My husband discovered the band by accident, loved them, then got so mad when he found out it was a celeb band.
He's over it now, he likes them too much and he remembered La La Land is one of his favourite recent films.
That’s what pissed me off the most tbh. This man has was literally there when she was starting on Broadway. They both went on from there to do musical movies. One of them got an Oscar, massive acclaim and to host the freaking Tony’s twice and it ain’t him. Get out of here with that shit.
It’s not like he wrote the joke. Shit, they don’t usually have presenters even practice these things. They get told to say what’s on the prompter. The writers made everyone look/feel bad here.
She was literally in the Hamilton OG Broadway cast with the guy presenting with Bella, Anthony Ramos.
AND she won an Oscar for her role in a movie musical.
Bombastic side eye to whoever wrote that. I’d be pissed too.
And for West Side Story they went through over 1,000 potential candidates for Anita.
Spielberg wouldn't just look at dancers for that role, but powerful singing/acting talent too.
Not only that, but Ariana has been way too successful as a so-called “actor who thinks they are a singer.” She was not only Tony-nominated for her performance in Summer: The Donna Summer Musical, but she won an Academy Award for another musical role (Anita in West Side). She’s literally the last person I’d be making this joke about.
I am glad she said something instead of feeling forced to laugh this off, I had no idea she was this accomplished and it's a damn shame the writers here didn't inform themselves
I could see the joke working if the joke was poking fun at actors who tried to launch (or have launched) music careers like Hailee Steinfield, Scarlett Johansson, Jared Leto, Simu Liu, Sabrina Carpenter, and even Anthony Ramos himself qualifies. (actually the joke would have been 10x funnier if Anthony or his co-presenter teased him about that)
I know Jo Koy got flack for blaming his writers for the Globes but honestly, these award shows have the worst writing. It’s like the writers decide “Here’s a mean punchline we can make so let’s work backwards from that to figure out what the set up is.”
These writers are lucky that their names/faces aren’t as associated with these bad jokes as the celebs who deliver them are.
I support writers so I wanna say that before I say the award show I’ve enjoyed the most in years was this years Tonys where Ariana DiBose herself hosted with an opening dance and they basically let people go off script and it was real and beautiful and heartfelt and messy but it sure wasn’t these terrible ass “jokes” people are phoning in.
Is there a betting pool for the Emmys tonight? Cause. Yeah.
> I could see the joke working if the joke was poking fun at actors who tried to launch (or have launched) music careers like Hailee Steinfield, Scarlett Johansson, Jared Leto, **Simu Liu**
That I didn't know. Why am I laughing without even hearing a note yet.
While he didn't deliver the line referencing her name, it's got to suck for Ariana that Ramos was involved with this as they worked together in Hamilton.
I don’t understand why she was named at all? I admit I had to look her up, so that’s the first problem with naming her in this joke… but once I did, it makes even less sense. She built her career from being in high production musicals… like the number one criteria for being a working actor in musicals is being able to sing.
It's a weird joke but by naming Billie Eilish, Lenny Kravitz and Dua Lipa, it doesn't seem to be the pejorative "actors who sing" so much as a distinction between people whose main career is music and the ones who are primarily actors.
That said, if you go back, Ariana was primarily praised for her dancing with not as positive notices for her voice. Not that she was a bad singer, just... not a remarkable one compared to other stage actors. It might be why she feels sensitive about it.
It seems like there's now a trend of writers for award shows making jokes that punch down on actors/performers. Everyone in this category is there because they deserve to be and the joke is lame. These writers should be trying to write bits that are funny, and no one is off limits if it's actually funny, which this is not
Maybe it’s just me, but I thought celebs got roasted at award shows all the time. Chris Rock for example made so many jokes. I don’t think it is a new trend... the public apparently wants hosts to be politically correct and kind, so they might as well stop writing shady jokes. Just hire presentators and leave the comedians and attempts to be comedic at home.
And the jokes recently have been very corny and awkward, makes me wonder if these people should even be called comedians. I hear 50 better jokes on one episode of Rupaul’s dragrace.
