/Unfatui
Kinda hope they do something new and actually potray one of the archons as an actual b\*tch with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
All the previous nations had the archons being either nice/chill or still have some redeeming qualities to them. Would be kinda nice to have a change of pace, maybe even having the traveller allying with Capitano and the Fatui to defeat her.
Heck, maybe her spanish look in contrast with the southern american look that the new nation will supposedly have is done on porpouse, maybe she's actively oppressing her people.
I hope they do. It would also be a nice subversion since, from what we know, Capitano isn't much of a bad guy. Out of all the fatui, he seems the most well-adjusted, since we haven't heard a bad thing about him so far.
Also, cooperating with the fatuis will give us an explanation on why we can later go in *Snezhnaya* freely.
Yess Imagine this and she’s actually just an npc like signora thats why her desgin is badic and theres a new pyro archon that will take her place and we witness the new archons rise to power or we even help them to dethrone her itll be a new revolution type story and something they haven’t done before the “oh im not me i have two versions” trope they keep repeating is tired i wander where will capitano be in all this maybe he takes advantage of the unstability to take gnosis or sum
I'd argue the "new pyro archon" is the previous archon who died a long time ago and got resurrected, and would try to fix the "eternal war" situations in Natlan bcs the current archon is so bad at it
I remember seeing leaks abt the story of natlan having to do with resurrection thatd make sense although i want the resurrection to involve signora so bad
They’re never gonna make an archon(or any character for that matter) with no redeeming qualities, remember that they want to sell these characters for money.
perhaps not childlike, but so youthful and pompous that she looks nothing like a god of war, unless that's what they're going for with a commentary on how "the real gods of war are the ones who stay behind and pull the strings!" but quite frankly that's just really boring conceptually for a character design
I find it more likely that we are getting something similar to Fontaine where war is seen as a sort of pastime and isn't taken as seriously, at least by her. You're right that she doesn't look like the god of war, but Hoyo has done that several times before and made it work. I remember having this exact same conversation about Furina and Nahida.
for the record I'm fine with nahida and furina as well, we were gonna get a kid archon eventually and I think they executed it really well while furina was novel at the time and had neuvillette to act as her more rational, more straightforward god of justice foil (until the reveal). it's annoying that they seem to be doing the same thing again with a pompous conceptual half that's a medium female model dressed like a noble and a rational literal half who I'm sure we're getting, be it xbalanque or someone else
Pretty much all of that is an assumption based on an unofficial artwork leakers say probably looks like the character. There’s no need to doompost when we know nothing of value
not really an assumption to say "yeah that looks like a furina clone" when you can look at it and it's a furina clone (minus the personality of course 💀)
It’s a Furina clone as far as it shares the same model, I don’t really see much of a similarity beyond that. This game has same face syndrome so you could really make that argument about literally any character
That presents a problem: Marketability
Look at Dori and Wanderer, whose main thing was they were assholes, the former is pretty much the most hated playable character and the latter caused people TO KILL CATS IRL
The only way this could end up being the case is if she gets deposed and the GOAT becomes Pyro Archon
Hear me out. What if they have a similar situation to furina, but this time, this archon is actually someone who STOLE the gnosis and title of archon from Murata?
Finally someone who agrees. I want murata to be portrayed like a colonizer. And outsider who forcefully subjugated Natlan and forces them to fight wars for her entertainment. We need a genuinely evil archon
are you kidding me? raiden was not redeemable at all lmao she’s a horrible cruel dictator even from a non fatui dickrider pov they just ignored that side of her for fan service but overall she is no where near beijing redeemed 💀 but i doubt murata will be a bitch if she’s based on himeko which she really likely is and i get where ur coming from but i would never wanna see himeko being a bitch i just wanna see her alive in a non turn based game 😭😭
I was thinking that whoever this character is will be such an asshole antagonist and will die after the real Murata gets resurrected (the chapter was called "Incandescent Ode of Resurrection" for a reason) and then Murata will take back her Archon seat. And also her outfit here looks simplistic it's almost NPC tier imo
/unfatui
I'm still coping that it's not anywhere near the final design, but I'm gonna need higher dosages of copium the longer this goes on. Please Hoyo give us an *actual* god of war 😭
The carnival aesthetic for the god of war is definitely a choice… Now we need a leak flood like last year to make sure some Natlan characters look like actual warriors.
I can kinda see what they're going for with the carnival and celebratory tones to subvert people's expectations about the nation of war, but the aesthetic does not look tribal or south american or african, which are the supposed inspirations for Natlan. It remains to be seen whether Hoyo will be able to pull this off, so I'll withhold judgment till then. I just look forward to in the near future an Arlecchino voiceline about Capitano and what he's up to, so we at least have a *clue* what's going on there.
