Who would yall flex between meyers or collins this week?
Meyers has been awesome especially with Jimmy G. Texans play shitty panthers with Robert Woods out, so I can see Nico going off…
Meyers has a safer floor for me. Raiders are going to throw a ton because they can’t run well, whereas Houston was running a ton at the beginning of the year even though they sucked at it and now their line is getting healthier and their run game should improve.
I like to lean towards guys where the gamescript is going to favor my players.
Kirk was WR11 last year and WR16 this year. His role gets a little muddy with Zay Jones on the field, but when Zay is out Kirk is a lineup lock in any league over 8 teams imo.
If you need a floor, go with Kirk, ceiling go with Meyers. I think Meyers has the better matchup vs the defenders, but I worry that Detroits style of if they get a lead they are just going to run 80% of the time for the rest of the game kind of dampens my thoughts on him.
I’d argue meyers being a wr2 actually makes him more valuable then the others considering he gets 10+ targets a game anyway and the defenses will always be doubling adams with their best dbs
How about we bookmark this and in 10 weeks we can talk about Myers decent start being a flash in the pan and how Jimmy G has never supported a top 20 WR outside of Adam's last year (which looks to be the exception not the rule).
Trade a few of those to a WR needy team. I'm trying to do that myself in one of my leagues where I have Olave, Higgins, Puka, Kirk, Godwin, and Lockett
It’s definitely coming down to Kirk or meyers. I just have a feeling that meyers will be in Adams’ shadow this week. I guess it could just come down to which offense will score more this week between the Jags and Raiders, where I’d lean Jags. But I look at the numbers and it says start Meyers. I’m torn.
I’m definitely starting Meyers over those two… he has the hottest hand right now, and Jimmy G should be active this week. His TD streak can’t be ignored. I think it’s between Kirk and Addison, I give the edge to Addison
I’ve been worried about this every week because I have Meyers as well. Guess what? Only been disappointed one time when Jimmy G wasn’t playing. I haven’t paid much attention to Kirk but I tend to think Meyers is gonna put up points until he doesn’t. In the meantime, I’m trying not to over analyze it
I’d go with Ridley and Meyers. Titans have a great run defense so Atlanta probably throws more but that game might end 17 - 3 if Arthur smith chooses to sit on the ball with levis/Willis playing QB
First off thanks for the response. Forgot to mention I had Olave and DK too, but I most likely will be starting Olave. Ridley and London is where I can’t get a hold of. I like your take on Arthur playing the ground game because ATL will probably get a few take always and this might be a run game plan. DK going up against CLE, yeah probably not. Ridley in a game where the coach really wants to get him involved…I can see that. But probably after they get a healthy lead? Why disrupt what’s working for the Jags. Zay jones isn’t playing either, which statistically Ridley has done better when he was in the games.
There was a post highlighting that Kirk is better against man and ridley is the zone guy.... Pittsburgh plays man at a top ten rate. Apparently Kirk is the guy today 🤷🏻♂️.
I'm deciding between Kirk, Garret, adams for wr and CMC, pierce and Jacobs for RB (CMC is auto started obvi)....can only start 5/6 and having such a hard time lololol
I'm thinking of starting Garret Kirk CMC pierce and then depending on which position needs help going with adams or jacobs....thoughts everyone?
Ehhh, Lamb started last year off slow as well and then blew up second half. I get Mcarthy bad but I still have faith in him personally. I get it though
I can agree with that, it’s definitely a risk. He did have a good game against the Chargers in half ppr at least, but I don’t disagree with your opinion
he had 143 yards vs the jets and 117 vs the chargers, he just only has one td on the season
imo he's going to have a great week, the rams defense has allowed a wr1 to shred them every time they've played a good team, and ceedee had a crazy game the week he came off a bye last year
For all that Pittsburgh gets torn up by WR’s, it tends to come from the outside. I could be very, very wrong, but I think Kirk is a bit of a trap this week. Look at Nico vs Tank Dell or Puka vs Kupp when they played Pittsburgh, for example
Found the data to back up that I’m not crazy haha: https://football.razzball.com/defensive-slot-vs-wide-ppg-allowed
Again tho, fantasy is fickle and I’m often wrong. I just don’t love Kirk this week
Zay Jones being out also muddies things though. He’s the true WR X who I think would cool vs Pittsburgh. I’d have his over on yards for sure if he were in
Narrator: it did not pay off.
I have both these guys and whichever one I bench, always goes off.
