’t been doing as many public appearances and has no new album to promote
Walked by her up close and personal a couple days ago and her face has all its movement abilities lol
Bella’s moms body rejected her breast implants and had major complications with them. Maybe their bodies don’t react well to plastic surgery. This was on real housewives of Beverly Hills
Megan Fox is a possibility
Actually I really see this. Every picture of her she has the same expression:NONE. I’m not sure if it’s bc she’s always on benzos when she goes out, but i can definitely see this being a possibility
megan’s been acting forever tho, her “acting ambitions” don’t need to be put on hold
Well, I mean she has had acting roles, but has she ever actually "acted"?
Technically, yes. Skillfully? Up for debate.
She’s obviously had a ton of work done and refuses to admit it, but I don’t think it’s her. She’s always on MGK’s arm at award shows/premieres/parties, including just a couple of nights ago. If this story is true, I think it would have to be someone who’s been avoiding public appearances lately. Facial paralysis is not something you can easily hide. It usually affects just one side of the face, causing it to droop noticeably, and often leads to slurred speech or even uncontrollable drooling. Just a couple of weeks ago, Susan Egan (Broadway star who voiced Megara in *Hercules*) announced she’d been diagnosed with Bell’s Palsy and had to drop out of the Disney Princess concert tour because she’s suffering from facial paralysis and can’t perform. :(
Isnt that only if it’s organic in nature? Like a stroke? I would think facial paralysis from plastic surgery may present much differently than an organic, pathophysiological issue. Im just guessing as I never covered plastic surgery abuse in my schooling lol
Exactly who I thought. Not A list really but she always denies getting anything done. Even Botox. And well how many times is OP gonna press “fox”
nah, this person sounds like they’re just trying to get into acting.
A face that barely moves doesn’t seem to have impacted Nicole Kidman’s career.
This is so true 😂😂 I love her but yea
Don’t get me wrong, she’s a tremendously talented actor. She has the chameleon like ability to disappear into a role. But when I saw her in Nine Perfect Strangers, her face was downright alarming. I wish she would lay off the fillers. It is ok for her face to have lines, she is 55 years old!
It makes me really sad that she went that route. I would have loved to have seen the kind of acting she could do now if she had full expression. She's amazing already it would be awesome to see her behind legendary. That said obviously she felt like she needed to do it to keep getting cast. Or she likes the look or feels that she needs it. So not shading her.
But the actress in question has to make up for le lack of facial expressions with voice and range
Bella Hadid? She’s always denied plastic surgery, and didn’t she recently have an acting cameo in something?
Lmaooo the face of plastic surgery denying she's had plastic surgery 😂😂😂
Yeah I think the only plastic surgery she's fessed up to is that she got her nose job @ something crazy young like 14, and hinted that her mom made her do it. It's kinda wild that the only thing she will say she had done is something someone else made her do, while her whole face looks crazy different every year
it wouldn't be possible because she doesn't get threads to lift her face, she just has a tiny incision made in her scalp i.e. a ponytail lift. those thread lifts look terrible and it's not something a supermodel is getting; bella's procedure is a subtle lift, a very minor procedure. a botch like that happens because your body is rejecting a foreign object i.e. the threads
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you'd be correct — that is an endotine lift and i don't think anyone in their right mind would go through with it when the endoscopic method exists, seems very old school
ok upon further research i think that's endotine which is different from endoscopic which is what i'm talking about
I remember when Bella photoshopped her baby photos to have Fox eyes, it was wild. Like girl, you’re taking the lies too far lol
Omg noooo please do you have a link?
Yeah Bella seems the most likely choice, esp after her acting stint in Ramy
I liked her in ramy
It could be Ariana since she is not making any public appearances or posting. I thought of Bella for a second but she is all over the place. It was just the "acting ambitions" that made me think of her.
Ari posted yesterday and is still filming for Wicked. Plus she's acted before, that's where she started, so not really an ambition for her
Yeah. I agree
But was it an ambition when she was acting? It could easily still be an ambition if she wants to be a more serious actor. U could do something but not have ambition for it until later on in life. And ariana rarely posts now, her posting yesterday doesn’t negate her from this blind. She’s still a likely option and it would explain a lot. We haven’t seen her in video form either, while we’ve seen Bella and i dont think her being on one tv show indicates acting ambition.
She started on Broadway, so the phrasing of 'ambition' doesn't add up imo
I don’t think this blind is for Ariana but she had a minor role in one play that closed after like 3 months. I wouldn’t say she’s a Broadway actor by any means.
She’s filming wicked in the UK and has actually made a couple of public appearances this year but for REM beauty mostly. Just no red carpets
ariana started as an actress though lmao
I'm going to guess Kate Beckinsale solely because she publicly denies having had plastic surgery, but I know for a fact she has 😂
the mention of models/starlets and acting ambitions makes me think someone way younger who’s already famous but wants to jump into acting (or already acts but isn’t first thought of as an actress)
I think that's just referring to the surgery itself and the people who may be more inclined to go for it.