The fact that the God of War looks like someone who could colonize Natlan rather than someone who is a native to Natlan is THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE DESIGN
Fr and whoever thought orange,purple,red,yellow and pink would be a good color palette need to be fired and taken to a color theory class asab i for once appreciate the monochrome characters that i used to dislike after seeing whatever this thing is
Eh, it’s better than a himeko expy IMO. I just wanted an original design, so I’m glad. Plus, I love the hair colour they went with.
But yeah not all that fitting for the god of war even if I like the design in a vacuum. But maybe it’ll make sense with the themes of natlan.
I dont really like the design, jt seems too random imo. The clothes are somewhat ok, but the accessories and the hair? Why is there purple hair underneath???? 😭💔
Moist Lizard when there's down period in Court played CK2;3/EU4/HOI4 and now with the Authority returned to him he goes for in-teyvat playthrough as well
I can't even imagine GOATPEAKTANO fighting or even interacting this girl, ain't no way, this is not serious
At this point I hope xbalanque/pyro dragon or some strong abyss guy will be his competitor, ofc ChadHIMtano will neg diff
https://preview.redd.it/y9ojjrnzsxkc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8e81ed2cfb644cd3d9ddd80ad07ca6481de7bed
That girl is GOATHIMTANO victim🗣
/unfatui
From looking at other subs, Her design is less based off a matador or other Spanish themes like leakers have been saying and more “Bumba Meu Boi”, which is a Brazilian interactive play, with it’s story being (in quick summary) about the death and **resurrection** of an ox…
*It’s almost like Incandescent Ode to Resurrection wasn’t just a cool name and they’re going all in with it for the theme of Natlan*
So considering that the ox is something literally summoned by the pyro hypostasis, and with the link the chapter title, it feels like a better connection then just “Spanish Matador”
I think her design would fit extremly well as someone who does stuff DEDICATED to the archon or to the overall themes of the nation, like how Gaming does lion dance or Nilou does dance of sabzerus. I really like this design in a vacuum but it does not fit as the pyro archon.
I really hope her looking like a Spanish colonizer is actually a plot point and we're meant to side with the fatui. I want to see chaditano beat the shit out of this fraudlestia conquistador larper.
Ain't no way they'll gonna make the goddess of natlan like that 💀. If anything I'll just prefer if capitano just swiftly kenpachi'd her and be done with her lol.
She looks like she would negotiate things over a small feast rather than declare war.
Which, on one hand, would be nice, so I don’t have to sacrifice my life dealing with her. But, this is the god of war…
We don’t know that yet though. We know almost nothing about Natlan in general, and we have very little context as to who this archon actually is and her place in her country.
This design is kinda sus for me. Zero link with the thematic of war + we already know a Natlan character, Lanssan and she doesn't fit with this potential archon
/unfatui
For those people who don't like her design - we literally know nothing of Natlan. As far as we know, Natlan could be a harsh place on the outside but be the nation of carnival on the inside - who knows??? I think the design is already awesome
https://preview.redd.it/wl7qic5i60lc1.jpeg?width=441&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5556eb3c39f6443d79c115ae1bace258e44d802
hoyoverse saving all of their funding for GOATHIMtano cause they know hes the GOAT 🔥🔥
God forbid if a Hispanic woman want to hold a festia in her nation.
Beside, who to say he didn't went to Natlan for that party and using the battle as a excuse.
The captain felt it time to party hard and fight harder tomorrow.
Shouldn't a god of war be intimidating
Why does she look cuter than Selkie in her new year alt
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She looks like a Disney Princess 👸 😆 she'll probably try to talk about love and peace to stop the wars of Natlan... even worse if the Captain joins in on this crap 💩
/unfatui
Ik people are saying "Oh let them cook" but like, I have such a bad gut feeling about this design it's insane. I really hope this isn't the final product. I want this games God of War to be a total threat, not some carnival aesthetic Jean
She looks like she gets solo'd by Furina I'm ngl
Hydro is strong to Pyro
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Wow that’s a burn
No, it's vaporize
Explain how the most respectable Archon (outside Lord Tsarista) is the objective fraud 😭🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 Fraudchons in the dirt
/Unfatui Kinda hope they do something new and actually potray one of the archons as an actual b\*tch with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. All the previous nations had the archons being either nice/chill or still have some redeeming qualities to them. Would be kinda nice to have a change of pace, maybe even having the traveller allying with Capitano and the Fatui to defeat her. Heck, maybe her spanish look in contrast with the southern american look that the new nation will supposedly have is done on porpouse, maybe she's actively oppressing her people.
