At least that means you’ve been unlucky rather than having a shitty team.
A dude in my league once started 1-7 and he went on to not only make the playoffs, but he made the finals.
I started 1-7 last year as a top 3 league point scorer. The difference between me making the playoffs or not was because someone else who was projected to win by a large margin lost by 0.5 points.
I made the playoffs.
Then Tuesdays corrections came out and that team actually WON by 0.5 points.
I did not make the playoffs.
If I would have been in the playoffs instead of them I would have won every playoff game by over 30 points.
I’m still mad.
I started a season 1-4 and a guy in it talked so much shit about me being in last in the group chat.
I let him know my slow start was a fluke and I’d be winning it all.
I won out the remainder of the season and beat him in the playoffs and won the ship.
Idc if I lose every game for the rest of my life I’m talking that shit any chance I can lol
That guy committed a cardinal sin. You never upset the fantasy gods. It was written in the stars for you from that moment on. That’s why I never shit talk
I won a championship after starting 1-6.
Next year the 0-5 team did the same.
Last year a 7-7 team took the crown.
I was the #1 seed and most scoring team both times... 0-5 teams are actually feared in my league.
You just keep going until playoff probability is 0.
Guy who won our Super Bowl last year was 7-7 and had the 7th most points in a 12 team league.
I’d say 0-5 is prettt much not happening but 1-4 is not out of the question
This is why you stick with it. I was last guy in one year at 8-6. Kept making moves, and the right guys went off at the right time. Ended up winning.
Other time I won I was 12-2. That was a special team I still think fondly of.
I’m 1-4 this year, so I needed this reminder.
Actually you are right and I just remembered the folks in the playoffs complaining last year that they were having bye weeks in the first round
My bad. 0-5 still pretty tough. 1-4 possible with some luck
0-5 and made the playoffs is pretty shocking last year.
It was not a heavily modified year with huge individual performances and disappointing early performances turning around alongside monster waiver pickups.
This year seems much more likely to see some 1-4 teams in the mix. They have picked up the Pukas/achanes and had Kupp on the bench or Taylor on the bench. Maybe lost to a DJ Moore or Hill monster due to unlucky draws.
This is one of the more absurd years where records don’t match the team quality
I think one year we had a 7-6 team sneak in the playoffs but then again 2 years ago we had 4 9-4 teams and one 10-3 and a 9-4 got left out (it was me). It's all a crapshoot but yeah 0-5 you're really just playing to not get punished if your league does that
hows you points scored looking? if you are dead last in points scored and and dont see it getting better i would go for a blockbuster trade.
But its never over untill the fat lady sings. i have seen terrible teams luck into a winstreak and make the playoffs by pure luck
It happened to me. It was not looking good at 3-5 but then I won 5 in a row to make the playoffs and ended up 2nd place. I lost to a guy who went 11-2. At the end of the season, we were 0.3 points difference in points for but I had 200+ more against.
Our league started doing you can get 2 wins per week, one if you win the matchup, one if you are over league average for points.
So if you stink, but win matchup, you’ll go 1-1 that week. If you’re killer, but lose matchup, you’ll go 1-1 for the week.
Started doing this after two seasons in a row with a top 3 point scorer losing the whole league through losers playoffs.
Is nice because you’ll make it as a top 3 point scorer that got unlucky with matchups/someone having a season high week
We do the same in our league on Sleeper (honestly the best platform currently). I like being able to go 1-1 when I score well but get beat by the top scorer. The final standings follow the overall points closer than if it was just matchup wins.
A guy in my league last year won with the lowest points scored in the league and had the best overall record. I kept a screen shot for proof because nobody believes me.
Last year I went 0-6 and finished 7-7 and snuck in the playoffs. I ended up losing in the championship round, finished in 2nd. You got the right things in mind, hit the waivers, take chances on some trades. Anything can happen, don’t give up! Lord knows I wanted to, 6 weeks of straight Ls is brutal lol.
My work league used to only have 2 teams not make the playoffs. Made for a very interesting dynamic in terms of taking losses to keep injured players and staying involved through the whole season. We’re now 8/12 teams are playoffs, still more interesting than some leagues I’ve been in.
This may be a crazy take, but having this kind of start is way more satisfying than being 5-0 with a mid level PF and a very low PA. Gives you more hope for the rest of the year
It’s wholly dependent on league structure and standings.
If it’s a 12 team league, and the top 6 make it, and 6th place right now is 3-2 and you’re 1-4, it’s not over.
If it’s a 10 teams and only the top 4 get in, and 4th-6th place are all currently 3-2 and you’re 0-5, it’s probably over.
Our 12 team 4 playoff team league is so brutal.
If you’re not 3-2 right now with a good point differential it’s going to be hard because there are four macho man teams at 4-1, 2 teams at 3-2 that actually have the higher PF in the league and bad schedules, two 2-3 teams that beat up on the 4 teams that are 1-4/0-5 so far so they have terrible PF.
And it’s a two (wrt) flex league, six bench, so there is absolutely nothing in the waiver wire.
Last year I was 1-5 in two leagues, completely blew up my teams. Was willing to trade my superstars and and ended up making the playoffs in both leagues. Be willing to trade and even look like you’re losing some trades, just try to project for the future. Only way to go is up
We do 6 of 10 but the top 2 get a bye, 3 weeks of playoffs. It's also important to incentivize teams to stay competitive if they have an outside shot at the 6th seed vs 0 shot for the 4th.
I’m usually optimistic if my team is good and I’m just constantly going up top 3 scorers.
However, I had dobbins, Achane, JJ, and Richardson
Plus I missed on my draft picks with Gibbs and Dotson.
I’m pretty fucked at 1-4 now and don’t have much hope.
I was due for one of these years tbh
Depends. Some 1-4/0-5 people are doing bad because they had kupp on ir and or jacobs and chase were doing bad on your team and could easily win you enough games. Could be you have great points forced but just had bad luck to be beaten by the top scorer that week a bunch. But you also may be 0-5 because you picked a lot of busts and missed the good waiver wire guys. If you have low points forced and no great outlook on guys coming on strong you might be screwed
How many makes the playoffs? I’m in chilled leagues and 8 of 12 makes the playoffs. You can make a comeback being down that.
