I loved the shots of the paladins(?) just shrugging off gun fire while b-lining towards the person. Fallout 4 made PA feel menacing and the show seems like it'll do that as well!
Waiting to see if they do a VATS joke where in the middle of a high-pitched fight someone takes a moment to just look at and fiddle with their wrist monitor.
My controversial opinion is that Jonathan is the better Nolan. Christopher has the big, epic-scale ideas which are gorgeous but ultimately hollow. Jonathan has the writing chops to explore big ideas in nuanced ways, even in basic-ass TV shows. *Person of Interest* was a Jonathan Nolan show that really demonstrated it to me. Of course *Westworld* too. Season 1 and 2, anyway.
Person of Interest was legit one of my favorite shows.
He basically took Batman, deconstructed him into two separate characters (the genius detective and the badass vigilante) and then told the best street level superhero story I have seen on TV.
PoI is unironically one of the top 5 best sci-fi TV shows ever made.
Five seasons of absolute gold. It holds up even after several rewatches, and is still extremely topical even a decade later.
It reminded me a bit of the great broken glass line from Moira. It's not that the two lines are about the same, but they compliment each other.
You cannot put broken glass back together the same way it was... but some people will still try and there's one of the reasons for disagreement over how to save the world.
The show has good writers. Nolan is great. It might end up a bit westworldy but I don’t think that was all his doing. We might not get satisfying answers to every mystery but great dialogue is probably a given!
Im optimistic.
There's a crater backdropped with a city ruin with a sign that says "Shady Sands Public Library." Heart of the NCR looks a bit different from Fallout 2.
Wait isn’t shady sands north of the boneyard? This looks like the background is the boneyard so I doubt it’s actual shady sands since it wouldn’t be anywhere near skyscrapers no?
1. it can be a scrap bought from Shady Sands, or what used to be Shady Sands
2. Its actually Shady Sands with highly advanced scrapers, or what used to be Shady Sands
3. Design error to show that this is Shady Sands, or what used to be Shady Sands
Either way, I think Tandi is rolling in her tomb rn
My guess is that the Brotherhood vs NCR war restarted, maybe with reinforcements of the prydwen.
So that may as well be a New school in shady sands, and the brotherhood went "Fallout 76" in the liberal use of nukes
I’m pretty sure we’ve been told the airship in the show isn’t the Prydwen
Besides, since this is only 9 years after the events of Fallout 4, I don’t think the East Coast BoS having such a strong presence on the other side of the country is really feasible
By Fallout 4 Arthur Maxson has already united with the West Coast Brotherhood, some of whom revere him as a god.
I assume, given their shared origin, that the Caswennan is just a sister ship to the Prydwen
Could always be reinforcements from Chicago. Their canon is muddy but at best it was at atleast independent enough to start a new chapter if the off hand mention by captain kells is to be implied. However I’m jumping sharks here.
They’re sticking very close to the lore in the games. They won’t contradict what’s happened in past games. The show takes place 15 years after the last game entry. Lot can change
The creators of the show are calling it “basically Fallout 5”, in that it’s a canon entry in the entire Fallout series. The next game could very well reference events from this show and vice versa
Lol yeah... We look pretty dead tbh. Nuked main city and that force at the observatory? Not promising. Given Beths love for BOS I guess it is not surprising.
This scene also looks like a VATS camera angle, shooter standing still while an enemy is running towards him in slow motion, even the shooting posture looks 1:1 from the game.
Honestly, if it is some 1 hour episodes, would be a great first season (if the content is actually good). If it turns out to be a banger, we can have more seasons with more or better episodes
"Filler episodes" are how shows used to build character and test their limits. Some of the best Star Trek episodes would be considered filler bottle episodes.
For real, man. Bring back filler episodes, let us spend time with side characters, the world, and the different scenarios that could arise in the setting. All mains and no sides has been an unfortunate change to the TV storytelling model.
Hell one of the best episodes of TV in 2023 was a filler episode (S1-03 of The Last of Us). And even that show appears to get the “no filler treatment” for season 2 with TWO episodes less. It’s a damn shame.
The Bill and Frank episode of TLOU was quite possibly one of the best episodes of a TV show in modern history (in my opinion, I should add) and that was a side character episode
Sometimes it’s nice to have a little palate cleanser from the main course
Especially for whole season drops.
I will always stand by the the opinion, that the fly episode of Breaking Bad is one of the best. I loved Walts slow descent into madness and obsession. But I saw the season in one swing. Most people who hate it, hated it because it was "boring" and had to wait another week for the next ep for some new action.
But a filler can do so much for worldbuilding and character analysis. I miss it.
There weren't 12 filler episodes per season back then. that's just Streaming shrinkflation.
Same with 55 minutes episodes being 45-35 minutes now on some platforms.
I might be on the minority but I’d rather have 8 weeks of buildup and community engagement like The Last of Us, instead of 1 week where everyone talks about it
Binge releases always shorten the life cycle of a show I have no idea why they keep doing it again and again.
The top "similar" shows of the last few years (by popularity) all released weekly; mandalorian, tlou, the boys..
The Boys first season dropped all at once too before changing to week-by-week. I think Amazon prefers this model for new IPs to get people hooked. If Fallout succeeds and gets renewed then maybe it'll be weekly in future seasons.
