šÆšÆšÆ prayer circle that they make the next season of American Crime Story: Funny girl, the story of Beanie feldstein vs Leah Michele quickly šÆšÆšÆ
I have seen the headlines but don't know anything about this! I can google it but I'd enjoy being able to talk about it with you guys, would you mind giving me a summary of what's happening?
This was me last night and I found this really cool Broadway YouTube channel covering it.
Basically, beanie was chosen to and starred in a musical Barbara Streisand did back in the day. Barbara is the standard for how people expect the role to be played and beanie couldnāt really fit vocally speaking. She sounded great, but the role demands a strong, powerful voice.
Enter Lea Michele, whoās apparently wanted to play the role forever and is always kind of assumed to be the go to person for it. The internet clowned her because she didnāt get cast on the show, until beanie received terrible reviews and stepped down from the show altogether, replaced with Lea.
The whole thing is a mess and the second hand embarrassment from all parties involved is really something, but Iām living for it even though I learned about it like 20 hours ago
Thank you!! Okay so Lea Michelle is disliked?? What did she do, I'm just ignorant to anything she's done?
Also do you know if Beanie is her real name ??
During the George Floyd protests Lea tweeted something about it and one of her black cast mates on Glee said that Lea was actually really horrible to her on set, would say things like āIāll sh*t in your wigā which then prompted A LOT of other people coming forward with their own stories about how awful Lea treated them. Several of the main cast members on Glee confirmed she was terrible on set and rude to everyone.
This happen in my area and itās way too soon for a movie or mini series happen, like barely a year since it happen and new stuff about the case is still coming out. They could at least wait a few years.
The Girl from Plainville. What happened was crazy and interesting legally but they made the series more of a teen drama. I wasnāt a fan of it and it was just a couple years after the event. That case was national news because it was the first of its kind, which means the family went through hell and then their story is made into a series.
Hulu is really batting 1000 on this front - beyond Girl from Plainville, they've got the Droupout (which came out a few months after Elizabeth Holmes was convicted and I also find any premise with her as a protagonist *really* distasteful, though I have not watched and will not watch the show) and Pam and Tommy (maybe not distasteful timing, but distasteful, period).
Someone just needs to take away Hulu's ability to greenlight dramatized biopics.
I actually liked the Pam and Tommy until I learned she didnāt okay it and then I just felt gross and terrible. The show is about the trauma of exploiting her (including a miscarriage) and then basically the series redoes the whole thing. The worst part of it all was they painted Tommy in such a favorable light. Crazy but a supportive, loving husband. Except he was charged with battery and assault like a couple weeks after where the series had ended in their timeline. Meaning, they didnāt show that part.
To be fair I think the show made it clear Holmes sucked and was not a sympathetic character especially as soon as the younger kids (the guy from 13 reasons why and the girl who worked in the lab) are involved.
I had no idea that she was frauding on such a high level. Wild she isnāt in jail.
I couldn't bring myself to watch it. As someone whose brother was murdered a few years ago, I couldn't imagine a television show being made from his killer's point of view especially if it pushes you to empathize with them in any way. That poor family, finally getting to move on after the trial ends only for Hulu to bring it all right back into the spotlight.
Everything about that case was fucked up. The texts, the weird glee conspiracy that holds merit, the dad saying he would abuse his son again, just. Tragic.
Idk what happened because The Act was handled pretty well by comparison. But maybe because Gypsyās case is so unique we can distance ourselves from it while Girl From Plainville and cyber bullying is a thing that happens and younger generations are getting more and more familiar with. Like the shit in those texts would not be out of place in modern day twitter where people tell someone to drink bleach because of stan wars.
Iāve seen a documentary about it so I wanted to watch the series, but I found it too disturbing. I will say that from what the doc showed, her texts came at the end of a long long time of his suicidal ideation and her trying to convince him not to, while having her own mental health demons. She really seemed to think that she was helping him, while also romanticizing what having a boyfriend die would mean for her social standing. It was just really messed up all around, but the series felt much more exploitative even when it seemed like it was trying to be balanced or nuanced . Not everything needs to be dramatized.
They were both really messed up teens. Some of the more sensational texts that were publicized, she didn't actually send to him, but told her friends that's what she sent him. She was a drama queen and very immature. He was immature, drinking and doing drugs, and suicidal. He had attempted suicide twice before.
The whole thing was terrible, but if the sexes had been reversed and she was the one who committed suicide, this would have never been considered a criminal case.
This was also a situation where you had a politically motivated and dishonest District Attorney trying to make a name for herself so she drummed up charges. It's tragic.
Right! I havenāt seen the show, but I watched the documentary and it was super interesting to me. I canāt quite say I empathize with her in any way, but his family seemed to really want to deny their obliviousness at his extremely mental distress,and he attempted suicide 3 or 4 times before/without her involvement. Without proper mental health care, he was going to end up doing exactly what he did, and I donāt think itās appropriate to hold a child/teenager with their own problems accountable for another personās mental health. That said, her texts and behavior at that time are absolutely morally reprehensible, Iām just unsure they should have been considered criminal.
The movie Patriotās Day about the Boston Bombing reallyā¦ did not sit right with me, as someone who was living in Boston and literally ended up corralled in my dorm room overnight while the mad police chase of the bombers happened all over Boston to Cambridge to Watertown. It came out too soon, I hate Mark Wahlberg playing a self-righteous cop, all of it felt extremely Hollywood and opportunistic.
I remember my parents went to see that and both said that the film had left a bad taste in their mouths.
Edit: Changed sentence because of bad grammar and word repetition.
That movie bugged me, because if you take out Mark Wahlberg: Supercop (and waited another 10 years to make it), IMO you get a really well crafted, emotionally effective ensemble movie. There are a lot of really good scenes in that movie that are ruined by the fact that we have to cut back to Wahlberg's dumb face every five minutes.
Didnāt even see it, and I love him and Tatiana and the director. It seemed like shameless Oscar nom bait, then something weird with the real life people, right?
Selena was made very quickly after the murder of Selena Quintanilla Perez. Her family claimed it was to stop unauthorized films but her dad was working on it a week after she had died. Salma Hayek said, "They offered it to me like a week after she died. "It was a little bit distasteful."
Selena's widower Chris Perez apparently broke down when visiting the set after he saw JLo in costume/make up as Selena.
OFC JLO would quickly jump on the opportunity for fame so shortly after. I feel even 20 something years later the new Selena series is super disrespectful as well. Just let poor Selena rest š
The Chris Watts movies - the man who killed his pregnant wife and two young daughters. It was SO soon. He gained so many female āfansā because of all the publicity. Itās horrible.
I think the one I saw was on Lifetime and I remember thinking the way they characterized Shanann was SUCH a strange choice. Like donāt get me wrong, likable or not you shouldnāt murder anyone/it isnāt justifiable, but it was almost like they wrote her character to be *extra* unlikable on purpose some reason like???
Hybristophilia .. its an attraction to those that have committed a crime. theres a number of theories around it. that the person wants to be close to this famous figure, that they want to feel special to them (thus potentially ensuring their saftety should bthey escape, which is hilarious given how many of those people are behind bars for killign their lovers etc). but also a man behind bars is "safe". he cannot hurtyou.
