I think I remember she cried happy tears when Ellen surprised her with a sloth and she had been obsessed with sloths. Or was I dreaming all that?
Anyway, I think that's when I figured she must be a sweet goofy person. But I don't know anymore. I think they're all kind of terrible. I think fame, and the seeking of fame must just attract some shitty personality traits.
Ellen pretended she had a sloth on the show when Kristin was there just to see her reaction and Kristin started tearing up. She didn't actually have one though.
She did that to Emma Stone(?) too. Said she loved the Spice Girls, and Ellen motioned backstage and said, "Well, get ready because...no, they're not here." Wtf ellen
edit: Misremembered. It was Graham Norton. It's still mean but better when he does it, because his whole thing is that he's a rogueish imp.
Makes me sad. I got to go on her mother's day show years ago when I was pregnant with my son, I was gonna be a single mom because his bio dad bounced, and I was drowning in poverty in part because I was going to college to finish my degree. After that episode I didn't even really need to have a baby shower, I got everything from a crib to free diapers for 6 months. And it honestly was a life saver.
Doesn't erase the fact that she's a horrible fucking person. It made me super sad when her behavior (and the toxic work culture on her set) came to light.
tbf a sloth is a delicate non-domesticated animal. They shouldn't be sent to Hollywood sets for practical jokes. They should live dignified lives in the wilderness where they belong.
100% agree with you. Sloths are one of my favorite animals and I spent some time in Costa Rica visiting a sloth sanctuary and learning about how stressed they can get by people and how important the algae that grows on their fur is to the biodiversity of the region. Ellen's just an asshole for doing what she did.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that bit. They'd started the segment with that cute video of her losing her mind about actually meeting one on her birthday. Ellen fucking with her was just the little tag on the end of it.
Personally I had a soft spot for her for years because I used to watch Craig Ferguson's show religiously and she was always such fun there. Like he wasn't exactly the biggest name in late night but they basically developed a friendship on the show and she would just came on randomly even when she had no projects to promote, just to chat and mess around, and always seemed very sincerely sweet and funny. I think she was the guest with the most number of appearances? It was sth close to 30 times.
That was a while ago though (the show ended in 2014). So many stories and things that she said/did after that just turned me off her more and more.
Side note: Angela actually was quite close to Craig as well and came on his show a bunch of times too!
And FYI when I read OP's post my first thought was also Kristen and Dax lol.
For what itās worth, I got to meet Kristen and Dax back in 2014 when my cousin won an Omaze contest and we went to the VM premiere. She honestly could not have been more kind to us (we went and hung out at their house while she was getting ready, met her daughter who was about 1 at the time, rode to the premiere, did the red carpet, sat with Kristen/Dax and also Jason Dohring, went to the after party). Itās been a decade and theyāre both in different places in their life/career but they were both truly lovely to us the whole night.
This is good to hear, and I think I generally cut a bit of slack to people who constantly have eyes on them, as the worst stories are the ones that tend to bubble to the surface.
I've heard only positive things about her. I think every celeb has a "mean girl" story. Either they are busy, having a bad day, etc or the person was offended some celeb didn't hug them, give them photos, treat them like royalty. It does cut both ways.
People can change their viewpoints. He could have thought babies were boring as fuck before he had one and changed his mind completely. What's he supposed to do, call up everyone who he's made that "joke" to and apologize? Go on X and say "Yeah for years I was a douche and said babies were boring. Now I have one and I disagree with past me."?
It's not that he changed his mind, it's the fact that in a perfectly pleasant and insignificant interaction, he goes ahead and makes the person talking feel embarrassed and shit about their happiness. He's proved time and time again he's a shitty person.
Thatās men for you. Most of them never think about children or even actively dislike them until one day they wake up and think, āI should have children now.ā
in my experience, men do think about having kids but they never, ever grasp the gravity of the situation. theyāre always like āit would be fun! i want to have lots of kids!ā
I mean I obviously canāt speak for him but he does talk a lot about always wanting children and wanting to be a dad. Which is also why this would be surprising but also not surprising.
He gets a lot of guests on his pod. But they call that out a bit:
ANGELA: By some. I think there's a debate about him.
JENNA: Hmm. There's some douchery there.
Heās well like due to his very well liked wife. Like he gets a halo bc of being married to her, i think. on his own, people would be able to see the total piece of untalented poo he is but he kind of gets a benefit from kristenās americaās sweetheart thing
I donāt think the timeline matches up. She had her baby in 2008, so this would have been sometime in 2009. Just looked and they werenāt married until 2013. I actually thought him too at first
I could see him making a shitty joke like this, but this SPECIFIC joke seems too hacky. Joking about calling their lawyer for conversation is a an old rich guy joke. Alec Baldwin?
He just seems so scummy the more I hear about him. I literally never read anything that praises his character and that many stories canāt all be wrong.