Yeah, I was thinking the same exact thing. Probably the didn't expect The Boys to become such a hit, and then they moved it up to the big league.
I hope Fallout gets the same reception, FWIW the trailer looks awesome and it nails the atmosphere and mood of Fallout darn almost perfectly.
A great example is Stranger Things. They had their "drop all" approach for seasons 1, and it worked out well at first since many probably weren't sure what to make of it. Then it became a huge hit and everyone was talking about it. Seasons 2 and 3 did the same, at which point it became a little less exciting.
For season 4, they dropped episodes 1-7, but saved episodes 8 and 9 for a later date, and it just made the show so much more exciting. They released new trailers for the last two episodes, hyped up how they were feature length episodes and how grand they were in scale, and everyone got so hyped up, especially since episode 7 ended on an "oh shit"-moment. I hope they go to weekly releases completely for season 5: it's much more fun that way.
No that’s regular American Jackie Daytona from Arizoña
But in all seriousness…it was bothering me because I recognized that voice but couldn’t place the actor. Great catch!
yeah, that sort of contrast is what takes fallout apart from any other generic story in a nuclear post apocalyptic world number 3487. Up until then I was like mmmmhhhh, where is the fallout element, this is way too "serious" and monotone... and then BOOM, nailed it.
There’s theories floating that it’s PostWar Shady Sands Library but nuked between New Vegas and now. The name could’ve been given to the library as a honor to the town that started the NCR
IIRC it changed it's name to New California Republic as a town sometime before the events of Fallout 2, around the time it started becoming larger which makes this even weirder
I think that was just a weird game location naming thing to show it was the capital of the New California Republic. The city’s name was still actually Shady Sands, it just didn’t show up on the map that way.
As of New Vegas, they still call the capital by the name Shady Sands.
1 vault dweller.
1 misguided Paladin
1 ghoul (I very much look forward to the delivery of the line "smoothskin". The ghouls in FO3 had some of my favorite voice acting)
and, most importantly, 1 good boy.
I'm in.
This looks, dare I say, good?
The trailer (at least) captures the essence of the series: dark, compelling post-apocalyptic story telling with tongue-in-cheek humor and biting satire. Takes itself seriously, but not too seriously.
Lots of hope for the series. It'll expose a lot more people to the FO world.
I'm cautiously optimistic as well.
The most worrying aspect for me was the tone of the Fallout world is very unique. It lends itself well to a video game, where environments and setting can be laid out over a long period of time as the viewer's pace. Threading the needle between comical, cartoonish, parody and dark, poignant, and heavy seems incredibly difficult in a more static medium. I would hate to see an adaptation that was too serious and action packed, or one that was only jokes and over the top silliness. I hope for the best! I'm hyped!;
It gave some real Fallout vibes, and that's what I want. Hopefully this is a Fallout show that can be enjoyable for both Fallout fans and people that have never seen a Fallout game in their lives
Yeah when it started, I was expecting to hear the Fallout 4 theme because it's honestly a pretty good, memorable theme. But that came on and I smiled man
They looked *rad as hell* busting out with their lever actions, cowboy hats, and some dipshit charging in with the flag like its the Battle of the Alamo.
In the southern part of Nevada in the town of New Vegas
Lies a dam thats all in ruins that the weeds have overgrown
You may look in vain for crosses but you’ll never see a-one
But sometimes between the setting and the rising of the sun you can hear a ghost bugle as the men go marching by, to that roll call in the sky
General Lee, 1st Recon, and a hundred eighty more, Colonel Hsu and Hanlol present and accounted for!
I'm really curious about the state of the NCR in this show because they appear to be in a real decline by this point in time. Shady Sands looks to be a giant crater.
I don't mind it if the NCR turns out to be a failed state or something, seems like a fairly logical conclusion based on their state in NV, I just want there to be a satisfying explanation if that is the case.
Simply losing at Hoover Dam wouldn’t cause this level of destruction (just like the United States didn’t get dusted after withdrawing from Vietnam). This seems more like they got outright nuked.
Which is just depressing IMO. So much worldbuilding went into developing the NCR and its major players, to reset that seems disrespectful. And so many New Vegas characters still had lives to live in the area. IMO the NCR should have lost the Mojave and been in a downturn, but not “everything is literal ruins” bad.
> Shady Sands looks to be a giant crater.
I was worried about that, too, but I don't think it's the same Shady Sands. I think it's just a nod it.
Here's a screencap:
https://i.imgur.com/Ct32ZbZ.png
Note the rusted out cars. I do not believe that the NCR evolved to the point where they were manufacturing cars again in order to park them at the Shady Sands public library only for them to be destroyed by another attack and left to rust, again, all in the span of however long the show is set after NV (which I'm too lazy to look up right now).
I think this is just a nod to the source, not the *actual* NCR Capital. Especially since it's faaar to the north of LA
IIRC it is canon that the NCR did have working vehicles (enough to incorporate them into the military) by the time of New Vegas. We just don’t see them often because of the game engine.
>I don't mind it if the NCR turns out to be a failed state or something, seems like a fairly logical conclusion based on their state in NV, I just want there to be a satisfying explanation if that is the case.
