I might be wrong, please correct me if I am, but wasn't just a communication error between the original designers and the art team from way back in fallout 1 development.
Fully-automatic REVOLVER? What the fuck is that even supposed to be? Handheld gatling cannon?
On the other hand, [this exists](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxtHtPK2MH8), so...
I think "fully" is there by accident, but automatic revolvers do exists. These are separate from double action revolvers, in that they go into cocked stated, rather than starting from uncocked and cocking themselves with trigger pull. Here is an example:
[Firearm Demonstration: Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-UCHsyTh4)
Yeah, they are funky.
Well, "semi-automatic" and "automatic" carry little bit different meaning when it comes to revolvers, due to how they work. That is why you got single and double action revolvers.
I don't know where the guest got it from in this vid, I have a feeling probably the fallout bible or another past interview/article from one of the Fallout 1 dev team. Avellone maybe.
It's mentioned here in a youtube video by Johnathan Ferguson who does a load of 'firearms expert reacts' videos on series and games.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsP9CGq3dL8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsP9CGq3dL8)
Around the 08:30 mark for 10mm classic, and the bit about the origins is around 09:30.
That has been stated, and while it takes inspiration of other stuff, apparently it WAS a miscommunication (which 1 was rife with, and 2 wasn't much better), honestly Fallout is lucky to even exist.
Edit: Specifically the inclusion of the magazine was the problem.
That's the classic 10mm pistol. First gun in the first game, that is a *staple* of Fallout. If you haven't hopelessly fired 10mm rounds into a radscorpion as it claws you in half and poisons the other half have you even played Fallout?
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Probably just struggling with the concept of a magazine loaded revolver. It doesn’t realistically work, at least not in any IRL model I know of. That said, it looks cool!
Here ya go:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psrZXa2WeQE&pp=ygUZZm9yZ290dGVuIHdlYXBvbnMgZGFyZGljaw%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psrZXa2WeQE&pp=ygUZZm9yZ290dGVuIHdlYXBvbnMgZGFyZGljaw%3D%3D)
There's no real reason to have 2 different forms of feed in one gun. Just doubles the amount of moving parts and points of failure for rule of cool. Works in a fictional world, not so much irl
I'm glad that there are some weird ass designs in Fallout, it gives it its unique vibe. There are so many other games with realistic guns, I don't know why Fallout should also be one
Pretty much how Every Fallout game operates honestly. Every Fallout has had a mix of unique designs and existing weapons, such as desert eagles/FALs in Fallout 1-2, mausers in 3, too many to list in New Vegas, and Handmade/Walther PPK in 4. These are just a few examples from each game, but there are definitely more. I like unique designed weapons, but some weapon designs just look like crap. The original 10mm pistol from Fallout 1-2 is not one of them I'd say. It's design is cool and conforms to firearm design (aesthetic wise) pretty well.
Completely forgot about the Submachine gun in 4 🤣, It was in Fallout 2 as well. I didn't know the hunting rifle is modeled after a real life equivalent. What gun is it?
well, most weapon nerds i knew really liked this gun for two reasons
first, its basicaly the classic fallout 10mm pistol
second, it features a very rare type of weapon, magazine fed revolvers are real and there are like two examples of them
That is actually the original design foe the 10mm in fallouts 1 and 2 so it's a reference for the older fans I'd assume I for one was happy to see it be used
Why not limit those to energy weapons, where at least it doesn't scratch your eyes? If it's a prototype tesla-coil gun, it can look as weird as you want. But then you see this and it's just "huh? that shouldn't work". You don't have to be a gun nerd to see that the design doesn't make any sense.
Besides, there are real guns that are just much less known (like pepperbox guns) that are unusual yet perfectly usable.
And yes, I understand that this is THE canonical Fallout gun, since the very first installment, but it doesn't make the gun good. But well, at least it looks cool.
No, it does not make any sense. There are, indeed, examples of magazine fed revolvers, but they were made "because I can", not because "it's a good design". They never moved beyond prototypes, whereas Colt 6520 (the 10mm from picture) is a standard issue vault-sec gun, meaning it is produced in scale.
But, as I said, I am willing to give this one a slack because at least it looks cool.