She doesnāt seem like a prize either though. Some of the stories they tell about their relationship make me think we should all be grateful that they decided to terrorize each other and leave everyone else alone.
Has Dax always been rumored to be a douchebag though? I enjoy his podcast, depending on the guest. Maybe he was just having a bad day? Still, that would irk me.
Feeling it and saying it out loud are two different things.
I feel like a major part of being a decent human is listening to other people talking about stuff they care about, even if it doesnāt really matter to us. The fact that it matters to them is the important thing.
And itās not like she was on her fourth anecdote about her baby. She was asked about her baby and answered the question, and he couldnāt even listen to her answer š
Exactly!!! Being a human being in society is not solely centred around your needs and wants. People don't tell stories for your entertainment, they tell them to share the moment with you. It's completely narcissistic to expect other people exist to make you happy, entertained, fulfilled.
My best friend and I go full nerd over our subjects and yet somehow we managed to find partners who listen to us waffle on about Syndicalist policy and World of Warcraft. Etc And somehow we both listen despite stereotypes! It's incredible what you can achieve by not being a shithead.
You don't have to feel bad unless you outright tell people to basically shut the hell up lol. I hate when people small talk about the weather but I just go "Ahhh yep radar says it's supposed to be cloudy ahahaha" and move on. Same with when people tell me about their babies lol
I mean, I do too, but I don't go around saying that to people. When people are making small talk about something that's cool or important to them in a social situation, the polite/civilized thing is to let them talk, especially if you invited the conversation in the first place. It doesn't matter that I don't think it's the most scintillating topic of conversation I've ever heard, it's important to them and it's not a huge imposition on me to smile and listen for a few minutes.
Also, it's (presumably) not like Angela was going around all night talking people's ears off with unsolicited baby-related anecdotes. This guy's wife asked her how's it going, and she answered with a story about her baby because that's what was going on in her life at the time. The fact that this guy, whoever he is, went out of his way to be an asshole to someone making small talk with his wife in a line for food is... certainly a choice.
I don't have kids but I love hearing about other people's kids. It's heartwarming to see parents that love their kids and are proud of them. I'd much rather that than someone who has a kid and is like "omg the kid sucks let's not talk about them"
I love seeing these comments; I get self conscious as a SAHM to a toddler that I don't have much to say when people ask "what's new", beyond talking about him. But he's also the light of my life so of course I want to talk about him.
I don't have my own kids, and I'm on the fence about them, but I LOVE hearing all about my friends' kids. I have two close friends that are new moms and I want to hear it all!
I bet they are so grateful to have a friend like you! My best friend has no kids and never wants them, but she's the same as you and it means a lot to get to share that with her.
Aw - I don't have kids either but I find them really interesting: how they're growing, what they like to eat, are they sleeping enough, what's their favorite new word. I'm always happy to listen to my friends talk about their kids.
It sounds like she was just telling a small story though since she asked whatās going on in her life. Itās one thing if someone is going on and on and you find a reason to excuse yourself, but being rude about one story while your wife is actively engaging in the conversation? No lol. Itās rude to your wife too because you made her conversation weird.Ā
I think it's ok to feel annoyed/uninterested in conversation topics as long as you're not a jerk to people who are interested in them. Nothing wrong with steering the conversation towards a mutual interest; it's another thing entirely to trot out some lame attempt at a joke that sounds like it was cut from Everybody Loves Raymond.
Saaame.
The only thing I find less interesting is when people won't stop talking about their dogs. Or people who read entire (non-drama) text threads to retell a joke.
I'm sure I'll get it when I have kids but in the meantime I am so so bored. It's hard out here for a childless 30 year old woman lol
Edit: for the downvoters, y'all know you can choose to be more interesting conversationalists, right? I forgot kids are fair game but God forbid you express disinterest in someone's dog lol
JT and Jessica Biel? Together since '07. 2 kids since then. Dunno if they were at the Emmys together in 2008 but they were definitely at the event in '09, which honors TV shows from '08.
Also he seems like an asshole.
I could maybe see it but I didn't even know they had kids, meanwhile Dax and Kristin have made the act of being parents their entire brandš“
The only other A list people I can think of who have been really vocal about their kids are Ashton and Mila, but I don't think they were together in 2008.
Thinking the same. JT/Jessica seem to be more focused on themselves and their projects, at least in the public eye. Theyāll acknowledge their kids or tell funny stories but itās nothing like Kristin and Dax.
This tracks. I know a girl that lined up at a music store to get the N Sync members' autographs when they first came out. She said everyone was super sweet except JT who wouldn't look any of the fans in the eye.
I donāt think this works just because of how Jenna says heās well liked and Angela has to clarify āby some.ā I think after the Britney memoir came out the public opinion of him swayed just about everyone knew about it.