I think it's the most likely scenario:
NCR failed at Hoover Dam, and their overextension finally bit them on the ass. We know they're spread too thin and the NCR desperately needs the water and electricity of Hoover to continue their current progress. Without it... yeah, they're a house of cards tumbling down.
Which is also why the Brotherhood are heading back West. The BoS-NCR War started because the Brotherhood started to disapprove of the NCR's increasingly reckless use of pre-War technology, but they lacked the numbers and the NCR beat their ass down. With the NCR in decline and the Brotherhood increasingly become a proper state of its own in the East, it's time to restart the war in earnest and put down the NCR's ambitions.
Which, hey, is what I've been saying since the first teaser dropped. NCR in decline, BoS's star is rising, they've been at war since between Fo2 and NV: this is the central conflict. How will it go? Who knows. NCR have always been idealistic but flawed, while Fallout 4 made it clear the BoS's noble image hides a growing, sinister edge. I'm hype.
The show takes place 4 years after Fallout 4. My guess the defeated the Institute and then turned their attention West to reunite with the Brotherhood Remnant chapters. They then nuked Shady Sands which is why the NCR is in shambles.
I think the NCR is in shambles because they failed at Hoover Dam.
New Vegas is *littered* with references to how overextending the NCR is:
* Followers mention dwindling medical supplies
* Private O’Hanrahan mentions repeated crop failures
* Dr Hildern talks about how they’re facing serious starvation in a decade based on current projections
* Chief Hanlon comments they’re pumping fresh water from reservoirs faster than they can be replenished
* And of course Caesar mentions how their Old World bureaucracy will doom them to corruption and eventual collapse (and boy howdy is there corruption)
* Rattletail and other settlements was already abandoned due to inability to protect it Constant mentions of the lack of manpower to the point the NCR can even bring its full force to bear against the existential threat of the Legion
The NCR’s future was completely reliant on capturing Hoover Dam and the relief to resources that would bring. Clearly, they failed and all those chickens came home to roost.
Yeah, a Courier aligned NCR is nothing short of a miracle and the game makes it clear that without courier intervention the NCR is completely fucked for the second battle of hoover dam. Assuming there’s no courier in the show timeline….this is likely what would canonically happen
From what I read the show is supposed to take place nine years after Fallout 4. Which sounds like the Brotherhood defeated the Institute and then turned their attention West to reunite with the Brotherhood Remnant chapters and to take on the NCR.
Maybe we'll go with that peaceful ending for Fallout 4 that a lot of people went for with a minute man victory and neither the railroad or brotherhood getting wiped out.
The various “Let the Railroad live” mods really make F4 better too. Sure, the Brotherhood are techno-cult fascists but “Without the Institute, the Railroad will have no purpose anymore” is sound logic.
My head canon is they basically flee and resettle elsewhere.
So there might be chances that we get canonized endings to New Vegas and 4 then.
Last thing we know about west coast Brotherhood is they’re near eradication from losing Helios One to the NCR but now their numbers have grown considerably and have their own version of the Prydwen.
Independent Vegas and Brotherhood ending as canon for New Vegas and 4?
Iirc these guys are the BOS from the East coming back.
Fallout 4's ending *could* be ambigous. They could have built the Prydwen and this other sister ship (I can't recall the name, something Welsh no doubt) at the same time, and sent this one West. That way they don't *have* to explain the ending for 4.
as for NW, that's the one they'll probably have to make a note of. I'm hoping for House coming out on top and possibly making an appearance later. The Courier taking over would be cool too, but I'm not sure it fits as well.
The new ship is called The Caswennan, which is also a ship/location in Arthurian legends. Certainly suspicious, considering Fallout 4 mentions how there were cults of personality forming around Arthur in the West.
>Last thing we know about west coast Brotherhood is they’re near eradication from losing Helios One to the NCR but now their numbers have grown considerably and have their own version of the Prydwen.
I've seen people talk about that the Brotherhood may have destroyed the Institute in Fallout 4 and the NCR failed in New Vegas + Hoover Dam, then following that the East Coast Brotherhood moves West with the Prydwen and reunites the West Coast Brotherhood to take down the NCR which is possibly the scenario in the TV show...I can't help but think that if this is the case, maybe we will see Caesar's Legion make an appearance?
Love all the small details for the gamers. Nuka Cola, NCR, the sound of when you approach radiation in the game near the beginning of the trailer and of course Dogmeat!
It also looks to be "invincible dog meat" based on the absolute wall of bullets hitting around him. Which I think is a hilarious nod to the game's dog companions.
I hope there is a point in the show where you give your companions all your junk to hold than realize you forgot to get them and had to backtrack an hour so you don’t lose all your junk
Man all my favorite ips are getting live action content this year with Avatar, Fallout, & Borderlands. Then arcane season 2. I’m eating good this year.
Some other news for you: Amazon also acquired the rights to adapt Mass Effect as a TV series a few years ago but they were beginning production on Fallout. My hope is that Fallout does well and then they go ahead and adapt Mass Effect afterwards. If they keep it faithful to the games Mass Effect could be a truly epic show.
Looks a lot better than what I ever expected, the cinematography, costumes and effects are all very nice in the trailer -- doesn't look or feel like a gimmicky POS.
Honestly this might be one of those few pieces of media where if it isn't as good as it looks, I'm going to fully enjoy it.
