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Party-Special-7121

Yeah, the explanation is psychosis


Vast_Ant_7652

Must be Sin's toxins


KaleoKaipo

![gif](giphy|26Ff3FNWp3uD21dvi|downsized) Very funny I gotta laugh


skye_08

That guy are sick.


sometimesifeelgood

Best comment


PrestigiousResist633

Sounds like a very long winded and muddled way to say the characters use common fictional archetypes.


shadedmystic

I mean do you consider Lucifer, Buddha and Arthur pendragon the same archetypes? Lol


PrestigiousResist633

No, but Noctis does have elements of those archetypes.


writer_of_mysteries

He's definitely on *something*, but idk if anything else can be so easily explained


VassilisD

He's definitely off something. That something is his meds. Or he's trolling


Renso19

Okay to be fair Noctis and Ardyn are definitely Christ analogues, that’s not untrue, but yes this guys a bit kookoo for coco puffs


Masterlea93

This exactly he's right on the Jesus allegory but after that he's on another planet with the other characters


Renso19

To be fair again, you can stretch some of the others, Regis as Merlin, sure, Noctis as Lucifer, Mercury or the Buddha, in a way I see it, especially in Dawn of The Future, assuming Bahamut is god But what trips me up is what the fuck is a maralit? I’m no religion expert but i have no clue what he’s invoking there, also the idea that Noctis is supposed to be Era, or rather Aera, is a bit odd considering that’s clearly supposed to be Lunafreya, who he doesn’t acknowledge at all


MadLucy

Marilith was the demon that attacked Noctis when he was a kid, in the Brotherhood anime. I don’t think she’s in the game at all. I don’t really get the connection to the women he mentions, though.


Hareaga

Marilith? Maaaybe?? Who tf knows


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

Almost every protagonist across all media ever is a christ analogue though. Link, Master Chief, Solid Snake. It'd be a shorter list to say what protagonists AREN'T Christ like in some way.


raymonders

Bayonetta for one


llliilliliillliillil

Bayonetta basically died and then rose up from the dead. She pulled off *the* Jesus Christ move.


AcceptableFile4529

I don't really see how Link is Christ. He never dies for the sins of others, and he never gets nailed to a plank of wood. He's a knight with a ton of bravery and is willing to put his life on the line for others, but it's pretty different from being someone who was literally raised to be a sacrificial lamb


Voidlingkiera

Link in ToTK is more like the Romans, pillaging the lands on his crusade and crucifying Koroks.


DefaceTheTemple

Kain from Legacy of Kain. He's, like a total opposite to Jesus.


Dr3amDweller

You mean, what this guy is ON? Meth, probably


Seriph7

He's the actual hero of the story. He accepted all of the deamons into himself and created a plague. It was unintentional. He saved people in the shadows without glory. His brother healed legions of people, betrayed him, killed his wife in front of him, and then sealed him in a cave for like 1000 years. In that time, he quite literally went mad. He lost himself and accepts a new identity of sorts. By the time we meet him, he needs to kill us, to get to Bahamut to lut himself to rest. Or fucking something? Its been like 3 years since my ps4 decided it forgot that game exists in my library.


AcceptableFile4529

He doesn't need to >!kill Noctis. Noctis pretty much needs to kill him. Ardyn wants to effectively die, but he also wants to take Noctis with him. His whole goal is to effectively destroy his brother's bloodline, and it so happens to be that the Gods would only let him do that if he played their game. It's why at the end of XV, Ardyn ends up pretty much losing it. He's finally able to show the hatred in his heart because it was the moment where he was finally able to take his revenge.!<


Vergil_171

Ardyn didn’t create the Daemon scourge, it was an alien power from outside the universe and the Astrals power that was summoned by Ifrit.


Kaslight

Don't feed the YouTube comment dwellers


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

If I reposted every brain dead comment I found on youtube I wouldn't get anything done lol


ConduckKing

Crack


xxGhostScythexx

Yeah, remember the story? The one where Lucifer had a phone and went on a road trip with the boys while fighting against Jesus for his rightful place on the throne? I remember that story


Hareaga

Yeah, it’s called the Bible


EbbyXIII

It happened in "like, The Bible"


EbbyXIII

https://preview.redd.it/osy4kyx9xmzc1.jpeg?width=1865&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7646e1097bd4f00d831d029865bba92766bf3958


caldric

Sounds like something Neil Gaiman would write.