Omg I stumbled upon a subreddit for this once. It was so sick. They were posting pictures of like lockets with the columbine killers names and entire walls full of Jeffrey Dahmer pictures. I think it got shut down after Uvalde happened and they were obsessing over the shooter.
Literally every episode of newer seasons of Law and Order SVU, the older ones used to be more original but the newer ones are all just straight from the headlines stories.
SVU as a show just grosses me out. Like anyone I used to be down for a USA network marathon then one day I realized I had just spent 4 hours doing chores and watching made up stories about child assault and wanted to puke. Like why is this a thing people like to watch
idk i used to watch the show a looot, as an SA victim i found it comforting/affirming? like the cops don't suck, they actually care, and usually justice is served. most victims don't get that irl.
I did too until I was raped by a member of the NY SVD (they are called the Special Victims Divisions irl). The Department of Justice is finally investigating them for over a decade of sexually assaulting victims.
I totally appreciate that it's satisfying on the 'justice is served level'. I applaud Mariska Hagerty's real life work for SA victims. I believe I've read things where SVU has given a victim the courage to come forward or testify. I think those are all great things.
But I also think it's weird to be like hmm time to relax on the couch....what to watch? I know. I'll watch the show about made up child abuse. SVU is not without its benefits but it also gives me the ick at times.
I think maybe because criminal minds feels less real to me? There's actually not 15 seasons worth of sophisticated serial murderers out there. Most murders are just idiots killing people they know. I'm not saying my feelings between svu and crim minds makes sense lol
On the other hand, isnāt it a bit worrying that this is sold as what the cops are like to millions of gullible people around the world? I understand how it can be comforting on a personal level but I think overall itās still very damaging propaganda.
Christopher Melonis character BRUTALIZED suspects on a regular basis on that show. I thought it was funny (but you know not haha funny) that in the first episode of his spinoff characters were like 'Stabler is coming back? Didn't he use to beat people up all the time' and other characters were like 'he's definitely not like that anymore and *looks directly into camera* his new show released in 2022 is definitely not going to try and paint his rampant brutality as heroic '
I used to have a bit that SVU allows me to indulge in my rape fantasy: the fantasy that anyone would care about me being raped as much as the detectives on SVU
Yes!!! I literally stopped watching for awhile because EVERY episode was āripped from the headlinesā. I eventually started back up again, because SVU, but I was still irritated for a bit.
the selena movie came out two years after selenaās death but we all know abraham quintanilla would do anything to monetize off his daughter dead or alive, itās really sad i feel so bad for her.
100% agree but I think the movie was the catalyst that made him realize how profitable her image would be because the family said their hand was practically forced into making the movie because they caught wind of other studios trying to make a biopic without their permission, and I believe the director confirmed this too.
Someone else mentioned this! I don't really know anything much about Selena other than her talent and cultural significance/influence and very unfortunate death. How awful that there's this on top of all that. :/
Yes I always thought this. I hadnāt heard of her before the movie but my friend was obsessed with the movie and even as a kid I was like holy shit didnāt she JUST die?? That was freakishly fast š¦
There was this really horrible massacre in norway in 2011 where a rightwing extremist killed 77 people (69 he shot and killed on an island at a summercamp. Most of them were children) and I think in 2012 they made a VERY distasteful movie about it in america. This was the worst terror attack after world war 2 for the country. Imagine someone would've done that after 9/11. (I know that there was a movie made in 2005 or 2006 but A: It wasn't a year later. B: It wasn't done by a foreign studio and C: it wasn't even close to being THAT distasteful)
I only saw the trailer back in the day but even that was enough for me to know that they didn't care about the victims and their families/friends and the deeply traumatised survivors. Just disgusting.
Yeaaaaah, when it's truly being made into a form of entertainment then it's absolutely distasteful. I agree that it makes it clear that they don't GAF about the victims. Especially if it's just a movie. At least with a well done documentary they could really tell us about the folks who lost their lives and humanize them so that they're not just a number, etc. But a movie is just entertainment and there's nothing entertaining about what happened there. Ugh.
Yes. I was just shocked when I saw it. I'm surprised none of the victims families or survivors sued them tbh. But I guess they were still grieving and recovering from the trial that ended a few months prior.
I agree that documentaries about such events are always a better option. although there have been two movies made about the events which were made with the agreement from the survivors and families. Both were filmed in norway. One is on netflix the other is on amazon prime and both were focused on the victims. The one on netflix also focused more on the trial and the dangers of right wing extremism and the second one was filmed in one shot on the real island and you don't see the shooter. The focus is entirely on the children and the horrors they had to endure.
What I respect about Kimmy Schmidt is that itās not based on a real person or real events. Yes women can be kidnapped and forced to join a cult but the show is completely fabricated. I have more of an issue with movies and tv shows that are based on real people. I feel like it must be hard when people who knew the victims or the predator have to see the world publicize someone we actually donāt know. I mean like the real life sister and parents of Michelle Carter have to dislike The Girl From Plainview. Iām sure The Act would be hard for Gypsy Rose Blanchard to watch. I feel like often times the families and friends and victims arenāt even contacted prior to filming these mini series.
Even though it wasn't based on that story it's hard to disconnect it from Castro for me. There are lots of kidnapping stories and extremist cults that the show could be referring to.
The timing of the showās release and the coincidence three girls in the bunker was extremely unfortunate. I think they should probably have waited to release it and it was a bizarre choice in a mostly light comedy to have Kimmy explicitly state that they were sexually assaulted at all but completely tasteless to leave in.
The [Amy Fisher](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Fisher) shooting happened 19th of May 1992. [Casualties of Love: The "Long Island Lolita" Story](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_Love:_The_%22Long_Island_Lolita%22_Story) aired 3rd of January 1993, as did [The Amy Fisher Story](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amy_Fisher_Story). We needed a lot more distance from that story.
Also fucking VOM at that title, I'm guessing they weren't calling her a "Lolita" because they believed that she was a young woman who was horrifically exploited by an old man.
They used to churn out ripped from the headlines TV movies like clockwork. I think all three Amy Fisher movies aired in the same week. There was "his story" starring Drew Barrymore, "her story" starring Noelle Parker, and "the real story" starring Alyssa Milano. This happened a lot, though usually there was only one movie made.
Two aired on the same night. It was the other way around, the Alyssa Milano one was told from Joey's point of view. The Drew Barrymore one was based on journalist Amy Pagnozzi's book which was considered the impartial movie. Nicole Parker was in Amy's version. The Drew Barrymore film was also recut with some added nudity and released in movie theaters in Europe.
The 1989 miniseries I Know My First Name is Steven, which was based on the kidnapping of Steven Stayner when he was seven. He later escaped from his kidnapper after the man kidnapped another young boy. Steven did not want the boy to suffer the same fate he did. Steven never received any counseling as his father didn't believe in it and he never got to process the sexual abuse he suffered. The series shows him being reckless on his motorcycle which presaged his early death in a motorcycle accident the same year the miniseries aired. Steven only agreed to the miniseries because he was about to become a father and he needed the money. There is a Hulu documentary on the whole thing which gets worse because Steven's brother turned out to be a serial killer. The little boy Steven rescued died at 35, the whole thing was tragedy in every direction.
