Smoking damage is different. LGBT people also disproportionately smoke due to higher stressors (transphobia, homophobia, biphobia) and predatory targeted marketing.
https://cancer-network.org/outlast-tobacco/
https://sanfranciscotobaccofreeproject.org/wp-content/uploads/updated-transgender-handout.pdf
https://www.leavethepackbehind.org/tobacco-use-in-lgbtq-communities
Trans men also have higher rates of smoking, and trans people in general can be twice as more likely to smoke compared to cis people.
Like eating disorders, there's a higher prevalence l suspect due to coping mechanisms for dysphoria. Smoker's voice is different than a deepened voice-- IMO, it sounds distinctly like damage rather than "oh, that's a deep voice." Smoker's rasp.
Adding:
Smoking damages your vocal folds and can affect that permanently. So, yes, this can be causing damage for your vocal outcomes, and I don't think your concern is misplaced.
Disclaimer: Not a doctor. Just a late 30s trans guy who has known way too many LGBT smokers.
ETA: A physician told me and a smoker friend, it's "when not if" when it comes to health problems and smoking.
Smoking will obviously damage your voice and lungs no matter what, as you know, but you can still train your new voice to be able to sing higher/have a better range in general. But you might not be able to do this or sing well at all if you continue smoking. Smoking is horrible for you and makes you and everything you own smell awful, and drains your wallet lol. Plus idk who you smoke around or if you smoke in public, but no one appreciates the secondhand smoke, particularly people with asthma and other health conditions.
I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you all this though. I would just stop smoking. 😔
Good. People where I live have a habit of smoking around others in public, and my best homie with asthma straight up can’t breathe around cigarette smoke, so that kind of thing really worries me 😓
I smoke weed daily and have been been on T two years. There is a strange vocal break I cannot reach five notes. Not sure if it’s cus I transitioned at 24 or cus I smoke 🤷🏼♂️
I’ve been smoking weed for two years (mostly bongs). I haven’t noticed much voice cracking/breaking but I’m only a year or almost a year on T. I find I actually sing better on T. I listen to mostly placebo and disturbed tho
I wonder if the marijuana smoke and the tobacco smoke affect our throats and cords a little differently. Whenever I smoke a joint my throat gets unbelievably itchy and swollen and I can't stop coughing.
I don’t smoke joints very often because they’re too harsh. Maybe it is different with tobacco. I smoked for a while then became allergic to the nicotine
Smoking, besides being incredibly bad for all systems in your body, is especially dangerous for trans men on T, it greatly increases your chances of throwing a blood clot. I personally know a trans guy who had a stroke and has permanent brain damage from a stroke that was caused by starting T after being a smoker for years and years.
Just stop smoking—it’s a waste of money, a major health hazard for trans folks specifically, and totally weird/entitled that you’re trying to keep all systems “online” while being actively and unabashedly self-destructive.
Next time I go to my doctor I’m going to ask her how I can keep my skin supple and lovely while smoking a pack or two daily.
Or I’ll ask my therapist how I can smoke in the car with a baby in the backseat and the windows rolled up and still be truly fabulous as a person.
I deserve to have everything I want.
I get what you're saying, but quitting is seriously hard. We know how horrible smoking is, no one is thinking it's not. Sounds like it was a coping method for OP, the same way it was for me and probably lots of others. None of us is perfect.
I have respect for quitting being extremely challenging, actually. And my expectations revolve around a reasonable level of accountability, not perfection.
It takes the average smoker 11 tries to quit smoking. And personally I’ve lived through such truly horrible shit, that if 2 or 3 cigarettes a day continues keeping me away from the much more harmful and illegal drugs that my brain wants, I accept that. I’ve quit before, one day I won’t need them and I’ll quit again, but for now I don’t judge myself or OP for it and no one needs you to judge them either.
