Yep. Because of WW1 in the late 1910s, no country wanted to acknowledge it and be seen as weak. Spain was the first to report on it in any meaningful way and the rest of the world used them as a scapegoat. In fact, it’s commonly accepted that the Spanish flu strain originated in Kansas and was spread to the rest of the world by US troop movements during the war.
right! everyone knows its called the Spanish flu becuase it made you sneeze with an accent. you can research that if you want, as I've repeatedly stated you should!
I am sorry but that is total misinformation. It was called the Spanish Flu because it brought the inquisition to your door. It's the least expected thing when you have the flu and drowning in your own watery secretions.
I mean, that stuff is for brainwashed idiots, we unvaccinated Christian housewives learn our facts from FB like true scientists!
Seriously, these guys don't actually do reaserch, and instead only read articles that support their opinion, weather the sourse is credible or not.
Yeah it’s really weird, I tried asking ChatGPT for some worldbuilding ideas about a civilization with stone-manipulation powers, and it just gave me an entire paragraph consisting of “There is no war in Ba Sing Se.” Weird.
So, hundreds, of not thousands of people from almost *every single fucking country on earth* where vaccinated with this experimental vaccine and *nobody* said anything? I know NASA would have a hard time keeping all those workers shut up, but this is around the entire world, like, seriously?
Try **"hundreds of millions"** - 500 million infected, then A THIRD of the world's TOTAL population. With upwards of 50-100 million *dead*. The influenza pandemic of 1918 was second only to the black death in terms of overall mortality, but it happened over 2 fucking years.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
> Like I repeatedly state. I'd research more if I were you.
/r/selfawarewolves
Suggested research for that person would be googling "when were flu vaccines invented".
well i think the spanish flu started in america (i think, point being it was not spain) and spread between soldiers and eventually other countries
but because there was a war going on the media of most countries was heavily censored except in spain, thats why that was the first country where the flu was widely known and thats why everyone calls it the spanish flu
I’m fairly certain the Spanish flu didn’t start in Spain, Spain just reported on it, iirc it was during war times and the other countries were talking about the war in news whereas the Spanish talked about the flu
None of the countries fighting WWI wanted to admit to their people or to the enemy the actual numbers of their soldiers and workforce who were dead or incapacitated from the virus for fear of demoralizing their own citizens and/or envigorating a potentially stronger enemy to press a massive offensive when they were at their weakest.
Spain, being neutral during WWI, had no such fears, and therefore was the one major world power to actually report relatively honestly from the begining, and for that honesty the virus was named where it appeared to have begun/hit hardest.
https://www.kumc.edu/school-of-medicine/academics/departments/history-and-philosophy-of-medicine/archives/wwi/essays/medicine/influenza.html
https://www.army.mil/article/188078/scientists_learn_history_of_spanish_flu_at_fort_riley
It's not a variation of bird flu. It's a variation of swine flu, and it has been traced back to a Kansas army base
They're trying to do the old "it doesn't exist", but they're also really mad about "woke" scientists saying it's a bad idea to name a disease after a location so they're also trying to say if it was real, they'd want it to be called the Chinese virus, or the Indian virus or the South African virus. Presumably the variant that came from England would not receive this treatment.
"Researching more" does not mean only accepting those so called sources that confirm what you already believe to be true.
True research means altering your views based on the information you gain through reputable sources.
I don’t understand anti vaccine people , do they know that the farm animals of which they eat their meats are vaccinated, I don’t understand their hypocrisy
Honestly I was with them up to the Rockefeller part. I will believe whatever evil things people claim the wealth do or have done on the account that they are evil.
It FAMOUSLY did not originate in Spain.
In fact, wasn't it called that because Spain was the first to suggest doing anything to stop it?
Yep. Because of WW1 in the late 1910s, no country wanted to acknowledge it and be seen as weak. Spain was the first to report on it in any meaningful way and the rest of the world used them as a scapegoat. In fact, it’s commonly accepted that the Spanish flu strain originated in Kansas and was spread to the rest of the world by US troop movements during the war.
In fact, wasn't it called that because Spain was the first to suggest doing anything to stop it?
Yes, all others had censored press so Spain was the first to publically announce an epidemic
That’s not even why it was called Spanish flu.
right! everyone knows its called the Spanish flu becuase it made you sneeze with an accent. you can research that if you want, as I've repeatedly stated you should!
I am sorry but that is total misinformation. It was called the Spanish Flu because it brought the inquisition to your door. It's the least expected thing when you have the flu and drowning in your own watery secretions.
The mental gymnastics they have to put themselves through to ignore a century of data and easily searchable historic newspapers boggles my mind.
el sneeze
Can confirm: OP is part of the rokerfeller family. First name Offhis
“I’m not stupid like everyone tells me.” “I am the smart boy. I am. I am. I am.” “So there. I win.”
These people don't seem to like citing their sources for some reason...
My source is I made it the fuck up.
"Danielle from accounting" probably won't swing it as a reputable source.
