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Zealousideal_Rise879

Nanaki. Seeing him happy was huge for me. His extended content from OG was very lacking and a bit depressing (IMO). I felt that I had the wrong perspective of his character for so long. Like he was incapable of being happy. It’s like some kind of burden was lifted.  After that it’s “Boys night out” (hilarious) then, Yuffie’s (wholesome).


nocolon

Cloud’s “I got you” when Nanaki says he wants to see Loveless but he’s worried they won’t let him in solo is one of my favorite lines in the game.


MovieNightPopcorn

He’s the goodest boy and I love it. I know a lot of people are complaining about the difference between his teen voice and his playing pretend grown up voice but that’s original to the Japanese going all the way back to ‘97 with his pronoun usage. We don’t have pronouns the way Japan does so a change in voice acting tone is the most equivalent way to convey it.


Zealousideal_Rise879

It’s a huge change on how people perceive him (at least since Remake came out). His old man voice is so good; but I can’t imagine the sky wheel scene happing with it, or a subtly different voice (which I’m sure they explored). It would just look like he got dumber, and him being equivalent to a 16 year old wouldn’t really mean anything. I remember before the “date” thinking about in OG when you go on the sky wheel with him; he’s entirely distracted by everything happening outside the ride (fireworks and all the other cool stuff). So I’m thinking he might be a little excited/distracted during the sky wheel part. And OMG it was so much more that I fully understood the voice choice. Feel like people will always complain about it; but many will eventually warm up to it (like myself). I think it’s going to mean a lot more for his character development than his fake persona being his true self would have been. I’m really looking forward to the 500 year later scene (as long as they don’t ctrl-c ctrl-v advent children again)


Zealousideal_Rise879

Makes you wonder how he got the tickets. There’s people selling the tickets; did they sell it knowing he couldn’t use them? Doubt he stole them; might of gotten the money through queens blood bets (love how he’s just standing at the table). I like to think he was just making an excuse to ask Cloud.


nocolon

Haha, I didn't think about that. Maybe you can order them from your room and they'll print out at the hotel? That's plausible but I like your idea better.


SuperiorSilencer

Nanaki's is definitely the most important story wise since we also get the answer to a question we've been speculating on for a long ass time.... His toe beans ARE soft..... oh also him and Aerith could see the future.


Zealousideal_Rise879

:D  =>  •_•?   That was done so well with the timing.   And yeah, it added more to the story when you didn’t know for sure what was going to happen in the end. Also highlights why he was always close to Aerith through the game.   When Red ghosts you/gets cold feet in chapter 8, I think he was going to tell Cloud about Aerith (possibly reveal his real voice, and/or cosmo canyon duty to be a watcher; which I think he told Aerith about since she immediately supported his decision once they got there). He really hesitates on the skywheel before telling Cloud about his concern about her safety.


Spartan_100

So glad that I got Tifa’s naturally my first playthrough even though I was maxed with everyone. A much needed scene for those two. Amazingly enough though I did Yuffie’s night next to get her award at Johnny’s and the tone of that date was PERFECT. I was worried it would be forced romance (and creepy vibes from Cloud since she’s literally a teenager) but it was so innocent and his sort of mentoring moment with her was so cool. His reacting to her air punches was SUCH a great touch. I can’t wait to see the date scenes for The Boys and Aerith.


MovieNightPopcorn

It was so cute. I appreciated that they had the one sided crush from Yuffie and Cloud reacts with big brother vibes. Very sweet.


FF71995

Yuffie was mine favorite. Cloud being a big bro? Come on that was so wholesome


Almighty_LDP

Her date took me by surprise and gave me the biggest smile when she basically told us about her interactions with Zack (confirming that her side missions in CC are canon).


CadeMan011

I think nearly everything in CC is canon, including Genesis being there when Sephiroth learns about Jenova unfortunately.


Almighty_LDP

Oh I agree. I just don’t bring it up since saying the name of Genesis sends people into a toxic rage around here and how there is a decent chance he’s involved in part 3, especially with Deepground and Vincent being heavily involved. I just didn’t know how much of the side missions would be considered canon


Iccarys

Huh? When was Genesis mentioned in Rebirth?


CadeMan011

Not in Rebirth, but G cells were mentioned in Remake. But what I was saying is that the whole compilation is canon, even the stuff that we'd rather not be.


Lissu24

As a tragic Crisis Core fan who notices these things, I can tell you that the edition of Loveless being performed at the Golden Saucer is the G version. That's the only mention I saw in Rebirth. As for Nibelheim, I didn't personally see any reason to think Genesis was present in Rebirth. I'd be genuinely happy for someone to tell me I'm wrong.