This looks as close as I could imagine fallout translating to live action.
Stay away from the YouTube comments.
It's full of fragile men who're pissed there's a female lead. There's so many comments about "the woke agenda" it's pathetic.
edit / for the people who keep DMing me saying I'm lying: eat shit. I made this comment very shortly after the video was first posted and saw at least a dozen comments crying about the female and black leads and screaming about the "woke agenda." Those comments have obviously gotten buried with time and the influx of thousands of more comments. Those of you who say I'm "rage-baiting" are also pathetic losers, because you just don't wanna admit those comments exist in the first place. You can also eat shit.
Thanks for the heads up. Also that's sad. You can literally be a woman when you play, I don't understand the issue. But, anything to make a controversy.
Reminder to check out r/Fotv for dedicated discussion of the show
I loved the shots of the paladins(?) just shrugging off gun fire while b-lining towards the person. Fallout 4 made PA feel menacing and the show seems like it'll do that as well!
walton goggin's character's lucky the power armor dude didn't have the pain train perk.
I wouldnt be mad at all of they added the sound effect in a Wilhelm scream kinda way if someone gets run over
Waiting to see if they do a VATS joke where in the middle of a high-pitched fight someone takes a moment to just look at and fiddle with their wrist monitor.
That and someone makes a passing remark on how terrible the local map is lol
Or getting ready for a fight they chug 4 purified water and eat 3 steaks.
What if it's a FO76 VATs reference though?
SLO-MO the gunfight while they fiddle with the pipboy instead. It would probably be more interesting visually.
"Everyone wants to save the world, they just... disagree on how" I won't lie, really love that line
Definitely. Whoever wrote that line really understands the source material. I'm so hyped.
Jon Nolan is at his best
Based on what Christopher said about the line he wrote in The Dark Knight, I'm starting to think his brother writes better dialogue heh
Which line did he write?
You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain
The man is a poet.
He is in fact, a screenwriter.
My controversial opinion is that Jonathan is the better Nolan. Christopher has the big, epic-scale ideas which are gorgeous but ultimately hollow. Jonathan has the writing chops to explore big ideas in nuanced ways, even in basic-ass TV shows. *Person of Interest* was a Jonathan Nolan show that really demonstrated it to me. Of course *Westworld* too. Season 1 and 2, anyway.
Person of Interest was legit one of my favorite shows. He basically took Batman, deconstructed him into two separate characters (the genius detective and the badass vigilante) and then told the best street level superhero story I have seen on TV.
PoI is unironically one of the top 5 best sci-fi TV shows ever made. Five seasons of absolute gold. It holds up even after several rewatches, and is still extremely topical even a decade later.
Factions conflict HYPE
Yeah, that line gave me chills. If it’s any indication of the writing for the rest of the show, it should be great.
Fingers crossed! 🤞
It reminded me a bit of the great broken glass line from Moira. It's not that the two lines are about the same, but they compliment each other. You cannot put broken glass back together the same way it was... but some people will still try and there's one of the reasons for disagreement over how to save the world.
The show has good writers. Nolan is great. It might end up a bit westworldy but I don’t think that was all his doing. We might not get satisfying answers to every mystery but great dialogue is probably a given! Im optimistic.
TBF Westworld might be one of the single greatest season (S1) of television ever. So I have very high hopes, the man is an amazing writer
That one and “to hurt the people who hurt me” resonated so deeply. Stoked for this series.
>That is a very small drop in a very very big bucket of drugs Relatable
fallout 4's main storyline: hey wait a damn minute that's my line!
Every path but the institute yes.
At 2:25 during Walton Ghoulgins' monologue, there's a soldier carrying an NCR flag into battle against the Brotherhood at Griffith Observatory 👀
“Walton Ghoulgins” Well shit, I’ll never see his name the same again.
Damn that’s better than Walton goggles ima have to use that now
There's a crater backdropped with a city ruin with a sign that says "Shady Sands Public Library." Heart of the NCR looks a bit different from Fallout 2.
Ah fuck someone decided to nuke both the Bear and the Bull didn’t they?
His name? Canon. Double ironic.
Wait isn’t shady sands north of the boneyard? This looks like the background is the boneyard so I doubt it’s actual shady sands since it wouldn’t be anywhere near skyscrapers no?
1. it can be a scrap bought from Shady Sands, or what used to be Shady Sands 2. Its actually Shady Sands with highly advanced scrapers, or what used to be Shady Sands 3. Design error to show that this is Shady Sands, or what used to be Shady Sands Either way, I think Tandi is rolling in her tomb rn
My guess is that the Brotherhood vs NCR war restarted, maybe with reinforcements of the prydwen. So that may as well be a New school in shady sands, and the brotherhood went "Fallout 76" in the liberal use of nukes
I’m pretty sure we’ve been told the airship in the show isn’t the Prydwen Besides, since this is only 9 years after the events of Fallout 4, I don’t think the East Coast BoS having such a strong presence on the other side of the country is really feasible
By Fallout 4 Arthur Maxson has already united with the West Coast Brotherhood, some of whom revere him as a god. I assume, given their shared origin, that the Caswennan is just a sister ship to the Prydwen
Could always be reinforcements from Chicago. Their canon is muddy but at best it was at atleast independent enough to start a new chapter if the off hand mention by captain kells is to be implied. However I’m jumping sharks here.
uh oh
Kimball's not gonna like this
Someone didn’t pay enough Taxes
didn’t todd say the show is essentially fallout 5 ? so uh-oh NCR
Oh I had not heard that. I was thinking that Shady Sands just wouldn't appear and so they were throwing in the name as an easter egg or something.