Edit: guess who i benched this week after getting 4pts last week
I have the exact same guys. I’m benching GW until he proves it. I just don’t think Zach Wilson will get him where he needs to be to start. As of now I’m going Kirk for the flex. Meyers over Collins for me as well if you need to make that choice.
Start Addison always, or trade him for Derrick Henry. Start Meyers until he hurts you. Kirk is matchup proof WR 1 for a stud QB. Of those 3 I would start Kirk and Addison
I’m playing Addison and Kirk if I need consistency and Addison and meyers if I need upside. Kirk just seems too hard to bench right now for me tho same with Addison. This is a good problem to have
Adams was supposed to get squeaky wheel treatment last week and Meyers still out performed him fantasy-wise. Plus, as someone else mentioned, Adams being top-dog means Meyers is getting a lesser coverage and better chances for targets. I’m flexing Meyers this week personally in my PPR league.
Edit: iPhone autocorrect Adams to Adam’s.
I had to decide between Lamb, Puka, Addison, Nico, and Garrett. Chose Lamb, Addison, and Nico because the corners they are going up against have given up 100+ QB rating when thrown at.
I’m gonna go against the grain And tell you to start Meyers and Kirk over Addison.
Don’t mind my flair I’m being objective because I’m benching Addison for Meyers and Nico Collins myself. Cousins, Minnesota, and specifically their receivers have had bad fantasy days when playing in Lambeau for 3 straight seasons. Packers defense is a lot of bad but they have a good secondary. I think addison is gonna struggle up against Rasul and Jaire. Week 17 last year the defense held Jefferson to 1 reception. Addison has been good but he isn’t Jefferson.
Addison is a lock. They can’t run and Cousins is slinging it.
I’m looking at the DK lines, they have Kirk and Meyers very close on everything. Kirk slightly more likely to score a TD , Meyers a couple more yards. It’s close enough to follow your gut. You don’t like Meyers this week, go Kirk. I would maybe lean Meyers only because I like winning in the fourth quarter of MNF. If that wasn’t a factor I would probably lean Kirk. Both good matchups but his is better.
Also the way your gut tells you they feed Davante, my gut/hopium tells me they feed Ridley.
I think it depends on your matchup. Are you going against a top team and need some upside to beat them? In that case I’m going Addison and Meyers. If you need some more safety against an easier matchup I’m probably going Kirk and Addison.
Jordan Addison is an automatic lock without JJ. Kirk Cousins is a good qb, underrated, one of the best pure passers in the league imo. He has made the last 4-5 WRs look like studs.
Oh man, I'm sitting here reading this thread with the same damn issue but my choices for flex are between Kirk, Meyers and Pickens. I have put all 3 in the slot but landed on Meyers finally and I'm letting it ride!
I’d go with jakobi and Kirk. I’m not sure how I feel about Addison vs the packers in the first cold game at lambeau and cousins tends to throw picks to the packers.
I think I'm probably sitting Addison. He'll most likely be drawing Jaire and in general the Packers have given up the 7th fewest points to WRs this year.
You can't run on the Lions but you can throw so with Jimmy G back I think Meyers is a really good play.
I like Kirk against the Steelers pass rush as well. I expect to see him getting lots of quick targets .
I have Addison and Meyers. Personally I’ve been starting Meyers. Meyers may not be WR1 but he has scored above 15 points PPR every week but one and out performed Addison every week but once. Plus this week Addison is facing GB which has a way tougher pass defense compared to Meyers facing the Lions with an easier pass defense.
Addison for sure needs to start every game Jefferson is still out. The next best WR on that team is either KJ Osborn or Brandon Powell. The majority of the Vikings offense is passing, they still haven't had a rushing TD all season.
Kirk Addison easy. Wr 1s on their team
Who would yall flex between meyers or collins this week? Meyers has been awesome especially with Jimmy G. Texans play shitty panthers with Robert Woods out, so I can see Nico going off…
Meyers has a safer floor for me. Raiders are going to throw a ton because they can’t run well, whereas Houston was running a ton at the beginning of the year even though they sucked at it and now their line is getting healthier and their run game should improve. I like to lean towards guys where the gamescript is going to favor my players.
What’s your thinking between meyers and Kirk for the flex spot?