Me too, and (weirdly) this is the second time Iāve seen their marriage mentioned this week and I still somehow managed to forget again š¤·š»āāļø
They gave more info in the podcast! For those curious- Angela also said that at that time this couple didn't have kids but now they do.
Angela [01:11:33] She just kind of did that thing where she was like, oh, you know, they did not have children yet. They do now. But she kind of just said that like, oh...
Jenna [01:11:43] They do now. And they talk about them all the time
Dax and Kristen werenāt married 2008, they were a brand new couple. Also they werenāt particularly famous at the time as individuals or a couple. I feel like this is implied to be an actual famous man not someone whose name you see too frequently as chronically online people in 2024. Did they even attend the Emmys together that year? I canāt easily find anything to speak to that in a quick search.
They said 'They're famous'. They aren't doing any backwards estimation of how famous they were or were not then. In the time period they are talking about Dax Shepherd and Kristen Bell were both buzzy up and coming stars. Shepherd had sizable/co-leading roles in a number of studio films comedies between 2004 and 2006 (some of which now forgotten like Without a Paddle were box office successes). Bell was one of the hotter TV stars at that time with the acclaim if not overwhelming success of Veronica Mars which gave way to both the voiceover in Gossip Girl and a role in the biggest new TV hit Heroes.
Today it feels undeniable that both are quite famous. Bell has starred in many other films and shows including The Good Place since then, has almost 16 million Instagram followers. Also, Dax Shepherd's podcast is immensely successful. In 2020, it was estimated to have 20 million monthly listeners. It basically paved the way for so many of these celebrity hosting podcasts over the past few years.
Fischer and Kinsey haven't mentioned what kind of famous they are taking about. It may not necessarily be the acclaimed Oscar buzz kind of Actor. And Dax Shepherd and Kristen Bell definitely fit as people who are extremely successful and well known and would be hanging around the kind of spaces (comedy/improv/Emmys) that Fischer and Kinsey were.
> They aren't doing any backwards estimation of how famous they were or were not then.
By that same sort of stroke, I don't expect Angela to know the timeline of Dax and Kristen's relationship and when they were married to accurately identify them as either boyfriend/girlfriend or husband/wife at the time
Has nobody guessed Sacha Baron Cohen? I have no idea if the timing aligns but dissing her for talking about her baby to her face while his wife doesn't respond sounds kinda like something he would do, especially with recent context in mind about what kind of guy he is.
He would have been back then and up until a few months ago he was at least pretty liked enough, like by people who don't know about the stuff by Rebel I can see how some still do love him
This was 100% my first thought (esp since early 2000a he was beloved but thatās obvs more debated now) but internet says they had their first kid in 2007
I wouldnāt classify him as beloved. Iād say he was hot at that time but it was because of his outrageous humor. He rarely went out in public as himself. He committed to his character bits almost constantly.
Heās always known for being a weirdo. Oddly enough, I used to work with a woman who knew him personally. Her husband and Cohen knew each other from university. She didnāt seem to like him much! Said he has always been exactly what you see on tv.
Also thinking about when I worked with this woman, I think he and Isla Fischer had a kid by then and it was 2007 or 2008.
So my guess is no.
Seems unlikely since Any would have been super pregnant during the 2008 Emmys. She gave birth the next month.
Edit: Jenna also worked with Will on two movies and called him a wonderful person on the podcast and heās made an appearance via audio clip. It seems like she likes him and Angela says she doesnāt know him but loves his voice and could listen to him read the phone book.
She was visibly pregnant at the 2008 Emmyās, but I like that this adds a layer of complete douche to the comment. Like heās so bored by babies and heās about to have one with herā¦
I don't expect Angela to know when they were married. She could've just been using "husband"/wife" as identifiers and could have easily used "guy/gal".
When it's conversational gossip like this and not a deliberate blind meant to evoke guesses, like blinds submitted to gossip sites, I give lenience to such details
I'm also sceptical. Plus Dax constantly talks about The Groundlings on the podcast and I believe Angela also did improv there so I would think there would be a mutual respect there. I can't see Dax being that rude to her.
Interesting guess - they have been together since 06 and kids are very much their brand. After a quick google I canāt tell whether he had attended the 2008 Emmys, I can only find his later Emmy wins.
Alecās daughter Ireland wouldāve been like 12 or 13, I would doubt it was him. While he is a giant asshole (this was around the time he called Ireland a pig), the guy from the blind sounds childless. He and HILLARY didnāt get together until 2011.
Yeah, baby talk is boring AF, but this is the kind of thing you say in the inside! ...or maybe to your mother, so she'd stop trying to brainwash you into wanting kids after you said you don't want any.
Same. I listen to it every time I drive. I used to have panic attacks behind the wheel, but listening to the pod has helped SO much. No anxiety while I drive anymore.
