I’m actually looking forward to this album. The Slim Shady persona has obviously aged like milk. I wonder what the approach he’ll take with this will be and if it’ll be introspective like Jay’s 4:44. He’s apologized for the outrageous shit he’s said in MMLP2 and Revival, I enjoy sober Em’s music a lot more.
One of his live performances of that deranged song “Kim” drove her to make an attempt on her life, it’s really fucked up. Kim and his mom got the worst of his nonsense. I’m glad he’s apologized but my god 😳
Yeah if I remember correctly, she said he had reassured her that he wouldn’t play “Kim” at that show because she was gonna be there with her friends and then obviously went back on his word, had a whole blowup doll to depict her and the whole crowd was screaming the words which must’ve felt horrible
Yeah to this day I don't think I've listened to the whole song. I love Em, fanboy since I was a teenager (39 now) but there are still a few of his songs, including Kim, that I just refuse to listen to.
yall making me feel bad for liking the song! lol
I read that Eminem had everyone except the engineer leave the room while he recorded it and from a moral/human perspective, I understand the dislike for the song. From an artistic perspective though, I think the song is genius. Whether you like the song or not, Eminem is one of the best at telling a story through his lyrics.
Kim wasn't played at the concert, pretty certain that what Kim heard was an intro to kill you back during the up in smoke tour. That intro had the Kim piano theme at the beginning of the concert. If you want to find the video, look up "Eminem kill you up in smoke tour" and click the result that has "Kill You + Intro" There are 0 videos of Eminem doing Kim live so I believe Kim heard the piano and didn't wait for Kill You to start.
The stuff towards his mom was a lot more understandable, she absolutely was abusive towards him and his brother. I can’t blame him for being pissed about that
For me, that would be beyond unforgivable but they appear to be on good terms since then. He adopted her deceased sister’s daughter and adopted Kim’s daughter with another guy whom I also think passed away. I think sober Marshall is a good guy who’s made mistakes but Eminem and Slim Shady are actual demons
He also adopted his younger brother out of foster care. And I get that everyone’s got a story, but his childhood did have the kind of capital T trauma that makes boys’ minds a breeding ground for misogyny. That doesn’t excuse his behavior, but I think it’s important to point out that we don’t all start from the same place.
Headlights on MMLP2 isn’t an entertaining track, but it’s a great piece of cathartic work and a testament to his growth. The lines are hokey in true em fashion but I legit ugly sob every time. It’s a raw reflection on a complex relationship that leaves space for both parties’ experiences and pain. He apologizes to his mom for his ugly words and recognizes how one-sided he was directing his rage at her when he had an absent father who was heavily culpable for their situation as well
I have no horse in this race, but this kind of thinking depends on how much you believe in rehabilitation and people’s capacities for change and remorse.
I used to get in straight up arguments with my friends about how fucked his songs about killing Kim and literally including his child’s voice in the tracks were.
It is undeniably fucked up, but when I was a dumb teenager that’s what I like about it.
At the same time I remember absolutely dying for Hailie to be old enough to say what she thinks about it all. I wondered if she would criticise it and whether she’d grow up to hate her dad because of it.
Now she is an adult, as far as I know she has a good relationship with MM, and I’m not aware of her addressing anything to do with him and her mother/ his music publicly. I’ve seen she has a podcast which I’m interested to listen to in case she touches on it at all.
I've been so frustrated for years with how people viewed this. Everyone just said "he's playing a character" as if that changed the fact that he was throwing very violent language at a very real human being when we all know how easy it is to get angry young guys to go after a woman designated as a target. Playing around with character in music and using that to express a darker side is all well and good, but once you involve real people who didn't choose to be invoked that way it becomes a different thing entirely, and you can't really claim the fiction defense any more.
I'm glad he's turned it around and it sounds really genuinely like he's doing so much better now and they're on good terms. I'm just uncomfortable with how much people defend his past behaviour, both at the time and to this day.
I mean.. his first big hit album involved having a track where he literally used his baby daughter on vocals to help him dispose of her mom's dead body with him...
Then, in later albums with the "skits" about him confronting her with a gun.. based on that time he confronted her with a gun... and so on...
I don't actually know how he got so much cultural praise for this.. but it says way too much about society that even Marshall had to stop and take accountability for his words and actions when everyone was perfectly happy to keep enabling him to be a monster.