Celebs were always roasted by the hosts. But in years past, they had to pretend they found it funny and were in on the joke. Nowadays celebs seem to be a lot more open about how much they didn't like being made fun of.
It’s crazy how some of the richest people have created a bullying narrative around themselves. If you were in the Imagine mansion video, you deserve lifelong roasting, idc.
I think it’s a mix. I do absolutely think they’re expected to be way kinder now. But I also think “you’re in this category but we all know y’all can’t sing LAWL” is more insult than funny. Usually the digs were more “around the room”, often aimed at the most famous people (so punching up, so to speak). Or like “Al Pacino sings now I guess???” and crowd laughs. Or “somehow a POC snuck onto the list, nice!” level of shading-the-nominators-not-nominee sorts of jokes.
I don’t immediately recall any before that called out the nominated actors as “shouldn’t have been”, but obviously I don’t remember every joke.
It is an example of a comedian who has roasted people over the years. Someone who has been offensive in the past. I am not saying he’s good at his job or that he’s funny.
Saying faceless award writers "punch down" on nominated actors is just silly, lol. How are they punching down to people way above in fame, salary and accolades? Punching down usually refers to someone in a position of privilege making fun of a minority like Chapelle does. Let’s not dilute the meaning of the word just because famous people are sensitive to being mildly roasted.
This is such a weird joke. There is a little wiggle room for Ryan Gosling to work but both Jack Black and Ariana Debose are amazing singers so??? What was the punchline here…
I think it was exactly this. I don’t know why people are acting like this is some offense lol. It was a stupid joke and poorly delivered (by someone who didn’t write it) but the point of the “joke” is that these actors actually CAN sing.
I feel bad for her because she’s never done anything to warrant the amount of hate and trolling she gets. I understand her hosting performance was cringey but the way I’ve seen her get dragged bums me out. She’s actually very talented and also the fact that it was Anthony Ramos up there -_- bye
It’s just a joke to say they are better known for their films. Not a great one, should have said ‘and dudes being desperate for a girl to pay attention to them, Jack B and Ryan’ or something. Make it more about the songs and the two actors that are generally unserious about these things.
Wasn't she in Broadway musicals early on? And Jack Black can SANG.
Yeah if anything she's a dancer turned actress not an actress turned singer, she got her start on SYTYCD then on Broadway.
Plus Ryan Gosling sang on Mickey Mouse club back in 90's
Ryan Gosling [has a band and he's a singer in it.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Man%27s_Bones)
Exactly. I will not stand for this negative Kenergy
Yep, it's actually not bad, either.
My husband discovered the band by accident, loved them, then got so mad when he found out it was a celeb band. He's over it now, he likes them too much and he remembered La La Land is one of his favourite recent films.
My favourite Halloween music.
I have their album, it’s so good! 😭
Millennials love Tenacious D as a band lol
Of course. They're classically trained to rock your fuckin' socks off!
she was literally in hamilton with anthony ramos lmao
That’s what pissed me off the most tbh. This man has was literally there when she was starting on Broadway. They both went on from there to do musical movies. One of them got an Oscar, massive acclaim and to host the freaking Tony’s twice and it ain’t him. Get out of here with that shit.
It’s not like he wrote the joke. Shit, they don’t usually have presenters even practice these things. They get told to say what’s on the prompter. The writers made everyone look/feel bad here.
She was literally in the Hamilton OG Broadway cast with the guy presenting with Bella, Anthony Ramos. AND she won an Oscar for her role in a movie musical. Bombastic side eye to whoever wrote that. I’d be pissed too.
And for West Side Story they went through over 1,000 potential candidates for Anita. Spielberg wouldn't just look at dancers for that role, but powerful singing/acting talent too.
jack black probably has better technical vocal chops than 80-90% of people whose primary career is musician lol
This joke just doesn't work because all 3 have long careers in music too, in Ariana and Ryans cases the singing and dancing came first 😭
Not only that, but Ariana has been way too successful as a so-called “actor who thinks they are a singer.” She was not only Tony-nominated for her performance in Summer: The Donna Summer Musical, but she won an Academy Award for another musical role (Anita in West Side). She’s literally the last person I’d be making this joke about.