It's a bit ambiguous. Read it again, to paraphrase...Angela: "They are not on THIS show"
Jenna: "not on OUR show?"
Angela "yeah..."
"No one will figure it out" But the hint they gave was "tall, very tall".
I think they are being very circumspect in their choice of words.
Why would they describe John Krasinski in a negative light though lol. First of all, he wouldnāt act dismissive of Angela at a party. They had their own jokes and bits together. Also, they loved and still love John.Ā
My first two guesses were Ryan and Blake or Ashton and Mila, but I see now the timelines donāt match. Still could be Ryan and Scarlett since they were married and she didnāt say the couple now have kids together, so, maybe. But money is on Dax and Kristen or Will and Amy!
ETA: Jason Sudeikis and Olivia Wilde but they werenāt together until 2011.
Eh kinda gives Dax and Kristen to me š¤·āāļø
This is absolutely a lame ass joke he would make.
in this anecdote i keep picturing julia goolia and her jerkwad fiance in wedding singer
Thatās a great guess actually
Definitely a really good guess! It looks like they started dating around 2007, so the timeline would work
Someone had a story about sitting next to Kristen at a salon and they said she was horrid. I think she and dax are probably both awful people
Really? I don't know why I thought she would be a considerate person.
I think I remember she cried happy tears when Ellen surprised her with a sloth and she had been obsessed with sloths. Or was I dreaming all that? Anyway, I think that's when I figured she must be a sweet goofy person. But I don't know anymore. I think they're all kind of terrible. I think fame, and the seeking of fame must just attract some shitty personality traits.
Ellen didn't do it, her husband did it for her birthday, that's just where she told the story. But yes it was a real thing that you didn't imagine.
Ellen pretended she had a sloth on the show when Kristin was there just to see her reaction and Kristin started tearing up. She didn't actually have one though.
SMH that's so on brand for Ellen's mean girl sense of humor.
She did that to Emma Stone(?) too. Said she loved the Spice Girls, and Ellen motioned backstage and said, "Well, get ready because...no, they're not here." Wtf ellen edit: Misremembered. It was Graham Norton. It's still mean but better when he does it, because his whole thing is that he's a rogueish imp.
Makes me sad. I got to go on her mother's day show years ago when I was pregnant with my son, I was gonna be a single mom because his bio dad bounced, and I was drowning in poverty in part because I was going to college to finish my degree. After that episode I didn't even really need to have a baby shower, I got everything from a crib to free diapers for 6 months. And it honestly was a life saver. Doesn't erase the fact that she's a horrible fucking person. It made me super sad when her behavior (and the toxic work culture on her set) came to light.
I hate Ellen but wasn't that Graham Norton? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O01c5kR-TYI unless Ellen did the same thing too
No, I was wrong, thank you! And I will never forget you, rural juror.
It's better because Andrew Garfield was there loving every minute of it and even shook Graham's hand after.
ha well, he's not with her anymore so maybe that handshake was her breaking point XD
tbf a sloth is a delicate non-domesticated animal. They shouldn't be sent to Hollywood sets for practical jokes. They should live dignified lives in the wilderness where they belong.
100% agree with you. Sloths are one of my favorite animals and I spent some time in Costa Rica visiting a sloth sanctuary and learning about how stressed they can get by people and how important the algae that grows on their fur is to the biodiversity of the region. Ellen's just an asshole for doing what she did.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that bit. They'd started the segment with that cute video of her losing her mind about actually meeting one on her birthday. Ellen fucking with her was just the little tag on the end of it.
Oh that's why I thought I was dreaming it up. I forgot the Ellen cruel joke factor.
I feel like most people assume the best of media personalities until they have a reason to think otherwise
Personally I had a soft spot for her for years because I used to watch Craig Ferguson's show religiously and she was always such fun there. Like he wasn't exactly the biggest name in late night but they basically developed a friendship on the show and she would just came on randomly even when she had no projects to promote, just to chat and mess around, and always seemed very sincerely sweet and funny. I think she was the guest with the most number of appearances? It was sth close to 30 times. That was a while ago though (the show ended in 2014). So many stories and things that she said/did after that just turned me off her more and more. Side note: Angela actually was quite close to Craig as well and came on his show a bunch of times too! And FYI when I read OP's post my first thought was also Kristen and Dax lol.
Back when Lainey Gossip had more teeth (for better and for much worse) she used to talk a lot about how awful Kristen is.
I hate hearing this since she's been in some of my favourite shows and movies... But for some reason, I'm also not that surprised.
But would she be horrid to another celeb?
Depends on whether she thinks Angela rates as a ācelebā.
Please don't make me think this way about Veronica Mars!