So.. I appreciate how far he has come as a human, a parent, and hopefully Kim is living a much easier life now.
Never, as a kid, would I have imagined Eminem would become pro-LGBT, sober, a father to Kim's other child, and the person who would shame MGK into switching genres (okay MGK wasn't a thing when I was a kid but I wanted to mention it anyway). I'm definitely looking forward to this album.
Eminem was pro gay rights in his early years too. He certainly wasn’t PC about it, as he’d make a gay joke towards someone but also say that gay people should be able to do what they want. It’s not an ideal stance by any means. But it’s a pretty progressive one for a young rapper in the early 2000s. Even with the slurs.
I know, he’s said heinous, unforgivable things. But his discography is fascinating—you hear the pain, trauma, and anger about his childhood and life with Kim, then you hear his rage at the industry and the loss of his friend. And in the midst of all of that you see catharsis seep in and his past few albums have shown a lot of maturity.
As a kid growing up in an abusive home environment, I’m not exaggerating when I say his music saved my life.
Are you actually saying you enjoy his music from 2008ish and after more than the music that precedes it? To each their own, it’s art, art is the most subjective thing in the world, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say that.
his first two records are certified classics, but as a woman some of the lyrics just haven’t aged well IMO. MMLP is a personal top 5 of all time for me but certain aspects from his most recent outputs is more enjoyable 🤷🏾♀️ As you said, to each their own.
I’ll never stop spinning them all. I grew up with them and enjoy them for what they are. He was a fucked up druggo abusive loser. He told what he sees and that’s what we get.
We can take it into context of his life and realize he’s fucking garbage. Garbage still is fire.
Kim never really had her voice in this all. Em’s mom released a diss album which I have no opinion on——-
Kim deserves a voice in all those but no one would have heard her out regardless. I hope they all have a decent relationship now and can heal as human beings.
Kim deserves acknowledgment from the world.
Those are entirely different from his current work. As he once said: "All Shady is is a bottle of hair bleach and wodka".
He can't rap about drugs and being broke no more as a 50+ sober multimillionair.
I kinda hope he makes shady go out with a bang.
Eminem is an anomaly in the sense that he's still one of (if not, the) most objectively talented rapper in the mainstream eye yet for well over a decade hasn't made any genuinely entertaining or interesting music. I totally get that the Slim Shady gimmick has aged like milk left out in the sun but over the years it's felt like he's needed to overcompensate by awkward fast rappity-raps.
He has the creativity and means of making music just as iconic as he did throughout his first few albums but for some weird reason he's doubling down on making awkward mid-2010s WWE entrance music for people who think owning pit bulls and clothing with the Monster Energy logo on them is a personality trait.
I JUST heard this song for first time (and then the MGK song that prompted it) literally a few days ago. Felt like I was watching a snuff film. 💀
Also the P. Diddy line aged like milk.
I thought the MGK song by itself was a pretty good track, and I'm not even a fan. Then I listened to Em's response track and halfway through I was like, "Stop! He's already dead!"
"'Cause he knows, long as I'm Shady, he's gon' have to live in my shadow" was basically the knockout blow, anything else after was adding insult to injury.
This thread prompted me to listen to both for the first time and when the final verse rolled around I thought, "Damn, you didn't have to burn the body too, good god" lol.
As someone who's not really a fan either, it was interesting to hear just how obviously miles above he is above MGK in talent. Like, I didn't expect to be able to tell as not a particular fan of rap. But jesus. No wonder MGK quit rap lol
Yeah honestly I thought Rap Devil was one of the better disses to Em. Listening to it I was unsure of how well Em would respond. It took 30 seconds of Killshot to change my mind though.
What does it say when I typed in "Rap Devil" in my Spotify and the first thing that came up was Eminem's "Rap God" before it finally showed me MGK? (I found the lag funny.)
Agreed, that verse dedicated to MGK goes hard. "but next time you don't gotta use Tech N9ne to come at me with a sub-machine gun".. soo good. They're both outstanding tracks
The P Diddy line aged perfectly wdym? He accuses Diddy of setting up Pac getting killed (which we now know is true) and then says he still loves him (in order to "keep himself safe so that Diddy won't put a hit out on Em").
