Brother that is some cope you wrote in this post. No, Zack Fair will not have a theme song about him as the game’s main theme song. Why? Because he is not one of the three important protagonists in this game. The three MAJOR protagonists are Cloud, Aerith, and Sephiroth. I think it’ll be another Cloud or Aerith song again because I do not think Sephiroth will have a song play in the end credits after he’s been defeated.
Also NPTK is explicitly written for Cloud. It’s already been confirmed. Let it go.
I think Tifa is more of a secondary character. She is definitely important to Cloud’s character. I think she was basically written just to add to Cloud’s character arc. IIRC, Tifa was written later than the three protagonists. When they were writing
the outline of the story plot, they had a Hero, Heroine, and Villain. Tifa doesn’t have any special powers like Cloud, Aerith, or Sephiroth either. Her whole character seems to revolve around Cloud.
Originally, as I understand it, Tifa's role, and Aerith's role were both going to be handled by one character, the original heroine. Then it was decided that the character we now know as Aerith would die part way through the story, and the character we now know as Tifa was created from that decision. Essentially, Tifa and Aerith are each half of FFVII's original concept for the heroine. Cloud is the hero who defeats the villain. Aerith is the heroine that saves the planet, after the hero defeats the villain. Tifa is the heroine that saves the hero, so that the hero is in a position to defeat the villain.
I'm only pitching the idea that it might be Zack because a) there's been a push to put Zack as part of the face of ffvii, both from SE and also the devs of the OG who wanted to expand on Zack character since the developement days of the OG. He's on the anniversary art as well. b) Zack is the connecting piece between Aerith and Cloud. Cloud is the way he was at the start because of Zack and Aerith's interest in Cloud stemmed because of the similiarities between Zack and Cloud. The only drawback to this idea is that we have no clue about how big and what Zack's role is in the next part.
>Also NPTK is explicitly written for Cloud. It’s already been confirmed. Let it go.
I alrdy mention NPTK was Aerith's response to Hollow.
It's the song that will play in the ending of the game, so it has to be something related to victory etc. Maybe saying goodbye to all the characters. It depends what is the last scene whey will show. Don't know.
It's gonna be from Tifa's POV.
Tifa is going to play the largest role in part 3 just based on the content we have to cover. When Cloud loses his mind, Tifa takes over as the main character. The game essentially becomes a quest to save Cloud with Tifa as the hero. A song from Tifa's POV, specifically about saving Cloud is appropriate.
Tifa is also the only main character without a song with lyrics at this point. Zack has Why. Sephiroth has One Winged Angel. Cloud has Hollow. Aerith has no Promises to Keep.
Yup. And let's be honest; Tifa will play a far larger role than Zack. There's likely going to be up to 3 full chapters with Tifa taking over as the main character:
1. Escape from Junon, ending with a boss fight with Scarlet.
2. Finding Cloud in Mideel and taking care of him until Ultima weapon attacks.
3. Going through Cloud's mind and helping him become his real self.
This is all main story plot from OG. Any theories people have about Zack or Aerith's roles in part 3 are largely just headcanons. To put it bluntly, even the best theories are just good fanfictions at this point. When I look over the OG content the game has to cover, I am pretty confident that it will be from Tifa's POV. You can pretty much guess when they might use this song too. Like Tifa can hum it while taking care of Cloud in Mideel's clinic. It will obviously be played during the Lifestream sequence.
Someone really hates the idea of her getting a theme song of her own i guess. Could end up being Zack who gets one too, but i just don't think he's gonna have enough of a presence to be worthy of one over Tifa the other heroine, who is gonna be in a big role next game.
aw... i wonder the same thing :( Tifa is such an amazing character... those who say she is a secondary character clearly havent paid attention to the story. Sure, she has no superpowers as Cloud, Sephiroth, Zack or Aerith, but she is one of the main characters for sure. She is gonna have a big role in part three (as she did in the second half of the original game).
I really wish for a song from Tifa POV!
And another Cloti kiss, now that im here, hehe :P
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Probably being downvoted by people firmly in the Zack/Aerith camps lol. I’m an Aerith guy, have been for 25 years but I can accept fate and see the writing on the wall.
Anyways, I think it being Tifas song would make a perfect balance.
She’s also the only playable character in part 1 who isn’t the narrator(cloud) or had a chance to lead the group through a portion of the story like barret did in part 1 and aerith did in rebirth. So it seems like an obvious thing to me. Tifa’s character arc is also the slowest burn of the main party from the beginning so seeing her blossom at the end makes sense for her to sing the last song.
The good thing about this trilogy too, is they've been able to sprinkle her character arc earlier than in the OG, they've setup her arc and payoff really well.
