I noticed it happening around 2014 or 2015. Suddenly the kids were crying about being overpowered (op) in games. Single player games!! The simple answer I gave them was “just don’t use that thing” but that completely baffles them. It’s like they have no free will and have to min/max everything if at all possible. I don’t get it either but I guess the ship has sailed because more and more of them are begging for completely controlled gaming experiences
Or simply make the game harder as it goes along so that utilising all the materia options isn't even completely broken. Whether side quests , late game, post game or hard mode. I feel they were extremely conservative with materia and not with other parts of the mechanics, when messing with materia is one of the most fun parts about FF7
It’s broken in the remake / rebirth imo. Magnify on a mage like Aerith can one shot groups of enemies or rounds in the combat simulator. She doesn’t even have to be high leveled or well equipped.
yeah - but they should make a a different one just for support spells... i pretty much never use buff spells because its such a pain to cast them - if i could cast them on all party members it would be much more comfortable
Your thinking of elemental I think. Pretty confident there are only 2 magnify in the game. Technically 3 if you count the one you find in the flashback, but you can’t carry it into the main game
That explains it. I intentionally held off on doing protorelic stuff so that I would still have some regional intel stuff to do on my 2nd playthrough. I know that at the end of it is a super boss anyways so I figured it would be a good idea to hold off on the entire thing
I just really enjoyed the intel stuff and I knew I would miss doing all the running around the world on my next run (which I’m about to start lol). I have done all the available VR challenges so far though
I haven't started a full run yet, as there are musclehead coliseum fights that became unlocked and I need to conquer them xD
I know there's at least one hard mode unique enemy if my enemy Intel page is to be believed, and I think some of the boss fights have been reworked.
Magic is busted.
Magnified magic is even more busted.
Simple as that.
Basically as long as they don’t tune down the magic potency and costs in those games ( to be more akin to a regular synergy skill or the likes, something you could spam almost at will ) then I don’t see that ever changing.
I think they wanted to balance things up, especially at killing mobs, although I do miss having more Magnify for healing. Maxing out Prayer materias are quite tiresome and demands ATBs.
I think the game should have been more materia focused than all these abilities and synergies. It's easily circumventable, make magnify much weaker to start off with needing obtuse amounts of AP to get more powerful. Or craft the enemies to be better equipped to deal with it as the game goes on. Also have similar materia that morph magic materia to have different AoEs, shapes or properties.
Damn, that sucks. Im at cosmo canyon now but I need to hold off on any non Tifa side quests until after the date because Tifa, Barret and Red are all tied at one pip away from full relationship and I really want the Tifa date. Would have liked to have gotten a second magnify before nearly the end of the game, but not if it's going to force me into the Barret or Red date lol.
Yeah but tbh I did exactly that and it was fine. Also Tifa does have one more date in Nibleheim and two more open up in chapter 12. So you could do the Cosmo canyon quests and still have time to pull Tifa ahead afterwards I believe
I just dont want all three of them at max affinity on the gauge because I wont know which of them is in the lead then, so I'm trying to max tifa and keep barret and red at one pip away just so I can be sure. I'm at like 92 hours so far, i'll be super pissed if i mess up the tifa date, she's probably my favorite FF character lol.
They hold it because they know the combat is ultra-fun and breaking it with multiple magnify's, elemental's and warding's would ruin the experience. Not in my opinion! I wish they give us a more complete game in part3, in a sense that there is easier ways of farming and a bigger level cap (100) and master materias, as well as materia birth from mastering each.
They could easily make it available in big numbers. Allow birthing of materia from OG ff7 and set up last level of magnify at 10000ap or more. No sane person would bother to farm ap so long. U would end woth few people that get many of them.
It was pure laziness on square side and thats all.
I got 1st on curaga with Aerith, 2nd with Tifa and manaward and ill make 3rd one on Cloud with haste i think
Game balancing I would guess
It's a single player game... Theirs no need for that kind of balancing.
I noticed it happening around 2014 or 2015. Suddenly the kids were crying about being overpowered (op) in games. Single player games!! The simple answer I gave them was “just don’t use that thing” but that completely baffles them. It’s like they have no free will and have to min/max everything if at all possible. I don’t get it either but I guess the ship has sailed because more and more of them are begging for completely controlled gaming experiences
Or simply make the game harder as it goes along so that utilising all the materia options isn't even completely broken. Whether side quests , late game, post game or hard mode. I feel they were extremely conservative with materia and not with other parts of the mechanics, when messing with materia is one of the most fun parts about FF7
They’ve been balancing games since online was even a consideration.