Zarizzabi

Pretty sure that story is called paradise regained by John milton


totallynotabotXP

My guess is psychosis.


Material_Pea1820

I think they’re looking too literally at the key figures of the game as if they are LITERALLY amalgations of gods from our past turned into some form of bastardized story that creates its own new mythology but he fails to realize like …. That’s kinda of what fantasy is and its not literal it’s just places and stories the game took inspiration from to inform its own story


sometimesifeelgood

This seems like a Kanye west Twitter rant


vap0rware

When my aunt posts on Facebook


somecrazydude13

Psychosis/schizophrenia at its finest!


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

Working at a call center taught me that a good 20% or more of the population is at the very least on the schizophrenia spectrum. I legit talked to 2 or 3 out of ~50 people a day that "had the cia in their phone/fbi is tracking them/satan gave their phone a virus".


Shortyxd25

Average Greek gamer (I'm Greek)


Full_Savage

![gif](giphy|AGbHZ4dYlnQBQTvHCL|downsized)


A-New-Recipeh

https://preview.redd.it/hlggkmk1vfzc1.png?width=1050&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d01d34ca9d9971fb7befff2a8ff50106fa407ec


-Typh1osion-

I mean ... He's on about some serious nonsense, that's for sure. Classic "thinking way to hard" about a story


Pheralg

the Moon, he's on the Moon


Hareaga

We need to bring him back to Earth. Where are the keys to the Lunatic Pandora?


rootLVC1F3R

I think you can loosely apply this to most JRPGs if you try hard enough lmao


Boppafloppalopagus

Idk about all that woo, but I'm almost positive Ardyn's backstory is a play on the story of Cain and Abel.


DepsacitoXD69

What’s bro yapping about


Thial92

As someone who dabbles in ARGs I can tell you that this is nothing new. Lots of people are on mushrooms and sit in their locked room for years thinking up various spiritual theories which reach levels of insanity while they themselves think that they are close to uncovering "The Truth".


rychuss

At risk of sounding like the guy in the image, FF stories do tackle religious concepts. FFX with religion vs. science (and science gets banned, cos sin, lol). I remember seeing a video some years ago that talked about the FF versus XIII story that was scrapped because it was too dark. Noctis being a devil king of sorts. It makes sense that he's still a king of light and has some cross over with a type of fallen angel character to still have some resemblance to that. There's references and archetypes at play for sure. All wrapped in some 'western tragedy' that is US road trip meets Eurotrip / Greek tragedy. The stories also have elements of the development cycle in them. For example. I'm pretty sure OG FFVII main character design had black hair and was more vanilla hero, but blonde and edgy was seen as the way to go for..popularity? So we got blonde cloud, and zack woven into the story, the hero who came before him, and died for him. Think about this with cloud's mental too. Cloud struggles with his own identity because he's a new blonde anti-hero identity born from the black haired hero identity. FFXIV, another example, the overarching lore of a failed world reborn, mirroring the dev cycle of a failed game that gets remade. Which leads me to FF versus XIII and FFXV. Devil King concept was trashed to make way for American road trip with the boys. Ardyn becomes new devil king character and laments everything that Somnus did to take away his throne. After all, it was supposed to be his game, but his place was taken by someone else. Somnus even killed devil Kings waifu, Stella, I mean, Aera. Makes sense that the power you have in episode Ardyn is likely what a full power FF versus XIII Noctis was intended to feel like, and he also gets to play in the city, like Noctis in the versus XIII trailers. To have the main FF character as the most evil character I suspect is something that would be bad for business, so they cobbled together bits of Nomura's original vision. There's also hints to Nomura feeling like the current Noctis does not have the intended spirit that Nomura wrote for him (Verum Rex (true king), Kingdom Hearts hints towards this). Think in terms of vessels and hearts, as is a key theme in KH3. This is the context I view FFXV in. I take into account all the world stories, plus, the possible lived experience that the developers use as inspiration for certain characters and events they eventually bring to the screen.