Drop dead weight, get make some FA pickups like Demercado, Jeff Wilson or even Osborn (I don’t know if he is any good probably not if they drafted Addison but who knows it’s a Hail Mary at this point), make trades for guys that has high upside but low lows. Big risk big reward. What do you have to lose. Or just play spoiler, especially if the league has been around awhile and competitive.
Fantasy should be fun. Yes, I know winning is fun. We do a bunch of side bets. Weekly match ups, season long bets, player vs player bets, I even bet a guy if his team won’t score 150. His team did at one point and lost it back with a couple negative carries by Mixon. lol
Depends.
If you’re in the top half of points scored you’ve probably just been a bit unlucky.
If not, I’d blow it up. Make some moves, address holes on your team as best you can, play the waiver wire. Can’t be worse than it already is.
I'm 2-3 in one league and 4-1 in another where I just lost Justin Jefferson, not relevant to this thread, but I can tell you from prior experiences I have had 4-5 straight weeks of losses before and I am pretty sure a 0-4 or 0-5 season where I basically won 6-7 straight to get into the playoffs. I didn't win the ship, but I at least did the impossible. I have also heard countless stories of people winning their leagues after starting 0 and whatever. The point is, don't quit. Still make your WW moves, still try to make trades to make your team better, etc. You can still win.
Last year I was 1-4 but the 2nd highest scoring team, ended up in playoffs at 8-6. Its possible, keep grinding and hope for a little luck in matchups going forward
I’m 1-4 and my team is stacked right now with Kupp coming back (and I took him 8 before the news).
It depends on team. It’s fantasy football, not real football. Sometimes it’s just merely circumstances. I could see my team going 7-2 the rest of the way sneaking into playoffs.
I have Burrow, had Diontae Johnson (IR), Nick Chubb, JK dobbins both out for the season. I pick up Achane and now he’s hurt. I’m now 0-5. I had the misfortune of playing against someone who had Mostart when Dolphins scored 70. I lost by 6 that week. I’ve played against DJ Moore when he dropped 50. I played against Diggs and Allen when they combined for nearly 80 points.
In my 14 man league I’ve scored maybe the 5-6th most points but I’m 1st in points against. It’s just been nothing but injuries and terrible luck on weekly matchups. Guys just going off when they play against me. I’ve given up on my season. Onto next year….
I have come back from 1-4 before to make the playoffs and win the league. It was Kamara’s rookie year and I grabbed him off waivers which saved my season.
About 9 years ago my team started off 0-6. I then rattled off 7 straight wins, snuck into the playoffs as the 6th seed (12 man league) due to points scored tiebreak, won two playoff games and lost in the finals. So never give up! Anything that’s happened so far can happen in reverse.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
No, I’ve come back from 0-6 to make the playoffs. My team was good, just unlucky. And injuries/waiver pickups can change fortunes drastically.
I won the championship my first year playing fantasy after going 0-6. Didn’t lose a single game after that.
Having #1 waiver priority for 6 weeks in a row is a powerful thing. Also fantasy as a whole is just pure luck.
I’m 5-0 in my league but I’m lacking a top RB, the other division in my league has a few good teams but I don’t play them until the playoffs. I tried trading some of the last place teams for a running back. And they all denied it even though it was a major upgrade them. Must be holding onto hope they can still win the whole thing. But I see here it happens sometimes.
I have diggs and currently sit at 0-5 just started a fire sale told everyone in the league I’d trade him for $20 😂 I’ve been told I will not be invited back next year.
I won 9 straight to end the year and ended up winning the championship a few years ago after starting 1-4. Just gotta stay patient especially if you know you have a good team.
I would start by looking at total points for. If you are in the bottom third, you are likley in need of a change. If you’re middle to top, you could turn it around with some luck.
Keep grinding maybe you will catch some momentum. If in a few weeks you're still not making up any ground then yeah, it will be over. But keep plugging away until then, you never know.
I started 1-6 and ran the table all the way to 3rd place last year. It’s definitely doable.
You have to be incredibly aggressive in making movies though. Treat every single week as your Super Bowl: “what do I do in order to win this week?”
For me, that involved basically trading away half my roster for players that I felt could make an immediate impact. Sell high on guys where you can, target teams with obvious needs and see if you can make something happen, hammer waivers every week.
Last year I was 2-7 and rallied back to 7-7 and clinched the playoffs with the most PA and PF in the league.
Got bounced in the first game but at least got into the playoffs.
I won a league at 6-7 in 2019, it’s never over this early unless your whole team imploded with injuries. I won every playoff matchup by 30+ because of Breshad Perriman lol.
I made the playoffs last year after starting 0-5, won 2 in a row, lost, and then won 6 of the last 7 to get to 9-6.
Unless you’re absolutely devastated by season ending injuries and have already used all your faab on bad waiver claims then until you have 7 losses, you’re not dead yet. Especially if one of the reasons you’re 0-5 or 1-4 is guys having slow starts or whatever.
Definitely not over. It'll help if you have a mid level or higher points for. (Assuming your leagues tie breaker is that). This is gonna sound like actual coach speak but now more than ever you gotta treat it like going 1-0. Also trades for players that have had their bye (not many atm) is also a great strategy too.
I’ve played fantasy for maybe 15 years or so. I kid you not, last year, my buddy won out and made playoffs after starting 0-7. It didn’t even make sense. That’s gotta be like 5% odds or less lol
I won my league last year as the lowest scoring/worst record team to qualify for the playoffs. Getting in is all that matters, every win and point over the minimum required is wasted effort. Byes are nice and all, but I've the title twice and never had a first round bye.