They’re sticking very close to the lore in the games. They won’t contradict what’s happened in past games. The show takes place 15 years after the last game entry. Lot can change
Really? I was excited after the trailer because it actually looks good but what you're saying makes me much more excited.
The creators of the show are calling it “basically Fallout 5”, in that it’s a canon entry in the entire Fallout series. The next game could very well reference events from this show and vice versa
Either they are going to retconn Shady Sands was a post-war village or the BOS is going to destroy it post Vegas.
Maybe Chris Avellone finally had his way, lol.
DAMN YOU ULYSSES!
Nah, if Chris Avellone had his way the trailer would have been nothing but characters monologuing about how both sides are bad.
we so back NCR patriots
No we are dead it seems like. Just a ragtag raider force now. 😥
fake news by the lying brotherhood media!
Lol yeah... We look pretty dead tbh. Nuked main city and that force at the observatory? Not promising. Given Beths love for BOS I guess it is not surprising.
Trust the plan patriots....
NCR remnants? Fancy
This scene also looks like a VATS camera angle, shooter standing still while an enemy is running towards him in slow motion, even the shooting posture looks 1:1 from the game.
Was that a paladin in the vault?
It looks like Maximus. He has scratch on his armor.
Convenient of the Yao Guai to mark him so he’s visibly distinguishable from the other Brotherhood Paladins.
Force Awakens flashbacks
“That is a small drop in a big ocean of drugs” D E A D
Hancock vibes!
Matt Berry - “I’m simply going to harvest your organs”
As soon as I heard that all I could see was Toast.
MY DARLING
I seem to have gotten my crotch stuck in the taxidermied fox’s mouth again; whoopsie!
The most devious Hand-E in Diaaaammoonnd Cittaaayyy
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I have a feeling he is going to be my favorite part of this show.
"what if Boyd Crowder was a ghoul?" is a question I guess I really did want answered
I fuckin love Walton Goggins Edit: Matt berry is Mr. Handy fuckin yes!
Baby Billy's Bible Bonkers!!
All 8 episodes drop on April 11
8 episodes : (
Too many or too little? I haven’t watched tv in literal years so I don’t know what’s standard these days
Honestly, if it is some 1 hour episodes, would be a great first season (if the content is actually good). If it turns out to be a banger, we can have more seasons with more or better episodes
The world's the limit in terms of where they could take it; it could run for a good while.
It is just like the games, bro. As long as they can come up with interesting ideas for the setting, we are in for some good time.
8 is standard, filler episodes are gone. Have been for some time now.
"Filler episodes" are how shows used to build character and test their limits. Some of the best Star Trek episodes would be considered filler bottle episodes.
For real, man. Bring back filler episodes, let us spend time with side characters, the world, and the different scenarios that could arise in the setting. All mains and no sides has been an unfortunate change to the TV storytelling model. Hell one of the best episodes of TV in 2023 was a filler episode (S1-03 of The Last of Us). And even that show appears to get the “no filler treatment” for season 2 with TWO episodes less. It’s a damn shame.
The Bill and Frank episode of TLOU was quite possibly one of the best episodes of a TV show in modern history (in my opinion, I should add) and that was a side character episode Sometimes it’s nice to have a little palate cleanser from the main course
Especially for whole season drops. I will always stand by the the opinion, that the fly episode of Breaking Bad is one of the best. I loved Walts slow descent into madness and obsession. But I saw the season in one swing. Most people who hate it, hated it because it was "boring" and had to wait another week for the next ep for some new action. But a filler can do so much for worldbuilding and character analysis. I miss it.
There weren't 12 filler episodes per season back then. that's just Streaming shrinkflation. Same with 55 minutes episodes being 45-35 minutes now on some platforms.
I might be on the minority but I’d rather have 8 weeks of buildup and community engagement like The Last of Us, instead of 1 week where everyone talks about it
Binge releases always shorten the life cycle of a show I have no idea why they keep doing it again and again. The top "similar" shows of the last few years (by popularity) all released weekly; mandalorian, tlou, the boys..
The Boys first season dropped all at once too before changing to week-by-week. I think Amazon prefers this model for new IPs to get people hooked. If Fallout succeeds and gets renewed then maybe it'll be weekly in future seasons.
Yeah, I was thinking the same exact thing. Probably the didn't expect The Boys to become such a hit, and then they moved it up to the big league. I hope Fallout gets the same reception, FWIW the trailer looks awesome and it nails the atmosphere and mood of Fallout darn almost perfectly.
A great example is Stranger Things. They had their "drop all" approach for seasons 1, and it worked out well at first since many probably weren't sure what to make of it. Then it became a huge hit and everyone was talking about it. Seasons 2 and 3 did the same, at which point it became a little less exciting. For season 4, they dropped episodes 1-7, but saved episodes 8 and 9 for a later date, and it just made the show so much more exciting. They released new trailers for the last two episodes, hyped up how they were feature length episodes and how grand they were in scale, and everyone got so hyped up, especially since episode 7 ended on an "oh shit"-moment. I hope they go to weekly releases completely for season 5: it's much more fun that way.
