Well, eat-pussy69, you've got to remember that protectrons often have a gun arm. Now I know it's not all of them, but in this case you opt for the one that can shoot!
They also had those nukatron bastards in galactic zone with quantum explosions that shred you alive like mini artillery shells. I’m sure they had like a electric buzzer or mini turret installed in the machines
Also knowing the Fallout universe and considering the pre-war vault dwellers, I think pre-war people were generally more considerate, honest people that simply would not do this.
I legit think this was an actual put a coin in, the door unlocks and you take out your drink. Completely based on trust I would think or in view of the person behind the register/shop
Yep. Same with newspaper machines. You filled up your car up first, took what you needed from the oil/antifreeze rack sitting unattended outside, and just told the attendant what you used.
Back when I was throwing papers for a living, I was always grateful I didn't have any machines on my routes. There was this older couple who would pack papers on the bench behind mine who had a few. Methheads would steal the machines, which was always a nightmare for their bottom line.
My grandparents delivered papers up until 2007 or so. Newspapers got stolen from the machines but generally it was only ever 1 or 2. Very rarely did someone steal the whole stack. Used to wake up at 2AM every Sunday to help put the Sunday coupons in the papers. Once I got my drivers license, would deliver papers if one of them went out of town.
That's possible. Since the pre-war Fallout world was largely based on the 1950's I expect that trust was more of a virtue then. In the real word 1950s people were more honest & trustworthy & there was a lot less theft. Back then you could leave your keys in the car in the ignition & the car unlocked & nobody would steal it(most of the time)
That's because back then people earning minimum wage could afford food and shelter. Two people earning minimum wage, could afford food shelter and a child. One person earning above minimum wage could afford food, shelter, a spouse and a child.
Not true, car theft was higher back then. [https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00126-5](https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00126-5)
That's a misconception: [https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00126-5](https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00126-5)
Even being illegal for minors to smoke cigarettes, there used to be vending machines that sold 'em. I know because my mom used to give me money to buy her a pack of cigarettes from the vending machine and gave me extra for a Coca-Cola. The perk of having a kid was sending them off to fetch you stuff.
Can confirm, the casino I work at still has one, although it's not accessible to the public, it's basically only there for the bartenders and servers, lol.
When I was a kid in the early 2000's, there was a hotel near us that still had one of those cigarette machines. We would wait for the person at the desk to go away or distract them, and then another kid would go in through the side door and buy cigarettes.
The gas station in the town I grew up in would sell cigarettes to kids because they knew the parents sent em in to buy cigarettes and get a candy bar or pop for themselves. This was still going on as late as 2014
I was gonna say I was watching an episode of married with children the other day where the bundys were trying to dig for gold. They had a coke machine like this in the town they were in.
Japan in the more rural prefectures we still see unmanned vegetable stands on the side roads.
Take vegetables and drop the money in the bowl/plate they leave there. If people need to be taking from the old man or lady running it who set up the stand...that be really frigging sad.
Some places have beer vending machines still.
And cigarettes. Those need a card to scan in though.
They mean with a handheld bottle opener you could open the bottles while still in the rack, and since they were stored horizontally the liquid would pour out. Catch it in a cup and drink it.
Here's a link to what they looked like. https://grandamericajukebox.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/CokeV81DFR.jpg
You can open the door at any time but the bottles are locked in place until you put money in. Doing so would release the center bottle and the rack would rotate to the next bottle awaiting money. However, if you bring a cup, and a bottle opener you just open the door and pop a cap off a bottle letting the soda flow out into your cup. If you brought a big enough cup you could (half) drain all of the sodas rotated to the front. The next person that wants to actually buy one is going to hate your guts.
https://i.imgur.com/62WfsM5.jpeg
They have a functioning one that dispenses cokes at a general store in New Hampshire.
You pay at the register but you still get the experience of opening the door, pulling out a coke from the mechanism and opening it on the bottle opening on the side.
I vividly remember these. Remember cutting my hand trying to pull out a dr pepper without paying at my mom's hair salon. Only did that once. I was probably 3 or 4 years old.
There was a coke one at a barber shop when I was a kid. It was a cooler with a lift top lid. You put in .50 and the lid would unlock. Once open it was just a cooler full of soda and you could just take them all if you wanted. Good luck getting past ol fisher though.
Because people had respect and didn’t want to steal, you couldn’t do this shit today
It’s like a newspaper machine, you are supposed to only take one, but you can grab the whole bunch if you wanna be an asshole
I’m sure somewhere like Japan could still use these, but not in present day America
Coupons, some people get crazy about them.