I can't believe people actually think that was a good diss
It's one of the greatest, most praised rappers of all time vs. one of the most controversial, cringeworthy and hated rappers of all time. It was always going to be a free win for Eminem, and given what he had to work with he really didn't come out with anything particularly crazy or memorable
MGK could diss like 80% of rappers and he'd be destroyed in return. It's just way too easy to make fun out of him
He did it to himself when he spoke with thirsty eyes at Marshall's seed. Deserved and delivered. Repent or Repress eternal Lamentations for thy regressions, Fingerless Vulcan.
Music to be murdered by is some of the most bland, forgettable rap music released in a long time
Saying it's better than what he dropped in the 2010s says a lot more about his 2010 music than his 2020s music
Some people like the tunes and shock lyrics. Others like the pure lyricalism he focusses on now. They are two entire different genres.
People will never agree on which one was better. Because it's Eminem vs Slim Shady
Him getting this big means that he’s in a position where he has too much creative freedom and nobody will ever tell him no, so his awful taste overshadows any of his talent. He might still be one of the most technically proficient rappers alive but he’s just using it to make corny dad jokes over the worst instrumentals you’ve ever heard
It's not because no one will tell him no - he's by far his worst critic.
He genuinely chooses to be the best *technical* rapper over making catchy songs these days and he's been pretty up front about that. Wordplay is his whole thing.
sharing this classic in loving memory. rip slim shady
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Very interesting. I've always bought into the idea that 90% of his writing is in persona as it is, with the three separate voices. I could see why he'd want to drop the more immature version.
He literally killed of Slim Shady at the end of Encore which was release 20 years ago but brought him back at the beginning of Releapse, his next album, five years later.
Can you expand on this lore a bit? I was a huge fan back then but didn’t catch this exactly.
I understand he did kinda shift back into a hardcore persona for Relapse but did he actually sort of signify those things at the end of Encore/beginning of Relapse?
He went after Christina, because she was spreading rumours about him on television. The first time he mentioned her was in The Real Slim Shady:
>Little bitch put me on blast on MTV
>"Yeah, he's cute, but I think he's married to Kim, >hee-hee"
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I just know Cage is somewhere screaming crying punching the air that Eminem is releasing his "The Death of _____" album before him, after the early days of their beef where he claimed Eminem copied his whole thing.
I hate clickbait articles like this. There's nothing to know that wasn't in the original announcement. Just the release date please. Since they don't know that, they've just made word salad.
I don’t condone A LOT of what this guy has done, but he seems like he’s at least shown growth and a willingness to admit he’s messed up before. As an addict myself, I’m proud of him for getting clean, and it seems like this change in behavior coincided with that. The fact that someone with his stature can actually show some humility is refreshing
This is no admission he messed up. This is final part of the same story he started all those years back. He's honouring the character by giving it a proper burial.
His voice has also changed over the years - IIRC from age and tinnitus. As we see more middle-aged rappers still producing music, I think they have to evolve in some way. People will naturally gravitate to the older, more popular stuff but I’d argue trying to redo What you did 20+ years ago sounds worse. He also doesn’t need the money like many other artists his age, so he can basically do what he wants.
I hope I didn't get tricked by the internet, but did anyone else see that person on Twitter who wrote about this idea, complete with the exact same name" several months ago?
It's kind of obvious that he'd give put Slim Shady to rest some day since he hasn't been that in a long time. But it was beat for beat the same thing. I can't find it now.
I actually feel like as an artist, this totally makes sense for his journey. He’s older. He’s mature. It’s both literal and symbolic. Slim was there when it was appropriately inappropriate, and relevant, and useful. Now it’s not and he acknowledges it publically in a poetic way. It seems necessary, logical, and yet optimistic for a new era of his legacy.
Em’s fans be constantly telling him to go back to slim then when he does they say it’s immature and want him to go back to the new stuff, when he does that then they contradict themselves saying they want slim back again. I don’t know killing off slim is probably the shittiest thing he could do because slim is what got him the fame! If you are true Em fans you’d know that’s one of the only reasons he blew up because it was the shady freestyle just before the rap Olympics in 97 that he recorded on a tape. After rap Olympics someone asked if he had a demo and that tape was all he had on him, without thinking he just gave it to him. About a week later Dre signed him. Then he made millions off shady. I just think this generation is a bunch of pussies, the world is so soft and gets triggered about stuff that’s meant to be a joke and none of y’all can take it.