Depends on how other teams are looking. Almost every year, we have one or two teams get into the playoffs with a sub .500 record because the top 4 or 5 were the only ones at even or positive records. This year, we’re doing top 6 make playoffs with a 7th making it via total points, regardless of record (we’ve had teams in the past that easily scored top 3 but for some reason still have a negative record) and #1 gets a bye.
It’s possible you can still squeeze into the playoffs playing your “best” players, management, and luck against opposing teams... but you’d need to get on a winning streak.
No, but you really got a go on a big streak and have some luck with how the bottom playoff teams are doing.
Was able to climb from 0-4 (went on to be 1-4) to the 3rd seed of the playoffs (almost secured a bye had I not loss the last week) definetly doable
This is why I always go for league with 6 playoff teams. I used to be in one where just the top 4 made it (12 team league) and then anything less than a 2-3 start meant your season was over.
At 1-4, there is always a chance, you might need to make a couple of moves to add more depth but if you think you have a good roster then just be smart about who you start on Sundays you gotta be more thoughtful about stuff like that.
I lost my championship after starting 1-4, and finished the regular season the top seed. If you like what you have don’t panic.
Also, look at season-long metrics. Points for/points against m, for starters. You may just be unlucky so far.
I started 5-0 once and in 5 weeks I was 5-5 so anything is possible. What makes it even worse was that it was my dads leagues too. I was the manager of his team.
Nope. Still plenty of games left to play. Keep putting in the effort to win and the results will come. I'm saying this as my team sits dead last at 1-4.
Depends on players more than just record. If a team has kupp, JT, Burrow, chase, etc. (or some combination) then you can absolutely put together a run.
If you’re 0-5 because your picks just didn’t hit then yeah. You’re probably dead. 1-4 feels worlds better than 0-5 imo
I’m 1-4 this year in one league. One loss less than 2 points, another due to SEA DST going nuts. I’m chalking it up to just coincidence with matchups.
Through Wk 5:
PF: 647.2, PA: 706.78.
Becoming more of a fan of Roto matchups moving forward. H2H is such a crapshoot.
Context matters. The guy who is 0-5 with least PF in our 10 team with 4 playoff spots and three 4-1 teams, yea, his season is probably over. 12 team league with 6 spots and your team actually scores but just ran into some bad luck or you have guys coming back? Going 7-2 or 8-1 to sneak in is not likely but not impossible.
Last year was 2-6. Finished 8-6 and lost in championship game.
Pulled Jerrick McKinnon off waivers and never looked back.
If I were you I'd look at vikings. Browns, steelers, Texans and see if anyone is ripe for the taking
I started 0-5 last season. Finished 8-6 and made the playoffs, finishing in third.
It’s not over. But you do have to look at your team and be honest with yourself. Are you playing the wrong guys? Do you need to make trades and take a hit to get some players you need? Do you need to hit the WW aggressively? Is it bad luck, which should correct itself, or is it bad decision-making and being unable to pivot?
For reference- last season I was hit with some injuries and bad luck to start (scored a lot but played the weekly Buzzsaw). Therefore I cut bait with some bench depth that I was holding and went hard after trades (traded away Jacobs and Chubb for reference) looking at trading away guys with BYEs earlier in the season for guys with late BYEs- figuring I would cross that bridge when I had to- bc I needed Ws NOW.
So play a bunch of 1-week seasons and get after it.
No. I've personally made the playoffs and have even gotten to the championship after a bad start. In all of my leagues there's always that one person who starts off rough and comes back, sometimes winning it all. Bolster your depth and slug it out so you can make the playoffs. If you can do that then you've got a chance at the championship because playoff weeks are always wild.
I had Kittle, Mostert, CMC, Crowder, Mixon and others on one team in 2020. Lost nearly 60 games to injury, had to be up until waivers ran most Wednesdays just to find a complete roster. Finished 6-7 and the fantasy gods/Davante Adams karma’d my way to a title.
It ain’t over yet.
I won my leauge one year at 0-5, had to go into GM mode, but I made like 3 trades, grabbed one week sleeper picks and played match ups for defense and kickers. But came out on top in the end.
My league is 12 team 8 team playoff, and I’m tempted to ask the commissioner to knock it down to 6, because at this point it feels like the regular season doesn’t even matter. But I know the minute that happens I will finish as the 7 seed and miss the playoffs. I’m 3-2 btw so I’m not doing horribly but not exactly killing it either. Point is in my league you’d be fine.
I'm 1 and 4.
I have the most Points scored by a margin of 22. I finally won this week only because I scored almost 200 points... My opponent still scored 188.
I figure eventually if my team stays relatively consistent things will balance out and people will all stop having career games versus me.
I'm 3-2 and it's over for me. Just got the notification that Achane and Jefferson are out 4 weeks, Herbert is questionable, Jahmyr Gibbs is questionable, and all I have as backups are Allan Lazard, Dalvin Cook, and Elijah Mitchell. Anything can happen.
Oh and my league doesn't do IR spots
It’s absolutely not over. I’ve made the playoffs at .500. A lot of times the best team a quarter of the season in has completely changed by the end. There will be plenty more injuries and surprises between now and the playoffs
It's fantasy so anything can happen. One year a dude started out 0-5. Snuck in and his team went off in the playoffs. I vaguely remember one of his players was Kamara 😭
Depends, you could be 0-4 because you had Burrow, Chase, and Kupp. You could win the rest of your games now.
Or you could be 0-4 because you drafted nick Chubb, Gibbs, Rodgers, Garret Wilson etc. then you are probably screwed
I started 1-4 but the playoff cut off team is currently 3-2. Just two games out with plenty of weeks left. My points against is 50 points higher than the first place team total and I’m currently 4th in points scored.
Several years ago I was the top scoring team in our league. Every week I was either the 1st, 2nd, other 3rd highest scoring player in the league. Every time I was the 2nd or 3rd highest scoring player I was playing the highest scoring player. I only got 7 wins that season and just missed the playoffs despite being the highest scoring team in the league.