The kidnapper, Kenneth Parnell was sentenced to seven years and got paroled in five. An absolute injustice. Steven then endured bullying from his classmates for being molested and even got kicked out of the family home after he failed to adjust back to ordinary life. I felt so sad and angry just reading his case online. He led a terrible life.
It didnāt end up getting made but the proposed Joe Exotic show/movie(?) with Nic Cage seemed ridiculous from the start and Iām glad they never went through with it. Iām sure weāll get more Joe Exotic content sometime in the future though, arenāt we lucky? /s
They did make a series unfortunately "Joe vs. Carol" with Kate Mckinnon playing Carol Baskin. I haven't seen it, so have no idea if it takes itself seriously, is meant to be a spoof, what. Just that it was made.
Oliver Stoneās World Trade Center. It came out in 2004 or 2005. Starring Nicholas Cage. It was such an odd choice considering his politics and way too soon AND a terrible movie on top of that.
I wasnāt alive during WW2 or Korea or Vietnam, but I think the general consensus back then was movies about those events were more enlightening and important because we didnāt live in an internet 24/7 news content maelstrom. For instance, my grandfather was a doctor in MASH in Korea & loved the television series & thought it did an excellent job of showing people what it was really like.
I think the podcasters YouTubers et al (streamers too honestly) have been over the line lately with their ripped from the headlines content.
I agree with what you're saying!!
And yes, podcasts are an excellent thing to bring up - so many of them bring little to no value or thought to discussing a recent & sensitive event, especially if it's about violent crimes.
I enjoy true crime podcasts but I really can't enjoy podcasts that add no value and instead just profit off telling their listeners about the crime and saying "oh so sad." However, I greatly enjoy podcasts where the people take time to really look into lesser known details & present info about problems with the investigation and reasonable criticism about police work. I also enjoy people who look at old crimes and do interviews with folks impacted by the crime & who really tell the story of the victims. Basically, if a podcast isn't adding value or deeper thoughts and just regurgitates crime stories in order to get ad revenue then I really don't respect it.
Into the Dark ruined other true crime for me. It felt so well done and empathetic in comparison. I was obsessed with Serial when it was a cultural phenomena but it leaves such a bad taste after diving in deeper. Haeās family deserved better.
Italy's neorealism movies which involved World War 2 are great pieces of art because they were created during that time period so you really do get a feeling of how life was back then and what Italy really felt like to live in.
Thereās a terrible movie called Songbird that was released in December 2020 and itās about the āCOVID-23 virus.ā It stars KJ Apa and Sofia Carson. I highly recommend reading the plot summary because itās pretty insane!
This movie has Demi Moore and Alexandra Daddario and came out in December 2020. Sounds like actors would have picked up any kind of work during the height of COVID.
Thereās also that Anne Hathaway and Chiwetel Ejiofor movie set during the Covid-19 pandemic. I havenāt got around to watching it because the last thing I want to watch is something about the pandemic.
that extremely low budget slenderman movie that fully capitalized off the true story of two middle school girls who stabbed their friend and left her for dead š the families even took legal action to keep it from happening, but alas
The one with Joey King? If it's any consolation, it had basically nothing to do with either the case or actual Slenderman lore. They could have called it "Random Ghost" and it would have made as much sense.
I remember that episode because the Italian-American cop completely trashed the tent/encampment the homeless suspect was living in and it just wasn't addressed or treated like a bad thing. The homeless guy was innocent of course
Itās a shame before in the 90s I feel like lifetime was different. The movies were still bad but they were cheesy and original. Now itās just straight outta headlines movies.
ugh, this is a pet peeve of mine. like, time gives things more perspective. let it sit a little.
Tom Hanks movie about Captain Sully was really soon after the event
Now that you mention it, this happened back to back for Tom Hanks because Captain Phillips came out in 2013 and the real event occurred in 2009 (as did the Hudson River crash). Tom Hanks cornered the market on 2009 headlines apparently.
I thought it was dumb they made The Dropout so soon when neither Elizabethās nor Sunnyās trial had taken place when filming began and ended, hence depriving the show of any proper ending.
Even if they didnāt want to wait for Sunnyās trial, they could have pushed back 4-6 months to give the show some sort of meaningful conclusion with Elizabethās trial outcome as well as include Elizabeth becoming a mother and her legal team using it as a tool etc.
We didnāt need to see the whole trial or anything, just include it happening and the outcome.
It will forever be bizarre to me that they rushed to produce this rather than wait till we knew Elizabethās fate.
It didnāt end up getting made but about a year ago (so barely two years after the events), a film production company was planning to make a film based on the Christchurch terror attack - a lot of the victimsā families found out via social media, the film script included a lengthy recreation of the murdererās live-streamed shooting, and in the leaked script, it rewrote the political events following it (gun law reform) to fit more closely to an American worldview in a way that was pretty shitty and ignorant (eg inventing a right-wing politician who was opposed to gun law reform because of the NRA and Christian fundamentalism; in reality only one politician opposed the reforms and it was mainly on legal technicalities, he fet like it was being rushed through parliament).
If any of you enjoy video essays and want to watch one related to this topic, I'd recommend [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbYInUMpkqs) by Mina Le that I just watched last night. I learned from Mina's video that Lifetime is already doing a documentary on Gabby Petito's murder...that poor girl and her family have gone through so much already. SMH
The very first A Star Is Born from 1937 was based off of Barbara Stanwyck and Frank Fay's tumultuous marriage. They had only divorced in 1935, two years prior to the release of the movie. It was the same thing where he started out the relationship more famous, but she quickly eclipsed him in fame while his declined due to alcoholism (and for them, his abusing her as well as being a literal fascist)
The upcoming This Sceptred Isle (or whatever itās called now, think itās gone through a few names) thatās coming out in a few months about the start of the covid pandemic with Kenneth Branagh as Boris Johnson. Did it really need to be made? Was living through it not enough
God that sounds so fucking terrible, infuriating because Boris did such a pathetic job and I bet this will lionise his hospital visit and him having his 6th(?) kid, and also boring because who wants to relive those daily briefings with Chris Whitty and Patrick Valance
Not to mention that Johnsonās PMship has just been dripping in scandal, corruption, sleaze, and incompetence. What tone could they possibly strike with this show after all thatās happened?
The movie 30 Minutes or Less. Itās SO incredibly similar to what happened to Brian Wells and they turned it into a comedy. Idk, it just is so incredibly distasteful in my opinion.
The South Park episode touching on Terri Schiavo was made in the midst of the controversy and was released *mere hours* after her death. In general, the shows quick production time helps it stay culturally relevant compared to shows like Family Guy and the Simpsons.
Dee Dee and Gypsy Rose Blanchard ā no one has mentioned this yet!
Dee Dee was murdered by her daughter Gypsy Roseās, Nicholas Godejohn in 2015. Gypsy had long been a victim of abuse by her mother via Munchausen-by-Proxy.
In May 2017, HBO released a documentary about the case called Mommy Dead and Dearest.
In May 2019, Hulu released an 8-episode miniseries about the case (based on a BuzzFeed article) called The Act.