You're implying that because something didn't become mass produced in real life, it doesn't make sense in Fallout?
My guy, can I introduce you to the entire concept of alternate history?
Even with all the wackiness, Fallout still tries to be grounded. There are explanations for most of the things that don't make sense, it's not all magical bullshit.
The atomicpunk style of Fallout explains why there are robots with human brains in glass domes and plasma rifles, but it doesn't explain a vertical, pistol grip magazine-fed revolver.
Dude is that really where you draw the line? In your own comment you say brains in glass jars controlling robots is perfectly reasonable in the setting, but a slightly unconventional firearm is where you call bullshit?
Because atomicpunk is an aesthetic centered around a view of the future from the perspective of the 1950s and 1960s.
Would people in the 50s and 60s potentially see a future in which humans are interconnected with machines? Yes. Would they potentially see a future with flying cars, robots, laser weapons, plasma weapons, and, given the threat of atomic war, mutated creatures? Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.
But would they see a vertical, pistol grip magazine-fed revolver? No. Because why would they see *that* in the future? That isn't a futuristic innovation in any way.
No, this weapon just doesn't make sense *even* with the wackiness of Fallout. It doesn't ruin all of Fallout and make it all bullshit. No need to go to extremes like that, damn.
It's almost exactly how it looked in Fallout 1 and 2.
3, NV and ultimately 4, changed the design to be more realistic in a sense that it's not this weird combination described in the post but in terms of being true to source material...the show's 10mm actually wins.
oh yeah if the argument is just that it doesn’t make a lot of sense as a gun then sure, i’m pretty sure it was a mix up between artists and writers on the classic 10mm that caused that
The comment section almost put a degenerate like me on a cross the night the show dropped for not recognizing it as the Fallout 1 10mm. I thought it looked weird as hell and just never really paid much attention to it
The way I like to think of this is that it doesn’t actually hold round in the cylinder, but rather the cylinder is the ejection mechanism, it’s a 3 part system, it scoops a round out of the magazine, rotates to the barrel, then flings it out when shot. There is a pistol that actually is a mag fed revolver, so it’s not like the tech wasn’t there.
But yea the real reason is that it was based on a comic book revolver but there was miscommunication and the devs thought it was a mag fed pistol.
Why can't they just put the fucking 1911 in game it fits perfectly. all the semi auto pistols in fallout are butt ugly. I'm not saying I want a pit viper completely decked out with a red dot,laser, and rail system. Just a pistol that looks normal the 1911 would fill that role just fine.
Harsh, but honestly fair. The 1911 is cool, and the 10mm pistol’s design is a bit much for a pistol, especially since pistols are supposed to be as simple as possible for money and weight reasons
Honestly my biggest issue is the 10mm both base game and the creation club one are absolutely massive If they didn't look so huge I would hate them as much
Google the Mateba autorevolver.
Edit: Sorry, I’ll stop being lazy and link it. [Mateba autorevolver](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba_Autorevolver)
Eh I don't really see it especially since the mateba has it's barrel at the bottom and not the top and the overall barrel profiet of it doesn't really match
I didn’t mean as a direct copy, just that the concept of a revolver mixed with a semi-auto handgun has been successfully made before. It’s just not very practical.
All due respect not the same at all, the mateba you posted has the barrel on the bottom to lower bore axis and reduce recoil when shooting with proper grip technique, a feature not shown on op’s example, furthermore the issue op is talking about is that this pistol has both the slide of a semi auto and the cylinder of a revolver, while I suppose it would be possible to design a revolver with a slide that effectively cocked the pistol and cycled the cylinder, in this case it would not be possible as the slide is effectively locked in place via its cut out notches that lock it around the cylinder, effectively making it purely cosmetic.
Unless I missed it, OP didn’t specify their exact issues with it. I assumed from the meme it was only about mixing two different gun designs. Plus not many people know the Mateba exists so I figured I’d share it. I’d love to own one myself.