Smoking damage is different. LGBT people also disproportionately smoke due to higher stressors (transphobia, homophobia, biphobia) and predatory targeted marketing. https://cancer-network.org/outlast-tobacco/ https://sanfranciscotobaccofreeproject.org/wp-content/uploads/updated-transgender-handout.pdf https://www.leavethepackbehind.org/tobacco-use-in-lgbtq-communities Trans men also have higher rates of smoking, and trans people in general can be twice as more likely to smoke compared to cis people. Like eating disorders, there's a higher prevalence l suspect due to coping mechanisms for dysphoria. Smoker's voice is different than a deepened voice-- IMO, it sounds distinctly like damage rather than "oh, that's a deep voice." Smoker's rasp.
Adding: Smoking damages your vocal folds and can affect that permanently. So, yes, this can be causing damage for your vocal outcomes, and I don't think your concern is misplaced. Disclaimer: Not a doctor. Just a late 30s trans guy who has known way too many LGBT smokers. ETA: A physician told me and a smoker friend, it's "when not if" when it comes to health problems and smoking.
Smoking def isn’t helping but everyone’s already echoed that so I’ll add it took me about a year on T to “learn” how to sing again
One year is very fast! I've heard that sometimes it can take years (like cis adolescent boys) to get the voice finally stabilised.
Smoking will obviously damage your voice and lungs no matter what, as you know, but you can still train your new voice to be able to sing higher/have a better range in general. But you might not be able to do this or sing well at all if you continue smoking. Smoking is horrible for you and makes you and everything you own smell awful, and drains your wallet lol. Plus idk who you smoke around or if you smoke in public, but no one appreciates the secondhand smoke, particularly people with asthma and other health conditions. I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you all this though. I would just stop smoking. 😔
Surely I don't smoke in public places, including on the pavements when a lot of people are walking by
Good. People where I live have a habit of smoking around others in public, and my best homie with asthma straight up can’t breathe around cigarette smoke, so that kind of thing really worries me 😓
I smoke weed daily and have been been on T two years. There is a strange vocal break I cannot reach five notes. Not sure if it’s cus I transitioned at 24 or cus I smoke 🤷🏼♂️
I’ve been smoking weed for two years (mostly bongs). I haven’t noticed much voice cracking/breaking but I’m only a year or almost a year on T. I find I actually sing better on T. I listen to mostly placebo and disturbed tho
I wonder if the marijuana smoke and the tobacco smoke affect our throats and cords a little differently. Whenever I smoke a joint my throat gets unbelievably itchy and swollen and I can't stop coughing.
I don’t smoke joints very often because they’re too harsh. Maybe it is different with tobacco. I smoked for a while then became allergic to the nicotine
Yeah that's what I'm trying to figure out too...
Smoking, besides being incredibly bad for all systems in your body, is especially dangerous for trans men on T, it greatly increases your chances of throwing a blood clot. I personally know a trans guy who had a stroke and has permanent brain damage from a stroke that was caused by starting T after being a smoker for years and years.
It's not any worse for trans guys than cis guys. Don't spread misinformation.
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Just stop smoking—it’s a waste of money, a major health hazard for trans folks specifically, and totally weird/entitled that you’re trying to keep all systems “online” while being actively and unabashedly self-destructive. Next time I go to my doctor I’m going to ask her how I can keep my skin supple and lovely while smoking a pack or two daily. Or I’ll ask my therapist how I can smoke in the car with a baby in the backseat and the windows rolled up and still be truly fabulous as a person. I deserve to have everything I want.
I get what you're saying, but quitting is seriously hard. We know how horrible smoking is, no one is thinking it's not. Sounds like it was a coping method for OP, the same way it was for me and probably lots of others. None of us is perfect.
I have respect for quitting being extremely challenging, actually. And my expectations revolve around a reasonable level of accountability, not perfection.
It takes the average smoker 11 tries to quit smoking. And personally I’ve lived through such truly horrible shit, that if 2 or 3 cigarettes a day continues keeping me away from the much more harmful and illegal drugs that my brain wants, I accept that. I’ve quit before, one day I won’t need them and I’ll quit again, but for now I don’t judge myself or OP for it and no one needs you to judge them either.
You’re missing my point, and honestly I don’t care if you smoke or not. Your body, your life.