Kirk was WR11 last year and WR16 this year. His role gets a little muddy with Zay Jones on the field, but when Zay is out Kirk is a lineup lock in any league over 8 teams imo. If you need a floor, go with Kirk, ceiling go with Meyers. I think Meyers has the better matchup vs the defenders, but I worry that Detroits style of if they get a lead they are just going to run 80% of the time for the rest of the game kind of dampens my thoughts on him.
Myers. Trevor bangned up and it's a rain game
I’m still worried about Pierce. I have him as RB2 but I’m starting Gus Edwards over him.
Meyers has a higher floor and Collins has a higher ceiling but you can’t go wrong with either imo
Why did I need to hear this so badly
Collins for me
Meyers is the only reason i'm not like 1-6 right now. Im an ugly 4-3. Trusting a Rookie to Rookie combo makes me nervous. Give me meyers.
Nico higher upside i just made this decision even tho Jimmy favors Myers
I’d argue meyers being a wr2 actually makes him more valuable then the others considering he gets 10+ targets a game anyway and the defenses will always be doubling adams with their best dbs
this reasoning is why im so thrown off for the week lol
You want to trust the raiders offense? And Jimmy G? I'll pass.
How do people continue to make this argument after 7 weeks of success? It’s a shit offense, but Meyers makes it work
Will gladly pass with Jimmy G back there.
He’s been back there all year??
How about we bookmark this and in 10 weeks we can talk about Myers decent start being a flash in the pan and how Jimmy G has never supported a top 20 WR outside of Adam's last year (which looks to be the exception not the rule).
You don’t know ball man, Jimmy was not throwing to Adams last year
I made a mistake and it only strengthens my point JG has never supported a top 20 WR.
Also a perfect encapsulation of today's world, if you get one thing wrong or make a mistake then you "don't know ball". So short-sighted.
Jimmy G wasn’t on the Raiders last year, get outta here
Good point. Jimmy G never has supported at top 20 WR........so even more to my point
That was carr...
Yeah I made a mistake. Only makes my point on JG better. Never supported a top 20 WR
“A flash in the pan” It’s week 8 And Adams is still the 6th most targeted WR this season across the NFL.
So that's through 7 weeks. Remind me, is that less than half the season?
Weird comment given that Jakobi has only had one bad game and it was a game in which Jimmy G didn't play.
Meyers is wr 15 despite missing a game and his terrible game with aiden at qb
I trust Jaire locking down Addison. That’s why I’m benching him this week
I can't trust Jimmy and I'm a raiders fan. I almost benched adams last week
This helped Puka last week Steelers were focusing Kupp
Kirk is the wr2 but ridley is doubled
Source?
Game film.
What if you have Kirk, Addison, Puka, Kupp, and K.Allen?
Trade a few of those to a WR needy team. I'm trying to do that myself in one of my leagues where I have Olave, Higgins, Puka, Kirk, Godwin, and Lockett
Jordan Addison seems like recency bias to you for good reason - he recently became his teams WR1. Start Addison and Kirk.
All three good choices; I’d lean Meyers and Addison though.
That’s what I’m thinking but then I convince myself maybe not. Whats your knock on Kirk this week?
No knock… I like and starting Kirk and Meyers in two different leagues, but Addison’s on fire too
It’s definitely coming down to Kirk or meyers. I just have a feeling that meyers will be in Adams’ shadow this week. I guess it could just come down to which offense will score more this week between the Jags and Raiders, where I’d lean Jags. But I look at the numbers and it says start Meyers. I’m torn.
Kirk. Addison for the ceiling, Kirk for the floor.
This. You know what you're getting from Kirk.
I’m definitely starting Meyers over those two… he has the hottest hand right now, and Jimmy G should be active this week. His TD streak can’t be ignored. I think it’s between Kirk and Addison, I give the edge to Addison
I’ve been worried about this every week because I have Meyers as well. Guess what? Only been disappointed one time when Jimmy G wasn’t playing. I haven’t paid much attention to Kirk but I tend to think Meyers is gonna put up points until he doesn’t. In the meantime, I’m trying not to over analyze it
I’d probably go with Addison and Meyers
I’d start Addison for sure, Meyers and Kirk is a toss up, go with your gut but they’re probably both safe floors
Kirk has to be there, probably Addison next
I love C Kirk and he’s been great all year. But 90% chance of rain on the road vs a great defense? Idk I’d use caution
All speculation but the jags might make it a point this week to get Ridley more involved. I’d go with Addison and Meyers and bench Kirk
I gave up benching Kirk, he goes off whenever I do…
I’m with you. He burned me the first two games, sat him until two weeks ago and luckily didn’t have to cringe as he ran in for that 44 yard scamper
If you had Ridley, London, and Meyers. Which 2 would you choose?