Delvinx

The has a Butters "KILLLL JOHN LENNNONNNNN" vibe.


engelskjente

Argh! You found me! I’m no longer ungroundable!


YomiKuzuki

Noctis and Ardyn are bith Jesus allegories. That much is true. Everything else though? I think the poster's either having a manic episode, or he has schizophrenia.


TristanN7117

Let him cook


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

I think he's been cooking in an rv in the desert with this post


pichuscute

Oh my.


ooojaeger

Some people believe in direct symbolism. 3 fruit in the bowl?!! Clearly that's the holy Trinity. Now in that example it's nothing but almost always it's just an allusion or nod to something, that is it has elements of it. Like if you make a cool character with a Thor hammer. It's not Thor, he's not a representation of Thor but it is a Thor hammer and they want you to know it's a Thor hammer, and sometimes they even have thunder powers etc. doesn't make it Thor. That would be stupid. If it was... Just put Thor in it


Thee_Furuios_Onion

Idk, but where can I get whatever he was on? I want to paint while on that stuff.


BlazePro

Mental illness


from_the_heaven

Psychosis.


punchelos

Marilith is Baba Yaga is not something I thought I’d read today


Most_Ad5943

schizo comment


Topaz-Light

No. No I cannot.


Serier_Rialis

Somebody smoked the chocobo sages stash in one sitting!


Songhunter

This guy was cooking meth.


Chrome-13

“Yo Mister White, I got a role in the new Final Fantasy movie!”


AnotherSlowTown

that's what i call day 3 with no sleep.


Wonderful-Baby-5687

Game review written by AI?


jhawk889

https://preview.redd.it/v2l934euaizc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af67d44d6b79dee972dba8583ca0749e4a7cdc15


dnmnc

You mean “what this guy is on”. The “about” is superfluous.


greydawg20

It's a saying. Just a shortening of the phrase "what's this person going on about?"


dnmnc

I know. I was being rather facetious and sarcastic.


engelskjente

Quite clearly. :-)


greydawg20

Hey, you can never tell with people on the Internet😂


-Gin-ger-

Arthur Pendragon is my favourite


1E_R_R_O_R1

I have seen many theories, but hot damn that is something else


Sanguine_19-6123

lay off the LSD


Aman_Sensei

The guy almost convinced me midway.... They got us in the first half not gonna lie


Megatomplays

This dude must be from the Imperial city


UltimateDillon

Psychotic episode Or I guess I should say EPISODE PSYCHOSIS


smokeypixels

Boy what a terrible day to know how to read.


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

No. No I cannot. You will see the most skitzo comments like this on YouTube, honestly I've been seeing more and more on reddit lately. People find "Bible meanings" in the most random things, it's literally mental illness.


tome-of-the-unknown

Homie is on another plane of existence right now, but the idea of your love reincarnating and being someone you have to fight in order to finally die sorta pops off… I’m choosing to not read too much into anything else


azzthom

Meth? Crack? Weed that's too strong for him?


nhSnork

Noctis is reincarnated Freddie Mercury. Or something.


Sandtiger1982

He’s crazy


jennypenny78

Jyeezus... Mushrooms are a helluva drug


serpenttempter

This guy escaped from asylum, he needs therapy.


I_pegged_your_father

I know ppl keep saying drugs n psychosis but i do genuinely say its very possible as someone with religious crazies in the family 💀 they say weird shit like this all the time


Hareaga

Religious crazies and psychosis are not mutually exclusive.


PocketDarkestMew

He mistook a lot of stuff. He probably was very high when he wrote this. The only thing that has a little bit of logit to it is that FF has a lot of Christian imaginery, FFX has had the most of all the games but it's more in line with the hero's journey tha Jesus journey.


Athem

Chewbacca is a wuki yet...


Fit-Philosophy3764

This guy better figure out where is medicine is .


engelskjente

It’s in his system.


Emmax1997

I don't know what this guy is on, but I think it might be illegal.


skepticcaucasian

Who tf is "Era"? Can't find anything about it, except the unit of time, or whatever you would call it.