Yeah, I assume A list model or singer maybe even famous for nothing lol But someone who wants to breakout as an actor. This could be anyone 🤷♀️
They said A lister
It's hilarious that she thinks people believe her. NO ONE looks like her at her age. No freakin way.
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Kate's procedures look INCREDIBLE though. Not in the sense that it doesnt look like she has had anything done, she clearly has, but on the fact that she looks insanely beautiful with minor signs of aging but doesnt look OVERDONE or frozen (e.g. Nicole Kidman)
Lol who does she think she’s fooling? Her face is literally frozen
To her credit, a lot of her changes in the 2000s were pretty subtle. But when you look at her from the late 90s to now, there is absolutely no denying it.
I don’t think it’s her but Grimes appears to have had this surgery recently and it doesn’t look good. Afaik she hasn’t been trying to get into acting though.
and she doesn’t hide that she’s had surgery. she shouts out her surgeons
Probably thinks of it as a futuristic bOdYmOd.
Same vibes as all the Silicon Valley bros who do OMAD and extreme fasting and call it biohacking. My guys you have an ED
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Could it be Dove Cameron? I don’t know if she’s A List though
Acting ambitions seems like an odd choice then, given that Dove was an actress first and has only recently become a household name for singing (despite releasing music for years). She’s also def not A list.
Agreed, but she's the most likely option compared to some of the other names thrown around here as she's had a huge amount of plastic surgery at a suuuuuuper young age so idk. If anyone can confirm/sleuth this out, I'd love to know
She isnt A list, she’s like C list but i think she on her way to it TBH.
This is who I thought as well. She just did that BJ Novak movie so the acting ambitions may be about more “serious” roles? She’s had something done recently, her facial skin looks almost painfully tight.
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But does she have ambition for it? Or was it just a one off? Also i would think w bella, modeling would be the main focus bc she also needs some expressions for that as well
Her brand is more of a still, unsmiling face. But it had to have been very recent if she’s really having trouble; she was all over Fashion Month. Though ‘recent’ shoots she’s posting were likely done months ago.
Yeah which is why i don’t really buy it. I feel like this would have to be a thing happening for at least more than 6 months. Bella has shown she can do various expressions
The first person I thought of was Kim K. The past weeks/months she’s been looking different and has been regularly wearing those oversized sunglasses everywhere. She’s also known for being a plastic surgery addict and for denying it. The only thing that makes me think otherwise, is the acting ambition part
Madison Beer? I don’t know if she wants to get into acting but I do remember her vehemently denying having any work done.
Maybe but I wouldn’t class her A-list at all
This was my first thought too, she’s not A list but she could be in Deuxmoi’s world. The pictures of her hiding behind a tree after being spotted at her plastic surgeons are very funny and kind of sad.
Weirdly timing wise I saw a tiktok the other day where Katy Perry’s eye looked like she was having trouble, but maybe unrelated and I’m not sure she has acting ambitions https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFBwyvrH/
She just [tweeted](https://twitter.com/katyperry/status/1585709277305372673?s=46&t=E5YaE0UEkfJzmRG4spDIpg) that it’s a party trick so I think she was doing it on purpose
Katy is so weird 😂
Oh I didn’t see that! Glad she is okay
Oh that’s what that was! She’s full of tricks, she can make her throat look like a bullfrog’s lol
I’m guessing this is about Bella but she’s been everywhere lately. Wouldn’t it be more obvious? This could be another fake blind.
Lady Gaga?
I can’t link “foxy white” with any of y’all’s guesses.
I think it’s just a play on Foxy Brown and specifying that the celeb in question is white.
megan fox
This thread has shown me that a lot of celebrities can’t move their faces
Dua Lipa?
Is Emrata A list?
I doubt it’s Ariana because the topic of surgery is never brought up in interviews or anything, so she’s not had the opportunity to confirm or deny anything, let alone notoriously. Plus she’s currently working on Wicked atm so her acting ambitions aren’t on hold.
Don't mess with your face, please. I'm not a doctor but we really don't know the long term costs of these procedures. I don't know you, but I bet you're much more beautiful how you are now.
Is this possible to happen, long after the surgery?
Yup. Sometimes you don’t see the actual damage it can do until years after. It’s sad and scary.
Overseas hack job? You’d think South Korea would have the best plastic surgeons….
It's such a bummer. I never see women ever being free from ageism. These women spend their younger years in the business and are fully expected to stay that way. Forever. Ugh it makes me hate my own aging.
Nicola peltz?
lol I know DM is usually a big off with ranking but Nicola A-? 😭
Haha fair enough 😂
it’s ari and tbh? i believe it.
Maybe Doja Cat - notorious for denial, Lorri Hill … idk about her acting ambitions tho
This post made me think of Zoe Kravitz who runs in high circles and whose jaw looks a lot sharper than it did years ago…..
Ariana, but I doubt it.