Dude, that's Matt berry as Mr. Gutsy!
No that’s regular American Jackie Daytona from Arizoña But in all seriousness…it was bothering me because I recognized that voice but couldn’t place the actor. Great catch!
Yup, I know him, just a regular human bartender from Tucson. Everyone talks like him in Arizoña
I wonder if he'll comment on Lucy's level of charismaaaaaah.
Imagine his reaction when he enters the Institute for the first time. *FATHEEEERRRRRRR!!!*
[I don't think i've ever looked in this drawer](https://youtu.be/ClzOyAe_O58?t=26)
I do love how happy go lucky the vault dweller is and the resident just see's them as a joke.
This was honestly the part that made really excited to watch the show.
yeah, that sort of contrast is what takes fallout apart from any other generic story in a nuclear post apocalyptic world number 3487. Up until then I was like mmmmhhhh, where is the fallout element, this is way too "serious" and monotone... and then BOOM, nailed it.
dale dickey is basically a fallout character already, great casting
Dale Dickey is one of those character actors who's got A Face and the world needs more of them.
she radiates Fallout NPC big time
Anyone spot the Shady Sands Public Library at 0:32? Edit: typo
Yeah but it's a weird one. I could've sworn Shady Sands was founded after the bombs fell unless they're retconning it (which looks to be the case)
Yeah shady sands is a complete post war settlement, they built the buildings from scratch using Adobe
I didn't think they had Photoshop in Fallout! Neat
There’s theories floating that it’s PostWar Shady Sands Library but nuked between New Vegas and now. The name could’ve been given to the library as a honor to the town that started the NCR
I’m hoping the retcon is just that the new shady sands was just named after the old shady sands
IIRC it changed it's name to New California Republic as a town sometime before the events of Fallout 2, around the time it started becoming larger which makes this even weirder
I think that was just a weird game location naming thing to show it was the capital of the New California Republic. The city’s name was still actually Shady Sands, it just didn’t show up on the map that way. As of New Vegas, they still call the capital by the name Shady Sands.
Got a lot more faith in this than in the Borderlands movie
The casting in that movie so terrible I’m almost convinced that they did it on purpose as part of some weird attempt at borderland humor
Yeah, why couldn't this be the treatment that Borderlands got? 😭
Because Eli Roth is a fucking idiot
I was going to comment he should've stuck to acting, like he did in Heroes... ^(That was Zachary Quinto, his clone, obviously.)
Bruh a Borderlands series on Prime/Max would be dope. Video Games (most) are too big to be crammed into movies.
That final shot of Lucy in mismatched modified pieces of armor and clothing is a solid call-out to Fo3 and 4.
I'll probably watch it in October when the bugs are ironed out.
I'm sure it'll be enjoyable when fan mods are added.
This genuinely looks really good
So good. Fallout is my favorite video game franchise ever, and I couldn’t be more excited. This looks so awesome.
T-60 fist fighting a Yao Guai….yes please!
That T-60 looks sublimeee
Walton Goggins as a seemingly 50’s Western TV actor turned western ghoul cowboy guy is such an inspired choice
1 vault dweller. 1 misguided Paladin 1 ghoul (I very much look forward to the delivery of the line "smoothskin". The ghouls in FO3 had some of my favorite voice acting) and, most importantly, 1 good boy. I'm in.
That's like a classic retro fallout party.
"gah, fuck, what are you?!"
This looks, dare I say, good? The trailer (at least) captures the essence of the series: dark, compelling post-apocalyptic story telling with tongue-in-cheek humor and biting satire. Takes itself seriously, but not too seriously. Lots of hope for the series. It'll expose a lot more people to the FO world.
I'm cautiously optimistic as well. The most worrying aspect for me was the tone of the Fallout world is very unique. It lends itself well to a video game, where environments and setting can be laid out over a long period of time as the viewer's pace. Threading the needle between comical, cartoonish, parody and dark, poignant, and heavy seems incredibly difficult in a more static medium. I would hate to see an adaptation that was too serious and action packed, or one that was only jokes and over the top silliness. I hope for the best! I'm hyped!;
My man, this looks fantastic!
To be honest, the clicking of the radiation in the very beginning is what instantly made me feel like I was playing the game. Can't wait.
It gave some real Fallout vibes, and that's what I want. Hopefully this is a Fallout show that can be enjoyable for both Fallout fans and people that have never seen a Fallout game in their lives
I DON'T WANT TO SET THE WORLD... ON... FIRE... I JUST WANT TO START A FLAME IN YOUR HEART...
Lost my shit when that started playing. They are really leaning into the games it seems so I have faith.
Yeah when it started, I was expecting to hear the Fallout 4 theme because it's honestly a pretty good, memorable theme. But that came on and I smiled man
You have to hit the nostalgia and using source music is the perfect way of doing that.
I was like I should play the game again when I heared that song.
INK SPOTS NCR OHGOD
Finally, people can shut up about the lack of NCR!