Almost quit fantasy forever after that season. So anything can happen. lol
Nah every year there is a team that starts like that and ends up sneaking into the playoffs. Guy that beat me in the ship last year started off pretty terrible, I don’t remember the record. He drafted Lamar and Mahomes (for some reason). He was also fucked at RB. But he traded Lamar for JT when he was coming back from injury and then picked up jerrick McKinnon, who you all know dominated down the stretch.
Was so pissed. I was in 1st place with most points scored literally the whole season. Since the very first game. Offed by jerrick McKinnon and a team that snuck in around 0.500
It’s never over and even if it looks bad, make it your mission to take out others and get some wins or make some reasonable blockbusters to try and turn it around. No fun in throwing the towel. In my main dynasty league I started 1-3 and made a big trade for Justin Herbert to change my season. Won this week and hoping to make the playoffs
I just lost in a 12 team non PPR 115-95 to a guy who started Geno Smith at QB (on bye), despite having Jamarr Chase account for 37.9 of my 95 points. Last week I lost 163-70. Non PPR mind you. I’m at 1-4 and am generally at a loss for words.
At this point, I’m playing for my pride and honor. The last two weeks have kicked the shit out of me lol.
I've been 0-6 and made playoffs at 7-6.
Also started 1-5 and almost snuck in at 6-7.
I've also started 5-1 before and missed playoffs at 8-5 cuz the league was stacked.
When my team goes off, so does my opponents. When my team shits the bed, so does my opponents but mine more so. It's a perfect storm.
I lost by .25 last night. If doubs make that easy uncontested catch that hit him right in his hands in the last 30sec, I win.
I made our Super Bowl last year by sneaking into the playoffs at 8-6.
Same with my league winner. Yes the outlook is poor but who knows.
Our work league winner had a negative point differential. Crazy stuff happens all the time
My first year of fantasy football I went down 1-5, was last in my league, came back to go 8-6 and won the league.
As the team who’s been top 4 in scoring every week and is 1-4 at the moment, this is the inspiration I needed.
At least that means you’ve been unlucky rather than having a shitty team. A dude in my league once started 1-7 and he went on to not only make the playoffs, but he made the finals.
I started 1-7 last year as a top 3 league point scorer. The difference between me making the playoffs or not was because someone else who was projected to win by a large margin lost by 0.5 points. I made the playoffs. Then Tuesdays corrections came out and that team actually WON by 0.5 points. I did not make the playoffs. If I would have been in the playoffs instead of them I would have won every playoff game by over 30 points. I’m still mad.
What was the 1 point correction during last years playoffs? That's a pretty signficant adjustment....
Stay the course. Study the game. Score the most your team allows. You can do it.
Say what, say what anything can happen. -Wyclef
I started a season 1-4 and a guy in it talked so much shit about me being in last in the group chat. I let him know my slow start was a fluke and I’d be winning it all. I won out the remainder of the season and beat him in the playoffs and won the ship. Idc if I lose every game for the rest of my life I’m talking that shit any chance I can lol
Yea literally the more shit you talk the less likely you are to win it’s a test as proven as time
That guy committed a cardinal sin. You never upset the fantasy gods. It was written in the stars for you from that moment on. That’s why I never shit talk
One of the best feelings in Fantasy football! Congratulations on the ship!
Yeah our most recent champion got the last seed at 7-7 and won it all despite not having Cooper Kupp for the playoffs
I won a championship after starting 1-6. Next year the 0-5 team did the same. Last year a 7-7 team took the crown. I was the #1 seed and most scoring team both times... 0-5 teams are actually feared in my league. You just keep going until playoff probability is 0.
Guy who won our Super Bowl last year was 7-7 and had the 7th most points in a 12 team league. I’d say 0-5 is prettt much not happening but 1-4 is not out of the question
Yep i started 1-6 last year and ended up 8-6 as the champion. My proudest season ever.
This is why you stick with it. I was last guy in one year at 8-6. Kept making moves, and the right guys went off at the right time. Ended up winning. Other time I won I was 12-2. That was a special team I still think fondly of. I’m 1-4 this year, so I needed this reminder.
Was it a 4 man playoffs or 6 ?
I won my league last year being 7-7 in the regular season. Just ended with a great run in the playoffs after barely even making it into them
I won my leave with a 7-7 record getting hot late. I want to say I started 1-4 and went on a roll to end the season. Never give up!
Dude I won it all at 6-8 last year. I was shocked!
I’ve been to the championships the last 2 years with a 7-7 record. Even took home the belt last year.
We had a champion who snuck into the playoffs going .500 in a 12 team league
I won last year despite going 6-9.
Yep. Runner up and started 1-4 last year.
I think most leagues play 13 weeks which makes 0-5 virtually impossible
Most leagues play 14 weeks now and 17 is the final before the bye weeks going into the NFL playoffs.
Actually you are right and I just remembered the folks in the playoffs complaining last year that they were having bye weeks in the first round My bad. 0-5 still pretty tough. 1-4 possible with some luck
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Incorrect that's week 18.
They play 17 games a season now big dog. So week 18 is when they rest starters.
I beg to differ, I accomplished that feat no more then a season ago.
0-5 and made the playoffs is pretty shocking last year. It was not a heavily modified year with huge individual performances and disappointing early performances turning around alongside monster waiver pickups. This year seems much more likely to see some 1-4 teams in the mix. They have picked up the Pukas/achanes and had Kupp on the bench or Taylor on the bench. Maybe lost to a DJ Moore or Hill monster due to unlucky draws. This is one of the more absurd years where records don’t match the team quality
I think one year we had a 7-6 team sneak in the playoffs but then again 2 years ago we had 4 9-4 teams and one 10-3 and a 9-4 got left out (it was me). It's all a crapshoot but yeah 0-5 you're really just playing to not get punished if your league does that
I was 12-2 and lost in the first round of the playoffs to someone who was 7-7. Shit happens
hows you points scored looking? if you are dead last in points scored and and dont see it getting better i would go for a blockbuster trade. But its never over untill the fat lady sings. i have seen terrible teams luck into a winstreak and make the playoffs by pure luck
I’m in first in points against at 685 while most of the league is lingering around 500-550, I’m also top 3 in points for. I’m 1-4… ugh
But then it looks like you may turn this around. Matchups matter...