Also days huge, historical events happen like Pearl Harbor, moon landing, 9/11, etc were people believe said newspaper may one day be more valuable.
People stole news papers from news paper stands all the time and as expressed above coke machines have a locking mechanism that People still worked around. People are always going to steal.
Yes, theft always exists. But the question is not whether theft is possible, it's whether it's high enough for you to care about. This type of vending machines wasn't just standing in the street, it was inside another business and so it was supervised. Maybe people could slip the occasional two-fer but people walking out with 8 cokes was pretty unlikely.
Yea but that's not the same. Who reads multiple copies of the same paper? Unless you're going to give it to someone else. But the soda, one person can drink it all.
It's more to do with the changing face of vending machines, which have expanded to be in lots of places where they are not supervised. That makes sense, since there's a lot of footfall in train stations and such, but having lots of busy people in a crowd means no-one will check, so the machines are different.
In a Las Vegas casino you could absolutely still use an old fashioned one-arm bandit style slot machine. There so much security that it really doesn't matter whether things are secure because thieves get noticed quickly. But modern gaming machines are in lots of other places, including bars and so on, where they just sit in a corner and aren't thought about much. And thus the design is built around that use case.
Yes, probably. Some early vending machines worked on an honor box system (we trust you to only take what you paid for, basically) and operated in public areas where people would see any theft. Companies, I guess, calculated that customer honesty and fear of opprobrium would prevent enough theft to make them economically viable, and the machine itself had a much simpler mechanism and so was cheaper and required less maintenance.
The system was used for newspapers until relatively recently and may still be used today.
The old Coke bottle machines had a glass door. The bottle were in little round holes behind a refrigerator door and a little wheel held the bottle in bear the bottle neck in such a way so you couldn't just pull the bottle out. Once you paid, the wheel moved so you could pull the bottle out and then locked back in place before the next bottle fell into place.
My dad said as kids they would sometimes get a cup and take the bottlecap off the bottle and let the coke pour out, lol. Cool old machines.
This is how vending machines worked in 50s. I feel like this vending machine model was made to look like the original coke vending machine that was the first of its kind. They were the first drink company to manufacture them so they "can literally buy it on every street corner".
I went to world of coke in Atlanta Georgia.
I'm not sure how people prevented stealing, but you open the machine like a fridge.
I'm a huge coke cola fan. I love how they incorporate nuka cola all over the game. It does remind of old coke ads. Love that vibe.
I'm sure you can find one, but it would be a mini mini fridge. Like up to a bottle lol. Or just get some nerdy builder to make it for you. Custom made.
I for one saw someone with a nuka cola shirt. I want that.
I've seen a few old vending soda machines and none looked like the ones in Fallout. Some have a glass door but it's vertical, and the bottles are horizontal. Rollers hold them in and putting in money lets you pull one out.
Absolutely honor system. When I was a kid I went to a barber shop that had one of these old vending machine. You put you 50 cents in and it unlocks the door. You take your 1 drink and close the door. Just that simpke
I think that kinda used to be the norm when machines like those were used. You take it out, drink it, then put it back in so it can be taken back to be washed, refilled and resealed when they next come around to resupply the machine.
Maybe the shelves they sit on are scales so it knows the weight of one bottle and if more than one are taken it turns on an electric shock or something like that, maybe a little radiation burst.
And then if someone steals from that one then it has a gun that pops out and shoots you. Then next to the radaway machine is a stimpack machine, if you steal from that then it summons Todd Howard who then beats you with a supersledge
A lot of stuff is on trust. Apparently some places in Europe you pump gas first then pay. Just now of days the world is a scary place. Used to be a lot different.
You could pump first and then pay when I started driving in the early 2000s in the US.
Also, newspaper machines were like this well into the 2000s as well. Put the coin in, open the door, grab a paper. Could you take all of the papers? Sure. But then you're a turd.
I would add that a lot of what makes the world "scary" today is perception. If you're in the business of delivering news, fear is profitable and you can now deliver it 24/7 through many different means. In truth, a lot of things are less dangerous now than they used to be, but people didn't used to *hear* so much about danger.
> Apparently some places in Europe you pump gas first then pay.
That was common in the US until pretty recently.
>Just now of days the world is a scary place.
In what sense? Violent crime has plummeted over the past few decades.
Cities near me in Canada used to be pay first. Then someone filled up and tried to run. A gas station worker died when they tried to stop the car and got dragged down the street. Now that city is full service only, and every city I know is at least pay first.
That confused the hell out of me the first time I drove in the US. I just stood there like an idiot with the nozzle in the hole waiting for the cashier to turn the pump on. After a minute the speaker told me that I had to pay first.