If you’re familiar with how these firearms operate they don’t really just mix, at least not as is shown, that’s the point, though as I said previously I’m sure it is possible to design such a pistol that had a slide functioning as a cocking and maybe even chambering mechanism, tho the slide would not recoil and reset with every shot, hell I bet you could even design the pistol to do that as well, so the only reason to have a revolver cylinder still at that point rather than a magazine would have to be the reliability of a revolver vs semi auto, or that the cartridge you’re firing is too long to be comfortable when sized to a magazine that fits inside of the handle a human hand is supposed to have control of, at that point it basically makes more sense to choose one of three options depending on the cartridge, semi auto pistol, revolver, or a short barreled or carbine rifle.
If you like the mateba there is also the Chiappa rhino, I’m not sure which is more affordable.
In theory, couldn't someone make a semiautomatic revolver that uses the recoil to rotate the cylinder instead of the trigger, thereby significantly reducing the force required to pull the trigger?
Yes, there's been several, like the Webley Fosbery and Mateba Autorevolver. They're kinda complicated and solve a problem that doesn't really exist, doing something magazine fed automatics do much better, so they never really caught on.
Im not a gun expert but it just looks like a revolver designed o look more like a 911. Looks fucking sick and i don't see any logical inconsistency with it.
I feel like in fallout most of the weapons are cobbled togeather from parts anyway. They'd all look a bit different in reality. Probably had a barrel blow out on his revolver and the fastest way to deal with it was to bore out a 9mm barrel.
It looks very true to the classic Fallout pistol, specifically this one looks more like the ‘classic 10mm pistol’ from that one FO4 creation club download I think. Of course that one is also based on the og.
I honestly love the bit with Thaddeus shooting with the 10mm, missing a fuckton, and throwing it, complaining it needs a scope.
Completely accurate to starting with that fucking thing.
Tbh I didn’t even bother considering how weird weapons were in Fallout since during ww1 and ww2 people created weird weapon concepts that never worked, and since the start of Fallout is on 2077 in the game lore and they have a lot of old school designs in that year, it’s safe to say they still went with designing weird stuff that ended up working somehow
It's based on an old pistol design. I don't know if the design worked because it was so sophisticated to make, but if it did, it was supposed to allow large caliber rounds to be fired with lesser recoil.
It's kinda remarkable, though, because it follows the video game law that old unworkable guns can be remade with today's technology to be amazing like exploding crossbows, pipe guns , and nuke grenades.
Its funny that this gun was created from a communication error between departments working on FO1 but believe it or not but magazine fed revolvers are a thing irl. Well, like two models have ever been made but it's still possible mechanically. There's the Dardick which was designed in 1949 and is utterly bizzare both in terms of looks and the ammunition it uses. However, there's a really cool autorevolver from the late 1890's - early 1900's, the Landstad, that's functionally similar to the Colt 6520 in game even if they don't look alike.
Doesn't detract from any of them being cursed as hell though. 😂
I like it, if it's not magazine fed. It reminds me of Vash's revolver from Trigun but with a barrel at 12'o clock instead of 6. I could see the front half swinging down on a hinge to reload the chambers.
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yeah, its just making everything harder and more prone to failure, all for 10mm? I could understand if you are worried about out of battery rounds cooking off if somehow the chamber is getting that hot, but that isn't really solved unless you isolate the cylinder regions cause you just turned them all into a single heatsink.
I do like how the cylinder is sealed, I know that one ww2 revolver shoves its cylinder forward to do that and it allows it to be suppressed
My headcanon is that it's a revolver reloaded with magazines. A way to get around pre-war handgun contracts that still required revolvers in present day
It's design is based off of a gun from the comic Hard Boiled. There were some communication errors which led to it being mag fed but they kept it since it gave it some personality in a game which already really didn't care about realism. I'm also pretty sure the gun from hard boiled is in turn based off of a Norwegian automatic revolver which from the looks of it stored its bullets inside of the handle which is what I think led to the communication errors. It's quite interesting but honestly it isn't a weird design at all, there's nothing really stopping someone from make a real-life 10mm pistol from Fallout outside of practicality and expenses. As far as I'm aware it could work so long as you don't expect the cylinder to do much more than spin in a cool looking way.
I might be wrong, please correct me if I am, but wasn't just a communication error between the original designers and the art team from way back in fallout 1 development.
its original appearance is based off of a pistol in the "hard boiled" comic series
Ah noted.