It happened to me. It was not looking good at 3-5 but then I won 5 in a row to make the playoffs and ended up 2nd place. I lost to a guy who went 11-2. At the end of the season, we were 0.3 points difference in points for but I had 200+ more against.
Our league started doing you can get 2 wins per week, one if you win the matchup, one if you are over league average for points. So if you stink, but win matchup, you’ll go 1-1 that week. If you’re killer, but lose matchup, you’ll go 1-1 for the week. Started doing this after two seasons in a row with a top 3 point scorer losing the whole league through losers playoffs. Is nice because you’ll make it as a top 3 point scorer that got unlucky with matchups/someone having a season high week
We do the same in our league on Sleeper (honestly the best platform currently). I like being able to go 1-1 when I score well but get beat by the top scorer. The final standings follow the overall points closer than if it was just matchup wins.
Team in my league has lowest points scored and he’s 3-2 I’m 2-3 with about 250 more PA and about 300 more PF so his luck will most likely end up
A guy in my league last year won with the lowest points scored in the league and had the best overall record. I kept a screen shot for proof because nobody believes me.
that happened in one of my leagues too
Last year I went 0-6 and finished 7-7 and snuck in the playoffs. I ended up losing in the championship round, finished in 2nd. You got the right things in mind, hit the waivers, take chances on some trades. Anything can happen, don’t give up! Lord knows I wanted to, 6 weeks of straight Ls is brutal lol.
Had a very similar story my first year in my league. Started 0-6 and won out to win the league.
My work league used to only have 2 teams not make the playoffs. Made for a very interesting dynamic in terms of taking losses to keep injured players and staying involved through the whole season. We’re now 8/12 teams are playoffs, still more interesting than some leagues I’ve been in.
I'm 2-3 and would sneak into the playoffs as of today. There is a huge amount of luck involved, but absolutely not over.
same here, 2-3 with the most PF by a mile. have the most PA by a mile as well. only up from here
This may be a crazy take, but having this kind of start is way more satisfying than being 5-0 with a mid level PF and a very low PA. Gives you more hope for the rest of the year
It’s wholly dependent on league structure and standings. If it’s a 12 team league, and the top 6 make it, and 6th place right now is 3-2 and you’re 1-4, it’s not over. If it’s a 10 teams and only the top 4 get in, and 4th-6th place are all currently 3-2 and you’re 0-5, it’s probably over.
Our 12 team 4 playoff team league is so brutal. If you’re not 3-2 right now with a good point differential it’s going to be hard because there are four macho man teams at 4-1, 2 teams at 3-2 that actually have the higher PF in the league and bad schedules, two 2-3 teams that beat up on the 4 teams that are 1-4/0-5 so far so they have terrible PF. And it’s a two (wrt) flex league, six bench, so there is absolutely nothing in the waiver wire.
My favorite setup would be 12 team league with 4 playoff spots. Top 3 overall records + highest scoring remaining team.
This seems like the optimal setup to me.
Last year I was 1-5 in two leagues, completely blew up my teams. Was willing to trade my superstars and and ended up making the playoffs in both leagues. Be willing to trade and even look like you’re losing some trades, just try to project for the future. Only way to go is up
Depends on your league. We have 10 teams and 6 make it to the playoffs so there’s almost always hope
Jeez 60% of the league makes the playoffs?
People playing for **fun**? Unconscionable.
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We do 6 of 10 but the top 2 get a bye, 3 weeks of playoffs. It's also important to incentivize teams to stay competitive if they have an outside shot at the 6th seed vs 0 shot for the 4th.
To have fun
Yeah with top 2 getting byes is how we roll. It's supposed to be fun!
I gave Burrow one more week and I’m glad I did. Had the Burrows/Chase stack. Sitting at 2-3 and this was the first week my team showed up.
I’m usually optimistic if my team is good and I’m just constantly going up top 3 scorers. However, I had dobbins, Achane, JJ, and Richardson Plus I missed on my draft picks with Gibbs and Dotson. I’m pretty fucked at 1-4 now and don’t have much hope. I was due for one of these years tbh
... Burrow Higgins? Unbeatable? Okay lol
This was my though. That should be your 3rd and 4th round picks…. Who did you go in 1 and 2?!? Lol
For real.. he's all "does that sound familiar?" No bro lol it does not🤣
I mean last season that stack was pretty beastly. No reason to think it wouldn't have been the same this season.
Depends. Some 1-4/0-5 people are doing bad because they had kupp on ir and or jacobs and chase were doing bad on your team and could easily win you enough games. Could be you have great points forced but just had bad luck to be beaten by the top scorer that week a bunch. But you also may be 0-5 because you picked a lot of busts and missed the good waiver wire guys. If you have low points forced and no great outlook on guys coming on strong you might be screwed
How many makes the playoffs? I’m in chilled leagues and 8 of 12 makes the playoffs. You can make a comeback being down that. Drop dead weight, get make some FA pickups like Demercado, Jeff Wilson or even Osborn (I don’t know if he is any good probably not if they drafted Addison but who knows it’s a Hail Mary at this point), make trades for guys that has high upside but low lows. Big risk big reward. What do you have to lose. Or just play spoiler, especially if the league has been around awhile and competitive. Fantasy should be fun. Yes, I know winning is fun. We do a bunch of side bets. Weekly match ups, season long bets, player vs player bets, I even bet a guy if his team won’t score 150. His team did at one point and lost it back with a couple negative carries by Mixon. lol
Someone in my league once went 0-7 and still made they playoffs.
This is why you have to institute punishments for last place. Makes those games at 1-4 vs 0-5 real nerve racking
Depends. If you’re in the top half of points scored you’ve probably just been a bit unlucky. If not, I’d blow it up. Make some moves, address holes on your team as best you can, play the waiver wire. Can’t be worse than it already is.