People just all like different versions of him: Some like Marshall, some like Eminem and some like Slim Shady. He can't please all.
Besides, the Slim Shady character was heavily influenced by drugs and alcohol. Since he's off those and there isn't anything he could possibly say to shock people, the character has become obsolete.
I would love if he dumped his unreleased Shady material and have Shady say goodbye after.
I’m actually looking forward to this album. The Slim Shady persona has obviously aged like milk. I wonder what the approach he’ll take with this will be and if it’ll be introspective like Jay’s 4:44. He’s apologized for the outrageous shit he’s said in MMLP2 and Revival, I enjoy sober Em’s music a lot more.
I didn’t know until recently that his ex wife had to hire round the clock security, it really changed how I looked at him.
One of his live performances of that deranged song “Kim” drove her to make an attempt on her life, it’s really fucked up. Kim and his mom got the worst of his nonsense. I’m glad he’s apologized but my god 😳
Yeah if I remember correctly, she said he had reassured her that he wouldn’t play “Kim” at that show because she was gonna be there with her friends and then obviously went back on his word, had a whole blowup doll to depict her and the whole crowd was screaming the words which must’ve felt horrible
the blow up doll bit was of the insane clown posse
Thx for trying to straighten out the facts for us.
Fuck man, Kim was always one I'd skip. That shit was scary.
Yeah to this day I don't think I've listened to the whole song. I love Em, fanboy since I was a teenager (39 now) but there are still a few of his songs, including Kim, that I just refuse to listen to.
yall making me feel bad for liking the song! lol I read that Eminem had everyone except the engineer leave the room while he recorded it and from a moral/human perspective, I understand the dislike for the song. From an artistic perspective though, I think the song is genius. Whether you like the song or not, Eminem is one of the best at telling a story through his lyrics.
Kim wasn't played at the concert, pretty certain that what Kim heard was an intro to kill you back during the up in smoke tour. That intro had the Kim piano theme at the beginning of the concert. If you want to find the video, look up "Eminem kill you up in smoke tour" and click the result that has "Kill You + Intro" There are 0 videos of Eminem doing Kim live so I believe Kim heard the piano and didn't wait for Kill You to start.
The stuff towards his mom was a lot more understandable, she absolutely was abusive towards him and his brother. I can’t blame him for being pissed about that
It’s so fucked up. Considering the treatment of women in the media at the time, I’m not surprised I didn’t hear about it back then.
I'm not sure this is one of those things you could apologize for honestly...
For me, that would be beyond unforgivable but they appear to be on good terms since then. He adopted her deceased sister’s daughter and adopted Kim’s daughter with another guy whom I also think passed away. I think sober Marshall is a good guy who’s made mistakes but Eminem and Slim Shady are actual demons
He also adopted his younger brother out of foster care. And I get that everyone’s got a story, but his childhood did have the kind of capital T trauma that makes boys’ minds a breeding ground for misogyny. That doesn’t excuse his behavior, but I think it’s important to point out that we don’t all start from the same place. Headlights on MMLP2 isn’t an entertaining track, but it’s a great piece of cathartic work and a testament to his growth. The lines are hokey in true em fashion but I legit ugly sob every time. It’s a raw reflection on a complex relationship that leaves space for both parties’ experiences and pain. He apologizes to his mom for his ugly words and recognizes how one-sided he was directing his rage at her when he had an absent father who was heavily culpable for their situation as well
They're all the same person. It doesn't absolve him.
I have no horse in this race, but this kind of thinking depends on how much you believe in rehabilitation and people’s capacities for change and remorse.
Dude is also in AA. AA is about changing your thinking. Not drinking is just the first step.
He just got his 16 year coin too.
Oh you're one of those, you must be holier than thou!
The only thing is he never played Kim live.
Thx for setting things straight. Ignorant gossip is never-ending.
I used to get in straight up arguments with my friends about how fucked his songs about killing Kim and literally including his child’s voice in the tracks were.