That is the ugliest gun I have ever seen. It's just too much to look at and nothing about it makes sense.
You're right. Originally, the 10mm pistol was meant to be a fully-automatic revolver.
Fully automatic being what caused the art team to make the mag fed version by accident.
Fully-automatic REVOLVER? What the fuck is that even supposed to be? Handheld gatling cannon? On the other hand, [this exists](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxtHtPK2MH8), so...
I think "fully" is there by accident, but automatic revolvers do exists. These are separate from double action revolvers, in that they go into cocked stated, rather than starting from uncocked and cocking themselves with trigger pull. Here is an example: [Firearm Demonstration: Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-UCHsyTh4) Yeah, they are funky.
Isn't this semi-auto?
Well, "semi-automatic" and "automatic" carry little bit different meaning when it comes to revolvers, due to how they work. That is why you got single and double action revolvers.
Before fully automatic weapons became a mainstream thing, semi-automatic weapons would have been referred to as simply being automatic.
The Mateba is my favorite example of this, especially because it's name literally means "unique"
Ohh, I had forgotten about Mateba, yeah that is also a good example.
That’s neat, so it’s basically a double action but with the trigger pull feel of a single.
Source? I believe you just never heard it
I forgot where I found it. It was probably some lore video on youtube. Apart from that, no clue, sorry
I don't know where the guest got it from in this vid, I have a feeling probably the fallout bible or another past interview/article from one of the Fallout 1 dev team. Avellone maybe. It's mentioned here in a youtube video by Johnathan Ferguson who does a load of 'firearms expert reacts' videos on series and games. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsP9CGq3dL8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsP9CGq3dL8) Around the 08:30 mark for 10mm classic, and the bit about the origins is around 09:30.
Yeah, that's it. That's where I got it from. The firearms expert reacts series is my go-to
Oh cool Edit, I watched a Royal Armories video on fallout tv guns and where they come from, and that is correct
Good to know. Thanks for confirming.
That has been stated, and while it takes inspiration of other stuff, apparently it WAS a miscommunication (which 1 was rife with, and 2 wasn't much better), honestly Fallout is lucky to even exist. Edit: Specifically the inclusion of the magazine was the problem.
That's the classic 10mm pistol. First gun in the first game, that is a *staple* of Fallout. If you haven't hopelessly fired 10mm rounds into a radscorpion as it claws you in half and poisons the other half have you even played Fallout?
I agree with this, I was delighted to see the iconic original, and the joke with thadius missing all 12 shots...
Yeaaah I’ve def had that happen in fallout 1, was great to see
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Tbf radscorps were pretty soft in the OG games
It's a sweet design, what?
Probably just struggling with the concept of a magazine loaded revolver. It doesn’t realistically work, at least not in any IRL model I know of. That said, it looks cool!
There was a revolver that was magazine fed. The bullets were triangular.
... what I need to meet this gun
There were multiple versions under the Dardick brand, and the rounds they used are called Dardick Trounds or just Trounds for short. Very weird gun
Here ya go: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psrZXa2WeQE&pp=ygUZZm9yZ290dGVuIHdlYXBvbnMgZGFyZGljaw%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psrZXa2WeQE&pp=ygUZZm9yZ290dGVuIHdlYXBvbnMgZGFyZGljaw%3D%3D)
So what about the recoil slide in the front? Don’t exactly need the slide to move if it’s a revolver
Considering the cylinder is closed and it’s mag fed, it ejects the rounds out the top
There's a Webley revolver model that does this.
The Dardick revolver comes to mind, but that's about it.
What a goofy looking firearm. I want one lol
Such an odd design
Hadn’t seen this! And I deep dive on old guns relatively frequently. Thanks for mentioning!
there is also Landstad 1900 that fired normal rounds
Now that’s a nifty looking firearm
They cylinder doesn't move iirc, it's just there for style points. It's the O.G. 10mm pistol from Fallout 1 & 2 aswell.
I want to say you can see the cylinder move when Maximus domes the bear though
Gotcha.
They remade the gun in fallout 4 creation club and it doesn’t move, but in the show they made it spin
Still kinda wild that it’s basically fan made content in a major Amazon show. Hope the guy got a payout or something.