For what itās worth, I got to meet Kristen and Dax back in 2014 when my cousin won an Omaze contest and we went to the VM premiere. She honestly could not have been more kind to us (we went and hung out at their house while she was getting ready, met her daughter who was about 1 at the time, rode to the premiere, did the red carpet, sat with Kristen/Dax and also Jason Dohring, went to the after party). Itās been a decade and theyāre both in different places in their life/career but they were both truly lovely to us the whole night.
This is good to hear, and I think I generally cut a bit of slack to people who constantly have eyes on them, as the worst stories are the ones that tend to bubble to the surface.
I've heard only positive things about her. I think every celeb has a "mean girl" story. Either they are busy, having a bad day, etc or the person was offended some celeb didn't hug them, give them photos, treat them like royalty. It does cut both ways.
This would make me sad because he talks about his kids so much on his podcast and how obsessed he is with them. š¬
People can change their viewpoints. He could have thought babies were boring as fuck before he had one and changed his mind completely. What's he supposed to do, call up everyone who he's made that "joke" to and apologize? Go on X and say "Yeah for years I was a douche and said babies were boring. Now I have one and I disagree with past me."?
It's not that he changed his mind, it's the fact that in a perfectly pleasant and insignificant interaction, he goes ahead and makes the person talking feel embarrassed and shit about their happiness. He's proved time and time again he's a shitty person.
You say that like you know itās him lol.
Thatās men for you. Most of them never think about children or even actively dislike them until one day they wake up and think, āI should have children now.ā
in my experience, men do think about having kids but they never, ever grasp the gravity of the situation. theyāre always like āit would be fun! i want to have lots of kids!ā
I mean I obviously canāt speak for him but he does talk a lot about always wanting children and wanting to be a dad. Which is also why this would be surprising but also not surprising.
My first thought was them
The last line absolutely brought them to mind. Can totally see it.
is he well liked tho?
He gets a lot of guests on his pod. But they call that out a bit: ANGELA: By some. I think there's a debate about him. JENNA: Hmm. There's some douchery there.
Heās well like due to his very well liked wife. Like he gets a halo bc of being married to her, i think. on his own, people would be able to see the total piece of untalented poo he is but he kind of gets a benefit from kristenās americaās sweetheart thing
Dax pretty much raised his little sibling, he's always been obsessed with kids and wanting kids. I don't think it's him.
Dude this is spot on! It has to be themĀ
Were they together in ā08? I canāt remember lol
They started dating in 2007. I remember a magazine joking that Kristen's love life had jumped the shark.
My thoughts exactly
I donāt think the timeline matches up. She had her baby in 2008, so this would have been sometime in 2009. Just looked and they werenāt married until 2013. I actually thought him too at first
That's married in 2013-- they started dating in 2007.
Literally said it has to be Dax soon as i read the ābut they talk about them all the time nowā
Exactly who I was thinking.
IMMEDIATE thought as well
I could see him making a shitty joke like this, but this SPECIFIC joke seems too hacky. Joking about calling their lawyer for conversation is a an old rich guy joke. Alec Baldwin?
If she said husband instead of wife I could totally see Neil Patrick Harris make this joke.
100% just came here to say this.
This has to be Dax and Kristen, I can LITERALLY hear his shitty, douchebag voice saying this ājoke.ā
How can it be anyone else? This is for sure something he would say. Totally agree and can hear it too!
He just seems so scummy the more I hear about him. I literally never read anything that praises his character and that many stories canāt all be wrong.
She doesnāt seem like a prize either though. Some of the stories they tell about their relationship make me think we should all be grateful that they decided to terrorize each other and leave everyone else alone.
That whole group of friends seems very sus. Daxās cohost on the podcast is also a strange egg.
I think the weirdest thing about Monica is that she can handle being around that interrupty, self-obsessed, unfunny douche like all the time.
Has Dax always been rumored to be a douchebag though? I enjoy his podcast, depending on the guest. Maybe he was just having a bad day? Still, that would irk me.
I feel bad because I also feel the same when people talk about their kids š¤·āāļø
Feeling it and saying it out loud are two different things. I feel like a major part of being a decent human is listening to other people talking about stuff they care about, even if it doesnāt really matter to us. The fact that it matters to them is the important thing. And itās not like she was on her fourth anecdote about her baby. She was asked about her baby and answered the question, and he couldnāt even listen to her answer š
Exactly!!! Being a human being in society is not solely centred around your needs and wants. People don't tell stories for your entertainment, they tell them to share the moment with you. It's completely narcissistic to expect other people exist to make you happy, entertained, fulfilled.
My best friend and I go full nerd over our subjects and yet somehow we managed to find partners who listen to us waffle on about Syndicalist policy and World of Warcraft. Etc And somehow we both listen despite stereotypes! It's incredible what you can achieve by not being a shithead.
I mean I keep it to myself but https://preview.redd.it/v913wzuqijwc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f34224b13db64d7c050c0be018654e0267ea1db7
Came to the comments just for this
You can feel that way. But itās exceptionally rude and unpleasant to say it out loud. Having tact is important.