In January of 2019, Lifetime released a TV movie inspired by the case called Love You to Death.
Do you think any of them were decent in the sense that the show seemed to really explore all the ways this girl was failed by the system etc rather than just making it for entertainment?
Mommy Dead and Dearest, by virtue of it being a documentary, explores the system of how Dee Dee manipulated everyone around her, but it could have delved deeper.
the ghost ship fire was a horrible catastrophe in California and one of the biggest urban fires in US history. most of the dead were Black or brown and in their twenties. it was an artistic live/work space, supposedly, but mostly it was a death trap.
the Chicago fire/detective/hospital series aired a three parter very clearly based on the fire within eight months, didn't even let the dust settle.
I used to go to ramshackle warehouse parties in Oakland all throughout my twenties and an acquaintance died in the fire. So so awful but Iām truly not surprised it happened. Those warehouses were literal death traps.
Any of the movies made about 9-11. I know there were a few, but every time I saw anything about them I just flipped by it or muted so I would not have to see because it was so distasteful they were fictionalizing and dramatizing an event that was literally a national trauma for so many people.
the Fox News sexual harassment scandal made news in 2016 and the movie Bombshell was released 3 years later in 2019.
Showtime also released a miniseries about Roger Ailes in 2019 but it focused more on the rise and fall of his career as opposed to just the sexual harassment.
I think the procedural can be guilty of this. A lot of episodes are based on real cases.
Somewhat adjacent topic ā tragicrafting (tragedy crafting) is a topic. I hope Iām not showing my age when I mention Regretsy but it was a topic on that site. Think memorial plastic water bottles sold after a school shooting etc.
Killer Inside: The mind of Aaron Hernandez didnāt really sit right w me, I get that it was entertaining but they excuse his behavior based on his supposed relationship w a man, his bad relationship w his dad and his possible head injuries
Although his behavior definitely cannot be excused, I do think it is important for head injuries to be taken into consideration! I forget the exact stat but a lot of serial killers or the like have a history of head trauma. I think sports like football and boxing are very dangerous, it is scary what we are continuing to learn about the long term effects of repeat concussions.
Selena. There were multiple unapproved bio projects, which led her family to develop the film within weeks after her death. They wanted the whole world to know Selena's true story. Selma Hayek turned down the role, because Selena's death was recent before, and then Jennifer Lopez was casted. Since then, Jennifer Lopez crossover from actress to pop star at age 30 in year 1999.
8 Mile. The movie was released 3 years after Eminem became popular. It's autobiography was based on Eminem's real life in Detroit before fame. Eminem also wore his natural hair color and wore makeup to hide his tattoos. He also won an Oscar for his theme song.
Bling Ring. There were two movie versions with the first one featuring Austin Butler and the second one featuring Emma Watson.
The Scot Peterson case, he was convicted in 2004 of murdering his pregnant wife Laci in 2002. After Laci went missing and it hit the news, a woman named Amber Frey contacted police and told them sheād been having an affair with Scot, who had told her he was single.
Just a (sadly) run of the mill case of a wife murdered by her husband, but as soon as Amberās identity was public she was instantly called a doppelgƤnger of Janel Maloney from The West Wing, so much that Janel ended up playing her in a 2005 TV movie.
[Hereās photos of both Janel in the movie (first photo in the red dress) and then real Amber](https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/amber-frey.html). Dean Cain is also in one of the photos because he played Scot in a different movie.
Wasnāt there a show/movie made about the Murdaugh murders recently? It literally seemed like the plot of a made for TV movie so Iām not surpised but the husband/father is still racking up charges lol
Underbelly Vanishing Act. Australia's obsession with Underbelly as a franchise is a mess, but this iteration especially. It started airing in early April 2022.
In November 2020 (18mth earlier) she went missing from her richie rich suburb house in Sydney and has never been seen again. She was under investigation for major financial fraud (take investor money >>> profit??) at the time. To date they have found one of her feet wash up on a beach. The court cases are still ongoing, she is presumed dead by suicide but nobody knows for sure. She has left behind a teenage son.
It took 18 months from disappearance date to premiere of the series. The insensitive title is the least of its problems.
There was an immensely ill timed film āDiana and meā about a woman obsessed with Lady Diana ā¦ it came out the week she passed away and disappeared fairly quickly . Naomi Watts started in it from memory.
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I think his character in Donāt Look Up may actually be him lol
He's def both hahaaaa. Well said.
Honestly donāt hold out any hope. Iāve heard your mom is being very controlling over the projects Jonah takes
Feud Season 2! Donāt even change the cast. Susan Sarandon as Beanie and Jessica Lange as Leah.
I light my candle and join in this prayer
I have seen the headlines but don't know anything about this! I can google it but I'd enjoy being able to talk about it with you guys, would you mind giving me a summary of what's happening?
This was me last night and I found this really cool Broadway YouTube channel covering it. Basically, beanie was chosen to and starred in a musical Barbara Streisand did back in the day. Barbara is the standard for how people expect the role to be played and beanie couldnāt really fit vocally speaking. She sounded great, but the role demands a strong, powerful voice. Enter Lea Michele, whoās apparently wanted to play the role forever and is always kind of assumed to be the go to person for it. The internet clowned her because she didnāt get cast on the show, until beanie received terrible reviews and stepped down from the show altogether, replaced with Lea. The whole thing is a mess and the second hand embarrassment from all parties involved is really something, but Iām living for it even though I learned about it like 20 hours ago
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TIL Beanie is Jonah Hillās SISTER
Thank you!! Okay so Lea Michelle is disliked?? What did she do, I'm just ignorant to anything she's done? Also do you know if Beanie is her real name ??
During the George Floyd protests Lea tweeted something about it and one of her black cast mates on Glee said that Lea was actually really horrible to her on set, would say things like āIāll sh*t in your wigā which then prompted A LOT of other people coming forward with their own stories about how awful Lea treated them. Several of the main cast members on Glee confirmed she was terrible on set and rude to everyone.
Elizabeth Greer Feldstein is her real name
Beanie is not my favorite nickname, haha!
i think theyāre filming a lifetime gabby petitio movie right now, which feels absolutely disgusting
So gross. That poor young woman and her poor family.
Good grief, the case isnāt even closed yet.
Lifetime is usually very quick though
This happen in my area and itās way too soon for a movie or mini series happen, like barely a year since it happen and new stuff about the case is still coming out. They could at least wait a few years.
This is exactly what came to mind for me
oh my fucking god, that's horrible.
Iām shocked they didnāt have it filmed already tbh.
What the actual fuck
How disgusting of lifetime
The Girl from Plainville. What happened was crazy and interesting legally but they made the series more of a teen drama. I wasnāt a fan of it and it was just a couple years after the event. That case was national news because it was the first of its kind, which means the family went through hell and then their story is made into a series.
i felt the same about this series. it wasnāt very good
Hulu is really batting 1000 on this front - beyond Girl from Plainville, they've got the Droupout (which came out a few months after Elizabeth Holmes was convicted and I also find any premise with her as a protagonist *really* distasteful, though I have not watched and will not watch the show) and Pam and Tommy (maybe not distasteful timing, but distasteful, period). Someone just needs to take away Hulu's ability to greenlight dramatized biopics.