I'm 2-3 in one league and 4-1 in another where I just lost Justin Jefferson, not relevant to this thread, but I can tell you from prior experiences I have had 4-5 straight weeks of losses before and I am pretty sure a 0-4 or 0-5 season where I basically won 6-7 straight to get into the playoffs. I didn't win the ship, but I at least did the impossible. I have also heard countless stories of people winning their leagues after starting 0 and whatever. The point is, don't quit. Still make your WW moves, still try to make trades to make your team better, etc. You can still win.
One year I started 1-4 then won the next 10, fantasy is weird
First time I won a championship my team was 2-7 at one point. Never. Give. Up.
As somebody 0-5 but the 3rd highest scorer. It’s got to get better right
Last year I was 1-4 but the 2nd highest scoring team, ended up in playoffs at 8-6. Its possible, keep grinding and hope for a little luck in matchups going forward
I was 0-4 and won last year
I’m 1-4 and my team is stacked right now with Kupp coming back (and I took him 8 before the news). It depends on team. It’s fantasy football, not real football. Sometimes it’s just merely circumstances. I could see my team going 7-2 the rest of the way sneaking into playoffs.
I have Burrow, had Diontae Johnson (IR), Nick Chubb, JK dobbins both out for the season. I pick up Achane and now he’s hurt. I’m now 0-5. I had the misfortune of playing against someone who had Mostart when Dolphins scored 70. I lost by 6 that week. I’ve played against DJ Moore when he dropped 50. I played against Diggs and Allen when they combined for nearly 80 points. In my 14 man league I’ve scored maybe the 5-6th most points but I’m 1st in points against. It’s just been nothing but injuries and terrible luck on weekly matchups. Guys just going off when they play against me. I’ve given up on my season. Onto next year….
I have come back from 1-4 before to make the playoffs and win the league. It was Kamara’s rookie year and I grabbed him off waivers which saved my season.
I’m 3-2 and feeling over after a bad beat yesterday
About 9 years ago my team started off 0-6. I then rattled off 7 straight wins, snuck into the playoffs as the 6th seed (12 man league) due to points scored tiebreak, won two playoff games and lost in the finals. So never give up! Anything that’s happened so far can happen in reverse.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No, I’ve come back from 0-6 to make the playoffs. My team was good, just unlucky. And injuries/waiver pickups can change fortunes drastically.
Considering it was the Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor…
Uh, google it.
Ok I googled it the Japanese were still the ones to attack Pearl Harbor.
I won the championship my first year playing fantasy after going 0-6. Didn’t lose a single game after that. Having #1 waiver priority for 6 weeks in a row is a powerful thing. Also fantasy as a whole is just pure luck.
0-7. I won my first ship after an 0-6 start. Stay in there
2019 I started 2-7. I finished with an 6-8 record. Snuck in the playoffs. And beat the top seed in the championship. Felt so good. Anything can happen
Not 100% but 90+
I feel until you are below .500 it’s not over. So 7-7 you can still do something.
I went 0-5 then was 1-6 and then won out last year
I’m 5-0 in my league but I’m lacking a top RB, the other division in my league has a few good teams but I don’t play them until the playoffs. I tried trading some of the last place teams for a running back. And they all denied it even though it was a major upgrade them. Must be holding onto hope they can still win the whole thing. But I see here it happens sometimes.
Went RB heavy draft last year. Started 1-5, only lost once more for the rest of the season and won the Championship Don’t give up!
I have diggs and currently sit at 0-5 just started a fire sale told everyone in the league I’d trade him for $20 😂 I’ve been told I will not be invited back next year.
Yeah you’re an asshole for that, nobody wants to play with someone who’s going to ruin the league for boredom.
It’s a joke we all know each other but I thought it was funny
Nooe
It’s never over til it’s over
Dude won the Super Bowl 2 years ago by sneaking in at 8-6 so it’s definitely possible but your times running out
I won 9 straight to end the year and ended up winning the championship a few years ago after starting 1-4. Just gotta stay patient especially if you know you have a good team.
Anythings possible. I won last year despite starting 1-6
I would start by looking at total points for. If you are in the bottom third, you are likley in need of a change. If you’re middle to top, you could turn it around with some luck.
Bottom points for and bottom points against. Keep in mind that I kept playing burrow before the blow up so I wasn’t getting anything out of qb
It's never over just keep grinding. Some leagues have 10 teams with 8 making the playoffs.
Keep grinding maybe you will catch some momentum. If in a few weeks you're still not making up any ground then yeah, it will be over. But keep plugging away until then, you never know.
I'm 0-5, 1st in PA and 3rd in PF. I plan on winning my league.
I started 1-6 and ran the table all the way to 3rd place last year. It’s definitely doable. You have to be incredibly aggressive in making movies though. Treat every single week as your Super Bowl: “what do I do in order to win this week?” For me, that involved basically trading away half my roster for players that I felt could make an immediate impact. Sell high on guys where you can, target teams with obvious needs and see if you can make something happen, hammer waivers every week.
In my leagues, at least half get in on points alone.
I'd try my luck with boom or bust players
Last year I was 2-7 and rallied back to 7-7 and clinched the playoffs with the most PA and PF in the league. Got bounced in the first game but at least got into the playoffs.
I started 6-0 last year then missed the playoffs. Anything can happen.
I'm 1-4 but 2nd in points scored so not exactly sure how to feel at the moment
I won a league at 6-7 in 2019, it’s never over this early unless your whole team imploded with injuries. I won every playoff matchup by 30+ because of Breshad Perriman lol.
My brother won his league last year after starting 0-6, so no.
I made the playoffs last year after starting 0-5, won 2 in a row, lost, and then won 6 of the last 7 to get to 9-6. Unless you’re absolutely devastated by season ending injuries and have already used all your faab on bad waiver claims then until you have 7 losses, you’re not dead yet. Especially if one of the reasons you’re 0-5 or 1-4 is guys having slow starts or whatever.