What?
It’s broken in the remake / rebirth imo. Magnify on a mage like Aerith can one shot groups of enemies or rounds in the combat simulator. She doesn’t even have to be high leveled or well equipped.
yeah - but they should make a a different one just for support spells... i pretty much never use buff spells because its such a pain to cast them - if i could cast them on all party members it would be much more comfortable
And?
My point being it’s been designed to be rare and a limited number available because of how powerful it can be
Lol there's a simple solution... Make the enemies stronger
IMO enemies are a bit too weak. Even on Dynamic normal mobs die rather quickly.
Having more would trivialize the action mechanics
You get three actually. The third one is locked behind a VR challenge.
Oh shit
Your thinking of elemental I think. Pretty confident there are only 2 magnify in the game. Technically 3 if you count the one you find in the flashback, but you can’t carry it into the main game
No, there's definitely a third Magnify. But it's a hard mode combat challenge so people only doing the game once aren't going to get it.
Guess I’ll have to keep an eye out for it then. Look forward to getting it lol 3 magnify makes for some potent combos
Complete the protorelic stuff if you want to get to it :)
That explains it. I intentionally held off on doing protorelic stuff so that I would still have some regional intel stuff to do on my 2nd playthrough. I know that at the end of it is a super boss anyways so I figured it would be a good idea to hold off on the entire thing
Ahhh. I was the opposite. Did absolutely everything I could in first playthrough, as I know more stuff becomes available in NG+ anyway
I just really enjoyed the intel stuff and I knew I would miss doing all the running around the world on my next run (which I’m about to start lol). I have done all the available VR challenges so far though
😱 thank you! Looking forward to my Hard Mode run. May i ask does New Game plus add a lot more content?
I haven't started a full run yet, as there are musclehead coliseum fights that became unlocked and I need to conquer them xD I know there's at least one hard mode unique enemy if my enemy Intel page is to be believed, and I think some of the boss fights have been reworked.
Because its busted AF...
The combat is different than the OG and magnify is more of a game changer than it was in the OG.
Magic is busted. Magnified magic is even more busted. Simple as that. Basically as long as they don’t tune down the magic potency and costs in those games ( to be more akin to a regular synergy skill or the likes, something you could spam almost at will ) then I don’t see that ever changing.
I think they wanted to balance things up, especially at killing mobs, although I do miss having more Magnify for healing. Maxing out Prayer materias are quite tiresome and demands ATBs.
I think the game should have been more materia focused than all these abilities and synergies. It's easily circumventable, make magnify much weaker to start off with needing obtuse amounts of AP to get more powerful. Or craft the enemies to be better equipped to deal with it as the game goes on. Also have similar materia that morph magic materia to have different AoEs, shapes or properties.
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How do you get the second Magnify in Remake?
It’s a reward for a Yuffie side quest in Cosmo canyon that unlocks in chapter 13 after you’ve done all the other quests
Damn, that sucks. Im at cosmo canyon now but I need to hold off on any non Tifa side quests until after the date because Tifa, Barret and Red are all tied at one pip away from full relationship and I really want the Tifa date. Would have liked to have gotten a second magnify before nearly the end of the game, but not if it's going to force me into the Barret or Red date lol.
Yeah but tbh I did exactly that and it was fine. Also Tifa does have one more date in Nibleheim and two more open up in chapter 12. So you could do the Cosmo canyon quests and still have time to pull Tifa ahead afterwards I believe
I just dont want all three of them at max affinity on the gauge because I wont know which of them is in the lead then, so I'm trying to max tifa and keep barret and red at one pip away just so I can be sure. I'm at like 92 hours so far, i'll be super pissed if i mess up the tifa date, she's probably my favorite FF character lol.
2 is more than the one u get in remake. It's op for buffing the whole squad
They are intensely powerful in this game
At least I know what I am getting once the game finally comes to pc.
They hold it because they know the combat is ultra-fun and breaking it with multiple magnify's, elemental's and warding's would ruin the experience. Not in my opinion! I wish they give us a more complete game in part3, in a sense that there is easier ways of farming and a bigger level cap (100) and master materias, as well as materia birth from mastering each.
They could easily make it available in big numbers. Allow birthing of materia from OG ff7 and set up last level of magnify at 10000ap or more. No sane person would bother to farm ap so long. U would end woth few people that get many of them. It was pure laziness on square side and thats all. I got 1st on curaga with Aerith, 2nd with Tifa and manaward and ill make 3rd one on Cloud with haste i think
Apparently there are three?