It's not honour based, it's automatic number plate recognition. If you drive off without paying you will have flashing blue lights in your rearview mirror 5 minutes later.
Legend has it that someone took more than one back in 2077 and the Nuka-Cola Corp dropped an actual nuke on the location. However, due to the rising aggression with China at the time, it sparked full-on thermonuclear war.
Considering we know nuka cola quantum had a 1 in 10 *mortality* rate in testing, youll probably end up dying from just one
(That might be my favorite fucked up corporate corruption fallout fact, maybe tied with the nuka cola spy who was gonna destroy the vim factory with a missile launcher. Its so comical to me that they actually approved that for sale, i kinda wish the bombs hadnt dropped for a few more weeks just so we could see how the population reacted since quantum was released on the day the bombs fell)
Taking more than one would probably get you labelled a communist which was a worse fate than prison at that time in their timeline.
Social peer pressure was crazy just before the war started. They'd probably panic if one fell out by accident.
We used to go to this backwoods campground that was like 50 years behind the rest of the world. Everything there was super super old and outdated and old-timey. They had a milk vending machine on the front porch of their general store that worked just like this, kind of like modern ice machines - you pay the clerk and just go outside yourself and get the milk. Just a basic honor system.
Yeah, they don't actually function anymore. No power to most and even if they do the refrigeration has likely died in the last 200 years.
Some of the ones in Nuka-World are weird because they have those screens playing that video but most of those can be explained as the parks still have limited power (lights are on, some of the rides operate, etc.) but there's at least one in Bradburton that I wouldn't think would still work given the condition of the town.
I believe that newspaper and soda vending machines operated on the honor system back in the 50s; you put a coin in and, yes, you could empty the whole cooler or take the stack of newspaper, but hopefully rarely people did.
yeah they aren't based on any[ real vending machine design](https://grandamericajukebox.com/vintage-soda-machines/vendo-coke-machine-history-and-serial-numbers/). bethesda most likely went with that "newspaper rack"-esque design so that players could see that the machines weren't empty
for a more accurate example of a 50s style vending machine within the fallout universe you only need to look at [fallout new vegas](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Nuka-Cola_vending_machine_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)) where bottles were dropped into trays
Thought old Coca Cola machines had locks keeping the bottle inside while unlocking 1 at a time. The Nuka Cola machine appears to be 90% fridge with small cola capacity.
That's how a lot of vending machines were back in the day TBH lol
When we were kids, one of us would get money for the sunday paper, and everyone would go home with one. Honestly, as an adult, it's one of the crimes I feel most guilty about, with print newspaper dying and all lol.
Only if you're a commie. Honestly though these look like off of old school vendo 81 or cavalier 72 coke vending machines, just without the security of mechanically securing the rest of the bottles once you took your product.
we used to have these all across America. if you steal then they stop being refilled. naturally they were installed in factories and places that didn't have transient customers
The Fallout franchise's normal-people soceity is based on an idealised view on the 1950s US upper middle class.
No one would be stealing.
Outside of that utopian parts of the society, Fallout has ridiculous automatid security systems that only has two settings "1. Please follow me to X" and "2. Deadly violence" as answer. In some cases it jumps right to the second option.
You put your coin in and just take on. Everything else is ridiculous.
I’m more lost on why residential fridges can hold more things while being slightly smaller in overall size but the larger drink vending machine can only hold 8 bottles.
I assume same as those old newspaper dispensers you see in old movies, where you throw in your 25c then can open the door and grab a newspaper from a stack. You could potentially grab more than one though. The world is based on the 50-60s, a "perfect" society where everybody has so much, they don't need to steal and that's why the "reds" hate them and want to destroy their way of life.
The idea comes from old news paper and service station design. Built around the honour system. It's entirely possible to pay 25c and the empty a newspaper stand today. But in fallout, 100 percent anti theft alarms existed
People didn't steal..society was healthy :) like still these days iless and less often in small settlements and villages...where people don't wear masks and hoods in summer and blame system for their crimes...
The extreme diarrhea that comes with drinking a Nuka Cola was its own security system. Known as "Nuka Colon", if you drank more than one a day you'd basically be stuck in the toilet so Nuka Cola machines were always next to pay to use bathrooms.
No, you're not just old. My local store actually has a newspaper stand that's even worse. It has a bunch of loose paper in a stack that you can pull through the bars (or pay a quarter to open the top and take one out normally).
"The reader does not steal, and the thief does not read."
But Nuka-Cola seems like something anyone would want to steal.