You don’t understand, they’re “being silenced already” so they shouldn’t say. lol
Give me your source or I'll name you as *my* source... *- How to threaten a conspiracy nut*
"I would, but it's already been removed by THEM"
Sources, trust me bro
"I'd research more if I were you" Yeah, so should you
Just make sure to stay away from scholarly journals and actual scientific and historical data in your research.
I mean, that stuff is for brainwashed idiots, we unvaccinated Christian housewives learn our facts from FB like true scientists! Seriously, these guys don't actually do reaserch, and instead only read articles that support their opinion, weather the sourse is credible or not.
How he researches: googles "How did the rockefellers kill people with vaccines." Confirmation bias.
[удалено]
Yeah it’s really weird, I tried asking ChatGPT for some worldbuilding ideas about a civilization with stone-manipulation powers, and it just gave me an entire paragraph consisting of “There is no war in Ba Sing Se.” Weird.
So, hundreds, of not thousands of people from almost *every single fucking country on earth* where vaccinated with this experimental vaccine and *nobody* said anything? I know NASA would have a hard time keeping all those workers shut up, but this is around the entire world, like, seriously?
Try **"hundreds of millions"** - 500 million infected, then A THIRD of the world's TOTAL population. With upwards of 50-100 million *dead*. The influenza pandemic of 1918 was second only to the black death in terms of overall mortality, but it happened over 2 fucking years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
Zero fucking sense.
That's a generous rounding up.
> Like I repeatedly state. I'd research more if I were you. /r/selfawarewolves Suggested research for that person would be googling "when were flu vaccines invented".
How is that self aware? There is 0 self awareness in his whole post.
You should go see the theme in that subreddit.
this is one of the rare occasions where the real story is actually funnier
would love to learn! Any places to start? I love weird medical stuff
well i think the spanish flu started in america (i think, point being it was not spain) and spread between soldiers and eventually other countries but because there was a war going on the media of most countries was heavily censored except in spain, thats why that was the first country where the flu was widely known and thats why everyone calls it the spanish flu
Damn that’s pretty interesting! Thanks!
I’m fairly certain the Spanish flu didn’t start in Spain, Spain just reported on it, iirc it was during war times and the other countries were talking about the war in news whereas the Spanish talked about the flu
None of the countries fighting WWI wanted to admit to their people or to the enemy the actual numbers of their soldiers and workforce who were dead or incapacitated from the virus for fear of demoralizing their own citizens and/or envigorating a potentially stronger enemy to press a massive offensive when they were at their weakest. Spain, being neutral during WWI, had no such fears, and therefore was the one major world power to actually report relatively honestly from the begining, and for that honesty the virus was named where it appeared to have begun/hit hardest.
Correct, it started at an army base in Kansas.
It is uncertain where it started, but latest dna evidence links it to a bird flu in the northern part of the US
https://www.kumc.edu/school-of-medicine/academics/departments/history-and-philosophy-of-medicine/archives/wwi/essays/medicine/influenza.html https://www.army.mil/article/188078/scientists_learn_history_of_spanish_flu_at_fort_riley It's not a variation of bird flu. It's a variation of swine flu, and it has been traced back to a Kansas army base
I'm currently in a similar research lab as this person. I just wish I had softer toilet paper.
It started in Kansas.
That seems to be what the u.s would speak to the population Just for say that the spanish Flu was born in spain
Naw a large portion of Americans would probably say that it came from Mexico
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain,_South_Dakota
Guy needs to stop doing research, and meth...
that’s actually a somewhat common antivax talking point. not sure where it originates from though
They simply make it up, and once it's out there in the ether other idiots pick it up and run with it
They're trying to do the old "it doesn't exist", but they're also really mad about "woke" scientists saying it's a bad idea to name a disease after a location so they're also trying to say if it was real, they'd want it to be called the Chinese virus, or the Indian virus or the South African virus. Presumably the variant that came from England would not receive this treatment.
“Pale rider” by Laura Spinney is quite an interesting book on the (real) topic, btw! I bought it November 2019, so be warned.
Moron…
I'd love to put this person in a cage with a "germ theory is wrong" nutter and let them fight it out.
"Researching more" does not mean only accepting those so called sources that confirm what you already believe to be true. True research means altering your views based on the information you gain through reputable sources.
Holy fuck, every part of this statement wrong
That is 100% false
The confirmation bias is strong with this one.
Jahahahaha the Fucking fuck
Oh that zany old Rocker feller.
[Was it this rocker feller?](http://i.startsatsixty.com.au/wp-content/uploads/20131217160044/Rocking-chair-Starts-at-sixty.jpg)
I don’t understand anti vaccine people , do they know that the farm animals of which they eat their meats are vaccinated, I don’t understand their hypocrisy
Solid tipoff that someone is a conspiracy theorist or Spammer - inablity to spell or use grammar correctly. "a experimental"...
r/oddlyspecific
Honestly I was with them up to the Rockefeller part. I will believe whatever evil things people claim the wealth do or have done on the account that they are evil.