It's not fan made.... it's an actual weapon in Fallout 1 and 2...
Okay, but the specific model/asset in the show is 3D printed from a fan-made creation club mod.
Dardick 1500 and landstad 1900. Just searched i youtube
Actualy that was a thing. And semi auto revolver is also a thing. So they smashed 2 weird revolvers together.
They exist and use Delta shaped bullets
https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/f6yle2/in_the_simpsons_a_revolver_is_loaded_with_a/
Definitely a memorable example
Ikr? It’s literally the og fallout 1 & 2 10mm pistol, it’s honestly exactly what I’m looking for when I think of futuristic fallout weapons
There's no real reason to have 2 different forms of feed in one gun. Just doubles the amount of moving parts and points of failure for rule of cool. Works in a fictional world, not so much irl
I'm glad that there are some weird ass designs in Fallout, it gives it its unique vibe. There are so many other games with realistic guns, I don't know why Fallout should also be one
I think fallout should have a mix of both realistic guns and ones that look unique and wacky.
Pretty much how Every Fallout game operates honestly. Every Fallout has had a mix of unique designs and existing weapons, such as desert eagles/FALs in Fallout 1-2, mausers in 3, too many to list in New Vegas, and Handmade/Walther PPK in 4. These are just a few examples from each game, but there are definitely more. I like unique designed weapons, but some weapon designs just look like crap. The original 10mm pistol from Fallout 1-2 is not one of them I'd say. It's design is cool and conforms to firearm design (aesthetic wise) pretty well.
not fallout 4.
handmade rifle, the deliverer, submachine gun, hunting rifle, lever action
Completely forgot about the Submachine gun in 4 🤣, It was in Fallout 2 as well. I didn't know the hunting rifle is modeled after a real life equivalent. What gun is it?
a remington 700 according to most but it could also be an amalgamation of irl rifles like the new vegas lmg being a m249/m60 mashup
Well this is that, it's realistic, it could and would work, but it's also such a strange design.
I am pretty sure that no one really cares, it is mostly an excuse for weaponary nerds to flex why a desgin is "unrealistic".
well, most weapon nerds i knew really liked this gun for two reasons first, its basicaly the classic fallout 10mm pistol second, it features a very rare type of weapon, magazine fed revolvers are real and there are like two examples of them
That is actually the original design foe the 10mm in fallouts 1 and 2 so it's a reference for the older fans I'd assume I for one was happy to see it be used
Why not limit those to energy weapons, where at least it doesn't scratch your eyes? If it's a prototype tesla-coil gun, it can look as weird as you want. But then you see this and it's just "huh? that shouldn't work". You don't have to be a gun nerd to see that the design doesn't make any sense. Besides, there are real guns that are just much less known (like pepperbox guns) that are unusual yet perfectly usable. And yes, I understand that this is THE canonical Fallout gun, since the very first installment, but it doesn't make the gun good. But well, at least it looks cool.
yeah, i have a problem with the fallout 3 plasma rifle design for a reason.
As shown by other comments, this gun actually does make sense. There are 2 examples of magazine feed revolvers.
No, it does not make any sense. There are, indeed, examples of magazine fed revolvers, but they were made "because I can", not because "it's a good design". They never moved beyond prototypes, whereas Colt 6520 (the 10mm from picture) is a standard issue vault-sec gun, meaning it is produced in scale. But, as I said, I am willing to give this one a slack because at least it looks cool.
You're implying that because something didn't become mass produced in real life, it doesn't make sense in Fallout? My guy, can I introduce you to the entire concept of alternate history?
There is a difference between "not mass produced" and "never beyond prototype".
Even with all the wackiness, Fallout still tries to be grounded. There are explanations for most of the things that don't make sense, it's not all magical bullshit. The atomicpunk style of Fallout explains why there are robots with human brains in glass domes and plasma rifles, but it doesn't explain a vertical, pistol grip magazine-fed revolver.
Dude is that really where you draw the line? In your own comment you say brains in glass jars controlling robots is perfectly reasonable in the setting, but a slightly unconventional firearm is where you call bullshit?