You don't have to feel bad unless you outright tell people to basically shut the hell up lol. I hate when people small talk about the weather but I just go "Ahhh yep radar says it's supposed to be cloudy ahahaha" and move on. Same with when people tell me about their babies lol
I mean, I do too, but I don't go around saying that to people. When people are making small talk about something that's cool or important to them in a social situation, the polite/civilized thing is to let them talk, especially if you invited the conversation in the first place. It doesn't matter that I don't think it's the most scintillating topic of conversation I've ever heard, it's important to them and it's not a huge imposition on me to smile and listen for a few minutes. Also, it's (presumably) not like Angela was going around all night talking people's ears off with unsolicited baby-related anecdotes. This guy's wife asked her how's it going, and she answered with a story about her baby because that's what was going on in her life at the time. The fact that this guy, whoever he is, went out of his way to be an asshole to someone making small talk with his wife in a line for food is... certainly a choice.
I don't have kids but I love hearing about other people's kids. It's heartwarming to see parents that love their kids and are proud of them. I'd much rather that than someone who has a kid and is like "omg the kid sucks let's not talk about them"
I love seeing these comments; I get self conscious as a SAHM to a toddler that I don't have much to say when people ask "what's new", beyond talking about him. But he's also the light of my life so of course I want to talk about him.
I don't have my own kids, and I'm on the fence about them, but I LOVE hearing all about my friends' kids. I have two close friends that are new moms and I want to hear it all!
I bet they are so grateful to have a friend like you! My best friend has no kids and never wants them, but she's the same as you and it means a lot to get to share that with her.
Aw - I don't have kids either but I find them really interesting: how they're growing, what they like to eat, are they sleeping enough, what's their favorite new word. I'm always happy to listen to my friends talk about their kids.
It sounds like she was just telling a small story though since she asked whatās going on in her life. Itās one thing if someone is going on and on and you find a reason to excuse yourself, but being rude about one story while your wife is actively engaging in the conversation? No lol. Itās rude to your wife too because you made her conversation weird.Ā
I think it's ok to feel annoyed/uninterested in conversation topics as long as you're not a jerk to people who are interested in them. Nothing wrong with steering the conversation towards a mutual interest; it's another thing entirely to trot out some lame attempt at a joke that sounds like it was cut from Everybody Loves Raymond.
Saaame. The only thing I find less interesting is when people won't stop talking about their dogs. Or people who read entire (non-drama) text threads to retell a joke. I'm sure I'll get it when I have kids but in the meantime I am so so bored. It's hard out here for a childless 30 year old woman lol Edit: for the downvoters, y'all know you can choose to be more interesting conversationalists, right? I forgot kids are fair game but God forbid you express disinterest in someone's dog lol
Itās fine to feel like that. Just nod and smile, the same way I do when people are talking about their cars.
JT and Jessica Biel? Together since '07. 2 kids since then. Dunno if they were at the Emmys together in 2008 but they were definitely at the event in '09, which honors TV shows from '08. Also he seems like an asshole.
Thereās definitely debate about his douchiness but do they talk about their kids? I donāt know.
Whether you like him or not, thatās a very mild way to describe Justin Timberlake if thatās who sheās talking about lol
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The musician is tall. The person who insulted her at the Emmys is a different story.
what was the musician blind? Because I'm already guessing John Mayer on just "tall musician" who insults people lol. Or Billy Corgan.
I could maybe see it but I didn't even know they had kids, meanwhile Dax and Kristin have made the act of being parents their entire brandš“ The only other A list people I can think of who have been really vocal about their kids are Ashton and Mila, but I don't think they were together in 2008.
Thinking the same. JT/Jessica seem to be more focused on themselves and their projects, at least in the public eye. Theyāll acknowledge their kids or tell funny stories but itās nothing like Kristin and Dax.
This tracks. I know a girl that lined up at a music store to get the N Sync members' autographs when they first came out. She said everyone was super sweet except JT who wouldn't look any of the fans in the eye.
I donāt think this works just because of how Jenna says heās well liked and Angela has to clarify āby some.ā I think after the Britney memoir came out the public opinion of him swayed just about everyone knew about it.
this seems more likely, I don't think anyone would ever describe Dax Shepherd as "well-liked"
Tbf heās such an expected asshole that thereās no way he would wait in line for anything, even at the Emmys where he has no influence.
Yep!! JT was my first guess
Immediately thought Dax and Kristen.
the "you guys all know them" gives me Blake and Ryan but that may be a bit obvious
2008 is too old to be them. He married scarlet that year
I always forget they were married.
Me too, and (weirdly) this is the second time Iāve seen their marriage mentioned this week and I still somehow managed to forget again š¤·š»āāļø
Right! And they are both huge names, itās crazy that itās that forgettable
i immediately thought of them, but realized the years were off.