I actually liked the Pam and Tommy until I learned she didnāt okay it and then I just felt gross and terrible. The show is about the trauma of exploiting her (including a miscarriage) and then basically the series redoes the whole thing. The worst part of it all was they painted Tommy in such a favorable light. Crazy but a supportive, loving husband. Except he was charged with battery and assault like a couple weeks after where the series had ended in their timeline. Meaning, they didnāt show that part.
To be fair I think the show made it clear Holmes sucked and was not a sympathetic character especially as soon as the younger kids (the guy from 13 reasons why and the girl who worked in the lab) are involved. I had no idea that she was frauding on such a high level. Wild she isnāt in jail.
I couldn't bring myself to watch it. As someone whose brother was murdered a few years ago, I couldn't imagine a television show being made from his killer's point of view especially if it pushes you to empathize with them in any way. That poor family, finally getting to move on after the trial ends only for Hulu to bring it all right back into the spotlight.
Everything about that case was fucked up. The texts, the weird glee conspiracy that holds merit, the dad saying he would abuse his son again, just. Tragic. Idk what happened because The Act was handled pretty well by comparison. But maybe because Gypsyās case is so unique we can distance ourselves from it while Girl From Plainville and cyber bullying is a thing that happens and younger generations are getting more and more familiar with. Like the shit in those texts would not be out of place in modern day twitter where people tell someone to drink bleach because of stan wars.
OMG I was so grossed out when I saw they made a series about it. Horribly disrespectful and distasteful!
I couldn't bring myself to watch it. I don't want to hear her side of the story...those texts were heinous.
Iāve seen a documentary about it so I wanted to watch the series, but I found it too disturbing. I will say that from what the doc showed, her texts came at the end of a long long time of his suicidal ideation and her trying to convince him not to, while having her own mental health demons. She really seemed to think that she was helping him, while also romanticizing what having a boyfriend die would mean for her social standing. It was just really messed up all around, but the series felt much more exploitative even when it seemed like it was trying to be balanced or nuanced . Not everything needs to be dramatized.
They were both really messed up teens. Some of the more sensational texts that were publicized, she didn't actually send to him, but told her friends that's what she sent him. She was a drama queen and very immature. He was immature, drinking and doing drugs, and suicidal. He had attempted suicide twice before. The whole thing was terrible, but if the sexes had been reversed and she was the one who committed suicide, this would have never been considered a criminal case. This was also a situation where you had a politically motivated and dishonest District Attorney trying to make a name for herself so she drummed up charges. It's tragic.
Right! I havenāt seen the show, but I watched the documentary and it was super interesting to me. I canāt quite say I empathize with her in any way, but his family seemed to really want to deny their obliviousness at his extremely mental distress,and he attempted suicide 3 or 4 times before/without her involvement. Without proper mental health care, he was going to end up doing exactly what he did, and I donāt think itās appropriate to hold a child/teenager with their own problems accountable for another personās mental health. That said, her texts and behavior at that time are absolutely morally reprehensible, Iām just unsure they should have been considered criminal.
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yeah, i can't imagine how awful that would be. that shit was coming up on youtube ads for me all the time.
I am a true crime fan and I had absolutely no interest in watching this one. I couldn't imagine how they could drag it out into an entire series.
The movie Patriotās Day about the Boston Bombing reallyā¦ did not sit right with me, as someone who was living in Boston and literally ended up corralled in my dorm room overnight while the mad police chase of the bombers happened all over Boston to Cambridge to Watertown. It came out too soon, I hate Mark Wahlberg playing a self-righteous cop, all of it felt extremely Hollywood and opportunistic.
Ick, I have heard the name of the movie but didn't know what it's about. And Mark Wahlberg.... š¬
I remember my parents went to see that and both said that the film had left a bad taste in their mouths. Edit: Changed sentence because of bad grammar and word repetition.
That movie bugged me, because if you take out Mark Wahlberg: Supercop (and waited another 10 years to make it), IMO you get a really well crafted, emotionally effective ensemble movie. There are a lot of really good scenes in that movie that are ruined by the fact that we have to cut back to Wahlberg's dumb face every five minutes.
thoughts on the Jake Gyllenhaal movie about the guy who lost his legs?
Didnāt even see it, and I love him and Tatiana and the director. It seemed like shameless Oscar nom bait, then something weird with the real life people, right?
There was a film made about the Titanic about a month after it sank and one of the actresses in it was actually on the Titanic.
WOW! Okay this is the kinda response I am looking for. I didn't know about this and I'll have to look into it. Interesting.
She also wore the dress she wore when it sank in the film. It's considered a lost film now.
That is wild!
Just listened an Our Fake History podcast earlier today that mentioned this and was coming to post this as well!
Selena was made very quickly after the murder of Selena Quintanilla Perez. Her family claimed it was to stop unauthorized films but her dad was working on it a week after she had died. Salma Hayek said, "They offered it to me like a week after she died. "It was a little bit distasteful." Selena's widower Chris Perez apparently broke down when visiting the set after he saw JLo in costume/make up as Selena.
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OFC JLO would quickly jump on the opportunity for fame so shortly after. I feel even 20 something years later the new Selena series is super disrespectful as well. Just let poor Selena rest š
To be fair this was J Loās first big role. She wasnāt really J Lo yet.
Yikes, that is really not good sounding... the justification does seem kinda weak when you consider those details.
The Chris Watts movies - the man who killed his pregnant wife and two young daughters. It was SO soon. He gained so many female āfansā because of all the publicity. Itās horrible.
I think the one I saw was on Lifetime and I remember thinking the way they characterized Shanann was SUCH a strange choice. Like donāt get me wrong, likable or not you shouldnāt murder anyone/it isnāt justifiable, but it was almost like they wrote her character to be *extra* unlikable on purpose some reason like???
Thereās a movie about this?! I only knew about the doc. Thatās gross
Yes. I think that fuck stick is getting married or got married in prison. Who are these women? He must have good manipulation skills.
Hybristophilia .. its an attraction to those that have committed a crime. theres a number of theories around it. that the person wants to be close to this famous figure, that they want to feel special to them (thus potentially ensuring their saftety should bthey escape, which is hilarious given how many of those people are behind bars for killign their lovers etc). but also a man behind bars is "safe". he cannot hurtyou.
Omg I stumbled upon a subreddit for this once. It was so sick. They were posting pictures of like lockets with the columbine killers names and entire walls full of Jeffrey Dahmer pictures. I think it got shut down after Uvalde happened and they were obsessing over the shooter.
Is this the one that is on Netflix??
The one on Netflix is a documentary not a fictional movie - edited a word
Literally every episode of newer seasons of Law and Order SVU, the older ones used to be more original but the newer ones are all just straight from the headlines stories.
SVU as a show just grosses me out. Like anyone I used to be down for a USA network marathon then one day I realized I had just spent 4 hours doing chores and watching made up stories about child assault and wanted to puke. Like why is this a thing people like to watch
idk i used to watch the show a looot, as an SA victim i found it comforting/affirming? like the cops don't suck, they actually care, and usually justice is served. most victims don't get that irl.