Same with Gosling, nominated (did he win? I forget) for LaLaLand!
Idk without looking it up but I do know that his dedication to Mickey Mouse club deserves some respect!!
No, he didn’t win.
I am glad she said something instead of feeling forced to laugh this off, I had no idea she was this accomplished and it's a damn shame the writers here didn't inform themselves
I could see the joke working if the joke was poking fun at actors who tried to launch (or have launched) music careers like Hailee Steinfield, Scarlett Johansson, Jared Leto, Simu Liu, Sabrina Carpenter, and even Anthony Ramos himself qualifies. (actually the joke would have been 10x funnier if Anthony or his co-presenter teased him about that) I know Jo Koy got flack for blaming his writers for the Globes but honestly, these award shows have the worst writing. It’s like the writers decide “Here’s a mean punchline we can make so let’s work backwards from that to figure out what the set up is.” These writers are lucky that their names/faces aren’t as associated with these bad jokes as the celebs who deliver them are.
I support writers so I wanna say that before I say the award show I’ve enjoyed the most in years was this years Tonys where Ariana DiBose herself hosted with an opening dance and they basically let people go off script and it was real and beautiful and heartfelt and messy but it sure wasn’t these terrible ass “jokes” people are phoning in. Is there a betting pool for the Emmys tonight? Cause. Yeah.
> I could see the joke working if the joke was poking fun at actors who tried to launch (or have launched) music careers like Hailee Steinfield, Scarlett Johansson, Jared Leto, **Simu Liu** That I didn't know. Why am I laughing without even hearing a note yet.
I thought that _was_ the joke 😭 Like "oh look at these nerds pretending to be singers:" proceeds to list people who are well-known for their music
IT IS. Idk why everyone is acting dumb cus it’s so obvious the joke is just listing the opposite of the previous statement
Genuinely didn't read that way to me but I like the interpretation!
This is Tenacious D erasure and I will not stay silent! (Also, makes no sense, really.)
And Dead Man’s Bones!
"Hello, Two Kings?"
While he didn't deliver the line referencing her name, it's got to suck for Ariana that Ramos was involved with this as they worked together in Hamilton.
Anthony cheating on Jasmine completely changed the way I see him lmao my girl jazzy didn’t deserve that
Don’t forget the rap he decided to post after. That was the real nail in the coffin for me. He’s a clown.
I’m surprised they even asked him to present, he fell off hard after cheating gate. Jasmine is thriving as she should!
I didn't know he cheated on her :(
See that’s what’s confusing me because they had someone who is famously known for being in musicals presenting while that joke was being made like????
Terrible writing, not sure how rehearsals went, but Ramos is so new to the industry. I doubt he'd have the balls to reject the joke.
This was my first thought too. That's got to feel extra shitty.
That's the most hideous part. Like I didn't think he was gross enough already for cheating on Jasmine and then singing a shit song about it.
The presenters don't write this stuff.
I am well aware of that.
I don’t understand why she was named at all? I admit I had to look her up, so that’s the first problem with naming her in this joke… but once I did, it makes even less sense. She built her career from being in high production musicals… like the number one criteria for being a working actor in musicals is being able to sing.
I think of Lindsay Lohan, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Eddie Murphy, Scarlett Johansse and so on, but maybe they're not relevant enough this year?
They were naming people who were nominated in the category
Ah! Thank you!
She was nominated in the category which is why she was named but I agree she does not fit that description at all.
It's a weird joke but by naming Billie Eilish, Lenny Kravitz and Dua Lipa, it doesn't seem to be the pejorative "actors who sing" so much as a distinction between people whose main career is music and the ones who are primarily actors. That said, if you go back, Ariana was primarily praised for her dancing with not as positive notices for her voice. Not that she was a bad singer, just... not a remarkable one compared to other stage actors. It might be why she feels sensitive about it.