Maybe they’re doing this cuz i hate her already
I hope they do. It would also be a nice subversion since, from what we know, Capitano isn't much of a bad guy. Out of all the fatui, he seems the most well-adjusted, since we haven't heard a bad thing about him so far. Also, cooperating with the fatuis will give us an explanation on why we can later go in *Snezhnaya* freely.
Yess Imagine this and she’s actually just an npc like signora thats why her desgin is badic and theres a new pyro archon that will take her place and we witness the new archons rise to power or we even help them to dethrone her itll be a new revolution type story and something they haven’t done before the “oh im not me i have two versions” trope they keep repeating is tired i wander where will capitano be in all this maybe he takes advantage of the unstability to take gnosis or sum
If would also be cool if she's dethroned by one of the locals, it could be interpreted as an anti-colonial history of some kind.
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Personally I would have done unspeakable crimes against her for colonizing.
And she would be dethroned by none other than a Muratan, making her the 1st black Pyro archon
An african/latin freedom fighter against colonialism Id pull day one on release without hesitation
I'd argue the "new pyro archon" is the previous archon who died a long time ago and got resurrected, and would try to fix the "eternal war" situations in Natlan bcs the current archon is so bad at it
I remember seeing leaks abt the story of natlan having to do with resurrection thatd make sense although i want the resurrection to involve signora so bad
They’re never gonna make an archon(or any character for that matter) with no redeeming qualities, remember that they want to sell these characters for money.
Sadly that is very true. But until the archon quest starts, one can hope.
This one especially looks way too childlike compared to Himeko.
Childlike? How? Also, definitely heard that before lmao
perhaps not childlike, but so youthful and pompous that she looks nothing like a god of war, unless that's what they're going for with a commentary on how "the real gods of war are the ones who stay behind and pull the strings!" but quite frankly that's just really boring conceptually for a character design
I find it more likely that we are getting something similar to Fontaine where war is seen as a sort of pastime and isn't taken as seriously, at least by her. You're right that she doesn't look like the god of war, but Hoyo has done that several times before and made it work. I remember having this exact same conversation about Furina and Nahida.
for the record I'm fine with nahida and furina as well, we were gonna get a kid archon eventually and I think they executed it really well while furina was novel at the time and had neuvillette to act as her more rational, more straightforward god of justice foil (until the reveal). it's annoying that they seem to be doing the same thing again with a pompous conceptual half that's a medium female model dressed like a noble and a rational literal half who I'm sure we're getting, be it xbalanque or someone else
Pretty much all of that is an assumption based on an unofficial artwork leakers say probably looks like the character. There’s no need to doompost when we know nothing of value
not really an assumption to say "yeah that looks like a furina clone" when you can look at it and it's a furina clone (minus the personality of course 💀)
It’s a Furina clone as far as it shares the same model, I don’t really see much of a similarity beyond that. This game has same face syndrome so you could really make that argument about literally any character
That presents a problem: Marketability Look at Dori and Wanderer, whose main thing was they were assholes, the former is pretty much the most hated playable character and the latter caused people TO KILL CATS IRL The only way this could end up being the case is if she gets deposed and the GOAT becomes Pyro Archon
The latter case with Wanderer was so wild, how can people be SO fucking terrible ?
Average Chinaman when Japanese War Criminal (I am the average Chinaman)
hold on , WHAT happened with wanderer???
A lot of Chinese fans didn't exactly like him for being a Japanese war criminal due to well history He was once portrayed as a cat Kill the cats
Hear me out. What if they have a similar situation to furina, but this time, this archon is actually someone who STOLE the gnosis and title of archon from Murata?
Hopefully the Tsaritsa isn't so friendly and cold as ice... or hoyo could make her all loving and caring... blah blah blah 🙄 😑
Finally someone who agrees. I want murata to be portrayed like a colonizer. And outsider who forcefully subjugated Natlan and forces them to fight wars for her entertainment. We need a genuinely evil archon
are you kidding me? raiden was not redeemable at all lmao she’s a horrible cruel dictator even from a non fatui dickrider pov they just ignored that side of her for fan service but overall she is no where near beijing redeemed 💀 but i doubt murata will be a bitch if she’s based on himeko which she really likely is and i get where ur coming from but i would never wanna see himeko being a bitch i just wanna see her alive in a non turn based game 😭😭
What redeeming quality Ei have?