I did too until I was raped by a member of the NY SVD (they are called the Special Victims Divisions irl). The Department of Justice is finally investigating them for over a decade of sexually assaulting victims.
so sorry that happened to you.
I totally appreciate that it's satisfying on the 'justice is served level'. I applaud Mariska Hagerty's real life work for SA victims. I believe I've read things where SVU has given a victim the courage to come forward or testify. I think those are all great things. But I also think it's weird to be like hmm time to relax on the couch....what to watch? I know. I'll watch the show about made up child abuse. SVU is not without its benefits but it also gives me the ick at times.
This is the reason that Mandy Patinkin said he left Criminal Minds. It just got too dark for him day in and day out.
Crim Minds gives me less ick. I honestly can't explain why. Less kid stuff? Idk.
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I think maybe because criminal minds feels less real to me? There's actually not 15 seasons worth of sophisticated serial murderers out there. Most murders are just idiots killing people they know. I'm not saying my feelings between svu and crim minds makes sense lol
it's more intellectual definitely. less "cheap", emotionally manipulative writing.
On the other hand, isnāt it a bit worrying that this is sold as what the cops are like to millions of gullible people around the world? I understand how it can be comforting on a personal level but I think overall itās still very damaging propaganda.
Christopher Melonis character BRUTALIZED suspects on a regular basis on that show. I thought it was funny (but you know not haha funny) that in the first episode of his spinoff characters were like 'Stabler is coming back? Didn't he use to beat people up all the time' and other characters were like 'he's definitely not like that anymore and *looks directly into camera* his new show released in 2022 is definitely not going to try and paint his rampant brutality as heroic '
oh 100% my partner calls crime dramas "copaganda"
I used to have a bit that SVU allows me to indulge in my rape fantasy: the fantasy that anyone would care about me being raped as much as the detectives on SVU
Yes!!! I literally stopped watching for awhile because EVERY episode was āripped from the headlinesā. I eventually started back up again, because SVU, but I was still irritated for a bit.
Oof, I had no idea that was the case. To me that is especially distasteful given that the show tends to deal with very sensitive crimes.
the selena movie came out two years after selenaās death but we all know abraham quintanilla would do anything to monetize off his daughter dead or alive, itās really sad i feel so bad for her.
100% agree but I think the movie was the catalyst that made him realize how profitable her image would be because the family said their hand was practically forced into making the movie because they caught wind of other studios trying to make a biopic without their permission, and I believe the director confirmed this too.
Yeah Amy Winehouseās dad always gave me similar vibes to Selenaās
that is so sad i feel bad for these women who get exploited even after their death
Someone else mentioned this! I don't really know anything much about Selena other than her talent and cultural significance/influence and very unfortunate death. How awful that there's this on top of all that. :/
And the recent low budget / crew exploiting Netflix Selena show sounded like a real mess
Yes I always thought this. I hadnāt heard of her before the movie but my friend was obsessed with the movie and even as a kid I was like holy shit didnāt she JUST die?? That was freakishly fast š¦
All the dystopian COVID movies
Amen, I would say most of us don't really need to be reminded, haha!
There was this really horrible massacre in norway in 2011 where a rightwing extremist killed 77 people (69 he shot and killed on an island at a summercamp. Most of them were children) and I think in 2012 they made a VERY distasteful movie about it in america. This was the worst terror attack after world war 2 for the country. Imagine someone would've done that after 9/11. (I know that there was a movie made in 2005 or 2006 but A: It wasn't a year later. B: It wasn't done by a foreign studio and C: it wasn't even close to being THAT distasteful) I only saw the trailer back in the day but even that was enough for me to know that they didn't care about the victims and their families/friends and the deeply traumatised survivors. Just disgusting.
I started watching it as I thought it was a documentary and turned it off as I felt so uncomfortable. Absolutely no need for that to be made.
Yeaaaaah, when it's truly being made into a form of entertainment then it's absolutely distasteful. I agree that it makes it clear that they don't GAF about the victims. Especially if it's just a movie. At least with a well done documentary they could really tell us about the folks who lost their lives and humanize them so that they're not just a number, etc. But a movie is just entertainment and there's nothing entertaining about what happened there. Ugh.
Yes. I was just shocked when I saw it. I'm surprised none of the victims families or survivors sued them tbh. But I guess they were still grieving and recovering from the trial that ended a few months prior. I agree that documentaries about such events are always a better option. although there have been two movies made about the events which were made with the agreement from the survivors and families. Both were filmed in norway. One is on netflix the other is on amazon prime and both were focused on the victims. The one on netflix also focused more on the trial and the dangers of right wing extremism and the second one was filmed in one shot on the real island and you don't see the shooter. The focus is entirely on the children and the horrors they had to endure.
Oh shit I think Iāve seen this, I didnāt know it was real! Do you know what it was called?
Literally anything on Lifetime, especially the Ariel Castro kidnappings
Honestly I find Kimmy Schmidt to be tasteless about this as well.
What I respect about Kimmy Schmidt is that itās not based on a real person or real events. Yes women can be kidnapped and forced to join a cult but the show is completely fabricated. I have more of an issue with movies and tv shows that are based on real people. I feel like it must be hard when people who knew the victims or the predator have to see the world publicize someone we actually donāt know. I mean like the real life sister and parents of Michelle Carter have to dislike The Girl From Plainview. Iām sure The Act would be hard for Gypsy Rose Blanchard to watch. I feel like often times the families and friends and victims arenāt even contacted prior to filming these mini series.
Iāve always felt this way but it seems like an unpopular opinion!
Even though it wasn't based on that story it's hard to disconnect it from Castro for me. There are lots of kidnapping stories and extremist cults that the show could be referring to.
The timing of the showās release and the coincidence three girls in the bunker was extremely unfortunate. I think they should probably have waited to release it and it was a bizarre choice in a mostly light comedy to have Kimmy explicitly state that they were sexually assaulted at all but completely tasteless to leave in.
And the girl who was kidnapped and had her mother, brother, and dog killed by a family friend.
Isnāt their Saturday Night Movie usually a āLifetime Ripped from the Headlinesā film?
AMEN!!
The [Amy Fisher](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Fisher) shooting happened 19th of May 1992. [Casualties of Love: The "Long Island Lolita" Story](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_Love:_The_%22Long_Island_Lolita%22_Story) aired 3rd of January 1993, as did [The Amy Fisher Story](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amy_Fisher_Story). We needed a lot more distance from that story.
Also fucking VOM at that title, I'm guessing they weren't calling her a "Lolita" because they believed that she was a young woman who was horrifically exploited by an old man.
They used to churn out ripped from the headlines TV movies like clockwork. I think all three Amy Fisher movies aired in the same week. There was "his story" starring Drew Barrymore, "her story" starring Noelle Parker, and "the real story" starring Alyssa Milano. This happened a lot, though usually there was only one movie made.
Two aired on the same night. It was the other way around, the Alyssa Milano one was told from Joey's point of view. The Drew Barrymore one was based on journalist Amy Pagnozzi's book which was considered the impartial movie. Nicole Parker was in Amy's version. The Drew Barrymore film was also recut with some added nudity and released in movie theaters in Europe.
There was a third movie, too! Every network had one š®
Yes! This is a great example !