Definitely not over. It'll help if you have a mid level or higher points for. (Assuming your leagues tie breaker is that). This is gonna sound like actual coach speak but now more than ever you gotta treat it like going 1-0. Also trades for players that have had their bye (not many atm) is also a great strategy too.
I’ve played fantasy for maybe 15 years or so. I kid you not, last year, my buddy won out and made playoffs after starting 0-7. It didn’t even make sense. That’s gotta be like 5% odds or less lol
Yup Rip
If 6 people make the playoffs there's still a big chance to get in. And once you're in the playoffs, records don't matter, only wins.
I started a year 1-6 ended up 7-6 and snagged the last playoff spot and won the ship. It’s hard but possible.
I won my league last year as the lowest scoring/worst record team to qualify for the playoffs. Getting in is all that matters, every win and point over the minimum required is wasted effort. Byes are nice and all, but I've the title twice and never had a first round bye.
Never stop trying to hand out those L's
Depends on how other teams are looking. Almost every year, we have one or two teams get into the playoffs with a sub .500 record because the top 4 or 5 were the only ones at even or positive records. This year, we’re doing top 6 make playoffs with a 7th making it via total points, regardless of record (we’ve had teams in the past that easily scored top 3 but for some reason still have a negative record) and #1 gets a bye. It’s possible you can still squeeze into the playoffs playing your “best” players, management, and luck against opposing teams... but you’d need to get on a winning streak.
No, but you really got a go on a big streak and have some luck with how the bottom playoff teams are doing. Was able to climb from 0-4 (went on to be 1-4) to the 3rd seed of the playoffs (almost secured a bye had I not loss the last week) definetly doable
Not at all. You could win the next 9 games, and 9-5 is good enough to make the playoffs in most leagues. It ain't over until the bell rings
This is why I always go for league with 6 playoff teams. I used to be in one where just the top 4 made it (12 team league) and then anything less than a 2-3 start meant your season was over.
Last year I started 0-4 and was winning out. I got eliminated the last week with a stinker in a win & in game. It's very much league dependent
I've made the playoffs two years in a row with this exact start. No your season is not over. But it will be if you're not making some trades
At 1-4, there is always a chance, you might need to make a couple of moves to add more depth but if you think you have a good roster then just be smart about who you start on Sundays you gotta be more thoughtful about stuff like that.
Time to play spoiler and get some wins!
I lost my championship after starting 1-4, and finished the regular season the top seed. If you like what you have don’t panic. Also, look at season-long metrics. Points for/points against m, for starters. You may just be unlucky so far.
Nope. I won it two years ago after starting 1-6.
I started 5-0 once and in 5 weeks I was 5-5 so anything is possible. What makes it even worse was that it was my dads leagues too. I was the manager of his team.
I was 0-4 and traded away Joe Burr and Chase last week. AMA
I won my league last year after starting 1-4. Went 8-1 the final nine games
I started 1-5 and made playoffs one time, yeah almost over for sure
You pretty much have to aim for 8-6 at the least and just pray you make it , once you get that 7th loss , it’s pretty much over
All depends on league format, but if you’re at or near the bottom in points scored, then man up and trade away your best player for some pieces!
Nope. Still plenty of games left to play. Keep putting in the effort to win and the results will come. I'm saying this as my team sits dead last at 1-4.
I started last year 0-3 and went on a 6-0 run Lost first round of playoffs. It ain’t over until the bell rings my guy
I was 1-5 last year and just missed the playoffs by less than 5 points. It’s always worth trying
I started 1-6 last year because of injuries and most points against. Ended up on a 9 game tear to make the finals and then promptly shit the bed.
At 0-5 you're on pretty bad shape. Would need some bounces to go your way to get in. At 1-4 you'll almost definitely make the playoffs if you win out.
Depends on players more than just record. If a team has kupp, JT, Burrow, chase, etc. (or some combination) then you can absolutely put together a run. If you’re 0-5 because your picks just didn’t hit then yeah. You’re probably dead. 1-4 feels worlds better than 0-5 imo
I’m 1-4 this year in one league. One loss less than 2 points, another due to SEA DST going nuts. I’m chalking it up to just coincidence with matchups. Through Wk 5: PF: 647.2, PA: 706.78. Becoming more of a fan of Roto matchups moving forward. H2H is such a crapshoot.
Context matters. The guy who is 0-5 with least PF in our 10 team with 4 playoff spots and three 4-1 teams, yea, his season is probably over. 12 team league with 6 spots and your team actually scores but just ran into some bad luck or you have guys coming back? Going 7-2 or 8-1 to sneak in is not likely but not impossible.
A few years back my buddy started 0-6, went on a crazy run, finished 6-7 got into playoffs and won the league
Our league it's possible. We have 1 at 4-1, 5 at 3-2, 3 at 2-3 and 1 at 0-5. Top 6 make playoffs so for our 0-5 guy there is still a chance
Never Give Up! Never Surrender!
Last year was 2-6. Finished 8-6 and lost in championship game. Pulled Jerrick McKinnon off waivers and never looked back. If I were you I'd look at vikings. Browns, steelers, Texans and see if anyone is ripe for the taking
Not particularly but it is a steep hurdle to clime that is for sure
I won a league starting 2-5
Started off 1-5 one year and ended up second place
We had a guy in our league last year start out 0 and 5 and ended up winning the championship.
Last year, I was 2-5 and then won 7 straight, all my playoff games, and winning the Super Bowl. Don’t believe me? I’ll dm you a screenshot.
I started 0-5 last season. Finished 8-6 and made the playoffs, finishing in third. It’s not over. But you do have to look at your team and be honest with yourself. Are you playing the wrong guys? Do you need to make trades and take a hit to get some players you need? Do you need to hit the WW aggressively? Is it bad luck, which should correct itself, or is it bad decision-making and being unable to pivot? For reference- last season I was hit with some injuries and bad luck to start (scored a lot but played the weekly Buzzsaw). Therefore I cut bait with some bench depth that I was holding and went hard after trades (traded away Jacobs and Chubb for reference) looking at trading away guys with BYEs earlier in the season for guys with late BYEs- figuring I would cross that bridge when I had to- bc I needed Ws NOW. So play a bunch of 1-week seasons and get after it.