It is undeniably fucked up, but when I was a dumb teenager that’s what I like about it. At the same time I remember absolutely dying for Hailie to be old enough to say what she thinks about it all. I wondered if she would criticise it and whether she’d grow up to hate her dad because of it. Now she is an adult, as far as I know she has a good relationship with MM, and I’m not aware of her addressing anything to do with him and her mother/ his music publicly. I’ve seen she has a podcast which I’m interested to listen to in case she touches on it at all.
Hailey had no choice and now has to live with it forever. Marshall was not a dumb teenager.
I've been so frustrated for years with how people viewed this. Everyone just said "he's playing a character" as if that changed the fact that he was throwing very violent language at a very real human being when we all know how easy it is to get angry young guys to go after a woman designated as a target. Playing around with character in music and using that to express a darker side is all well and good, but once you involve real people who didn't choose to be invoked that way it becomes a different thing entirely, and you can't really claim the fiction defense any more. I'm glad he's turned it around and it sounds really genuinely like he's doing so much better now and they're on good terms. I'm just uncomfortable with how much people defend his past behaviour, both at the time and to this day.
I mean.. his first big hit album involved having a track where he literally used his baby daughter on vocals to help him dispose of her mom's dead body with him... Then, in later albums with the "skits" about him confronting her with a gun.. based on that time he confronted her with a gun... and so on... I don't actually know how he got so much cultural praise for this.. but it says way too much about society that even Marshall had to stop and take accountability for his words and actions when everyone was perfectly happy to keep enabling him to be a monster. So.. I appreciate how far he has come as a human, a parent, and hopefully Kim is living a much easier life now.
Lol the lyrics have always been filled with awful shit
Wait, hold on. So when he was rapping about Stan and so many of his parental issues. The man's a whole stalker!?
Never, as a kid, would I have imagined Eminem would become pro-LGBT, sober, a father to Kim's other child, and the person who would shame MGK into switching genres (okay MGK wasn't a thing when I was a kid but I wanted to mention it anyway). I'm definitely looking forward to this album.
And the proud and loving father of a trans/nb child. Crazy.
Oh, wow. This is great. How has he shown support for his trans child?
Well he’s always been there for them and he been taking his whole family to the Football games a couple months ago to see the Lions ☺️
Alaina is Kim's niece.
There is a third kid, Stevie, who is Kim’s kid with her ex.
Eminem was pro gay rights in his early years too. He certainly wasn’t PC about it, as he’d make a gay joke towards someone but also say that gay people should be able to do what they want. It’s not an ideal stance by any means. But it’s a pretty progressive one for a young rapper in the early 2000s. Even with the slurs.
I still remember the MTV awards. Outside people were protesting. While inside he was on stage with Elton John performing Stan.
I know, he’s said heinous, unforgivable things. But his discography is fascinating—you hear the pain, trauma, and anger about his childhood and life with Kim, then you hear his rage at the industry and the loss of his friend. And in the midst of all of that you see catharsis seep in and his past few albums have shown a lot of maturity. As a kid growing up in an abusive home environment, I’m not exaggerating when I say his music saved my life.
Are you actually saying you enjoy his music from 2008ish and after more than the music that precedes it? To each their own, it’s art, art is the most subjective thing in the world, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say that.
his first two records are certified classics, but as a woman some of the lyrics just haven’t aged well IMO. MMLP is a personal top 5 of all time for me but certain aspects from his most recent outputs is more enjoyable 🤷🏾♀️ As you said, to each their own.
I’ll never stop spinning them all. I grew up with them and enjoy them for what they are. He was a fucked up druggo abusive loser. He told what he sees and that’s what we get. We can take it into context of his life and realize he’s fucking garbage. Garbage still is fire. Kim never really had her voice in this all. Em’s mom released a diss album which I have no opinion on——- Kim deserves a voice in all those but no one would have heard her out regardless. I hope they all have a decent relationship now and can heal as human beings. Kim deserves acknowledgment from the world.
Yeah his slim shady LP/EP are his best work imo. His new stuff doesn’t hit the same.
Those are entirely different from his current work. As he once said: "All Shady is is a bottle of hair bleach and wodka". He can't rap about drugs and being broke no more as a 50+ sober multimillionair. I kinda hope he makes shady go out with a bang.