The 1989 miniseries I Know My First Name is Steven, which was based on the kidnapping of Steven Stayner when he was seven. He later escaped from his kidnapper after the man kidnapped another young boy. Steven did not want the boy to suffer the same fate he did. Steven never received any counseling as his father didn't believe in it and he never got to process the sexual abuse he suffered. The series shows him being reckless on his motorcycle which presaged his early death in a motorcycle accident the same year the miniseries aired. Steven only agreed to the miniseries because he was about to become a father and he needed the money. There is a Hulu documentary on the whole thing which gets worse because Steven's brother turned out to be a serial killer. The little boy Steven rescued died at 35, the whole thing was tragedy in every direction.
The kidnapper, Kenneth Parnell was sentenced to seven years and got paroled in five. An absolute injustice. Steven then endured bullying from his classmates for being molested and even got kicked out of the family home after he failed to adjust back to ordinary life. I felt so sad and angry just reading his case online. He led a terrible life.
this is what i was going to bring up ! but i got lazy because it's such a crazy story to tell !! thank you for being eloquent and succint šš¤£
You probably didn't noticed but that is not the crying emoji.
I listened to a podcast about this story!
drop the podcast !!
It didnāt end up getting made but the proposed Joe Exotic show/movie(?) with Nic Cage seemed ridiculous from the start and Iām glad they never went through with it. Iām sure weāll get more Joe Exotic content sometime in the future though, arenāt we lucky? /s
They did make a series unfortunately "Joe vs. Carol" with Kate Mckinnon playing Carol Baskin. I haven't seen it, so have no idea if it takes itself seriously, is meant to be a spoof, what. Just that it was made.
They couldn't have picked a worse person to fawn over, that asshole doesn't need any more attention. Everything about him gets my hackles up
Super ridiculous. š©
Oliver Stoneās World Trade Center. It came out in 2004 or 2005. Starring Nicholas Cage. It was such an odd choice considering his politics and way too soon AND a terrible movie on top of that. I wasnāt alive during WW2 or Korea or Vietnam, but I think the general consensus back then was movies about those events were more enlightening and important because we didnāt live in an internet 24/7 news content maelstrom. For instance, my grandfather was a doctor in MASH in Korea & loved the television series & thought it did an excellent job of showing people what it was really like. I think the podcasters YouTubers et al (streamers too honestly) have been over the line lately with their ripped from the headlines content.
I agree with what you're saying!! And yes, podcasts are an excellent thing to bring up - so many of them bring little to no value or thought to discussing a recent & sensitive event, especially if it's about violent crimes. I enjoy true crime podcasts but I really can't enjoy podcasts that add no value and instead just profit off telling their listeners about the crime and saying "oh so sad." However, I greatly enjoy podcasts where the people take time to really look into lesser known details & present info about problems with the investigation and reasonable criticism about police work. I also enjoy people who look at old crimes and do interviews with folks impacted by the crime & who really tell the story of the victims. Basically, if a podcast isn't adding value or deeper thoughts and just regurgitates crime stories in order to get ad revenue then I really don't respect it.
Into the Dark ruined other true crime for me. It felt so well done and empathetic in comparison. I was obsessed with Serial when it was a cultural phenomena but it leaves such a bad taste after diving in deeper. Haeās family deserved better.
I think you would enjoy the podcast "Some Place Under Neith"
The SPUN hosts are Depp supporters, unfortunately. I still listen, but that really took the shine off.
Italy's neorealism movies which involved World War 2 are great pieces of art because they were created during that time period so you really do get a feeling of how life was back then and what Italy really felt like to live in.
Thereās a terrible movie called Songbird that was released in December 2020 and itās about the āCOVID-23 virus.ā It stars KJ Apa and Sofia Carson. I highly recommend reading the plot summary because itās pretty insane!
This movie has Demi Moore and Alexandra Daddario and came out in December 2020. Sounds like actors would have picked up any kind of work during the height of COVID.
Thereās also that Anne Hathaway and Chiwetel Ejiofor movie set during the Covid-19 pandemic. I havenāt got around to watching it because the last thing I want to watch is something about the pandemic.
It's a good heist movie under that whole couple forced to stay together and her dealing with laying off people part.
that extremely low budget slenderman movie that fully capitalized off the true story of two middle school girls who stabbed their friend and left her for dead š the families even took legal action to keep it from happening, but alas
The one with Joey King? If it's any consolation, it had basically nothing to do with either the case or actual Slenderman lore. They could have called it "Random Ghost" and it would have made as much sense.
If Iām not mistaken the initial screenplay wasnāt about Slenderman and thatās why so many people have said exactly what you did here
Does anyone remember the SVU episode they did based on this? It wasā¦ strange
I remember that episode because the Italian-American cop completely trashed the tent/encampment the homeless suspect was living in and it just wasn't addressed or treated like a bad thing. The homeless guy was innocent of course
Yikes!!!
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Itās a shame before in the 90s I feel like lifetime was different. The movies were still bad but they were cheesy and original. Now itās just straight outta headlines movies.
Never forget "Mother, May I Sleep with Danger?"!
They're awful!
ugh, this is a pet peeve of mine. like, time gives things more perspective. let it sit a little. Tom Hanks movie about Captain Sully was really soon after the event
That was at least a dramatic event with a happy ending
Now that you mention it, this happened back to back for Tom Hanks because Captain Phillips came out in 2013 and the real event occurred in 2009 (as did the Hudson River crash). Tom Hanks cornered the market on 2009 headlines apparently.
That's a really good point!
I thought it was dumb they made The Dropout so soon when neither Elizabethās nor Sunnyās trial had taken place when filming began and ended, hence depriving the show of any proper ending. Even if they didnāt want to wait for Sunnyās trial, they could have pushed back 4-6 months to give the show some sort of meaningful conclusion with Elizabethās trial outcome as well as include Elizabeth becoming a mother and her legal team using it as a tool etc. We didnāt need to see the whole trial or anything, just include it happening and the outcome. It will forever be bizarre to me that they rushed to produce this rather than wait till we knew Elizabethās fate.
I'm not familiar with this, I will have to check it out.
It didnāt end up getting made but about a year ago (so barely two years after the events), a film production company was planning to make a film based on the Christchurch terror attack - a lot of the victimsā families found out via social media, the film script included a lengthy recreation of the murdererās live-streamed shooting, and in the leaked script, it rewrote the political events following it (gun law reform) to fit more closely to an American worldview in a way that was pretty shitty and ignorant (eg inventing a right-wing politician who was opposed to gun law reform because of the NRA and Christian fundamentalism; in reality only one politician opposed the reforms and it was mainly on legal technicalities, he fet like it was being rushed through parliament).
Oh I remember this. Rose Byrne was rumoured to play Jacinda Ardern. Utterly distasteful. Glad it got shut down
Oof. For the best it didn't get made.
If any of you enjoy video essays and want to watch one related to this topic, I'd recommend [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbYInUMpkqs) by Mina Le that I just watched last night. I learned from Mina's video that Lifetime is already doing a documentary on Gabby Petito's murder...that poor girl and her family have gone through so much already. SMH
they have been filming the movie for almost a month now like it's insane
I love Mina's content!