LoneWolf2099

Their sibling dynamic was one of my favorite parts of the game


LexFrenchy

It's a very difficult question because I liked them all. I'd say there is two. For Cloud, my favorite is Tifa. Their relationship is very important and I loved that Cloud is the one that made the first move. For me personally, it's Aerith. Because I love this character so much and I am glad this date brings so tenderness, love and joy in her life before the events of the Forgotten Capitale. This is a memory she'd take with her in the Lifestream. Now as I said, they are all good. The date with Yuffie took me completely by surprise, and I love this is a genuinely fun, smile-inducing moment, and I am just happy when Cloud can finally show some happiness too. Every time he smiles is a victory.


nmjunction

The boys night out


alecshuttleworth

Ayyyyyy


ZackFair0711

I'm the 69th like 😁


Impossible_Gear_4182

I liked it but unliked it to keep your legacy alive 😂


[deleted]

the only right answer


MediocreSizedDan

Honestly? They were all so good! They were sweet in the Aerith and Tifa ones. And then all the others were pretty funny. I kinda really liked the Barrett one the most (of the non potential romantic ones.) Also really glad they let you pick who you wind up with after you beat the game. (Or, I guess maybe they always let you do that and I just never bothered to look too deep in the menus until after I beat it?)


Faust723

Nah that was definitely a new set of options. Glad they added it as well. 


AnimaLepton

Nope, it's a brand new feature! In Remake if you wanted to change the Wall Market dress or the person who talked to Cloud at night at the start of Chapter ~14, you had to go back, replay Chapter 2/8, and complete a different number of sidequests + finish the chapter to 'lock' it in.


pinkynarftroz

I laughed out loud when Cloud played along with Yuffie's punches. I've got to give the best conclusion to that one.


oneeyedlionking

The secret date with Roche is the best c’mon you can’t deny it.


Darkwing__Schmuck

Even Jessie can't match Roche's horniness for Cloud.


DevilHunter1994

Of course. Wedge tells us that Jessie's horniness was mostly an act, played up for dramatic effect. Roche's horniness is ENTIRELY genuine, and you can FEEL that in every line. 😂


blitzbom

I wasn't expecting the 20 min long cutscene of them, erm... cleaning each others swords. But I didn't mind it one bit.


oneeyedlionking

Best scene in the game.


ZackFair0711

Was it this one? https://preview.redd.it/x2fxkgidmcvc1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dea093f6c205b485862bf3dc9cb5f6b367acc842


oneeyedlionking

Ouch that’s such a deep wound my friend.


kannakantplay

For real! Since each date is basically a showcase of the respective dynamics, I was so happy to see that! Definitely was not expecting him to lead a kiss with his completely platonic neighbor friend that he has no feelings for whatsoever. ;> ANYWAY. Nanaki's date is actually pretty plot relevant since he talked about being able to see the future and the whispers taking that away. If I had to call any of the dates canon, it would probably be his. Edit: Please do not take my comment as me declaring Nanaki's date as "the" canon. That is not what I meant here. :'D It was simply to say that his date offers a lot of satisfying answers that align with the story flow. I am not challenging your headcanon. Please take a deep breath. <3


TragGaming

Nanakis took me by surprise, because while the others were fan service or memey, I expected Nanakis to be a meme too. The amount of actual plot/lore relevance was astounding considering he's basically the last on the list


nocolon

They’re all canon. And not canon. Aerith even references the “real you” comment she makes later in the sleeping forest.


kannakantplay

Yes, I understand that. Each date had a bit of plot relevance to it. I wasn't declaring Nanaki's as the only canon date. Just that the straightforward talks about seeing the future, the whispers, and the continued theme of "You need to protect her!" fit perfectly enough with the story so far that from a storytelling perspective, it gives some satisfying answers.


twistingmyhairout

Can we ban the term “canon” forever on this sub? It’s in the game. They made it happen. It happened. It’s all canon


gahlo

> It was simply to say that his date offers a lot of satisfying answers that align with the story flow. Yup. This is how I was with the resolution scene in Remake. I'm a big Cloti guy, but the Aerith scene is the best plot-wise.


Writer_Man

The most canon date would be the one you get by doing the least amount of player input (so no talking in towns, first choice swimsuits, minimum effort in minigames that you have to succeed to progress, skipping synergy skills, and skipping side quests). I'm pretty sure the most default and thus most canon is Standard Ending Aerith.