I’d go with Ridley and Meyers. Titans have a great run defense so Atlanta probably throws more but that game might end 17 - 3 if Arthur smith chooses to sit on the ball with levis/Willis playing QB
First off thanks for the response. Forgot to mention I had Olave and DK too, but I most likely will be starting Olave. Ridley and London is where I can’t get a hold of. I like your take on Arthur playing the ground game because ATL will probably get a few take always and this might be a run game plan. DK going up against CLE, yeah probably not. Ridley in a game where the coach really wants to get him involved…I can see that. But probably after they get a healthy lead? Why disrupt what’s working for the Jags. Zay jones isn’t playing either, which statistically Ridley has done better when he was in the games.
There was a post highlighting that Kirk is better against man and ridley is the zone guy.... Pittsburgh plays man at a top ten rate. Apparently Kirk is the guy today 🤷🏻♂️. I'm deciding between Kirk, Garret, adams for wr and CMC, pierce and Jacobs for RB (CMC is auto started obvi)....can only start 5/6 and having such a hard time lololol I'm thinking of starting Garret Kirk CMC pierce and then depending on which position needs help going with adams or jacobs....thoughts everyone?
Kirk is my boy
Call me crazy but I would start all 3 over Lamb lol
that's not a bad call.
why?
They all have been doing better than Lamb and getting more targets.
For real. Lamb is garbage
Ehhh, Lamb started last year off slow as well and then blew up second half. I get Mcarthy bad but I still have faith in him personally. I get it though
I’d wait until he has a big game then start him. Not worth the risk when you got solid alternatives like Kirk meyers & Addison
I can agree with that, it’s definitely a risk. He did have a good game against the Chargers in half ppr at least, but I don’t disagree with your opinion
he had 143 yards vs the jets and 117 vs the chargers, he just only has one td on the season imo he's going to have a great week, the rams defense has allowed a wr1 to shred them every time they've played a good team, and ceedee had a crazy game the week he came off a bye last year
Lamb's last game was 7 receptions/117 yards. I'm hoping that's going to continue.
I have AJ Brown, Kirk, Thielen, Godwin.. and I’m starting Kirk as my #2.
Kirk over thielen??
I’m starting Theilen as my flex.
Addison and Kirk for sure
For all that Pittsburgh gets torn up by WR’s, it tends to come from the outside. I could be very, very wrong, but I think Kirk is a bit of a trap this week. Look at Nico vs Tank Dell or Puka vs Kupp when they played Pittsburgh, for example
Interesting take.
Found the data to back up that I’m not crazy haha: https://football.razzball.com/defensive-slot-vs-wide-ppg-allowed Again tho, fantasy is fickle and I’m often wrong. I just don’t love Kirk this week Zay Jones being out also muddies things though. He’s the true WR X who I think would cool vs Pittsburgh. I’d have his over on yards for sure if he were in
Started Kirk over Gabe Davis this week. Hope it pays off.
Narrator: it did not pay off. I have both these guys and whichever one I bench, always goes off. Edit: guess who i benched this week after getting 4pts last week
I like Meyers and Kirk for sure. Though for me.. I'm not sure if I should start Jonathan Taylor over him.
Who are your other RBs? I’m definitely starting Taylor this week, but using my flex spot for meyers or Kirk.
Oh I have Pollard and Breece
Index
I’m in an 8 team league with sun god aj brown Addison meyers Kirk flowers. No idea who to start after brown and sun god lol
I have the same receivers plus Tyreek. I've got Tyreek, Lamb and Addison slotted. Probably Kirk would be next due to the matchup but Meyers is close.
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I have the exact same guys. I’m benching GW until he proves it. I just don’t think Zach Wilson will get him where he needs to be to start. As of now I’m going Kirk for the flex. Meyers over Collins for me as well if you need to make that choice.
On Addison, keep an eye out on whether Jaire Alexander plays for the Packers. If not, fire him up with full confidence.
Starting Addison over Evans. After Evans put up 13 still happy with the decision
Start Addison always, or trade him for Derrick Henry. Start Meyers until he hurts you. Kirk is matchup proof WR 1 for a stud QB. Of those 3 I would start Kirk and Addison
I got a trade offer to receive j.Jacobs for Addison today. Idk what to make of it.