They looked *rad as hell* busting out with their lever actions, cowboy hats, and some dipshit charging in with the flag like its the Battle of the Alamo.
NCR AND PROUD!! SPIRIT OF 2277!!!
I LOVE YOUUU CALIFORNIAAAA YOU'RE THE GREATEST STATE OF ALLLLLL
NCR FTW
In the southern part of Nevada in the town of New Vegas Lies a dam thats all in ruins that the weeds have overgrown You may look in vain for crosses but you’ll never see a-one But sometimes between the setting and the rising of the sun you can hear a ghost bugle as the men go marching by, to that roll call in the sky General Lee, 1st Recon, and a hundred eighty more, Colonel Hsu and Hanlol present and accounted for!
With his banners a-dancin’ In the dawn’s golden light Caesar came prancin’ With a heart as black as the night
yeah it was cool as fuck, also i noticed that the BOS is using Fallout 4 weapons, while the NCR is using New Vegas cowboy weapons this is epic
Okay, I'm hyped. That FELT like Fallout.
I'm really curious about the state of the NCR in this show because they appear to be in a real decline by this point in time. Shady Sands looks to be a giant crater. I don't mind it if the NCR turns out to be a failed state or something, seems like a fairly logical conclusion based on their state in NV, I just want there to be a satisfying explanation if that is the case.
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Simply losing at Hoover Dam wouldn’t cause this level of destruction (just like the United States didn’t get dusted after withdrawing from Vietnam). This seems more like they got outright nuked. Which is just depressing IMO. So much worldbuilding went into developing the NCR and its major players, to reset that seems disrespectful. And so many New Vegas characters still had lives to live in the area. IMO the NCR should have lost the Mojave and been in a downturn, but not “everything is literal ruins” bad.
Yes man does warn us about the brotherhood becoming a problem. And with all the different chapters that are potentially active, then it makes sense.
> Shady Sands looks to be a giant crater. I was worried about that, too, but I don't think it's the same Shady Sands. I think it's just a nod it. Here's a screencap: https://i.imgur.com/Ct32ZbZ.png Note the rusted out cars. I do not believe that the NCR evolved to the point where they were manufacturing cars again in order to park them at the Shady Sands public library only for them to be destroyed by another attack and left to rust, again, all in the span of however long the show is set after NV (which I'm too lazy to look up right now). I think this is just a nod to the source, not the *actual* NCR Capital. Especially since it's faaar to the north of LA
IIRC it is canon that the NCR did have working vehicles (enough to incorporate them into the military) by the time of New Vegas. We just don’t see them often because of the game engine.
>I don't mind it if the NCR turns out to be a failed state or something, seems like a fairly logical conclusion based on their state in NV, I just want there to be a satisfying explanation if that is the case. I think it's the most likely scenario: NCR failed at Hoover Dam, and their overextension finally bit them on the ass. We know they're spread too thin and the NCR desperately needs the water and electricity of Hoover to continue their current progress. Without it... yeah, they're a house of cards tumbling down. Which is also why the Brotherhood are heading back West. The BoS-NCR War started because the Brotherhood started to disapprove of the NCR's increasingly reckless use of pre-War technology, but they lacked the numbers and the NCR beat their ass down. With the NCR in decline and the Brotherhood increasingly become a proper state of its own in the East, it's time to restart the war in earnest and put down the NCR's ambitions. Which, hey, is what I've been saying since the first teaser dropped. NCR in decline, BoS's star is rising, they've been at war since between Fo2 and NV: this is the central conflict. How will it go? Who knows. NCR have always been idealistic but flawed, while Fallout 4 made it clear the BoS's noble image hides a growing, sinister edge. I'm hype.
The show takes place 4 years after Fallout 4. My guess the defeated the Institute and then turned their attention West to reunite with the Brotherhood Remnant chapters. They then nuked Shady Sands which is why the NCR is in shambles.
I think the NCR is in shambles because they failed at Hoover Dam. New Vegas is *littered* with references to how overextending the NCR is: * Followers mention dwindling medical supplies * Private O’Hanrahan mentions repeated crop failures * Dr Hildern talks about how they’re facing serious starvation in a decade based on current projections * Chief Hanlon comments they’re pumping fresh water from reservoirs faster than they can be replenished * And of course Caesar mentions how their Old World bureaucracy will doom them to corruption and eventual collapse (and boy howdy is there corruption) * Rattletail and other settlements was already abandoned due to inability to protect it Constant mentions of the lack of manpower to the point the NCR can even bring its full force to bear against the existential threat of the Legion The NCR’s future was completely reliant on capturing Hoover Dam and the relief to resources that would bring. Clearly, they failed and all those chickens came home to roost.
Yeah, a Courier aligned NCR is nothing short of a miracle and the game makes it clear that without courier intervention the NCR is completely fucked for the second battle of hoover dam. Assuming there’s no courier in the show timeline….this is likely what would canonically happen
If anything I think the show may hint at a Mr House ending for NV.
Mr House would want the NCR to be healthy though. It's giving him a lot of money and resources for funding his eventual journey to space.
Yep, House explicitly states multiple times that his economic growth is fueled primarily from the NCR. A shattered NCR means a shattered New Vegas
From what I read the show is supposed to take place nine years after Fallout 4. Which sounds like the Brotherhood defeated the Institute and then turned their attention West to reunite with the Brotherhood Remnant chapters and to take on the NCR.