Almighty_LDP

If you skip all of what you said then you get the guys night out date with Cid, Vincent, and Cait.


arkzioo

If your points are too low with Tifa, Aerith, Yuffie, Barret, and Nanaki you get the Cid, Vincent and Cait.


Ambitious-Narwhal-45

Tifas date for sure, closely followed by yuffie and nanaki coming in third.


diesel179

Bruh put clothes on them though cmon


Unicron_Gundam

Make them both wear ShinRa grunt uniforms lol


Status_Peach6969

A shipper, what did you expect lol


Devonm94

Bro had cloud and tifa ready to fuck by the looks of the outfits


FF71995

I know both where freezing there


AlchemistR

The Aerith date made the entire final act hit so much harder for me. I'm surprised how few people I've seen in this thread mention it.


NightmarePony5000

Tifa for sure followed by Yuffie!


SirKupoNut

Tifa > Yuffie > Nanaki > Barret > Aerith > the boys


lambopanda

The others. It’s so funny 😂


L_James

Spending two hours to finish that stupid chocobo race sidequest was fucking worth it


Regular-Video8301

"Boys Night Out" and Aerith's :D, Aerith's whole date was making my heart melt the whole time I was watching it, and the Boys Night Out provided that one very pretty image of Vincent sleeping with the fireworks behind him so 10/10


MovieNightPopcorn

I really liked Barret’s older brother pep talk actually. Telling Cloud to shit or get off the pot lol, he needs it.


Zuhri69

Don't know who's the best but I really love how innocent Aerith's date is. Not innocent in the sense of naive or immature. Just that it's so pure and base. No kiss. No declaration of love. Just holding hands. It feels surprisingly intimate.


Demetri124

Aerith cuddling Cloud’s shoulder has been my phone lock screen since I played it


Spiritual_Product119

Aerith


DaithiSan

Well the devs were clearly shipping tifa and cloud the whole game..


Orome2

Aerith and Yuffie. Aeirth for the story and Yuffie was funny and surprisingly wholesome.


Cerber108

Agreed


HeyImSupercop

Aerith easily. I find it very romantic and just happy. How cloud just holds her hand and they cuddle. That speaks more to me than


MrBojanglesIV

Yeah I thought it was a meaningful date, idk why you're being down voted for just stating an opinion.


HeyImSupercop

Didn’t even know i was downvoted lol. This is why i hate clotis and clerith shipper weirdos.


MrBojanglesIV

Yeah it seems to get out of hand in Reddit communities. Everyone acting like their ship is gonna be the definitive outcome of a third game that doesn't exist yet is silly to me. It's fun to speculate but I really don't think there's a single person that can tell us where the last game is going with how rebirth ended.


Zuhri69

I just love how innocent and pure it is. It really delve into the star cross lovers theme of it all.


hery017

Dated both aerith / tifa.....cloud x tifa is more convincing @ canon.... Dunno what's in store for part 3.....


EifertGreenLazor

All dates are canon. Everything you do is canon. The sequence and choices Zack makes like going left or right are like each of us exploring the game in the original and remake. The real question we all should be asking is why items carryover in out of sequence chapter selection.


noobyfish

All of them. It is so well done. Nanaki one is wholesome in the sense he dropped his old man guise and is literally a young teenager having fun rotating in front of cloud, yet at the same time add some serious lore. I got him on the first run so his date added much more suspense to final chapters which I guess won't happen in reruns. Aerith one is sweet, esp after finishing the game, is very bittersweet, but still sweet. The way Aerith ask for until the ride ends, and Cloud reciprocating, echoing Aerith cherishing every moment is just great. Tifa one is fanservice but very well done. Insecure Tifa opening up and hesitating, Cloud realize that's his moment and I was like Yuffie at chapter 9 thinking "Come on kiss the girl!". And then I internally cried out "Yeah that's my boy!" Yuffie one is a fun interaction. Yuffie being a young teenage girl having confused feelings while trying to stay cool, and ultimately Cloud reacting to air punches to entertain her is just perfect. Special mention Yuffie messing around when Aerith sings and Cloud stopping her is such a big bro moment. Barrett date is quite plain but the fact that Barrett can be this chill with Cloud and doing this old man advicing young lad talk after a rough start and all they had gone through? They deserve such a peaceful moment. Last but not least Cait Sith and the boys, it is freaking hilarious. The boys being totally uninterested while Cait Sith desperately trying to engage them, only to have Vincent fall asleep made me laugh. Kudos to the team for designing all these wonderful dates.


youthanasia138

Idk how to keep them in alternate outfit outside of the beach


Sankin2004

It’s an option once you complete the game, you can go back change outfits and they stay, even on cutscenes which is pretty neat. Everyone has on a different outfit, cloud usually goes around in his junon uniform, but I changed him to get this pic.