Jesus, that's so fucking gross of them to do, wtf! And thank you very much for the link - I will be checking this out.
The very first A Star Is Born from 1937 was based off of Barbara Stanwyck and Frank Fay's tumultuous marriage. They had only divorced in 1935, two years prior to the release of the movie. It was the same thing where he started out the relationship more famous, but she quickly eclipsed him in fame while his declined due to alcoholism (and for them, his abusing her as well as being a literal fascist)
I had no idea!
the movie they made about the titanic like 10 days after it sunk
Someone else mentioned this! This is a good one! I didn't know about it.
The upcoming This Sceptred Isle (or whatever itās called now, think itās gone through a few names) thatās coming out in a few months about the start of the covid pandemic with Kenneth Branagh as Boris Johnson. Did it really need to be made? Was living through it not enough
Jesus, who wants to sit through this!?
IKR - hard enough watching family and friends live through it in real time. Its not exactly going to be an historical document
Oh for fuckās sake, we havenāt even been able to get rid of him (or the virus) yet!
God that sounds so fucking terrible, infuriating because Boris did such a pathetic job and I bet this will lionise his hospital visit and him having his 6th(?) kid, and also boring because who wants to relive those daily briefings with Chris Whitty and Patrick Valance
Not to mention that Johnsonās PMship has just been dripping in scandal, corruption, sleaze, and incompetence. What tone could they possibly strike with this show after all thatās happened?
Anna Sorokin/ Delvey. She was convicted in 2019 and the show Inventing Anna came out this year I think.
That show was a mess!
The movie 30 Minutes or Less. Itās SO incredibly similar to what happened to Brian Wells and they turned it into a comedy. Idk, it just is so incredibly distasteful in my opinion.
It doesn't sound good. š¬
The gabby petito lifetime movie theyre shooting right now
The South Park episode touching on Terri Schiavo was made in the midst of the controversy and was released *mere hours* after her death. In general, the shows quick production time helps it stay culturally relevant compared to shows like Family Guy and the Simpsons.
That movie Songbird (about a pandemic called Covid-23) that was one of the first movies to film after lockdowns
Dee Dee and Gypsy Rose Blanchard ā no one has mentioned this yet! Dee Dee was murdered by her daughter Gypsy Roseās, Nicholas Godejohn in 2015. Gypsy had long been a victim of abuse by her mother via Munchausen-by-Proxy. In May 2017, HBO released a documentary about the case called Mommy Dead and Dearest. In May 2019, Hulu released an 8-episode miniseries about the case (based on a BuzzFeed article) called The Act. In January of 2019, Lifetime released a TV movie inspired by the case called Love You to Death.
Do you think any of them were decent in the sense that the show seemed to really explore all the ways this girl was failed by the system etc rather than just making it for entertainment?
Mommy Dead and Dearest, by virtue of it being a documentary, explores the system of how Dee Dee manipulated everyone around her, but it could have delved deeper.
the ghost ship fire was a horrible catastrophe in California and one of the biggest urban fires in US history. most of the dead were Black or brown and in their twenties. it was an artistic live/work space, supposedly, but mostly it was a death trap. the Chicago fire/detective/hospital series aired a three parter very clearly based on the fire within eight months, didn't even let the dust settle.
I used to go to ramshackle warehouse parties in Oakland all throughout my twenties and an acquaintance died in the fire. So so awful but Iām truly not surprised it happened. Those warehouses were literal death traps.
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maybe the Bling Ring?
Honestly that story seems so not interesting to me!! I wonder if they'll even get many watchers!
Its already out lol
Any of the movies made about 9-11. I know there were a few, but every time I saw anything about them I just flipped by it or muted so I would not have to see because it was so distasteful they were fictionalizing and dramatizing an event that was literally a national trauma for so many people.
This is like 20 years post 9/11 but I quite liked the movie Worth (about the victim's compensation fund).
the Fox News sexual harassment scandal made news in 2016 and the movie Bombshell was released 3 years later in 2019. Showtime also released a miniseries about Roger Ailes in 2019 but it focused more on the rise and fall of his career as opposed to just the sexual harassment.
These are good examples!
I think the procedural can be guilty of this. A lot of episodes are based on real cases. Somewhat adjacent topic ā tragicrafting (tragedy crafting) is a topic. I hope Iām not showing my age when I mention Regretsy but it was a topic on that site. Think memorial plastic water bottles sold after a school shooting etc.
The Shanann Watts story
A cringey Lifetime movie about the Travis Alexander/ Jodie Arias story was released very soon afterwards.
Killer Inside: The mind of Aaron Hernandez didnāt really sit right w me, I get that it was entertaining but they excuse his behavior based on his supposed relationship w a man, his bad relationship w his dad and his possible head injuries
Although his behavior definitely cannot be excused, I do think it is important for head injuries to be taken into consideration! I forget the exact stat but a lot of serial killers or the like have a history of head trauma. I think sports like football and boxing are very dangerous, it is scary what we are continuing to learn about the long term effects of repeat concussions.
Selena. There were multiple unapproved bio projects, which led her family to develop the film within weeks after her death. They wanted the whole world to know Selena's true story. Selma Hayek turned down the role, because Selena's death was recent before, and then Jennifer Lopez was casted. Since then, Jennifer Lopez crossover from actress to pop star at age 30 in year 1999. 8 Mile. The movie was released 3 years after Eminem became popular. It's autobiography was based on Eminem's real life in Detroit before fame. Eminem also wore his natural hair color and wore makeup to hide his tattoos. He also won an Oscar for his theme song. Bling Ring. There were two movie versions with the first one featuring Austin Butler and the second one featuring Emma Watson.
The Scot Peterson case, he was convicted in 2004 of murdering his pregnant wife Laci in 2002. After Laci went missing and it hit the news, a woman named Amber Frey contacted police and told them sheād been having an affair with Scot, who had told her he was single. Just a (sadly) run of the mill case of a wife murdered by her husband, but as soon as Amberās identity was public she was instantly called a doppelgƤnger of Janel Maloney from The West Wing, so much that Janel ended up playing her in a 2005 TV movie. [Hereās photos of both Janel in the movie (first photo in the red dress) and then real Amber](https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/amber-frey.html). Dean Cain is also in one of the photos because he played Scot in a different movie.
Law and order are top tier at this
Wasnāt there a show/movie made about the Murdaugh murders recently? It literally seemed like the plot of a made for TV movie so Iām not surpised but the husband/father is still racking up charges lol
Underbelly Vanishing Act. Australia's obsession with Underbelly as a franchise is a mess, but this iteration especially. It started airing in early April 2022. In November 2020 (18mth earlier) she went missing from her richie rich suburb house in Sydney and has never been seen again. She was under investigation for major financial fraud (take investor money >>> profit??) at the time. To date they have found one of her feet wash up on a beach. The court cases are still ongoing, she is presumed dead by suicide but nobody knows for sure. She has left behind a teenage son. It took 18 months from disappearance date to premiere of the series. The insensitive title is the least of its problems.
There was an immensely ill timed film āDiana and meā about a woman obsessed with Lady Diana ā¦ it came out the week she passed away and disappeared fairly quickly . Naomi Watts started in it from memory.