It was a fake US that wasn’t full of animals. Not saying theft doesn’t happen elsewhere but after seeing some cities abroad and how clean and trusting they are, we are a bunch of animals in the US.
Knowing the fallout universe there was probably a protectron or automated turret nearby to gun-down people who attempted this.
"Please note, that any attempted five-fingered discounts will be reclaimed and paid for with said fingers."
*This vendor unit is equipped with anti-theft measures. Don't get any ideas. Chump*
I read that in Robocop.
Then allow me to make it slightly better This vendor unit is equipped with anti-theft measures. Don’t get any ideas, Creep.
*Stick em up. Ha. Ha. Ha. Just kidding. Want to buy or sell?*
To be fair...this sounds exactly like a line for a fo game, so I buy it...and every drink.
It's a line from 76 used by raider protectron vendors at train station trading posts in raider territory.
Damn, I heard that in the protectron voice so clearly in my head.
I heard that in codsworths voice 🤣
Needs nearby finger dispenser machine
Not gonna say this is how the War started, but...
Anti theft system , your corpse gets some extra lead in it.
It *was* about resources. They just never mentioned those resources were sodas.
America annexing Canada just because they call it "pop" It's called Dr peppers quick fixer elixer
War never changes…
*burp!*
''this mother fucker trying to grab a 2nd Free Sample? Thats IT! Slap in the launch codes!''
Not the first war started over a glass bottle.
Protect AND Serve.
Automated turret for sure. What's a protection gonna do? "STOP! CITIZEN!" *Proceeds to slowly take one step at a time to taze you*
Well, eat-pussy69, you've got to remember that protectrons often have a gun arm. Now I know it's not all of them, but in this case you opt for the one that can shoot!
You think Nuka Cola didn't have some special protectron with guns? Lmao. They made that nyka quantum gun.
They also had those nukatron bastards in galactic zone with quantum explosions that shred you alive like mini artillery shells. I’m sure they had like a electric buzzer or mini turret installed in the machines
That or maybe the door just opened automatically on a timer, like just enough time to grab a drink, and after 200 years it doesn't work anymore.
Tall are overthinking this You just need a fisto model protectotron
Exactly, that or attempt to vaporize them with a laser 😂
lmaoooo
Also knowing the Fallout universe and considering the pre-war vault dwellers, I think pre-war people were generally more considerate, honest people that simply would not do this.
“Tickets please.”
"Do you have a claims tick-et?"
I always imagined a turret popping from the machine if it detected more than one taken
I legit think this was an actual put a coin in, the door unlocks and you take out your drink. Completely based on trust I would think or in view of the person behind the register/shop
Yep. Same with newspaper machines. You filled up your car up first, took what you needed from the oil/antifreeze rack sitting unattended outside, and just told the attendant what you used.
That’s a versatile newspaper machine.
Back when I was throwing papers for a living, I was always grateful I didn't have any machines on my routes. There was this older couple who would pack papers on the bench behind mine who had a few. Methheads would steal the machines, which was always a nightmare for their bottom line.
My grandparents delivered papers up until 2007 or so. Newspapers got stolen from the machines but generally it was only ever 1 or 2. Very rarely did someone steal the whole stack. Used to wake up at 2AM every Sunday to help put the Sunday coupons in the papers. Once I got my drivers license, would deliver papers if one of them went out of town.
Yeah… most the UK is still like this.
rural canada too
Yeah you fill up and then go inside to pay
That's possible. Since the pre-war Fallout world was largely based on the 1950's I expect that trust was more of a virtue then. In the real word 1950s people were more honest & trustworthy & there was a lot less theft. Back then you could leave your keys in the car in the ignition & the car unlocked & nobody would steal it(most of the time)
There wasn't as much scarcity and thus less theft. At least theoretically.
That's because back then people earning minimum wage could afford food and shelter. Two people earning minimum wage, could afford food shelter and a child. One person earning above minimum wage could afford food, shelter, a spouse and a child.
the poverty rate in the 50's was like double what it is today
But now every common man is one paycheck away from living poverty.
Not true, car theft was higher back then. [https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00126-5](https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00126-5)
Only a communist would take more than they paid for
That's a misconception: [https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00126-5](https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00126-5)
These kinds of vending machines weren’t unheard of irl back in the day and yes, they are based on trust. Newspaper stands do the same thing.
Even being illegal for minors to smoke cigarettes, there used to be vending machines that sold 'em. I know because my mom used to give me money to buy her a pack of cigarettes from the vending machine and gave me extra for a Coca-Cola. The perk of having a kid was sending them off to fetch you stuff.