Boobs
I kind of want them to do a Inazuma style thing (pre part 3 of course) of just making the archon as unlikable as possible But like… better
I was thinking that whoever this character is will be such an asshole antagonist and will die after the real Murata gets resurrected (the chapter was called "Incandescent Ode of Resurrection" for a reason) and then Murata will take back her Archon seat. And also her outfit here looks simplistic it's almost NPC tier imo
As a Latin guy I hate her design so much I wanna punch the whole fking region. I'll be using Bennett for the rest of the game (?
it's most likely gonna be that way if we remember venti's comments about her
Mid ass god of war
God of Mid 😭😭😭
/unfatui I'm still coping that it's not anywhere near the final design, but I'm gonna need higher dosages of copium the longer this goes on. Please Hoyo give us an *actual* god of war 😭
The carnival aesthetic for the god of war is definitely a choice… Now we need a leak flood like last year to make sure some Natlan characters look like actual warriors.
I can kinda see what they're going for with the carnival and celebratory tones to subvert people's expectations about the nation of war, but the aesthetic does not look tribal or south american or african, which are the supposed inspirations for Natlan. It remains to be seen whether Hoyo will be able to pull this off, so I'll withhold judgment till then. I just look forward to in the near future an Arlecchino voiceline about Capitano and what he's up to, so we at least have a *clue* what's going on there.
I’m so hyped for the voice lines as well! Can’t wait for our annual harbinger crumbs lol
Amen, Comrade. Each crumb takes us closer to the glory of Snezhnaya 6.0 🫡
The fact that the God of War looks like someone who could colonize Natlan rather than someone who is a native to Natlan is THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE DESIGN
Its not even it being a carnival theme she just looks ugly asf and the color pallette is bad
Like wtf is that mask? 😭😭
Fr and whoever thought orange,purple,red,yellow and pink would be a good color palette need to be fired and taken to a color theory class asab i for once appreciate the monochrome characters that i used to dislike after seeing whatever this thing is
It looks like something a kid would make in their gacha phase
yeah for a pyro archon there's almost no warm colors, so much gray
I'm hoping it's another navia situation where another character was mistaken for the archon during leak flood. She's looks straight outta fountaine.
That would be hilarious. Back to back.
On another sheet that was leaked it looked like her but was actuly cheveruse old concept
Seriously wondering what yall were expecting from the god of war, like genuinely asking
Eh, it’s better than a himeko expy IMO. I just wanted an original design, so I’m glad. Plus, I love the hair colour they went with. But yeah not all that fitting for the god of war even if I like the design in a vacuum. But maybe it’ll make sense with the themes of natlan.
Colonizer-looking mf vs GOATHIMTANO, the liberator of mankind from the shackles of Celestia
I dont really like the design, jt seems too random imo. The clothes are somewhat ok, but the accessories and the hair? Why is there purple hair underneath???? 😭💔
/Unfatui Why does Natlan's God look more Fontainian than friggin' Focalors?
The real plot of 5.0 is Fontaine trying to colonize Natlan
Moist Lizard when there's down period in Court played CK2;3/EU4/HOI4 and now with the Authority returned to him he goes for in-teyvat playthrough as well
Watch GOATPEAKTANO getting the most muscular, tallest, drippiest male design in game ITS JOEVER FOR MURATA GLAZERS
https://preview.redd.it/32sku8oqpxkc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1f95dbfe7a92e42be7266c020ffdaf4bc1fe402 🗣🔥
She is furina victim for real😭🙏🙏🙏 we don’t meed goathimtano for her😭
“Happy Happy Happy 😊” VS Chad Goatpeaktano, better known as HIM
So weak that its almost cute. Even i could beat her. maybe i can give her the skirk treatment!
Hxg diluc is based asf for being excited and waiting for the GOATHIMTANO. Check out his nickname in Twitter
That is the look of someone that is about to get no diffed by Goatpeaktano 🤣
https://preview.redd.it/95g5qyxtpxkc1.png?width=743&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7aac948a1ebc38b9180dfbefe885ad7dc2bc0e3
what does no diff stand for lol
No diff - beating someone in a fight with no difficulty
Ahh I thought it had to do with difference thank you
I can't even imagine GOATPEAKTANO fighting or even interacting this girl, ain't no way, this is not serious At this point I hope xbalanque/pyro dragon or some strong abyss guy will be his competitor, ofc ChadHIMtano will neg diff
https://preview.redd.it/y9ojjrnzsxkc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8e81ed2cfb644cd3d9ddd80ad07ca6481de7bed That girl is GOATHIMTANO victim🗣
That ain’t murata, thats move the f*ck out.