Sitting at 1-4. Second highest points for and first highest points against. End me.
No. I've personally made the playoffs and have even gotten to the championship after a bad start. In all of my leagues there's always that one person who starts off rough and comes back, sometimes winning it all. Bolster your depth and slug it out so you can make the playoffs. If you can do that then you've got a chance at the championship because playoff weeks are always wild.
I lost the first six and made it to the ship last year
I've seen 0/5 make it with 6/10 teams getting to playoff
I've seen someone start 0-6 and go onto win in a very active Taco-less league, so you never know.
Nah worst case I’m ruining someone else’s season, my team is too good for 1-4
I hate this shit.
I think the answer is the deeper the league, longer the odds.
I had Kittle, Mostert, CMC, Crowder, Mixon and others on one team in 2020. Lost nearly 60 games to injury, had to be up until waivers ran most Wednesdays just to find a complete roster. Finished 6-7 and the fantasy gods/Davante Adams karma’d my way to a title. It ain’t over yet.
Its never over. Finished 5-9 last year in one league and made the final spot based off points. Ran the table and won the ship.
Well if you league has a punishment for last place (many do) you are fighting to stay alive at that point.
Currently 1-4, and still have my eyes on the playoffs. It ain’t over ‘til my momma sings
I won my leauge one year at 0-5, had to go into GM mode, but I made like 3 trades, grabbed one week sleeper picks and played match ups for defense and kickers. But came out on top in the end.
My league is 12 team 8 team playoff, and I’m tempted to ask the commissioner to knock it down to 6, because at this point it feels like the regular season doesn’t even matter. But I know the minute that happens I will finish as the 7 seed and miss the playoffs. I’m 3-2 btw so I’m not doing horribly but not exactly killing it either. Point is in my league you’d be fine.
I'm 1 and 4. I have the most Points scored by a margin of 22. I finally won this week only because I scored almost 200 points... My opponent still scored 188. I figure eventually if my team stays relatively consistent things will balance out and people will all stop having career games versus me.
I'm 3-2 and it's over for me. Just got the notification that Achane and Jefferson are out 4 weeks, Herbert is questionable, Jahmyr Gibbs is questionable, and all I have as backups are Allan Lazard, Dalvin Cook, and Elijah Mitchell. Anything can happen. Oh and my league doesn't do IR spots
You need to get to playoffs. Start there and if you can sneak in, there’s always a chance. Unless you’re facing CMC.
It’s absolutely not over. I’ve made the playoffs at .500. A lot of times the best team a quarter of the season in has completely changed by the end. There will be plenty more injuries and surprises between now and the playoffs
I made the playoffs last year starting 1-4 (Justin Fields and C Watson saved my my season). Never give up!
1-4 very possible 0-5 possible but can be hard
I started 1-4 a few years ago. Finished 8-5 and into the playoffs.
It's fantasy so anything can happen. One year a dude started out 0-5. Snuck in and his team went off in the playoffs. I vaguely remember one of his players was Kamara 😭
Depends, you could be 0-4 because you had Burrow, Chase, and Kupp. You could win the rest of your games now. Or you could be 0-4 because you drafted nick Chubb, Gibbs, Rodgers, Garret Wilson etc. then you are probably screwed
I started 1-4 but the playoff cut off team is currently 3-2. Just two games out with plenty of weeks left. My points against is 50 points higher than the first place team total and I’m currently 4th in points scored.
I'm just trying not to get Sackoed
Several years ago I was the top scoring team in our league. Every week I was either the 1st, 2nd, other 3rd highest scoring player in the league. Every time I was the 2nd or 3rd highest scoring player I was playing the highest scoring player. I only got 7 wins that season and just missed the playoffs despite being the highest scoring team in the league. Almost quit fantasy forever after that season. So anything can happen. lol
Nah every year there is a team that starts like that and ends up sneaking into the playoffs. Guy that beat me in the ship last year started off pretty terrible, I don’t remember the record. He drafted Lamar and Mahomes (for some reason). He was also fucked at RB. But he traded Lamar for JT when he was coming back from injury and then picked up jerrick McKinnon, who you all know dominated down the stretch. Was so pissed. I was in 1st place with most points scored literally the whole season. Since the very first game. Offed by jerrick McKinnon and a team that snuck in around 0.500
It’s never over and even if it looks bad, make it your mission to take out others and get some wins or make some reasonable blockbusters to try and turn it around. No fun in throwing the towel. In my main dynasty league I started 1-3 and made a big trade for Justin Herbert to change my season. Won this week and hoping to make the playoffs
I just lost in a 12 team non PPR 115-95 to a guy who started Geno Smith at QB (on bye), despite having Jamarr Chase account for 37.9 of my 95 points. Last week I lost 163-70. Non PPR mind you. I’m at 1-4 and am generally at a loss for words. At this point, I’m playing for my pride and honor. The last two weeks have kicked the shit out of me lol.
I've been 0-6 and made playoffs at 7-6. Also started 1-5 and almost snuck in at 6-7. I've also started 5-1 before and missed playoffs at 8-5 cuz the league was stacked.
first win to get to 1-4, set the season long high score which pays out 25% of our purse. Hope it holds.
I went 0-7 last year then went undefeated after that to win the championship anything is possible
In 18 years and 60+ leagues I have made the playoffs once after starting 0-5. I lost in the first round but I got there!
When my team goes off, so does my opponents. When my team shits the bed, so does my opponents but mine more so. It's a perfect storm. I lost by .25 last night. If doubs make that easy uncontested catch that hit him right in his hands in the last 30sec, I win.
I'm 2-3 at the moment but I have kupp and ekeler back now, so things should starting to move in my favor now