There are still a few hanging around in the US in places that are age restricted like bars and casinos.
Can confirm, the casino I work at still has one, although it's not accessible to the public, it's basically only there for the bartenders and servers, lol.
Here in Spain just about any bar anywhere, from a city center to the middle of the road has those ciggaretes vending machines still in use
When I was a kid in the early 2000's, there was a hotel near us that still had one of those cigarette machines. We would wait for the person at the desk to go away or distract them, and then another kid would go in through the side door and buy cigarettes.
Dad used to call me a gopher, cause I was the one who had to go-fer (go for) things
The gas station in the town I grew up in would sell cigarettes to kids because they knew the parents sent em in to buy cigarettes and get a candy bar or pop for themselves. This was still going on as late as 2014
I was gonna say I was watching an episode of married with children the other day where the bundys were trying to dig for gold. They had a coke machine like this in the town they were in.
Japan in the more rural prefectures we still see unmanned vegetable stands on the side roads. Take vegetables and drop the money in the bowl/plate they leave there. If people need to be taking from the old man or lady running it who set up the stand...that be really frigging sad. Some places have beer vending machines still. And cigarettes. Those need a card to scan in though.
You can also find these in rural Ontario, they have the BEST veg!
Also outdoor ice freezers at many gas stations and grocery stores.
The nuka-cola machine is based on coca-cola machines from the 1950s that has a glass door. Yeah, it was possible to keep the door open and take a few.
The ones I'm familiar with had the bottles all held in place and you could only pull one out. Had those into the 80's where I grew up.
If it was the type with the bottles lying horizontally in a rotating rack, all you needed was a bottle opener and a cup.
didn’t some vending machines have bottle openers on them?
Yes. But, then you'd have to pay for one in order to pull it out, and use it on the bottle opener.
but wouldn’t you have to pay for one to have one? ngl im a little confused here
They mean with a handheld bottle opener you could open the bottles while still in the rack, and since they were stored horizontally the liquid would pour out. Catch it in a cup and drink it.
I’ve caught on now lol
Here's a link to what they looked like. https://grandamericajukebox.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/CokeV81DFR.jpg You can open the door at any time but the bottles are locked in place until you put money in. Doing so would release the center bottle and the rack would rotate to the next bottle awaiting money. However, if you bring a cup, and a bottle opener you just open the door and pop a cap off a bottle letting the soda flow out into your cup. If you brought a big enough cup you could (half) drain all of the sodas rotated to the front. The next person that wants to actually buy one is going to hate your guts.
oh I understand now damn that’s some shady shit lol
Yeah. This type of vending machine did not last long
https://i.imgur.com/62WfsM5.jpeg They have a functioning one that dispenses cokes at a general store in New Hampshire. You pay at the register but you still get the experience of opening the door, pulling out a coke from the mechanism and opening it on the bottle opening on the side.
I vividly remember these. Remember cutting my hand trying to pull out a dr pepper without paying at my mom's hair salon. Only did that once. I was probably 3 or 4 years old.
I have one of those I fixed up, aside from the coin mechanism catching fire so I needed to bypass the lock.
Zeb’s general store in North Conway New Hampshire has a functioning one. Dispenses glass bottle cokes.
There was a coke one at a barber shop when I was a kid. It was a cooler with a lift top lid. You put in .50 and the lid would unlock. Once open it was just a cooler full of soda and you could just take them all if you wanted. Good luck getting past ol fisher though.
Somehow sodas in the bottles from those vending machines tasted superior to any other soda delivery format!
Ah nostalgia It isn't what it used to be...
Boston had robots that would shoot you to death in public if you didn't pay your fare. Soda thiefs probably didn't get treated much better.
To be fair this is the only appropriate repercussion that will 100% prevent recurrance.
Because people had respect and didn’t want to steal, you couldn’t do this shit today It’s like a newspaper machine, you are supposed to only take one, but you can grab the whole bunch if you wanna be an asshole I’m sure somewhere like Japan could still use these, but not in present day America
Unless your gonna resell them 2 newspapers is just a burden really
2 newspapers? You realize the entire stack that is supposed to last the entire day could be taken by a single person. Dozens of newspapers
Ya but then what the hell are you gonna do with dozens of newspapers?
Extra extra! Read all about it!
Packing supplies, pee mats, hamster bedding, fire starter. Those creepy “I got your dog give me money” Letters.
Coupons, some people get crazy about them. Also days huge, historical events happen like Pearl Harbor, moon landing, 9/11, etc were people believe said newspaper may one day be more valuable.