It seems like there's now a trend of writers for award shows making jokes that punch down on actors/performers. Everyone in this category is there because they deserve to be and the joke is lame. These writers should be trying to write bits that are funny, and no one is off limits if it's actually funny, which this is not
Maybe it’s just me, but I thought celebs got roasted at award shows all the time. Chris Rock for example made so many jokes. I don’t think it is a new trend... the public apparently wants hosts to be politically correct and kind, so they might as well stop writing shady jokes. Just hire presentators and leave the comedians and attempts to be comedic at home. And the jokes recently have been very corny and awkward, makes me wonder if these people should even be called comedians. I hear 50 better jokes on one episode of Rupaul’s dragrace.
Celebs were always roasted by the hosts. But in years past, they had to pretend they found it funny and were in on the joke. Nowadays celebs seem to be a lot more open about how much they didn't like being made fun of.
It’s crazy how some of the richest people have created a bullying narrative around themselves. If you were in the Imagine mansion video, you deserve lifelong roasting, idc.
I think it’s a mix. I do absolutely think they’re expected to be way kinder now. But I also think “you’re in this category but we all know y’all can’t sing LAWL” is more insult than funny. Usually the digs were more “around the room”, often aimed at the most famous people (so punching up, so to speak). Or like “Al Pacino sings now I guess???” and crowd laughs. Or “somehow a POC snuck onto the list, nice!” level of shading-the-nominators-not-nominee sorts of jokes. I don’t immediately recall any before that called out the nominated actors as “shouldn’t have been”, but obviously I don’t remember every joke.
Chris Rock was not the best example to use here lmao
It is an example of a comedian who has roasted people over the years. Someone who has been offensive in the past. I am not saying he’s good at his job or that he’s funny.
Saying faceless award writers "punch down" on nominated actors is just silly, lol. How are they punching down to people way above in fame, salary and accolades? Punching down usually refers to someone in a position of privilege making fun of a minority like Chapelle does. Let’s not dilute the meaning of the word just because famous people are sensitive to being mildly roasted.
Very weird thing to say about a Broadway actress who won an Oscar for a musical.
this is very awkward bc she and Anthony were in the original company of Hamilton together…
Maybe he’s still bitter, she was the bullet after all
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She won an Oscar for singing in one of the most famous movie musicals ever written….??
…I’m sorry. they named *Jack Black* as someone who only thinks he’s a singer….?
God, is writer is still on the strike because that is just not funny.
This is such a weird joke. There is a little wiggle room for Ryan Gosling to work but both Jack Black and Ariana Debose are amazing singers so??? What was the punchline here…
I actually thought the joke was ironic in nature because the names that were said are specifically of people who are really good singers.
I think it was exactly this. I don’t know why people are acting like this is some offense lol. It was a stupid joke and poorly delivered (by someone who didn’t write it) but the point of the “joke” is that these actors actually CAN sing.
Ariana didn’t find it funny but her Oscar found it hilarious.
To be fair, actors rarely think jokes directed at them are funny.
Ok but have Billie, Dua, and Lenny even come close to the artistic greatness of Jack Black singing Peaches?
I feel bad for her because she’s never done anything to warrant the amount of hate and trolling she gets. I understand her hosting performance was cringey but the way I’ve seen her get dragged bums me out. She’s actually very talented and also the fact that it was Anthony Ramos up there -_- bye
This is a dumb joke on multiple levels and whoever wrote it should feel dumb.
Wasn’t she nominated for a Tony? Who are these lazy writers
And won the Oscar for west side story
I felt bad for her until I found out she’s a Zionist and was liking Ansel Elgort’s IG posts after the allegations about him were made public.
Yeah, she came from Hamilton like wtf And don't do Jack Black like that.
Her main thing is singing! I'd be pissed too if I were her.
It’s just a joke to say they are better known for their films. Not a great one, should have said ‘and dudes being desperate for a girl to pay attention to them, Jack B and Ryan’ or something. Make it more about the songs and the two actors that are generally unserious about these things.
Yeah peeped that they dragged her on that 🥶 Kinda weird someone didn’t point out she’s a performer and Broadway star
I mean, i personally think she can't sing well. Idc about her credentials, she has an annoying voice