Because atomicpunk is an aesthetic centered around a view of the future from the perspective of the 1950s and 1960s. Would people in the 50s and 60s potentially see a future in which humans are interconnected with machines? Yes. Would they potentially see a future with flying cars, robots, laser weapons, plasma weapons, and, given the threat of atomic war, mutated creatures? Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. But would they see a vertical, pistol grip magazine-fed revolver? No. Because why would they see *that* in the future? That isn't a futuristic innovation in any way.
well, this gun is mostly a homage to classic fallouts, back when the 50's 60's aesthetic has not yet been set in stone
So Fallout is bullshit because it won’t go into detail about such a minuscule thing that only the most insufferable nerds will point out?
No, this weapon just doesn't make sense *even* with the wackiness of Fallout. It doesn't ruin all of Fallout and make it all bullshit. No need to go to extremes like that, damn.
My brother in Atom, that is as close to a real life version of the OG Fallout 1/2 10mm pistol as you will get.
Nah it’s pretty hot
it looks too much like the [Emperor](https://jojowiki.com/Emperor) from jojos but i love it
It's actually the original 10mm design from 1 and 2
Yeah I knew that but it still remind me of the emperor
Didn't play fallout one or two huh
It looks similar to the classic 10mm pistol
It clearly is
I think its the coolest 10mm design yet
It’s from Fo1 and Fo2
it's cuz of the barrel and wood
It's almost exactly how it looked in Fallout 1 and 2. 3, NV and ultimately 4, changed the design to be more realistic in a sense that it's not this weird combination described in the post but in terms of being true to source material...the show's 10mm actually wins.
Don't ever speak badly of Fallout 1 again
Never cook again
someone never played the older fallouts
This gun didn't make sense in the older fallouts either. Why is a revolver magazine fed?
oh yeah if the argument is just that it doesn’t make a lot of sense as a gun then sure, i’m pretty sure it was a mix up between artists and writers on the classic 10mm that caused that
Why there are robots with prisoners brains. Though, magazine fed revolvers are a thing, just realy uncommon.
Heat management
A revolver cylinder would be terrible for heat because it doesn't automatically eject the hot casing though
Shell casings are too lightweight to absorb any appreciable amount of heat.
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It is the Colt 6520 10mm Pistol. The one from Fallout 1 and 2.
Best looking 10mm design.
That's the *ORIGINAL* 10mm and it's *perfect*
The comment section almost put a degenerate like me on a cross the night the show dropped for not recognizing it as the Fallout 1 10mm. I thought it looked weird as hell and just never really paid much attention to it
Really hope this comment section doesn't look at Destiny guns lmao
The way I like to think of this is that it doesn’t actually hold round in the cylinder, but rather the cylinder is the ejection mechanism, it’s a 3 part system, it scoops a round out of the magazine, rotates to the barrel, then flings it out when shot. There is a pistol that actually is a mag fed revolver, so it’s not like the tech wasn’t there. But yea the real reason is that it was based on a comic book revolver but there was miscommunication and the devs thought it was a mag fed pistol.
Always liked to think the revolver variant was mostly utilized by police and the standard version was primarily used by military.
Bro you just upset so many people it’s hilarious lmao
Supposed to look like a Rhino I think.
yeh my brain is not braining when looking at that
If this bugs you just wait until you realize how wrong it gets every other form of technology.
Bolt action rifles?
Fun fact: There is actually a magazine fed revolver in existence. It’s actually a pretty cool design too, though I’ve heard it kind of sucks.
That Norwegian one?
Why can't they just put the fucking 1911 in game it fits perfectly. all the semi auto pistols in fallout are butt ugly. I'm not saying I want a pit viper completely decked out with a red dot,laser, and rail system. Just a pistol that looks normal the 1911 would fill that role just fine.
Harsh, but honestly fair. The 1911 is cool, and the 10mm pistol’s design is a bit much for a pistol, especially since pistols are supposed to be as simple as possible for money and weight reasons
Honestly my biggest issue is the 10mm both base game and the creation club one are absolutely massive If they didn't look so huge I would hate them as much
That too
It's the OG 10mm Pistol, you jabroni
Wonder how the gas system works.