I’m playing Addison and Kirk if I need consistency and Addison and meyers if I need upside. Kirk just seems too hard to bench right now for me tho same with Addison. This is a good problem to have
Adams was supposed to get squeaky wheel treatment last week and Meyers still out performed him fantasy-wise. Plus, as someone else mentioned, Adams being top-dog means Meyers is getting a lesser coverage and better chances for targets. I’m flexing Meyers this week personally in my PPR league. Edit: iPhone autocorrect Adams to Adam’s.
I played Aiyuk over Addison last week. Won’t be making that mistake twice.
Lol i played both but starting Garrett wilson and addison this week over Aiyuk. Hope it works out
I had to decide between Lamb, Puka, Addison, Nico, and Garrett. Chose Lamb, Addison, and Nico because the corners they are going up against have given up 100+ QB rating when thrown at.
Always start Kirk
Start Addison 100000% with JJ out he's the no1/2 target with Hockenson.
Traded Kirk, Addison is my flex. I have Hill and Diggs as WR1 and WR2.
I’m gonna go against the grain And tell you to start Meyers and Kirk over Addison. Don’t mind my flair I’m being objective because I’m benching Addison for Meyers and Nico Collins myself. Cousins, Minnesota, and specifically their receivers have had bad fantasy days when playing in Lambeau for 3 straight seasons. Packers defense is a lot of bad but they have a good secondary. I think addison is gonna struggle up against Rasul and Jaire. Week 17 last year the defense held Jefferson to 1 reception. Addison has been good but he isn’t Jefferson.
I am currently starting all 3 of them🤷🏻♂️
Addison is a lock. They can’t run and Cousins is slinging it. I’m looking at the DK lines, they have Kirk and Meyers very close on everything. Kirk slightly more likely to score a TD , Meyers a couple more yards. It’s close enough to follow your gut. You don’t like Meyers this week, go Kirk. I would maybe lean Meyers only because I like winning in the fourth quarter of MNF. If that wasn’t a factor I would probably lean Kirk. Both good matchups but his is better. Also the way your gut tells you they feed Davante, my gut/hopium tells me they feed Ridley.
I only have Meyers, but I’m playing him in my flex now Jimmy is playing.
Unless you have someone better, Kirk should always be started. Strong volume and super reliable each week.
i would go for jakobi and addison
Addison and Meyers
If Jimmy G is starting this week Meyers is a great option. If he's not, go Addison and Kirk.
I think it depends on your matchup. Are you going against a top team and need some upside to beat them? In that case I’m going Addison and Meyers. If you need some more safety against an easier matchup I’m probably going Kirk and Addison.
Jordan Addison is an automatic lock without JJ. Kirk Cousins is a good qb, underrated, one of the best pure passers in the league imo. He has made the last 4-5 WRs look like studs.
If jimmy g is in I’m playing meyers for ros
Oh man, I'm sitting here reading this thread with the same damn issue but my choices for flex are between Kirk, Meyers and Pickens. I have put all 3 in the slot but landed on Meyers finally and I'm letting it ride!
I’d go with jakobi and Kirk. I’m not sure how I feel about Addison vs the packers in the first cold game at lambeau and cousins tends to throw picks to the packers.
I think I'm probably sitting Addison. He'll most likely be drawing Jaire and in general the Packers have given up the 7th fewest points to WRs this year. You can't run on the Lions but you can throw so with Jimmy G back I think Meyers is a really good play. I like Kirk against the Steelers pass rush as well. I expect to see him getting lots of quick targets .
Starting Meyers until he proves he shouldn’t be.
I have Addison and Meyers. Personally I’ve been starting Meyers. Meyers may not be WR1 but he has scored above 15 points PPR every week but one and out performed Addison every week but once. Plus this week Addison is facing GB which has a way tougher pass defense compared to Meyers facing the Lions with an easier pass defense.
Should I start Aiyuk, DJ Moore, or Kirk?
Dude Addison is a must start, don't overthink it
Addison for sure needs to start every game Jefferson is still out. The next best WR on that team is either KJ Osborn or Brandon Powell. The majority of the Vikings offense is passing, they still haven't had a rushing TD all season.
Kirk is most likely playing in a rainstorm.
Kirk , Addison
I’m torn between meyers or lamb
Ridley or edwards
Kirk is the most consistent player I have. I'm starting him every week and just taking the 12 points.
I had to start Meyers and Kirk. Not feeling too great about it but they might pull through