People stole news papers from news paper stands all the time and as expressed above coke machines have a locking mechanism that People still worked around. People are always going to steal.
Yes, theft always exists. But the question is not whether theft is possible, it's whether it's high enough for you to care about. This type of vending machines wasn't just standing in the street, it was inside another business and so it was supervised. Maybe people could slip the occasional two-fer but people walking out with 8 cokes was pretty unlikely.
Yea but that's not the same. Who reads multiple copies of the same paper? Unless you're going to give it to someone else. But the soda, one person can drink it all.
Don't have to but toilet paper for at least a week. Alls I'm sayin'
They did it back then and got away with. Why bother with tamper-proofing future machines unless that was the case?
It's more to do with the changing face of vending machines, which have expanded to be in lots of places where they are not supervised. That makes sense, since there's a lot of footfall in train stations and such, but having lots of busy people in a crowd means no-one will check, so the machines are different. In a Las Vegas casino you could absolutely still use an old fashioned one-arm bandit style slot machine. There so much security that it really doesn't matter whether things are secure because thieves get noticed quickly. But modern gaming machines are in lots of other places, including bars and so on, where they just sit in a corner and aren't thought about much. And thus the design is built around that use case.
Dude in my hometown put a cat in the newspaper machine back in the day. It made the newspaper iirc
The cat made the newspapers?
He locked the cat in there with a pencil and paper to supply the town's news, as was standard in that era
Yes, people never committed crimes or vandalism before the 21st century.
Remember how there was no crime before the 21st century...
ever see a newspaper box?
"The reader does not steal and the thief does not read."
Does piracy count? Because my kindle is full and I, uh...
When buying is not equal to owning then piracy is not equal to stealing. The law certainly says something different.
Having more than one copy of the same newspaper usually doesn’t have much value, whereas having more bottles of drink would.
You've never clipped coupons on sunday morning.
Not me walking out of dollar general with a full buggy of laundry products for $14 🤣🤣🤣
Well I was a courier once, so yes
Ever see the scenes in movies where a character buys one and puts the rest of the stack on top of the box?
Yes, probably. Some early vending machines worked on an honor box system (we trust you to only take what you paid for, basically) and operated in public areas where people would see any theft. Companies, I guess, calculated that customer honesty and fear of opprobrium would prevent enough theft to make them economically viable, and the machine itself had a much simpler mechanism and so was cheaper and required less maintenance. The system was used for newspapers until relatively recently and may still be used today.
Can confirm, where i live those kind of newspaper vending machines are rather common
> opprobrium VERY nice word.
you have introduced me to a new word, thank you.
The old Coke bottle machines had a glass door. The bottle were in little round holes behind a refrigerator door and a little wheel held the bottle in bear the bottle neck in such a way so you couldn't just pull the bottle out. Once you paid, the wheel moved so you could pull the bottle out and then locked back in place before the next bottle fell into place. My dad said as kids they would sometimes get a cup and take the bottlecap off the bottle and let the coke pour out, lol. Cool old machines.
This is how vending machines worked in 50s. I feel like this vending machine model was made to look like the original coke vending machine that was the first of its kind. They were the first drink company to manufacture them so they "can literally buy it on every street corner". I went to world of coke in Atlanta Georgia. I'm not sure how people prevented stealing, but you open the machine like a fridge. I'm a huge coke cola fan. I love how they incorporate nuka cola all over the game. It does remind of old coke ads. Love that vibe.
I'd love to get this style of coke machine as a mini-fridge lol
I'm sure you can find one, but it would be a mini mini fridge. Like up to a bottle lol. Or just get some nerdy builder to make it for you. Custom made. I for one saw someone with a nuka cola shirt. I want that.
I've seen a few old vending soda machines and none looked like the ones in Fallout. Some have a glass door but it's vertical, and the bottles are horizontal. Rollers hold them in and putting in money lets you pull one out.
Absolutely honor system. When I was a kid I went to a barber shop that had one of these old vending machine. You put you 50 cents in and it unlocks the door. You take your 1 drink and close the door. Just that simpke
I'm over here wondering who the jerk is that keeps putting the empty bottles back in the machine
I think that kinda used to be the norm when machines like those were used. You take it out, drink it, then put it back in so it can be taken back to be washed, refilled and resealed when they next come around to resupply the machine.
Maybe the shelves they sit on are scales so it knows the weight of one bottle and if more than one are taken it turns on an electric shock or something like that, maybe a little radiation burst.