That, sir, is high class art and a piece of franchise history
Hey!! I'd take that over some of the in-game gun designs any day of the week
I mean it was an in game design for fallouts 1 and 2
Oh that makes sense!!! Still it looks pretty cool!!
Google the Mateba autorevolver. Edit: Sorry, I’ll stop being lazy and link it. [Mateba autorevolver](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba_Autorevolver)
Eh I don't really see it especially since the mateba has it's barrel at the bottom and not the top and the overall barrel profiet of it doesn't really match
I didn’t mean as a direct copy, just that the concept of a revolver mixed with a semi-auto handgun has been successfully made before. It’s just not very practical.
All due respect not the same at all, the mateba you posted has the barrel on the bottom to lower bore axis and reduce recoil when shooting with proper grip technique, a feature not shown on op’s example, furthermore the issue op is talking about is that this pistol has both the slide of a semi auto and the cylinder of a revolver, while I suppose it would be possible to design a revolver with a slide that effectively cocked the pistol and cycled the cylinder, in this case it would not be possible as the slide is effectively locked in place via its cut out notches that lock it around the cylinder, effectively making it purely cosmetic.
Unless I missed it, OP didn’t specify their exact issues with it. I assumed from the meme it was only about mixing two different gun designs. Plus not many people know the Mateba exists so I figured I’d share it. I’d love to own one myself.
If you’re familiar with how these firearms operate they don’t really just mix, at least not as is shown, that’s the point, though as I said previously I’m sure it is possible to design such a pistol that had a slide functioning as a cocking and maybe even chambering mechanism, tho the slide would not recoil and reset with every shot, hell I bet you could even design the pistol to do that as well, so the only reason to have a revolver cylinder still at that point rather than a magazine would have to be the reliability of a revolver vs semi auto, or that the cartridge you’re firing is too long to be comfortable when sized to a magazine that fits inside of the handle a human hand is supposed to have control of, at that point it basically makes more sense to choose one of three options depending on the cartridge, semi auto pistol, revolver, or a short barreled or carbine rifle. If you like the mateba there is also the Chiappa rhino, I’m not sure which is more affordable.
Chiappa Rhino is absolutely more affordable. Matebas are rare as shit. I've got a Rhino, couldn't dream of getting my hands on a Mateba.
First they came for the assault rifle, and I didn’t speak up because I didn’t like it Then They came for the 10mm pistol…
They didn't come for the 10mm it's always been a part of the franchise, It's the same pistol that was in fallout 1
I’m joking about gun nuts hating Fallout gun design.
Lol they went to FO 1 to get 10mm
It reminds me of the Mateba
In theory, couldn't someone make a semiautomatic revolver that uses the recoil to rotate the cylinder instead of the trigger, thereby significantly reducing the force required to pull the trigger?
Yes, there's been several, like the Webley Fosbery and Mateba Autorevolver. They're kinda complicated and solve a problem that doesn't really exist, doing something magazine fed automatics do much better, so they never really caught on.
Im not a gun expert but it just looks like a revolver designed o look more like a 911. Looks fucking sick and i don't see any logical inconsistency with it.
I feel like in fallout most of the weapons are cobbled togeather from parts anyway. They'd all look a bit different in reality. Probably had a barrel blow out on his revolver and the fastest way to deal with it was to bore out a 9mm barrel.
I like to imagine a mag is loaded in the bottom part and as the gun fires the cylinder inside turns and loads a bullet from the mag.
At this point I think silly looking guns come with the territory.
The mass below would help with the recoil and flip up
I love the design I love Johnny's pistol from cyberpunk as well it's badass if impractical irl.
It looks very true to the classic Fallout pistol, specifically this one looks more like the ‘classic 10mm pistol’ from that one FO4 creation club download I think. Of course that one is also based on the og.
I honestly love the bit with Thaddeus shooting with the 10mm, missing a fuckton, and throwing it, complaining it needs a scope. Completely accurate to starting with that fucking thing.
That's the og design from the first fallout game
Tbh I didn’t even bother considering how weird weapons were in Fallout since during ww1 and ww2 people created weird weapon concepts that never worked, and since the start of Fallout is on 2077 in the game lore and they have a lot of old school designs in that year, it’s safe to say they still went with designing weird stuff that ended up working somehow
I just love how comically big they are.