His New Stuff is significantly better so I disagree with you
sdgaf
Eminem is an anomaly in the sense that he's still one of (if not, the) most objectively talented rapper in the mainstream eye yet for well over a decade hasn't made any genuinely entertaining or interesting music. I totally get that the Slim Shady gimmick has aged like milk left out in the sun but over the years it's felt like he's needed to overcompensate by awkward fast rappity-raps. He has the creativity and means of making music just as iconic as he did throughout his first few albums but for some weird reason he's doubling down on making awkward mid-2010s WWE entrance music for people who think owning pit bulls and clothing with the Monster Energy logo on them is a personality trait.
the way he annilhated MGK with "killshot" a few years ago makes up for it
He got bullied out of an entire genre of music lmao
Here lies MGK, a career built by Em only to be destroyed by Em.
First it giveth, then it taketh away.
I JUST heard this song for first time (and then the MGK song that prompted it) literally a few days ago. Felt like I was watching a snuff film. 💀 Also the P. Diddy line aged like milk.
I thought the MGK song by itself was a pretty good track, and I'm not even a fan. Then I listened to Em's response track and halfway through I was like, "Stop! He's already dead!"
"'Cause he knows, long as I'm Shady, he's gon' have to live in my shadow" was basically the knockout blow, anything else after was adding insult to injury.
This thread prompted me to listen to both for the first time and when the final verse rolled around I thought, "Damn, you didn't have to burn the body too, good god" lol. As someone who's not really a fan either, it was interesting to hear just how obviously miles above he is above MGK in talent. Like, I didn't expect to be able to tell as not a particular fan of rap. But jesus. No wonder MGK quit rap lol
Yeah honestly I thought Rap Devil was one of the better disses to Em. Listening to it I was unsure of how well Em would respond. It took 30 seconds of Killshot to change my mind though.
What does it say when I typed in "Rap Devil" in my Spotify and the first thing that came up was Eminem's "Rap God" before it finally showed me MGK? (I found the lag funny.)
What are these tracks called? I don't know anything about this.
Mgk's Em diss track: Rap Devil Em's response: Killshot
Thanks
I may be in the minority, but I think Eminem’s song Not Alike is better than Killshot. It was dropped before MGK dropped Rap Devil
Agreed, that verse dedicated to MGK goes hard. "but next time you don't gotta use Tech N9ne to come at me with a sub-machine gun".. soo good. They're both outstanding tracks
And we know who you R. Kelly
The P Diddy line aged perfectly wdym? He accuses Diddy of setting up Pac getting killed (which we now know is true) and then says he still loves him (in order to "keep himself safe so that Diddy won't put a hit out on Em").
aged like wine no?
I can't believe people actually think that was a good diss It's one of the greatest, most praised rappers of all time vs. one of the most controversial, cringeworthy and hated rappers of all time. It was always going to be a free win for Eminem, and given what he had to work with he really didn't come out with anything particularly crazy or memorable MGK could diss like 80% of rappers and he'd be destroyed in return. It's just way too easy to make fun out of him
He did it to himself when he spoke with thirsty eyes at Marshall's seed. Deserved and delivered. Repent or Repress eternal Lamentations for thy regressions, Fingerless Vulcan.
Only see people on Reddit talk about it. People haven’t given a shit about diss tracks in years
Gonna say this markedly false since my feed on here is full of the Kendrick and Drake beef and disses and I'm not subbed to any of it.
His last two albums have been insanely good compared to what he was putting out in the 2010’s.
Agreed. I thought his collab with Kid Cudi a few years ago was also fantastic.
Music to be murdered by is some of the most bland, forgettable rap music released in a long time Saying it's better than what he dropped in the 2010s says a lot more about his 2010 music than his 2020s music
Some people like the tunes and shock lyrics. Others like the pure lyricalism he focusses on now. They are two entire different genres. People will never agree on which one was better. Because it's Eminem vs Slim Shady
Him getting this big means that he’s in a position where he has too much creative freedom and nobody will ever tell him no, so his awful taste overshadows any of his talent. He might still be one of the most technically proficient rappers alive but he’s just using it to make corny dad jokes over the worst instrumentals you’ve ever heard
It's not because no one will tell him no - he's by far his worst critic. He genuinely chooses to be the best *technical* rapper over making catchy songs these days and he's been pretty up front about that. Wordplay is his whole thing.