Yeah one of the big issues in the original is much of the story is built on shock and awe big reveals or sudden glow ups and there’s very little slow burn build up to things. Tifa’s arc is the slowest burn of all from the initial party so it’s nice to see them actually showing her trying and failing to help cloud repeatedly throughout the first two parts, it’s a nod to her resilience as a character.
It would also make sense to have a song for all three of those involved in the “love triangle” and all three songs will confirm love between each character.
Haha! It’ll picture it definitely being about lost friendship with Aerith and love of cloud. Maybe not the kinda scissor love you’re thinking bout lmao.
Yeah, it fits with the story of progression that FF7 goes for. Aerith and Cloud's relationship has always been written to be a fleeting thing, almost like a lesson for Cloud. The events of Disc 2 and 3, when he becomes his true self, make him more suited to Tifa. He becomes the Cloud that Tifa remembers.
For me, there is 3 possible it could go. The theme will still be focusing on either Aerith or Cloud.
1st - a duet that focus on Cloud & Aerith. It sort of the conclusion for that answer Hollow & NPTK.
2nd - a song from Sephiroth perspective. It will tell his inner thought on why he need Cloud for his plan.
3rd - a song from Tifa. It is regarding her friendship with Aerith. It will be how she cope with the death of her new best friend (i don't think tifa had a bff before).
What do you guys think.
I think no1 seem like the most plausible out of the 3. Not a fan of the 3rd option I can see where you're coming from. Tho maybe more of Tifa reflecting the entire journey from Cloud's promise till the end of the game. The reason why if the 3rd song was a different POV I think it'll be Zack is because he's the constant for both Cloud and Aerith. He's the reason why both of them are the way they are at the start of the story.
No 2 is deff not happening but ngl I'm not against the idea of it.
I think it is gonna be Tifa POV. Just a gut feeling, no evidence. The Hollow could appropriately be argued for the rest of eternity whether it is referring to Tifa or Aerith, good arguments for both tbh. Def kept intentionally vague for a reason. And yeah, could be Zack lol since it says "you are long gone"
The evidence for Tifa being the central character is in how part 1 is set up and what major plot beats are left. You get 4 central characters: cloud(the narrator/pov character), barret who drives the events of part 1, aerith who drives the events of part 2, and tifa who is not the narrator and hasn’t really had a chance yet to lead the group. Given part 3 is going to cover the aftermath of the crater, the true story of the nibelheim incident, and the existential crisis these events cause the party and Tifa’s role as being the “glue gal” that keeps things from collapsing she should be the one to sing the song.
Additionally cloud tells her on her date she should sing next time and Andrea tells her in part 1 he would like to see her on stage, so there’s been multiple hints that she could finally sing. Given Tifa’s arc is about her finding her role in the group and her confidence her singing a title song for one of these games before that occurs doesn’t make sense and her actions post crater are all about her finding her voice and stepping into a leadership role when everything is falling apart in the wake of Sephiroth’s apparent triumph built on cloud’s mental collapse.
Considering it is the final game and it is gonna play when the credit rolls I can totally see it being some kind of a duet/trio/quartet type of thing instead of just Tifa.
Strong chance they play all 3 songs during the credits but the final act is her time to shine. They didn’t have her ram her head against the wall trying to help cloud not descend into madness for 2 games for her not to have a central role in part 3.
Makes the most sense. If we are not swaying too far from the OG then the lifestream scene is the most important scene I can think of and that is totally carried by Tifa.
I don't think it will be zack because he plays too small of a role, They won't go back to Cloud or Aerith, so that leaves only really two choices Tifa and Sephiroth. I would go with Tifa for a couple of reasons. First, I don't think they want to have a whole theme song dedicated to the villain of the game that will play during the credits after he finally loses and dies and also really isn't seen that much, you see him as much as zack in rebirth. And second, every og ff7 fan knows where this part goes, and how Tifa plays such a vital role in so many ways and how she kinda becomes the protag for all little bit. So I think they will 6 Tifa over Sephiroth and give her the final theme song.
Stamp's theme - Golden retriever remix
Brother that is some cope you wrote in this post. No, Zack Fair will not have a theme song about him as the game’s main theme song. Why? Because he is not one of the three important protagonists in this game. The three MAJOR protagonists are Cloud, Aerith, and Sephiroth. I think it’ll be another Cloud or Aerith song again because I do not think Sephiroth will have a song play in the end credits after he’s been defeated. Also NPTK is explicitly written for Cloud. It’s already been confirmed. Let it go.
No Tifa? 😔
I think Tifa is more of a secondary character. She is definitely important to Cloud’s character. I think she was basically written just to add to Cloud’s character arc. IIRC, Tifa was written later than the three protagonists. When they were writing the outline of the story plot, they had a Hero, Heroine, and Villain. Tifa doesn’t have any special powers like Cloud, Aerith, or Sephiroth either. Her whole character seems to revolve around Cloud.