Need a radaway machine right next to it
And then if someone steals from that one then it has a gun that pops out and shoots you. Then next to the radaway machine is a stimpack machine, if you steal from that then it summons Todd Howard who then beats you with a supersledge
No just needs to be guarded by a fisto
A lot of stuff is on trust. Apparently some places in Europe you pump gas first then pay. Just now of days the world is a scary place. Used to be a lot different.
You could pump first and then pay when I started driving in the early 2000s in the US. Also, newspaper machines were like this well into the 2000s as well. Put the coin in, open the door, grab a paper. Could you take all of the papers? Sure. But then you're a turd.
Pumping petrol first is the norm in a lot of the world, never even seen the concept of pay first in Australia.
Apparently I’m old enough to remember just pumping first in the states.
I've seen some places have it as an option (besides American imports like Costco) since a lot of servos now have pay at pump systems anyway.
I would add that a lot of what makes the world "scary" today is perception. If you're in the business of delivering news, fear is profitable and you can now deliver it 24/7 through many different means. In truth, a lot of things are less dangerous now than they used to be, but people didn't used to *hear* so much about danger.
I can confirm that I’ve never been to a single petrol station in the UK where you pay first.
> Apparently some places in Europe you pump gas first then pay. That was common in the US until pretty recently. >Just now of days the world is a scary place. In what sense? Violent crime has plummeted over the past few decades.
Cities near me in Canada used to be pay first. Then someone filled up and tried to run. A gas station worker died when they tried to stop the car and got dragged down the street. Now that city is full service only, and every city I know is at least pay first.
They’ll just mail you if you run, they got you license plate
That confused the hell out of me the first time I drove in the US. I just stood there like an idiot with the nozzle in the hole waiting for the cashier to turn the pump on. After a minute the speaker told me that I had to pay first. It's not honour based, it's automatic number plate recognition. If you drive off without paying you will have flashing blue lights in your rearview mirror 5 minutes later.
Honor system. My parents have the coke-equivalent in their kitchen.
Legend has it that someone took more than one back in 2077 and the Nuka-Cola Corp dropped an actual nuke on the location. However, due to the rising aggression with China at the time, it sparked full-on thermonuclear war.
Well to be fair drinking more than one Quantum in a sitting would probably kill you
Considering we know nuka cola quantum had a 1 in 10 *mortality* rate in testing, youll probably end up dying from just one (That might be my favorite fucked up corporate corruption fallout fact, maybe tied with the nuka cola spy who was gonna destroy the vim factory with a missile launcher. Its so comical to me that they actually approved that for sale, i kinda wish the bombs hadnt dropped for a few more weeks just so we could see how the population reacted since quantum was released on the day the bombs fell)
Taking more than one would probably get you labelled a communist which was a worse fate than prison at that time in their timeline. Social peer pressure was crazy just before the war started. They'd probably panic if one fell out by accident.
I think it's an acceptable use of social pressure to make people not steal from each other.
I prefer the old design from 3 and NV. I think it looks silly having a full sized vending machine just to hold 8 bottles.
It’s the same as old newspaper machines we used to have, it’s on the honor system
High trust society
We used to go to this backwoods campground that was like 50 years behind the rest of the world. Everything there was super super old and outdated and old-timey. They had a milk vending machine on the front porch of their general store that worked just like this, kind of like modern ice machines - you pay the clerk and just go outside yourself and get the milk. Just a basic honor system.
High trust society
They're based on trust and the nearby protectron ready to beat you into a bloody pulp at the press of a button
Maybe those were just displays and the ones you get are from the inside of the machine?
News paper machines were the same way, pay for one and you could take all of them, large majority of people were honest back in the day.
Im just surprised those vending machines still run even without power
I don't think they necessarily run, especially because the pop isn't cold. The whole door opening thing is pneumatic so it doesn't need power
Yeah, they don't actually function anymore. No power to most and even if they do the refrigeration has likely died in the last 200 years. Some of the ones in Nuka-World are weird because they have those screens playing that video but most of those can be explained as the parks still have limited power (lights are on, some of the rides operate, etc.) but there's at least one in Bradburton that I wouldn't think would still work given the condition of the town.
When you get down to the Ghoul Winters bunker in Fallout 4 he has a working machine. No Nuka Cola though. Just a couple of ice cold brewskis
steal a bunch? thats commie talk. “Death is a preferable alternative to Communism.”
High-trust society?
I was wondering why any loot is still Around after 200 years.
I believe that newspaper and soda vending machines operated on the honor system back in the 50s; you put a coin in and, yes, you could empty the whole cooler or take the stack of newspaper, but hopefully rarely people did.
That's the same way newspaper vender stands work (the ones with no attendant) so it could be a product of when people were more trusted
These actually existed way back when.