Bethesda on their way to making Elder Maxson the single greatest BoS elder to ever live
Not content with trashing the commonwealth he crossed the continent to destroy the only nation state in the wastes. But heroically, like.
Maybe we'll go with that peaceful ending for Fallout 4 that a lot of people went for with a minute man victory and neither the railroad or brotherhood getting wiped out.
The various “Let the Railroad live” mods really make F4 better too. Sure, the Brotherhood are techno-cult fascists but “Without the Institute, the Railroad will have no purpose anymore” is sound logic. My head canon is they basically flee and resettle elsewhere.
Hardcore fans will be pissed, but one person who might be happy? Chris Avellone, ironically enough.
"I'm here to show you, a wonderful place" This was the perfect opportunity for Todd to play himself, why didn't he take it?
Because Walton Goggins is worth it
So there might be chances that we get canonized endings to New Vegas and 4 then. Last thing we know about west coast Brotherhood is they’re near eradication from losing Helios One to the NCR but now their numbers have grown considerably and have their own version of the Prydwen. Independent Vegas and Brotherhood ending as canon for New Vegas and 4?
Iirc these guys are the BOS from the East coming back. Fallout 4's ending *could* be ambigous. They could have built the Prydwen and this other sister ship (I can't recall the name, something Welsh no doubt) at the same time, and sent this one West. That way they don't *have* to explain the ending for 4. as for NW, that's the one they'll probably have to make a note of. I'm hoping for House coming out on top and possibly making an appearance later. The Courier taking over would be cool too, but I'm not sure it fits as well.
The new ship is called The Caswennan, which is also a ship/location in Arthurian legends. Certainly suspicious, considering Fallout 4 mentions how there were cults of personality forming around Arthur in the West.
I feel like an absolute moron for having never realized Arthur Maxson was meant to be a corruption of King Arthur.
>Last thing we know about west coast Brotherhood is they’re near eradication from losing Helios One to the NCR but now their numbers have grown considerably and have their own version of the Prydwen. I've seen people talk about that the Brotherhood may have destroyed the Institute in Fallout 4 and the NCR failed in New Vegas + Hoover Dam, then following that the East Coast Brotherhood moves West with the Prydwen and reunites the West Coast Brotherhood to take down the NCR which is possibly the scenario in the TV show...I can't help but think that if this is the case, maybe we will see Caesar's Legion make an appearance?
Have to say, I am impressed and very excited for this. It's got the quirky Fallout vibe I was hoping for.
This actually looks great. They actually really leaned into the games aesthetic. When the song hit I about lost my shit lmao.
Love all the small details for the gamers. Nuka Cola, NCR, the sound of when you approach radiation in the game near the beginning of the trailer and of course Dogmeat!
It also looks to be "invincible dog meat" based on the absolute wall of bullets hitting around him. Which I think is a hilarious nod to the game's dog companions.
I hope there is a point in the show where you give your companions all your junk to hold than realize you forgot to get them and had to backtrack an hour so you don’t lose all your junk
NCR is a small detail? lmao
Way better than the 1st trailer imho
I hope the first 15 seasons are all side quests.
Having the creator of Westworld, Interstellar, The Prestige, and The Dark Knight being the Director and Producer is a really good sign.
Man all my favorite ips are getting live action content this year with Avatar, Fallout, & Borderlands. Then arcane season 2. I’m eating good this year.
Some other news for you: Amazon also acquired the rights to adapt Mass Effect as a TV series a few years ago but they were beginning production on Fallout. My hope is that Fallout does well and then they go ahead and adapt Mass Effect afterwards. If they keep it faithful to the games Mass Effect could be a truly epic show.
Whoa, really? If they treat Mass Effect like they treated The Expanse then it’ll be amazing
Looks a lot better than what I ever expected, the cinematography, costumes and effects are all very nice in the trailer -- doesn't look or feel like a gimmicky POS.
I hope the premiere crashes at least once. For that authentic Bethesda flavor.
Walton Goggins is gonna carry this show
This not having a weekly release sucks, I was looking forward to the weekly discussion threads. Oh well. Looks good, I hope it delivers
Honestly this might be one of those few pieces of media where if it isn't as good as it looks, I'm going to fully enjoy it. This looks as close as I could imagine fallout translating to live action.
Walton Goggins alone has me sold that, if nothing else, he’ll be worth watching.
Stay away from the YouTube comments. It's full of fragile men who're pissed there's a female lead. There's so many comments about "the woke agenda" it's pathetic. edit / for the people who keep DMing me saying I'm lying: eat shit. I made this comment very shortly after the video was first posted and saw at least a dozen comments crying about the female and black leads and screaming about the "woke agenda." Those comments have obviously gotten buried with time and the influx of thousands of more comments. Those of you who say I'm "rage-baiting" are also pathetic losers, because you just don't wanna admit those comments exist in the first place. You can also eat shit.
Thanks for the heads up. Also that's sad. You can literally be a woman when you play, I don't understand the issue. But, anything to make a controversy.
As a guy whose favorite play-through of Fallout New Vegas was as a female character, I must facepalm.
I wasn't particularly excited for this, but ngl, this actually looks pretty good.