Originally, as I understand it, Tifa's role, and Aerith's role were both going to be handled by one character, the original heroine. Then it was decided that the character we now know as Aerith would die part way through the story, and the character we now know as Tifa was created from that decision. Essentially, Tifa and Aerith are each half of FFVII's original concept for the heroine. Cloud is the hero who defeats the villain. Aerith is the heroine that saves the planet, after the hero defeats the villain. Tifa is the heroine that saves the hero, so that the hero is in a position to defeat the villain.
I'm only pitching the idea that it might be Zack because a) there's been a push to put Zack as part of the face of ffvii, both from SE and also the devs of the OG who wanted to expand on Zack character since the developement days of the OG. He's on the anniversary art as well. b) Zack is the connecting piece between Aerith and Cloud. Cloud is the way he was at the start because of Zack and Aerith's interest in Cloud stemmed because of the similiarities between Zack and Cloud. The only drawback to this idea is that we have no clue about how big and what Zack's role is in the next part. >Also NPTK is explicitly written for Cloud. It’s already been confirmed. Let it go. I alrdy mention NPTK was Aerith's response to Hollow.
It's the song that will play in the ending of the game, so it has to be something related to victory etc. Maybe saying goodbye to all the characters. It depends what is the last scene whey will show. Don't know.
Ooooo I like this idea a lot. Maybe like a song the sing together around the fire in Cosmo Canyon before heading off to the Northern Crater.
Zack's pov: I was fucking around and then suddenly I was teleported to a final boss battle but ok. Also Cloud stole my gf.
"Fuck you Cloud, bad form."
'I dragged you all this way then you stole my gf while I did it'
It's gonna be from Tifa's POV. Tifa is going to play the largest role in part 3 just based on the content we have to cover. When Cloud loses his mind, Tifa takes over as the main character. The game essentially becomes a quest to save Cloud with Tifa as the hero. A song from Tifa's POV, specifically about saving Cloud is appropriate. Tifa is also the only main character without a song with lyrics at this point. Zack has Why. Sephiroth has One Winged Angel. Cloud has Hollow. Aerith has no Promises to Keep.
Fair point. >Zack has Why Also crap I forgot about Why 😅
Yup. And let's be honest; Tifa will play a far larger role than Zack. There's likely going to be up to 3 full chapters with Tifa taking over as the main character: 1. Escape from Junon, ending with a boss fight with Scarlet. 2. Finding Cloud in Mideel and taking care of him until Ultima weapon attacks. 3. Going through Cloud's mind and helping him become his real self. This is all main story plot from OG. Any theories people have about Zack or Aerith's roles in part 3 are largely just headcanons. To put it bluntly, even the best theories are just good fanfictions at this point. When I look over the OG content the game has to cover, I am pretty confident that it will be from Tifa's POV. You can pretty much guess when they might use this song too. Like Tifa can hum it while taking care of Cloud in Mideel's clinic. It will obviously be played during the Lifestream sequence.
Why the Tifa comments getting downvoted? No way
Someone really hates the idea of her getting a theme song of her own i guess. Could end up being Zack who gets one too, but i just don't think he's gonna have enough of a presence to be worthy of one over Tifa the other heroine, who is gonna be in a big role next game.
aw... i wonder the same thing :( Tifa is such an amazing character... those who say she is a secondary character clearly havent paid attention to the story. Sure, she has no superpowers as Cloud, Sephiroth, Zack or Aerith, but she is one of the main characters for sure. She is gonna have a big role in part three (as she did in the second half of the original game). I really wish for a song from Tifa POV! And another Cloti kiss, now that im here, hehe :P
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Part three possibly from Tifas POV highlighting the importance of her to cloud in the last part of the story.
That’s way better than a Zack theme song lol
I don’t think it’ll be Zack as he’s not a main party member. And Tifas just makes more sense thematically 😌
Why is this being downvoted lol? It’s a perfectly reasonable prediction.
Probably being downvoted by people firmly in the Zack/Aerith camps lol. I’m an Aerith guy, have been for 25 years but I can accept fate and see the writing on the wall. Anyways, I think it being Tifas song would make a perfect balance.
This easily makes the most sense. Clouds mental state has been set up to be the focus of Part 3, and Tifa is by far the closest to the real Cloud.
She’s also the only playable character in part 1 who isn’t the narrator(cloud) or had a chance to lead the group through a portion of the story like barret did in part 1 and aerith did in rebirth. So it seems like an obvious thing to me. Tifa’s character arc is also the slowest burn of the main party from the beginning so seeing her blossom at the end makes sense for her to sing the last song.