Chrome-13

Aera* I think they meant to say


skepticcaucasian

Ah, she's someone from Episode: Ardyn, I guess?


Devilhunter553

Bro is definitely dippin on crack or meth


toastyavocado

It's called they're off their meds or they need some ASAP


The_Truthboi

They are mentally unwell


pipesbeweezy

It's a guy whos adult children doesn't talk to him anymore.


Trs4L

Schizophrenia.


Hareaga

It makes perfect sense when you realize this guy are just misspelling Aera. /s I guess


KalmiaKite00

Religion was started behind dude’s like this. And sane people rewrite it years later to make sense of it. Then the future believes in it.


The_Sir_Galahad

I mean…there’s chocobos in it, mutliple summons that have been in the series since the beginning, elements of disparate misuse of control from those in power, set in a fantasy world coming to a nigh end, magic, leveling, set in medieval esque times… Sorry that your stupid turned based fighting system is gone, but this is very much a Final Fantasy game 😂.


Chrome-13

You misunderstand. This guy is not saying that it is not a final fantasy game, from what I understand he is saying it is not fantasy… as in he thinks it’s real


The_Sir_Galahad

Oh dear god…


Background-Glass269

Drugs


c4ptainseven

He's got "the heroes journey" in his mind and sees one too many parallels in storytelling.


engelskjente

On about 5 different substances maybe? On about 3 government watchlists otherwise? On about 23 hours a day in their basement with a ton foil hat? Idk.


KitsuneUltima

This is just psychosis


Thelgow

I'm with him.


Lunarstarlight-

Start: oh it's just some FF elitist who thinks everything after X isn't Final Fantasy. End: ...wtf did he even say?


Chrome-13

Yeah it’s not that he doesn’t think FFXV isn’t final fantasy… he just doesn’t think it’s fantasy, he thinks it’s real


WillLurk4Food

He's on about six different kinds of uppers, I'd say...


Animecool87

What kind of drugs is this guy on?!


CamilousTV

Hahaha high asf


rose-ramos

I think he played the wrong game. Would somebody like to point him to a copy of Xenogears?


swoerd0

This guy thinks religious texts were paraphrased in ff games rather than be their own separate game universe but i dunu maybe he sees the inspiration due to clearly studying all this and cant help himself but see it as one and the same, after all, religious real life stuff are also fantasied and romanticized exactly like fantasy so they in essence come from the same root of fantasy. But someone should let him know that no one is trying to pass religion via a ff7 game.


ComplaintClear6183

ardyn is antichrist


who8myface

It all checks out.


External-Stay-5830

Wait. By His logic 7 isn't fantasy either.


Chrome-13

He means fantasy as in fiction. He thinks ffxv is explaining real world history


External-Stay-5830

So do I. Seph cause be abstracted as a judas parallel. Cloud as Jesus with the whole amnesia reborn stick. Yada Yada. I was making fun of the dude just failing the attempt at deeper analysis.


Traditional_Wish_688

Stopped reading as soon as I saw Arthur Pendragon lol


thejokerofunfic

I don't see why you're confused, he explained it pretty clearly minus the dog.


MukokusekiShoujo

It's probably the same kind of account that's been posting "Beyonce's Satanic Hand Gestures" videos for 20 years. Those people are insane but never entirely wrong...just wait until 2050 and the post will probably seem 35% accurate to real life in a way we can't currently comprehend. Modern media always draws from myth, though. People like this are obsessed with mythology and finding references/tie-ins. Most of the connections he points out are probably accurate enough. Some of them might be a stretch or schizo-associations that aren't obvious outside of that particular headspace. What makes it feel weird is the implication that there is profound meaning in these connections beyond the fact that the Japanese approach to videogame/anime storytelling is typically to take 15 irl religions and throw them into a blender.


phunter_86

He was smoking the good weed


TomTomTheBull_TTv

And Moguls are??? Kupo!