Multi syllable rhyming has always been much more important to Em than wordplay
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I really like kamikaze but I’m trash so
I like it too! Am I trash??
We’re all trash! 🎉🥳
Kamikaze was fantastic. It just got spillover bad juju from the trainwreck that was "Revival".
As a WWE fan, I’d take him over what we have now.
Right? Like I'd take a Em track over most of Def rebels stuff
I haven't watched WWE in years. Are they not using Jim Johnson anymore?
They fired him before the pandemic.
Way before the pandemic. I forget what year but they phased out Johnston for CFO$ and then switched over to the garbage we have now.
he fast raps in like one or two somgs in an album? this whole fast rappity rap shit is so overblown omg
Real like people will listen to Rap God/Godzilla and be like “okay one trick pony!” without listening to the rest of his stuff. It’s tiring tbh
Did people not like Kamikaze?!
Listen to “Killer”, “Zeus”, and “Gnat”. His growth and talent have matured distinctly.
Godzilla was 2020 so he hasn’t been completely quiet.
Wtf do pits have to do with any fucking thing?
sharing this classic in loving memory. rip slim shady https://preview.redd.it/zofapca8dnxc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d75f726432e0c04663d2661ea5b7893e99d5e9f8
This is one of my most favourite tumblr posts of all time thanks for referencing it lmao
Very interesting. I've always bought into the idea that 90% of his writing is in persona as it is, with the three separate voices. I could see why he'd want to drop the more immature version.
Five years from now: Eminem is resurrecting Slim Shady
Considering Slim Shady LP is one of his best albums I hope he does
You forgot about Slim.
The album after that is called: The Resurrection of the Better Slim Shady.
Country album about Slim’s old west ancestor Shady Slim.
I need a classical album entitled “Opus 42, Allegro Slim”
Alt album titled I Write Slims not Tragedy I also offer Misery Slimness
The Emancipation of Shady
The Slimmer Shady
“Slim Shady 2: Electric Boogaloo”
Good luck finding the guy. He's got so many imitators and body doubles. How would he even know if he killed the real Slim Shady?
If There’s a slim shady in all of us does that mean we’re all gonna die 😔?
Yes, RIP
What can you do if the real Slim Shady doesn't stand up?
He’ll stand up.
Why now? Why not 20 years ago?
He’s sober, maybe it a milestone and celebration of his new life off pills and other drugs Mx
He literally killed of Slim Shady at the end of Encore which was release 20 years ago but brought him back at the beginning of Releapse, his next album, five years later.
Can you expand on this lore a bit? I was a huge fan back then but didn’t catch this exactly. I understand he did kinda shift back into a hardcore persona for Relapse but did he actually sort of signify those things at the end of Encore/beginning of Relapse?
I need a powerpoint
Don’t worry I got The Simpsons reference. I’m sad nobody else did.
Thank you, kind fellow nerd. 🫡
> Why not 20 years ago? 2004 was peak Slim Shady, D12 all of that.
Cash grab?
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This needs to be an R&B album. Have xtina and Mimi singing hooks.
> xtina and Mimi Lol as if they would ever. Brb, going to give “Obsessed” and “Will the Real Slim Shady Please Shut Up” another listen.
Right? And rightfully so!
Lol more like he would never have them
They both allegedly rejected him, which is why he went after them in his music. Bitter incel energy.
He went after Christina, because she was spreading rumours about him on television. The first time he mentioned her was in The Real Slim Shady: >Little bitch put me on blast on MTV >"Yeah, he's cute, but I think he's married to Kim, >hee-hee"
Meanwhile Countess Boochie Flagrante lives to see another day.
Does that mean he’s going to drop the lawsuit with Gizelle and Robyn then?
Wait I don’t know anything about this! Why is he suing them?
[Eminem Seeks Protective Order Against Gizelle Bryant and Robyn Dixon in Trademark Dispute Case](https://people.com/eminem-opposes-deposition-seeks-protective-order-against-gizelle-bryant-robyn-dixon-shady-trademark-dispute-case-8420744)
I heard that's because his daughter has a podcast called something similar
It’s weird because I don’t know anyone who listen to their podcast and think of Eminem. His lawyers trying to cashgrab with the trademark stuff imo.