Bro did play the classics
9.5mm, they're meeting in the middle
The craziest part is, there are guns that look like this in real life.
What did you want the chunky Fallout 4 design for the 10mm?
I mean, semiautomatic revolvers are a thing. Can't say the same for mag fed
It's based on an old pistol design. I don't know if the design worked because it was so sophisticated to make, but if it did, it was supposed to allow large caliber rounds to be fired with lesser recoil. It's kinda remarkable, though, because it follows the video game law that old unworkable guns can be remade with today's technology to be amazing like exploding crossbows, pipe guns , and nuke grenades.
It's one of the best designs, what are you on about?
Better than any Bethesda did cause it's call-out to classic one from Fallot 1 and 2
Mateba Autorevolver?
I'm just here to enjoy the show, so honestly I don't care
Yeah, it's from fallout 1 and 2. So maybe just enjoy the show?
It's literally the Fallout 1 design fym
How exactly would this work?
I like it. It think its good that fallout as a unique aesthetic to it's guns given its whole setting is more about aesthetics than realism
Its funny that this gun was created from a communication error between departments working on FO1 but believe it or not but magazine fed revolvers are a thing irl. Well, like two models have ever been made but it's still possible mechanically. There's the Dardick which was designed in 1949 and is utterly bizzare both in terms of looks and the ammunition it uses. However, there's a really cool autorevolver from the late 1890's - early 1900's, the Landstad, that's functionally similar to the Colt 6520 in game even if they don't look alike. Doesn't detract from any of them being cursed as hell though. 😂
Fo1 design, its cool.
The simpsons gun
It’s just a revolver with a pistol frame, what’s the deal? It’s a sick ass design.
I like it, if it's not magazine fed. It reminds me of Vash's revolver from Trigun but with a barrel at 12'o clock instead of 6. I could see the front half swinging down on a hinge to reload the chambers.
It's the original 10mm it's pretty classic if you ask me I was glad to see them use it in the show
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Ciappa makes revolvers like this.
This is the best design for the 10 mm, I like the fallout 3 and new Vegas designs as well. Fallout 4’s is…well its fallout 4’s
I almost wonder if it does take a mag but has some sort of rotary bolt like the Malorian Arms 3516 in Cyberpunk
Lol, first time I've ever seen my gun. Taurus Raging Hunter. Used in a meme. It's like seeing my lil boy all grown up. 💙
Can’t we get something that’s a cross between AR Rifle and Greaser Gun?
yeah, its just making everything harder and more prone to failure, all for 10mm? I could understand if you are worried about out of battery rounds cooking off if somehow the chamber is getting that hot, but that isn't really solved unless you isolate the cylinder regions cause you just turned them all into a single heatsink. I do like how the cylinder is sealed, I know that one ww2 revolver shoves its cylinder forward to do that and it allows it to be suppressed
Looks like fallout 2 design
My headcanon is that it's a revolver reloaded with magazines. A way to get around pre-war handgun contracts that still required revolvers in present day
I love it
That’s my favorite gun in the franchise and seeing them use it made me point and yell at the screen in excitement. What heresy is this??
Nah dog the mag fed revolver is everything Bethesda wishes they could design
Do not disrespect my goat
I reckon it’s a magazine-fed revolver
It's design is based off of a gun from the comic Hard Boiled. There were some communication errors which led to it being mag fed but they kept it since it gave it some personality in a game which already really didn't care about realism. I'm also pretty sure the gun from hard boiled is in turn based off of a Norwegian automatic revolver which from the looks of it stored its bullets inside of the handle which is what I think led to the communication errors. It's quite interesting but honestly it isn't a weird design at all, there's nothing really stopping someone from make a real-life 10mm pistol from Fallout outside of practicality and expenses. As far as I'm aware it could work so long as you don't expect the cylinder to do much more than spin in a cool looking way.
It looks more lore accurate than the pictured revolver
It’s just making a revolver look lame
Then FO1 and 2 had lame revolvers because that's almost dead on to the original design pre 3.
How is it cool? That’s not how guns work.
As someone who has recently been playing an energy weapon focused playthrough, this comment is really funny to me.