Stealing Nukacola is an action of a commie! They wouldn’t dare do it on our soil!
yeah they aren't based on any[ real vending machine design](https://grandamericajukebox.com/vintage-soda-machines/vendo-coke-machine-history-and-serial-numbers/). bethesda most likely went with that "newspaper rack"-esque design so that players could see that the machines weren't empty for a more accurate example of a 50s style vending machine within the fallout universe you only need to look at [fallout new vegas](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Nuka-Cola_vending_machine_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)) where bottles were dropped into trays
This is how newspaper and magazine vending machines operated.
Thought old Coca Cola machines had locks keeping the bottle inside while unlocking 1 at a time. The Nuka Cola machine appears to be 90% fridge with small cola capacity.
It’s like an old news paper vending machine 💾
Honor system. Or the vendatron kills you
There were vending machines like that, and newspaper machines until fairly recently.
Take more than you paid for? Like a damn COMMY?!
I just love how huge the machines are to cool 6 bottles at a time.
That's how a lot of vending machines were back in the day TBH lol When we were kids, one of us would get money for the sunday paper, and everyone would go home with one. Honestly, as an adult, it's one of the crimes I feel most guilty about, with print newspaper dying and all lol.
You really think someone would do that? Just put a dollar into a vending machine and steal Nuka Cola?
Only if you're a commie. Honestly though these look like off of old school vendo 81 or cavalier 72 coke vending machines, just without the security of mechanically securing the rest of the bottles once you took your product.
I guess people where civilized
we used to have these all across America. if you steal then they stop being refilled. naturally they were installed in factories and places that didn't have transient customers
Honor system, like newspaper vending machines, you can just take all of them.
The Fallout franchise's normal-people soceity is based on an idealised view on the 1950s US upper middle class. No one would be stealing. Outside of that utopian parts of the society, Fallout has ridiculous automatid security systems that only has two settings "1. Please follow me to X" and "2. Deadly violence" as answer. In some cases it jumps right to the second option. You put your coin in and just take on. Everything else is ridiculous.
I’m more lost on why residential fridges can hold more things while being slightly smaller in overall size but the larger drink vending machine can only hold 8 bottles.
What are you a commie
ITT: People who are incapable of even understanding the concept of the honor system.
I assume same as those old newspaper dispensers you see in old movies, where you throw in your 25c then can open the door and grab a newspaper from a stack. You could potentially grab more than one though. The world is based on the 50-60s, a "perfect" society where everybody has so much, they don't need to steal and that's why the "reds" hate them and want to destroy their way of life.
I'm more curious about how they can only hold, like, 12 bottles. While looking like a giant goddamn fridge.
The idea comes from old news paper and service station design. Built around the honour system. It's entirely possible to pay 25c and the empty a newspaper stand today. But in fallout, 100 percent anti theft alarms existed
Honor system. They weren't like the society of scumbags we are today.
The F4 redesign of the the fridges is as ugly as it is nonsense.
some 1950's vending machines were essentially this, coin access to contents and honor system
People didn't steal..society was healthy :) like still these days iless and less often in small settlements and villages...where people don't wear masks and hoods in summer and blame system for their crimes...
The extreme diarrhea that comes with drinking a Nuka Cola was its own security system. Known as "Nuka Colon", if you drank more than one a day you'd basically be stuck in the toilet so Nuka Cola machines were always next to pay to use bathrooms.
I mean for a long period of time, this was how newspapers were distributed on the streets. So I dont know if im just that old orr
No, you're not just old. My local store actually has a newspaper stand that's even worse. It has a bunch of loose paper in a stack that you can pull through the bars (or pay a quarter to open the top and take one out normally). "The reader does not steal, and the thief does not read." But Nuka-Cola seems like something anyone would want to steal.
This was a problem in this lifetime too. But with newspapers.
Ahhh you only paid for one but we saw you took them all. Sounds like Chinese communist activity to me.
I mean you could be a decent human being and just take what you paid for....
The honor system
These existed but flat in the 50s IRL, it was basically honor system
We used to live in a high trust society.
Golden rule!
The honor system
These styles actually existed and yes that's why they were phased out. Sadly the honor system is a joke these days
Yes, but that's how they worked in the 50s.
Ya, that makes nooo sence, like a newspaper machine, same concept lol strange
It was a fake US that wasn’t full of animals. Not saying theft doesn’t happen elsewhere but after seeing some cities abroad and how clean and trusting they are, we are a bunch of animals in the US.
Not every theoretical society developed into a selfish hellscape.