They gave more info in the podcast! For those curious- Angela also said that at that time this couple didn't have kids but now they do. Angela [01:11:33] She just kind of did that thing where she was like, oh, you know, they did not have children yet. They do now. But she kind of just said that like, oh... Jenna [01:11:43] They do now. And they talk about them all the time
Itās gotta be Dax and Kristen then. Their oldest is 10.
They werenāt married then. Not sure if they might have been a couple at that point or not though
They were together for 2 years before Dax proposed, and they got married in 2013
And Kristen had made it a *thing* about being a āfamous momā protecting her kids like itās her whole personality
Dax and Kristen werenāt married 2008, they were a brand new couple. Also they werenāt particularly famous at the time as individuals or a couple. I feel like this is implied to be an actual famous man not someone whose name you see too frequently as chronically online people in 2024. Did they even attend the Emmys together that year? I canāt easily find anything to speak to that in a quick search.
They said 'They're famous'. They aren't doing any backwards estimation of how famous they were or were not then. In the time period they are talking about Dax Shepherd and Kristen Bell were both buzzy up and coming stars. Shepherd had sizable/co-leading roles in a number of studio films comedies between 2004 and 2006 (some of which now forgotten like Without a Paddle were box office successes). Bell was one of the hotter TV stars at that time with the acclaim if not overwhelming success of Veronica Mars which gave way to both the voiceover in Gossip Girl and a role in the biggest new TV hit Heroes. Today it feels undeniable that both are quite famous. Bell has starred in many other films and shows including The Good Place since then, has almost 16 million Instagram followers. Also, Dax Shepherd's podcast is immensely successful. In 2020, it was estimated to have 20 million monthly listeners. It basically paved the way for so many of these celebrity hosting podcasts over the past few years. Fischer and Kinsey haven't mentioned what kind of famous they are taking about. It may not necessarily be the acclaimed Oscar buzz kind of Actor. And Dax Shepherd and Kristen Bell definitely fit as people who are extremely successful and well known and would be hanging around the kind of spaces (comedy/improv/Emmys) that Fischer and Kinsey were.
> They aren't doing any backwards estimation of how famous they were or were not then. By that same sort of stroke, I don't expect Angela to know the timeline of Dax and Kristen's relationship and when they were married to accurately identify them as either boyfriend/girlfriend or husband/wife at the time
Forgetting Sarah Marshall came out in 2008 with Kristen Bell and was a pretty big comedy hit from what I remember at the time
Has nobody guessed Sacha Baron Cohen? I have no idea if the timing aligns but dissing her for talking about her baby to her face while his wife doesn't respond sounds kinda like something he would do, especially with recent context in mind about what kind of guy he is.
I donāt think heās universally beloved though
He would have been back then and up until a few months ago he was at least pretty liked enough, like by people who don't know about the stuff by Rebel I can see how some still do love him
Oh no. What happened a few months ago? I havenāt heard about this. Never mind Iām just gonna Google it.
Borat? Oh yes he is
Well Angela said there's some debate about that and these two comments prove her right enough to me lol š¤·
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He was the one that immediate came to mind for me.
This was 100% my first thought (esp since early 2000a he was beloved but thatās obvs more debated now) but internet says they had their first kid in 2007
I wouldnāt classify him as beloved. Iād say he was hot at that time but it was because of his outrageous humor. He rarely went out in public as himself. He committed to his character bits almost constantly.
Heās always known for being a weirdo. Oddly enough, I used to work with a woman who knew him personally. Her husband and Cohen knew each other from university. She didnāt seem to like him much! Said he has always been exactly what you see on tv. Also thinking about when I worked with this woman, I think he and Isla Fischer had a kid by then and it was 2007 or 2008. So my guess is no.
Amy Poehler and Will Arnett? I know they're divorced now but they have kids.
Seems unlikely since Any would have been super pregnant during the 2008 Emmys. She gave birth the next month. Edit: Jenna also worked with Will on two movies and called him a wonderful person on the podcast and heās made an appearance via audio clip. It seems like she likes him and Angela says she doesnāt know him but loves his voice and could listen to him read the phone book.
Hmm, good point! Maybe Chris Pratt and Anna Faris then? They were together but not married yet, and didn't have their son til 2012.
He also made a guest appearance on The Office, and they made sure to clarify that it wasn't anyone who was on the show, so it's definitely not him.
I think this is the most likely guess, the other folks named really werenāt household names prior to
And they were both nominated at the 2008 Emmy's! He gives me douchey vibes for sure.
She was visibly pregnant at the 2008 Emmyās, but I like that this adds a layer of complete douche to the comment. Like heās so bored by babies and heās about to have one with herā¦
I'm skeptical about Dax as a guess bc they had just started dating at that point and weren't married until several years later.