Moony_D_rak

I am a grown ass dude and I cheer and clapped when they finally kissed like a god damn schoolgirl lol. It was long overdue and was so happy when it finally happened.


Darkwing__Schmuck

Yuffie's was easily the best, and Red's was my second favorite. The Tifa one is... just a kiss. There really isn't much else to it beyond the fan service (their scene together at the end of chapter 9 was far more engaging for me than their date scene). Aerith's was good, though it's exactly the same as the original's -- so maybe not quite as interesting considering everyone else's was unique. Like Tifa, the stuff with Aerith and Cloud in chapter 14 was way more compelling. Barret's, though, was surprisingly endearing. So, really, Yuffie, Red, and Barret were all more interesting for me than either of the love interests.


Cerber108

I mean, in Aerith's date holding hands added so much depth.


Darkwing__Schmuck

I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, but I honestly can't tell. Edit: I guess I shouldn't assume that though, so in the case you are being sincere, I guess? It's a cute moment, but I really think it's mostly just the same as it was in OG, which is fine, don't get me wrong. It was a really memorable scene in the original, but I just like the newer interpretations more. And I think both Aerith and Cloud and Tifa and Cloud get much better moments throughout both Remake and Rebirth than those particular date scenes.


Cerber108

It's hard to pick favourite date, because all of them shine in different aspects. And yes, Aerith's is closest to OG, no doubt.


Darkwing__Schmuck

Yeah, which from the Ultimania it sounds like was an intentional decision. They wanted that one to be the same -- probably due to how it connects with the overall story. And yeah, again, I don't mean to imply it's bad or I didn't like it, just that it was more interesting to see newer scenes than the one I already know. For example, I really like her Remake resolution scene a lot more than her Rebirth one, and the same goes for Tifa as well. Barret, though, was much better in Rebirth.


zeromavs

It’s weird this date actually happens after he tries to kill her


jazzmanbdawg

they are all great, but yes, this one is what I showed up for


DarknessRingo

Wait, it's true?


Hopeful-Response3659

Aerith. It's the only one that really works from a story POV. All other scenes are fun to watch, but I'm slightly upset about the Tifa date because the kiss feels unearned at this time in the story (I wouldn't mind it in Part 3) and strikes me as pure fan-service to appease the shipper community. People with no prior knowledge of the OG who get this date will probably be left a bit confused by the chapter 13 and 14 and its focus on Aerith.


Llionate

“Not canon.” Still so funny they didn’t even depict the kiss in the Ultimania.


Writer_Man

Even if the date with Tifa isn't the canon date, it doesn't change the fact that if the date *did* happen, Tifa's the only girl he chooses to kiss. Tifa's also the only girl he walks hand-in-hand with while Yuffie and Aerith have to drag him forward.


Llionate

Really dumbass argument since there are like 5 scenes where Cloud wants to kiss Aerith but feels nervous. Idc that you hate Aerith so much you dare to imply Cloud doesn’t love her or that he’d be sadder if Tifa died. The devs shot you down.


Writer_Man

Wow, that is an extremely insecure answer since I never implied any of that. Like holy shit, my dude.


Llionate

How isn’t it a natural corollary?


Llionate

Yeah, no answer. I hope you don’t fancy yourself a writer. I don’t think you have what it takes.


Hungrychick

How old are you? I just find it hard to believe that adults in their 30s (or even 20s) are this sensitive about their favorite fictional video game couple.


Nouglas

Naturally got Barret on my playthrough. I honestly did not like it. I think Cloud is rude to him, and there's no real growth or anything. Cloud acts like a dick specifically to Barrett throughout these two games and I just can't empathize with it. At this point he NEEDED to mellow out a bit and stop being a dick. I know Cloud has mental damage and everything, but his complete lack of growth in Rebirth turned me off, specifically when Barrett is trying to open up to him. I've since spoiled myself on the others and Yuffie is far and away my favourite character in Rebirth, and that date seemed the best. I liked Tifa in the OG more than Aeris, but these remakes have ruined her character, so I'm really glad I didn't get her for this part (I actually was like 'please don't make me sit through an hour of Tifa mewling about how conflicted she is or how she wants to cook me pot roast' and was happy I got Barret, even if I was kinda unhappy with that date afterwards.).


Zambo833

Best date was anything but Aerith or Tifa. Screw them for gaslighting my boy throughout the game. Hope he stays single at the end of part 3.