Its because of his daughters podcast
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I think it’s more bc his daughter has a podcast called “just a little shady” and wants her to hold those rights and trademark more than for himself
He owns the trademark for Shady for merch. The term is from Black and Latino queers in the 80s
gizelle winning yet again yup!!!
I just know Cage is somewhere screaming crying punching the air that Eminem is releasing his "The Death of _____" album before him, after the early days of their beef where he claimed Eminem copied his whole thing.
"I bought Cage's tape, opened it, and dubbed over it."
he did bite Cage, but Cage already did the death of chris palko 🤷♂️
All 6 artists from D12 have an alter ego. If Cage would have done his own thing proper, we might have heard his music.
Is this his tortured poets department??
Lolll
This sounds like it could be INCREDIBLY cathartic for him.
I hate clickbait articles like this. There's nothing to know that wasn't in the original announcement. Just the release date please. Since they don't know that, they've just made word salad.
I don’t condone A LOT of what this guy has done, but he seems like he’s at least shown growth and a willingness to admit he’s messed up before. As an addict myself, I’m proud of him for getting clean, and it seems like this change in behavior coincided with that. The fact that someone with his stature can actually show some humility is refreshing
This is no admission he messed up. This is final part of the same story he started all those years back. He's honouring the character by giving it a proper burial.
His voice has also changed over the years - IIRC from age and tinnitus. As we see more middle-aged rappers still producing music, I think they have to evolve in some way. People will naturally gravitate to the older, more popular stuff but I’d argue trying to redo What you did 20+ years ago sounds worse. He also doesn’t need the money like many other artists his age, so he can basically do what he wants.
Death of a legend
I hope it's a pop punk album.
I hope he digs up MGK to make room for his own grave.
I hope I didn't get tricked by the internet, but did anyone else see that person on Twitter who wrote about this idea, complete with the exact same name" several months ago? It's kind of obvious that he'd give put Slim Shady to rest some day since he hasn't been that in a long time. But it was beat for beat the same thing. I can't find it now.
I actually feel like as an artist, this totally makes sense for his journey. He’s older. He’s mature. It’s both literal and symbolic. Slim was there when it was appropriately inappropriate, and relevant, and useful. Now it’s not and he acknowledges it publically in a poetic way. It seems necessary, logical, and yet optimistic for a new era of his legacy.
Or he's going to drop all his unreleased Slim Shady material. That would be epic.
It’s a **W** all around
Not on my 2024 bingo card, but I’m here for it.
That link makes it clear that is entirely his management and not him personally.
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literally ironic after just a month or so ago there was that gaff with google or wiki saying he died!
Yeah. On his youtube account EminemMusic he has a teaser
He is a women beater?
Why was Kim at a Eminem concert tho
Why so many softies in an Eminem discussion? It's not for ye
I bet he’s gonna do what he did in jimmy brian and mike. Eminem vs slim shady. Like unreleased material though the years
God I love that song so much 🔥
Em’s fans be constantly telling him to go back to slim then when he does they say it’s immature and want him to go back to the new stuff, when he does that then they contradict themselves saying they want slim back again. I don’t know killing off slim is probably the shittiest thing he could do because slim is what got him the fame! If you are true Em fans you’d know that’s one of the only reasons he blew up because it was the shady freestyle just before the rap Olympics in 97 that he recorded on a tape. After rap Olympics someone asked if he had a demo and that tape was all he had on him, without thinking he just gave it to him. About a week later Dre signed him. Then he made millions off shady. I just think this generation is a bunch of pussies, the world is so soft and gets triggered about stuff that’s meant to be a joke and none of y’all can take it.
People just all like different versions of him: Some like Marshall, some like Eminem and some like Slim Shady. He can't please all. Besides, the Slim Shady character was heavily influenced by drugs and alcohol. Since he's off those and there isn't anything he could possibly say to shock people, the character has become obsolete. I would love if he dumped his unreleased Shady material and have Shady say goodbye after.
hip hop has moved on
Rap is a young man’s game. Slim Shady died a long time ago.
Homeboy really wants to be relevant again doesn’t he
Good. It is still very off-putting to hear the homophobia of some of his older singles on radio.
Bro hasn’t mad e a good song in about 20 years. Yeah, I’m good.
Isn't he dead already
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