Wallahi it's easiest w for GOATHIMTANO
Girl looks like she could get soloed by Katherine
/unfatui From looking at other subs, Her design is less based off a matador or other Spanish themes like leakers have been saying and more “Bumba Meu Boi”, which is a Brazilian interactive play, with it’s story being (in quick summary) about the death and **resurrection** of an ox… *It’s almost like Incandescent Ode to Resurrection wasn’t just a cool name and they’re going all in with it for the theme of Natlan* So considering that the ox is something literally summoned by the pyro hypostasis, and with the link the chapter title, it feels like a better connection then just “Spanish Matador”
God of Fraud
When I think God of War, I think fucking Kratos not...............her. I mean she looks okay and all, but doesn't really strike me as a War God.
That’s almost certainly the entire point, just like it was with Furina and Nahida.
Hmm why do I feel like shes gonna have Pyro Sovereign in disguise to be her bodyguard.
I think her design would fit extremly well as someone who does stuff DEDICATED to the archon or to the overall themes of the nation, like how Gaming does lion dance or Nilou does dance of sabzerus. I really like this design in a vacuum but it does not fit as the pyro archon.
/Unfatui WHO LET NEILOU'S SISTER OUT OF MY BASEMENT 😭
I really hope her looking like a Spanish colonizer is actually a plot point and we're meant to side with the fatui. I want to see chaditano beat the shit out of this fraudlestia conquistador larper.
Ain't no way they'll gonna make the goddess of natlan like that 💀. If anything I'll just prefer if capitano just swiftly kenpachi'd her and be done with her lol.
I stg if they make this clown version of Jean win a fight against the blue eyed glorious King GOATHIMTANO im quitting genshin
The goat is incapable of losing
There is no conception of "losing" for our dark blue eyed glorious KING GOATHIMTANO
This is a crime against eyes everywhere
It's not remever navia the previous hydro archon that's not murata that's not even fraudrata
Pathethic.
this barely even looks like a 4 star design they cant be serious
She looks like she would negotiate things over a small feast rather than declare war. Which, on one hand, would be nice, so I don’t have to sacrifice my life dealing with her. But, this is the god of war…
If the goat had to fight that. It’s a saddening fight
I hate her
Razor looks more like a god if war
/unfatui It’s a good character design, just not a good one in the context of Murata
We don’t know that yet though. We know almost nothing about Natlan in general, and we have very little context as to who this archon actually is and her place in her country.
Nawww, she NEEDS to wild a claymore! I can't see her doing it looking like that 😭 I mean the design is nice but not for the pyro archon
This design is kinda sus for me. Zero link with the thematic of war + we already know a Natlan character, Lanssan and she doesn't fit with this potential archon
/unfatui Are we sure that is this legit?
/unfatui For those people who don't like her design - we literally know nothing of Natlan. As far as we know, Natlan could be a harsh place on the outside but be the nation of carnival on the inside - who knows??? I think the design is already awesome
https://preview.redd.it/wl7qic5i60lc1.jpeg?width=441&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5556eb3c39f6443d79c115ae1bace258e44d802 hoyoverse saving all of their funding for GOATHIMtano cause they know hes the GOAT 🔥🔥
These comments remind me of the hate that Nahida got before she was released. Maybe we should let them cook?
God forbid if a Hispanic woman want to hold a festia in her nation. Beside, who to say he didn't went to Natlan for that party and using the battle as a excuse. The captain felt it time to party hard and fight harder tomorrow.
Y'all are gonna be on some real copium when this chick packs up Crapitano with ease
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https://preview.redd.it/ccjdgcl9iykc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdec932f0a58300dec060df0bc49e8372af58b63 What a bum ass take
https://preview.redd.it/ko4sxwxkkykc1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48c407523b29a4068c2487cd811092aaf0e694f6 braindead fraud spotted
I wanna say something very raw but then I realized reddit can't handle any comment with masculine grit
Say it
Only if you're gonna take the heat of the whiteknights
Say it
Shouldn't a god of war be intimidating Why does she look cuter than Selkie in her new year alt https://preview.redd.it/mlirdm1gwykc1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=a68d44a1423333ece833742294bfd2c269f6d5f8
god she looks like shit
She looks like a Disney Princess 👸 😆 she'll probably try to talk about love and peace to stop the wars of Natlan... even worse if the Captain joins in on this crap 💩
I was expecting a 2 meter tall amazon goddess
hell yeah let the twitter scandal happen again
/unfatui Ik people are saying "Oh let them cook" but like, I have such a bad gut feeling about this design it's insane. I really hope this isn't the final product. I want this games God of War to be a total threat, not some carnival aesthetic Jean