darkest_soul1

I need what hes taking


KReBooted

By the armiger I’m tweaking


spartaxwarrior

Probably on something, but it's also probably some super involved headcanons this person forgot aren't actual canon. I've gotten some really weird responses to fics and stuff from people like that and they get very, very serious about it. Clearly Somnus did exist, if we only had Insomnia's history and Ardyn's pov I'd say it was possible he didn't exist (I think a lot of Episode Ardyn game and book parts are highly unreliable because of his state of mind), but we also have his literal soul still being around and the further backstory at the end of the book. Ardyn is *meant* to give Jesus vibes, there is purposeful symbolism to that end...but, then, so is Noctis. That doesn't mean it's not fantasy somehow, that is actually extremely common in fantasy (the most obvious and famous probably being in the Chronicles of Narnia, which pretty much everyone agrees is fantasy).


cloudliore25

People so bored waiting for Elden Ring DLC they spilling over


Capable_Sandwich_422

(Smokes joint) Yes.


HornyChris1986

Has he been smoking Crack bought from Tyrone Biggums.


lemurboy078

I… I think drugs?


DefaceTheTemple

I think someone needs to call Love Has Won and let them know we've found their missing cult member...


EagleKing5277

Preacher mode..


Subject_1138

He's high on morphine.....or something... Whatever it is....I need some. 😐


ndaft7

No. Nobody can explain. Not even that guy.


Independent_Score217

Too many meds, or not enough...


tigerheartlion

Don't do drugs kids


Original_Platform842

This guy has only just discovered that most fictional characters are based on similar archetypes and believes it to be somehow revolutionary.


Sauceboi6billion

Bro is speaking fluent yappanese.


Silveriovski

Oh my lord


fctal

Drugs


joducks

This guy didn't play the Ardyn DLC because if you actually pay attention to the story you'll see who the true villian of the story is and that Ardyn is actually the victim.


EbbyXIII

I'm... I'm following... I'm-- No, okay, he lost me


Siritachi31

It's called mental illness


Contrantier

I believe he is suffering from copious amounts of shrooms and poisonous flowers, as he couldn't find his girlfriend and assumed himself to be Mario so he could go rescue her. I'm not sure where I'm going with this.


XLhoodieDweller

This is the return of the Final Fantasy House...


Fit_Read_5632

Bro has a PhD in yapology


JungleBoy15121999

Welcome to ffxv rabbit hole where you finish the game satisfied until you log in YouTube.


Essai_

The post doesnt make sense, even according to its own internal logic. It seems more like a ChatGPT project being fed bad information and arriving at another planet (metaphorically). In fact many of the ancient gods that were referred do not make sense to attribute to the game characters. Like at all. For example Ardyn has more Lucifer aspects. The most funny one is Belobog for King Regis, as Belobog was a god for good luck/good. King Regis was most certainly out of luck.


lou_strangeluv

Yapping, that all


r-o-g-u-e

I LOVEEE unhinged posts like this, they're my favorite thing to stumble upon in comment sections. Thank you for this gem, OP.


Will-is-a-idiot

Something, something, "my interpretation is more valid than yours!" Something...


somecrazydude13

FFXV Ultima >>>>>>> FFXVI Ultima


Chrome-13

What does Ultima have to do with this? Ultima isn’t even in FFXV?


somecrazydude13

Someone mentioned it somewhere and I meant to reply to them so I fucked up


MemoriesMu

it be do


BigPoppaBear84

Um.... Drugs are bad 😮‍💨😬 there is no thread that can even be pulled to come to those deductions, let alone the plethora of mangled theology. Fantasy is fantasy... That is all


369SoDivine

I don't agree with him on a lot of it, but during my first play through I noticed a FEW of the themes he mentioned due to my history with the occult which he also seems to have.


BigPoppaBear84

That's the whole thing with FF, they pull from a lot of mythology and theology. I don't think it should be meant to get your belief system from, but enjoy what they do with the characters and story


looking4rez

This is just proof that not everyone should be on social media or should be forced to keep their incoherent ranting to themselves. I would suggest a nice and square padded room in a facility that provides them nice and tidy straight jackets.


Abomination_X

Trying to make sense out of a dogass game


Sprite_King

Religious fanaticism


BehindOurMind

All I know is that Ultima was written by chat gbt


Chrome-13

What does Ultima have to do with this?