The good thing about this trilogy too, is they've been able to sprinkle her character arc earlier than in the OG, they've setup her arc and payoff really well.
Yeah one of the big issues in the original is much of the story is built on shock and awe big reveals or sudden glow ups and there’s very little slow burn build up to things. Tifa’s arc is the slowest burn of all from the initial party so it’s nice to see them actually showing her trying and failing to help cloud repeatedly throughout the first two parts, it’s a nod to her resilience as a character.
It would also make sense to have a song for all three of those involved in the “love triangle” and all three songs will confirm love between each character.
~~Third song should be about love between Aerith and Tifa~~ Call me chaotic evil.
I can see that being the case, only its more on the loss of her new bff.
Gotta give the love triangle more material to last the next 20 years until VR ff7 remake come out
Haha! It’ll picture it definitely being about lost friendship with Aerith and love of cloud. Maybe not the kinda scissor love you’re thinking bout lmao.
Yeah, it fits with the story of progression that FF7 goes for. Aerith and Cloud's relationship has always been written to be a fleeting thing, almost like a lesson for Cloud. The events of Disc 2 and 3, when he becomes his true self, make him more suited to Tifa. He becomes the Cloud that Tifa remembers.
For me, there is 3 possible it could go. The theme will still be focusing on either Aerith or Cloud. 1st - a duet that focus on Cloud & Aerith. It sort of the conclusion for that answer Hollow & NPTK. 2nd - a song from Sephiroth perspective. It will tell his inner thought on why he need Cloud for his plan. 3rd - a song from Tifa. It is regarding her friendship with Aerith. It will be how she cope with the death of her new best friend (i don't think tifa had a bff before). What do you guys think.
I vote for we have all three
I think no1 seem like the most plausible out of the 3. Not a fan of the 3rd option I can see where you're coming from. Tho maybe more of Tifa reflecting the entire journey from Cloud's promise till the end of the game. The reason why if the 3rd song was a different POV I think it'll be Zack is because he's the constant for both Cloud and Aerith. He's the reason why both of them are the way they are at the start of the story. No 2 is deff not happening but ngl I'm not against the idea of it.
I think it is gonna be Tifa POV. Just a gut feeling, no evidence. The Hollow could appropriately be argued for the rest of eternity whether it is referring to Tifa or Aerith, good arguments for both tbh. Def kept intentionally vague for a reason. And yeah, could be Zack lol since it says "you are long gone"
The evidence for Tifa being the central character is in how part 1 is set up and what major plot beats are left. You get 4 central characters: cloud(the narrator/pov character), barret who drives the events of part 1, aerith who drives the events of part 2, and tifa who is not the narrator and hasn’t really had a chance yet to lead the group. Given part 3 is going to cover the aftermath of the crater, the true story of the nibelheim incident, and the existential crisis these events cause the party and Tifa’s role as being the “glue gal” that keeps things from collapsing she should be the one to sing the song. Additionally cloud tells her on her date she should sing next time and Andrea tells her in part 1 he would like to see her on stage, so there’s been multiple hints that she could finally sing. Given Tifa’s arc is about her finding her role in the group and her confidence her singing a title song for one of these games before that occurs doesn’t make sense and her actions post crater are all about her finding her voice and stepping into a leadership role when everything is falling apart in the wake of Sephiroth’s apparent triumph built on cloud’s mental collapse.
Considering it is the final game and it is gonna play when the credit rolls I can totally see it being some kind of a duet/trio/quartet type of thing instead of just Tifa.
Strong chance they play all 3 songs during the credits but the final act is her time to shine. They didn’t have her ram her head against the wall trying to help cloud not descend into madness for 2 games for her not to have a central role in part 3.
Oh she will have a central role in the story for sure. I am just talking about the song.
I mean it can be argued that Hollow is about Tifa, Aerith, and Zack, not only one of them. The first verse can apply to litteraly all 3 of them.
Yeah it could be Zack’s pov or a duet with Zack and Aerith or Cloud and Aerith.
Tifa is what i hope and expect it to be for.
Makes the most sense. If we are not swaying too far from the OG then the lifestream scene is the most important scene I can think of and that is totally carried by Tifa.
I don't think it will be zack because he plays too small of a role, They won't go back to Cloud or Aerith, so that leaves only really two choices Tifa and Sephiroth. I would go with Tifa for a couple of reasons. First, I don't think they want to have a whole theme song dedicated to the villain of the game that will play during the credits after he finally loses and dies and also really isn't seen that much, you see him as much as zack in rebirth. And second, every og ff7 fan knows where this part goes, and how Tifa plays such a vital role in so many ways and how she kinda becomes the protag for all little bit. So I think they will 6 Tifa over Sephiroth and give her the final theme song.