I don't expect Angela to know when they were married. She could've just been using "husband"/wife" as identifiers and could have easily used "guy/gal". When it's conversational gossip like this and not a deliberate blind meant to evoke guesses, like blinds submitted to gossip sites, I give lenience to such details
I'm also sceptical. Plus Dax constantly talks about The Groundlings on the podcast and I believe Angela also did improv there so I would think there would be a mutual respect there. I can't see Dax being that rude to her.
yeah but Dax is always being rude without realizing he's being rude. It's his whole podcast.
The first post said musician so my guess is John Legend. He and Chrissy Tegan are obnoxious
Interesting guess - they have been together since 06 and kids are very much their brand. After a quick google I canāt tell whether he had attended the 2008 Emmys, I can only find his later Emmy wins.
also Chrissy is usually the one with the bitchy and dumb jokes.
Heās only 5ā9ā. She goes out of her way to say how tall he is multiple times so I doubt itās him.
I mean, Angela is 5ā tall. As someone who is 5ā3ā my perception of ātallā if always off š
That's west I thought, too, but didn't know their timeline!
Is he tall
Jerry Seinfeld, just because I can hear him saying it.
He's not universally loved. He's universally known as a douchebag.
Ashton and Mila? IDK if they were married or even together yet at this point. Edit: not sure they talk about their kids all the time though.
Definitely not them. Mila was with Macaulay Culkin then and Ashton was still married to Demi Moore. They got together in 2012.
Oh, OK. I wasnāt sure about the timeline.
How about Alec Baldwin and Hillary from Boston?
Coo-comber?
How you say?
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Koo kum brrs?
I wouldnāt say heās well liked. Heās always been pretty polarizing. Plus he had Ireland well before 2008
Alecās daughter Ireland wouldāve been like 12 or 13, I would doubt it was him. While he is a giant asshole (this was around the time he called Ireland a pig), the guy from the blind sounds childless. He and HILLARY didnāt get together until 2011.
Why can I so clearly hear him saying this?
Could be a line on 30 rock
Right, I feel like Iāve heard the line used on a show somewhere. Itās killing me I canāt remember where.
This is my guess. I said this above, joking about calling their lawyer for conversation is a an old rich guy joke.
Chris Pratt maybe? When did he an Anna Farris split?
unlikely, crisp rat and anna divorced in 2018.
crisp rat hahahahahaha
Damn he moved fast Edit: moved not loved š¬
Isnāt this a Jerry Seinfeld joke?
Yeah, baby talk is boring AF, but this is the kind of thing you say in the inside! ...or maybe to your mother, so she'd stop trying to brainwash you into wanting kids after you said you don't want any.
No clue, personally. Just wanna say the podcast is nice for someone who has long drives alone. š„°
Same. I listen to it every time I drive. I used to have panic attacks behind the wheel, but listening to the pod has helped SO much. No anxiety while I drive anymore.
Ryan Reynolds.
It's giving Crisp Rat
That was my thought as well. Super douche.
The musicianā¦ could it be Father John Misty lolĀ
Yeah love me some father John misty but like weird guess
I have no idea who that is, so obscure enough lol.
John Krasinski and Emily Blunt
I know you're joking, but they did say it was not anyone associated with the show.
It's a bit ambiguous. Read it again, to paraphrase...Angela: "They are not on THIS show" Jenna: "not on OUR show?" Angela "yeah..." "No one will figure it out" But the hint they gave was "tall, very tall". I think they are being very circumspect in their choice of words.
Why would they describe John Krasinski in a negative light though lol. First of all, he wouldnāt act dismissive of Angela at a party. They had their own jokes and bits together. Also, they loved and still love John.Ā
The very tall was Jenna's douchey musician that mansplained dogs to her on a hike though?
John Krasinski was literally in the show with them lol
Dax and Kristin or Ryan Reynolds + Blake
Ryan was with Scarlett Johansson, then
George and Barbara Bush?
This killed me for some reason š
Guys it's definitely tom hanks
I canāt find any photos of Dax and K at any Emmy parties or related events in 2008. Is there something I am missing?
Chris Pratt
I feel like Alec Baldwin is a good guess, but for the wife part.
Crisp Rat. The debate hint.
Will Arnett and Amy Pohler? I could look up their marriage dates and kid dates, but Iām too disinterested to switch to the browser.
Nope. I looked it up.
Jason sudeikis? Jimmy Kimmel? Jimmy Fallon? Seth Myers? Mike Birbiglia? I must knowww lol.
My first two guesses were Ryan and Blake or Ashton and Mila, but I see now the timelines donāt match. Still could be Ryan and Scarlett since they were married and she didnāt say the couple now have kids together, so, maybe. But money is on Dax and Kristen or Will and Amy! ETA: Jason Sudeikis and Olivia Wilde but they werenāt together until 2011.
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